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Post Post #24 (isolation #0) » Thu Jan 25, 2007 2:21 am

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unvote: Pooky


Just to break with the random voting tradition, a random UNvote.
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Post Post #31 (isolation #1) » Thu Jan 25, 2007 1:03 pm

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For blatantly manipulative behavior and gratuitious invocation of the LAL rule at the random voting stage:

vote: Adele
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Post Post #41 (isolation #2) » Sat Jan 27, 2007 7:42 am

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POTS is good for me.
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Post Post #45 (isolation #3) » Sun Jan 28, 2007 11:41 am

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Adele wrote: YOU SUCK!!!
It's true, I do. I am going to comb the house until I find your spycam. Vote stays.
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Post Post #51 (isolation #4) » Mon Jan 29, 2007 3:01 am

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Pooky??? Are you smoking crack? Check your role PM, then unvote me.
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Post Post #61 (isolation #5) » Tue Jan 30, 2007 9:23 am

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PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:just because we sleep together and make sweet sweet love every night doesn't mean you're innocent.

O.o o.O
That's true, love, but rest assured, you are the only Magical Bear I've ever known. Should I die in this game, I shall carry the sweet memory of you into my grave. You will be the last thought I'll ever have.

I place my hand on my heart, and pledge to live the rest of this game loving you, until my self vanishes, and I am nothing but a thick ooze of love for you.
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Post Post #64 (isolation #6) » Wed Jan 31, 2007 2:04 am

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Pooky's vote for me is merely a show of affection, a term of endearment.

Those that think romance is for fools cannot see that. But true lovers will.
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Post Post #99 (isolation #7) » Sun Feb 04, 2007 2:48 am

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This game is completely stalled. I have an idea.

Let's vote for Adele. See what happens after we pile up a few votes.
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Post Post #105 (isolation #8) » Sun Feb 04, 2007 11:19 am

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Note to self: if you love life, never refer to ShadowLurker as a "fluffer."
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Post Post #107 (isolation #9) » Sun Feb 04, 2007 12:52 pm

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chamber wrote:
Unvote vote shadowlurker
Why? Since when do we have scum dayvigs???
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Post Post #110 (isolation #10) » Mon Feb 05, 2007 1:48 am

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Adele wrote:Pooky, I'm sorry we never got that night together. You always seemed to have an interest in me, then you get a chance and plump for someone else? :( - I'm wondering how many girls you're playing.
Joni Mitchell wrote:Late last night I heard the screen door slam.
And a big yellow taxi took away my old man.
Don't it always seem to go
That you don't know what you've got till it's gone?
They paved paradise and put up a parking lot.
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Post Post #115 (isolation #11) » Tue Feb 06, 2007 8:59 am

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Waiting to hear from SL. Looks like he's keeping a suspiciously low profile.
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Post Post #121 (isolation #12) » Thu Feb 08, 2007 4:45 am

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IH wrote:
unvote, vote:Draygen mage


...How is a fake daykill antitown? It put a player into a panic. That's always good.
But you can always combine business with pleasure by voting for Adele.
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Post Post #123 (isolation #13) » Thu Feb 08, 2007 8:41 am

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^^^^
Great post

Now let's get back to business and lynch Adele.
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Post Post #127 (isolation #14) » Fri Feb 09, 2007 5:15 am

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Lecturing people on how your mind works and metagaming yourself is manipulative.

DIE SCUM

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Post Post #132 (isolation #15) » Fri Feb 09, 2007 12:12 pm

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Yes, it is a cool thing to do, I agree.

But there is no downside to lynching Adele. Let's get on with the job.
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Post Post #134 (isolation #16) » Fri Feb 09, 2007 12:36 pm

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klebian, it's not spelled "pots" it's spelled "Adele." Please revise your vote so as not to confuse the mod.
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Post Post #138 (isolation #17) » Sat Feb 10, 2007 4:11 am

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Adele wrote:
Penguins of the Serengeti wrote:But there is no downside to lynching Adele. Let's get on with the job.
No downside for
you
certainly. Since you got so obsessed with killing me following my revealing myself to also be in Pooky's little black book, I'm suddenly suspicious that your win condition is merely to see me dead. Are you a lyncher, POTS?
I wish I were a lyncher, but no.

I am just trying to get something happening in this game, and injecting a bit of humor. You're as good as any other "target" and if people are voting me for this, that's a good development just the same, as long as this game doesn't stall.
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Post Post #143 (isolation #18) » Mon Feb 12, 2007 2:03 am

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Twito, IH, we are past the goofy random voting stage.

It's time to vote for Adele.
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Post Post #146 (isolation #19) » Mon Feb 12, 2007 9:09 am

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IH wrote:Nah, I'm saying Pots myself.
Sure. But maybe you could give reasons why you think I should be lynched, then I can answer back... you know, play a game of mafia.

At the same time, I maybe I can try to convince you to vote for Adele.

This game has to get started, come on people.
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Post Post #148 (isolation #20) » Mon Feb 12, 2007 9:24 am

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I am not sure what you mean by "have" but regardless, I don't have Adele.

I find her genuinely scummy. This post: http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 012#499012 is an uncalled for rehash of an old game. It sounds like a pre-emptive excuse to me, a kind of psych stragety to influence the town.

Then I keep voting for her and asking everyone to vote for her, and she coolly doesn't even get a teensy bit defensive.

And when people vote for me in return, she doesn't vote for me! Why? I suspect she doesn't want to compromise herself voting for a townie.

So, within a few pages and a few posts, I seriously think that Adele is scum, and we should lynch her.
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Post Post #154 (isolation #21) » Tue Feb 13, 2007 4:28 am

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Adele wrote:IH is saying, it's pretty hypocritical of you to be up in arms about people voting for you without any explanation, given how you've treated me.
Show me where I am up in arms.

I am just trying to stir this game a little. Naturally, barely past the interminable random voting and roleplaying stage this game has had, a random effect is necessary.

Like I said, you, Adele, is as good as any other player.

I don't mind people voting for me if it means this game MOVES.

"How you've treated me" - How I've treated you??? It's a GAME, and it's impersonal. I am not "treating" you, haha. I am just playing a game called Mafia.

This being said I find that you post answering me is very scummy. Maybe you didn't need to panic because you knew your scumbuddies wouldn't vote for you, so a wagon on you would be unlikely?
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Post Post #156 (isolation #22) » Tue Feb 13, 2007 7:04 am

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Yes, at the beginning you try to get a bandwagon going sorta randomly. Adele's post have scummy vibes. I am grasping at straws for sure, because it's so early in the game, but I do find her posts scummy as they get relative to the stage of the game that we're at. So it's a mixture of my willingness to start the game on a random momentum, and Adele providing some fodder.

I am at lynch -2. Want me to claim? I can claim, you'll have to unvote.

Sorry if my role allows me to be a little cocky ;-)
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Post Post #158 (isolation #23) » Tue Feb 13, 2007 7:42 am

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In case it wasn't obvious enough, I am a Mason.

What about wagoning klebian?
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Post Post #167 (isolation #24) » Tue Feb 13, 2007 12:16 pm

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Adele wrote:There's a player who can visit folk in the night. There are at least 2 folk he can visit - possibly more. There's no guarantee, as far as I know, of anyone's innocence in this little love triangle.
I was not aware of these particular details.
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Post Post #168 (isolation #25) » Tue Feb 13, 2007 12:17 pm

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Oh, and I want to be cool.

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Post Post #170 (isolation #26) » Tue Feb 13, 2007 12:39 pm

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Adele wrote:Check your role pm.
Adele wrote:'Pooky, I'm sorry we never got that night together. You always seemed to have an interest in me, then you get a chance and plump for someone else? :( - I'm wondering how many girls you're playing.
When he doesn't visit me - like last night - there's the excuse that he has to "work". I wonder what he was "working" on last night :x
I did check my role PM. My recollection was correct. The details you mentioned were missing, about there being two people that he can visit, possibly more, or a love triangle. I have none of that. The "work" thing is there, though.

Interestingly, I was not visited either.
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Post Post #176 (isolation #27) » Tue Feb 13, 2007 3:06 pm

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I took his post as a semi-veiled confirmation of Masonry, however, I was not visited at night. If you read carefully, he wrote "every night" so that could not be meant literally.
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Post Post #177 (isolation #28) » Tue Feb 13, 2007 3:06 pm

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Yamahako wrote:So... its not really that you're a mason is it? I'm not certain this clears you at all.
My PM does say "Mason" specifically.
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Post Post #181 (isolation #29) » Tue Feb 13, 2007 4:29 pm

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When I get a PM that says "Mason" I think I am a Mason.

Funny. Very early on Pooky expressed some skepticism regarding the alignment of Masons, saying that being Mason with me did not mean I was innocent.

Now, Adele is continuing on with the same tune. She claims Mason, but they she immediately casts doubt on alignment. Furthermore, she claims that we can't treat our role as "confirming."

There is nothing in my PM that would lead me to believe there might be something funny with the mason's alignments. Nothing at all. I am aware of the possibility of scum masons, but there is no hint of that in my PM.

I find it most strange that BOTH my mason partners would be so incredibly touchy about alignment and confirmation. It really stands out.

Note that I am Mason with Pooky, but not with Adele. I want to make sure everyone understands this correctly.

Since she's so worried about alignment, we can lynch her and find out for sure.
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Post Post #188 (isolation #30) » Wed Feb 14, 2007 2:24 am

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A male penguin or Pooky can tell right away that I am female.

Still. I find it very unusual that two masons would be so insistent that their alignment is unknown. Maybe it is to dodge nightkills.
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Post Post #189 (isolation #31) » Wed Feb 14, 2007 7:33 am

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This is not about the game but I just want to point out that Twito and I are scummy valentines, nener-nener-nener to the rest of you that have no scummy valentines.

Now back to the game.
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Post Post #202 (isolation #32) » Fri Feb 16, 2007 5:55 am

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Who wants to confirm our alignments on Day 1 and make us all targets for nightkills?
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Post Post #206 (isolation #33) » Fri Feb 16, 2007 8:06 am

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Twito wrote:So weren't we lynching klebian here?
Oh, alright.

vote: klebian


I do you a favor today, you do me a favor tomorrow and lynch Adele, K? If you could vig her, that would be cool, too. She sounds like a scum Mason.
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Post Post #217 (isolation #34) » Sat Feb 17, 2007 3:19 am

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Twito wrote:A-ha. Conviniently "forgetting" to unvote. Hmm..
I though you loved me! </3? I still love you tho.
I HAD to unvote? Urgh?

unvote, vote: klebian
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Post Post #220 (isolation #35) » Sun Feb 18, 2007 1:13 pm

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Pooky is such a weird Mason - his first vote was for me and straight away he questioned my alignemnt - and Adele's unilateral masonry with Pooky is so weird in the sense that she also was immediately questioning alignment... that any time during this game I would note be averse to voting against my so-called mason Pooky and mason-by-association Adele. Also weird that he didn't talk to either of us last night.

Adele is probably going to give me herpes or crabs anyway.
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Post Post #222 (isolation #36) » Mon Feb 19, 2007 2:02 am

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Don't worry sweet stuff if Pooky gave me Adele's herpes I haven't flared up as of yet.

I look forward to your input. Conveniently, klebian made a post for you to tear into shreads with your powerful kangaroo hindlegs.
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Post Post #229 (isolation #37) » Mon Feb 19, 2007 4:23 pm

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Twito wrote: The cool people are voting klebian. You can still vote him or bus him in your eagerness to be cool.

To me it looks like Pooky is the one doing people.
I just noticed that there is "WIT" in "TWITO"

Hahahahhaha.
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Post Post #264 (isolation #38) » Sat Feb 24, 2007 7:45 am

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We can lynch klebian if we're bored.
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Post Post #269 (isolation #39) » Sun Feb 25, 2007 1:50 am

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Twito makes a good point. It's going to be very difficult for anyone to vote against anyone that's been early on a Day 1 scumwagon. If scum votes for klebian now, it might win them the game later.
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Post Post #277 (isolation #40) » Tue Feb 27, 2007 7:12 am

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Twito's case against klebian is flawless. We can't go wrong with a klebian lynch.
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Post Post #283 (isolation #41) » Wed Feb 28, 2007 6:00 pm

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Quagmire wrote:Okay, a couple of notes from me:

1] I'm lea
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to recover
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til I get back, YAW i
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2] Tentative deadline is NEXT SATURDAY NIGHT at 11:59PM Central time (-6 GMT). This deadline may be extended if posting picks up.
Has anyone else noticed the secret message embedded in the post from our bacterially blighted mod?
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Post Post #290 (isolation #42) » Mon Mar 05, 2007 9:29 am

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Sure. Let's have some action.

vote: ShadowLurker


Pooky... forget that two-timing Adele... she has crabs... she's not taking her antibiotics because of that cult she joined that forbids her to take showers... come and see MEEEEEEeeeEeeeee tonight!

I will have candles and perfume and a hot bubble bath... and I'll wear that little something Twito bought me for Valentine's Day! It's the most darling little kangaroo costume.
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Post Post #297 (isolation #43) » Wed Mar 07, 2007 5:41 am

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Players too chicken to hammer at this point are duly noted.
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Post Post #310 (isolation #44) » Fri Mar 09, 2007 2:06 am

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What's so complicated? We're lynching SL.

The only reason why it's taking so long is because his buddies aren't the bus'ing kind.
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Post Post #331 (isolation #45) » Tue Mar 20, 2007 4:40 pm

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Maybe Pooky wasn't around and the mod made a choice for Pooky because there was no exchange whatsoever between Pooky and myself at anytime during both stages of the night.

I did get a message that some girl was having an affair with Pooky, and that Pooky was getting nervous.
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Post Post #348 (isolation #46) » Sun Mar 25, 2007 8:11 am

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klebian wrote:
IH wrote:Yeah, it said you and Pooky argued.

I know that Twito was the killer though.

Also that does suck CDB = (
Pots didn't even say they argued, though.
That's right. I got nothing beyond what I reported, that is, some female was having an affair with Pooky and that he was getting nervous.

During stage 1 of night, in particular.

Nothing beyond that.

I'd be willing to vote Twito.

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Post Post #377 (isolation #47) » Thu Apr 05, 2007 1:36 am

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Gah! Too many deaths. It doesn't bode well. At least we should hear from poor Panzer.
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Post Post #387 (isolation #48) » Sun Apr 08, 2007 4:01 am

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Are you suggesting that I would kill my mason buddies? Who'd kill their mason buddies, no matter if they are scum or town? Explain better please.
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Post Post #406 (isolation #49) » Thu Apr 19, 2007 12:02 pm

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I am not lying. My PM does say that I am a MASON with Pooky. We can speak at night only if he is not called by the hospital to work on the night shift. Since we never talked, and I never received notification from the mod that it was OK for us to talk, I assume that while Pooky was alive, he was called to work on the night shift.
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Post Post #412 (isolation #50) » Sat Apr 21, 2007 12:13 pm

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Panzerjager wrote:I remember wanting to
Vote Pots
by process of elimination. So Let It Be.
That is so wrong. It's the kind of careless and lackadaisical voting that's going to cost us the game.

I am telling you, my PM spells out "Mason" with Pooky. Maybe the mod was not consistent, but my PM says "Mason." If I said anything else, I'd be lying.
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Post Post #414 (isolation #51) » Sun Apr 22, 2007 5:19 am

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Yama, who asked you to claim? Why are you revealing this information? Did you ever make that significant post you promised? I reckon it might have vanished, do you remember? What's the significance of your having conversations with Chamber/jalyn?
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Post Post #419 (isolation #52) » Sun Apr 22, 2007 11:30 am

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No, I am not evil, and again, I repeat, my PM did say I was a mason with Pooky. You say I am lying about this, but I am not. What do you want me to say? That's all I got. Yama, your PM may not have said "Mason" or "Hider" but mine did say Mason. I understand why you think that way given the evidence you got, but unfortunately, the mod was inconsistent, and therefore, your conclusion is wrong. It would be very miserable if we lost the game assuming that the mod would be 100% consistent across the board, which he obviously wasn't.

I am paying attention to the "few posts made in the game" but honestly I can't make heads or tails of what's going on, there are some strange roles and strange mechanics.
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Post Post #420 (isolation #53) » Sun Apr 22, 2007 11:33 am

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@ IH

Who did you watch last night, what happened?
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Post Post #424 (isolation #54) » Wed Apr 25, 2007 1:56 am

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Can the players that have contributed little be prodded? klebian, IH come to mind.
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Post Post #430 (isolation #55) » Thu Apr 26, 2007 12:51 am

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Why pick the same person twice? There will be more information for the town if you pick someone else.
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Post Post #434 (isolation #56) » Fri Apr 27, 2007 5:15 am

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Yeah, Panzer, you bettter give a reason. This game has been very short on reasoning.

If you're scum, vote for me and win the game. Good idea.
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Post Post #435 (isolation #57) » Fri Apr 27, 2007 5:25 am

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There are two idiots voting for me now. Namely, Yama and Panzer.

Who is alive now, not counting myself:

Atticus replaces draygn_mage
IH
Panzerjager (an idiot)
Yamahako (another idiot)
klebian

Since only 4 are needed to lynch, and for the scum to win, I would have been lynched a long time ago if klebian and IH were scum. Or at very least, at lynch -1.

I know I am town, and I know that IH and klebian are probably townies. Atticus also strikes me as earnest.

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Post Post #437 (isolation #58) » Fri Apr 27, 2007 9:05 am

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You know I am not scum, because you're scum. I know I am not scum, because I know my role.

I am not sure about Panzer, because of the strange hospital stay, but I am sure enough that you're scum, Yama.
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Post Post #439 (isolation #59) » Sat Apr 28, 2007 2:36 am

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Klebian, how can Yama prove himself? Personally I have a hard time believing that there would be so many masons in the game. First, he hid with the now-defunct chamber (dead people are always convenient in scum fake claims), then, TWICE with Atticus/DM, which I find really strange. Most players would have chosen someone else, because they hope that their ability be confirmed by as many players as possible. Could it be that Yama is scum with Atticus?

Quite conveniently, IH discovered that Atticus wasn't home. His excuse was that the was "hiding with Yama" which I find very odd. Because it should be the reverse. Yama chose to hide with Atticus, so that I would expect Yama to show up as "not home" and Atticus to show up as "being home."

See where I am going? Some things seriously don't add up.
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Post Post #442 (isolation #60) » Sat Apr 28, 2007 7:59 am

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Atticus, you shouldn't answer questions aimed at others. I wanted to hear Yama's explanation, I don't like that you're butting in to give him ideas on how to get out of it.

I don't get how Yama is un-nightkillable, and frankly, an un-nightkillable mason hider, who gets to pick a new mason when the old one dies... when the first mason was scum... and conveniently he has a place to "bring his partner to" to explain why the partner wasn't found at home... and when the game already has 3 other masons, that don't get to pick new partners when the old ones die...

That's just too much for one role. Do you expect me to believe...

(1) first Yama "mason" dead, and was scum
(2) hider
(3) mason + might talk
(4) when selected mason dies, picks a new one
(5) takes mason to a "place" that explains why the chosen person isn't found at home.
(6) a 5 mason mini-game???
(7) un-nighkillable? right, 'cuz the mafia won't kill YOU, 'cuz you're the mafia!

vote: Yamahako


And guess what. Since Atticus had to help you along explaining away this humongous lie, I say he's your partner.
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Post Post #445 (isolation #61) » Sat Apr 28, 2007 11:22 am

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It doesn't change the fact that Atticus chose to answer for Yama. Atticus says that he "thought" I was "interpreting it wrong" but still, unless he felt he could make something up that is more clever and convincing than Yama, why should Atticus butt in? Clearly, Yama is the most competent person to answer my question accurately - unless, of course, Atticus thinks he's the better liar, and stepped in to guide Yama and give him ideas.

Atticus, rather than accusing another player of fishing, I would have expected you to comment on the following:
POTS wrote:(1) first Yama "mason" dead, and was scum
(2) hider
(3) mason + might talk
(4) when selected mason dies, picks a new one
(5) takes mason to a "place" that explains why the chosen person isn't found at home.
(6) a 5 mason mini-game???
(7) un-nighkillable? right, 'cuz the mafia won't kill YOU, 'cuz you're the mafia!
Are we supposed to believe this claim?
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Post Post #450 (isolation #62) » Sun Apr 29, 2007 1:06 am

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Atticus wrote:6) If 2 of the masons are scum, than a 3 mason minigame is not too unbalanced.
Thanks for pointing that out, I didn't even notice, but yeah, if you believe Yama's claim AND his accusation against me, you'd have 2 scum masons in the game... haha.

Atticus, no need for a no-lynch. After Yama's wild and crazy claim, I think we have enough of a lead that we'll get more info from lynching him, than a no-lynch. I think we got scum.
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Post Post #451 (isolation #63) » Sun Apr 29, 2007 1:14 am

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Atticus wrote:
POTS wrote: (5) takes mason to a "place" that explains why the chosen person isn't found at home.
5) Would this not be hiding?
No... that's not "standard hiding" where the hider would hide where the chosen player resides. It's not even hiding where the hider resides! No... it's hiding in a 3rd place... weird isn't it... unless you're scum trying to explain why the person you hid with was found "not home" on the night you were hiding with them.

It's another far-fetched, credulity-stretching detail of Yama's claim.

Atticus, your continued defense of Yama, your calls for a no-lynch, and the fact that Yama picked you
two days in row
to hide in some strange place that give you "protection" are noted. If Yamahako has a partner, you're it.
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Post Post #453 (isolation #64) » Sun Apr 29, 2007 2:49 am

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I don't believe either of you! :cry: :roll: :cry:
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Post Post #457 (isolation #65) » Sun Apr 29, 2007 6:27 am

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klebian wrote:
Penguins of the Serengeti wrote:
Atticus wrote:6) If 2 of the masons are scum, than a 3 mason minigame is not too unbalanced.
Thanks for pointing that out, I didn't even notice, but yeah, if you believe Yama's claim AND his accusation against me, you'd have 2 scum masons in the game... haha.
Wait, who would the other scum mason be in this situation? You, and whom?
Er, I am not saying there are any scum masons. I know that I am not a scum mason, and I don't believe Yama's claim at all. He's like an un-NK'le mason hider takes the target to another place all-in-one, who gets to pick another mason when the old one dies, give me a break.
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Post Post #458 (isolation #66) » Sun Apr 29, 2007 6:30 am

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klebian wrote:
Penguins of the Serengiti wrote:Atticus, your continued defense of Yama, your calls for a no-lynch, and the fact that Yama picked you two days in row to hide in some strange place that give you "protection" are noted. If Yamahako has a partner, you're it.
You keep seeming to ignore what yama has claimed. He has claimed that he
CANNOT PICK HIS HIDEE
. There is no picking atticus 2 days in a row thing.
This is what Yama himself wrote, emphasis mine:

"On night 2 is
when I picked DragynMage
(through his role name) but I wasn't allowed to hide that night, last night was the first time I've hidden."

Doesn't that mean that Yama picked DM, and therefore, contrary to what you are saying, he is in fact choosin his partner, and chose him 2 nights in a row???
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Post Post #459 (isolation #67) » Sun Apr 29, 2007 6:31 am

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Atticus wrote:I'd say a pro-town role verifying what Yama did to me makes it pretty certain that he can hide me somewhere else.
Are you really a pro-town role? Can you confirm that?
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Post Post #460 (isolation #68) » Sun Apr 29, 2007 6:32 am

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Panzerjager wrote:Look it's simple process of elimination, the scum is Yama or POTS. Thats really all there is to say. Lynch pots then we'll look in yama tomorrow.
Panzer, if you are a townie, you are suggesting that we proceed in an order guaranteeing a loss for the town.
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Post Post #461 (isolation #69) » Sun Apr 29, 2007 6:45 am

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Panzerjager wrote:Look it's simple process of elimination, the scum is Yama or POTS. Thats really all there is to say. Lynch pots then we'll look in yama tomorrow.
The only "argument" against me, and remember,
this "argument" was put forth by Yama himself
, Yama of the wild, complicated and convenient claim, is that he doesn't believe my PM says I am a Mason.

He has nothing else.

Do you find Yama's claim believable?

He's created a hugely improbable weird claim for himself, with convenient, and even repeated night choices... please tell me what you find believable, and unbelievable, in his claim. Point by point, please.
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Post Post #467 (isolation #70) » Sun Apr 29, 2007 10:56 am

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klebian wrote:
Penguins of the Serengeti wrote:
klebian wrote:
Penguins of the Serengeti wrote:
Atticus wrote:6) If 2 of the masons are scum, than a 3 mason minigame is not too unbalanced.
Thanks for pointing that out, I didn't even notice, but yeah, if you believe Yama's claim AND his accusation against me, you'd have 2 scum masons in the game... haha.
Wait, who would the other scum mason be in this situation? You, and whom?
Er, I am not saying there are any scum masons. I know that I am not a scum mason, and I don't believe Yama's claim at all. He's like an un-NK'le mason hider takes the target to another place all-in-one, who gets to pick another mason when the old one dies, give me a break.
You said, if I believe yamahako's claim of hider-mason, and I believe his accusation against you that you are not really a mason, you'd have 2 scum masons. Who are these 2 scum masons you're talking about?
That would be chamber (Yama's first "mason"} and myself - again, if you believe Yama, which I hope you don't, 'cuz he's full of it.
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Post Post #468 (isolation #71) » Sun Apr 29, 2007 11:05 am

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klebian wrote:You keep for some reason stupidly repeating that yama's losing info for the town by having picked atticus twice in a row. But in that post, you said that the crazy thing is he has claimed to pick his partner "WHEN SELECTED MASON DIES". ATTICUS HAS NOT DIED, SO YAMA COULD NOT HAVE PICKED ATTICUS TWICE.

jesus
Actually -
Yama wrote:Night 1, chose not to go to my hiding spot, chamber didn't talk to me at all
night 2, was told that chamber no longer was my partner and I had to pick a new one - I chose a name from the list of names (not a players name) and ended up with DragynMage (for atticus' sake I will not say the role name unless he says its ok and someone feels that its important to prove my claim) who also didn't talk to me - I was not allowed to hide that night as I was searching for a partner in phase 1.
night 3, Atticus replaced DragynMage, and I hid with him last night. there was some confusion between me and the mod as to when and wether I could talk last night - so not much happened.
Day 4: Found out Chamber/Jayln died and was evil.
He picked a new partner on night 2, but chamber had not yet died. chamber never confirmed this. Which is strange just the same. On Day 1, masons were being discussed (Adele, Pooky and myself) but he didn't mention his "mason" status.

The way Yama puts it, he's protecting both himself and the person he hides with... both un-nightkillable??? Scum loves to claim they're un-nighkillable.

That's just toooooo much. I can't believe this role.
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Post Post #475 (isolation #72) » Mon Apr 30, 2007 1:26 am

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Yamahako's latest explanation makes more sense.

I don't need to wait for a votecount. The Panzer guy has one vote. I can count to one.

vote: Pannzer
- now he has two votes.
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Post Post #478 (isolation #73) » Mon Apr 30, 2007 5:12 am

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My vote wasn't counted... other than that, Panzer, you're at lynch -1.

In "we lose" who is "we?"

Nice of you to self-vote, you weren't exactly looking for scum all along, were you.
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Post Post #481 (isolation #74) » Mon Apr 30, 2007 11:15 am

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unvote


I want Panzer to explain himself. I give him 48 hours MAX. I'll be glad to hammer.
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Post Post #492 (isolation #75) » Tue May 01, 2007 1:35 am

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Panzerjager wrote:1) This one is huge. You may NOT claim or reveal your "name" in any way, shape, or form. To ensure that you've read this, when you confirm your role, put this first rule in the confirmation PM to me.
Claim your ROLE, dummy. We don't need the name. Give us the role.
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Post Post #493 (isolation #76) » Tue May 01, 2007 1:35 am

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klebian, if we're confident we can lynch SCUM today, we should go ahead. We'll have one less scum tomorrow.
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Post Post #501 (isolation #77) » Wed May 02, 2007 8:55 am

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Mmmmm... Panzer's been playing pretty scummy, but I think I have to believe his claim. IH is some sort of tracker/watcher. Not sure about klebian, giving Yama the benefit of the doubt for now.

At this point, is there a reason not to vote Atticus? I looked at all his posts in this game, and I have a sinking feeling he might be scum. All those short posts, spreading doubt and accusation, instead of raking his brains looking for scum...
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Post Post #511 (isolation #78) » Sat May 05, 2007 12:09 am

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Atticus wrote:
Penguins of the Serengeti wrote: At this point, is there a reason not to vote Atticus?
Only if Yama can verify my role, which I am not feeling inclined to reveal.
What do you mean, "Only if Yama can verify my role"???
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Post Post #518 (isolation #79) » Sun May 06, 2007 1:55 am

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Claim please.
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Post Post #520 (isolation #80) » Sun May 06, 2007 10:36 am

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Flavor please.
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Post Post #526 (isolation #81) » Mon May 07, 2007 1:39 am

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Atticus, that sounds plausible.
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Post Post #527 (isolation #82) » Mon May 07, 2007 1:48 am

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By process of elimination... since I believe Atticus' and Panzer's claims... I am beginning to wonder about klebian.

Who is left?

Atticus replaces draygn_mage (lyncher, with a love triangle flavor)
IH (tracker)
Panzerjager (reporter)
Yamahako (wild and crazy hider)
klebian (unknown)
Penguins of the Serengeti (love triangle mason)

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OK. We need:

(1) The flavor of Yamahako's role.
(2) The flavor of klebian's role (no need to claim the actual role yet)
(3) The flavor of IH's role.

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Post Post #540 (isolation #83) » Thu May 10, 2007 1:48 pm

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klebian wrote:ok
I'm ready to claim if/when we decide I should.
Please don't wait until my kids put me in the old age home.
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Post Post #564 (isolation #84) » Tue May 15, 2007 9:25 am

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Yamahako wrote:
Panzerjager wrote:It's very farfetched, it's mostly the flavor I don't like.
His role sounds more believable than you being a townie at this point. The Media is always corrupt.
I don't like the flavor much either.

I will explain why after the other players whom I asked for flavor, also give it.
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Post Post #565 (isolation #85) » Tue May 15, 2007 9:27 am

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Reminder:
Penguins of the Serengeti wrote: (1) The flavor of Yamahako's role.
(...)
(3) The flavor of IH's role.
I think one of the above said that their flavor would reveal their role. Please try to give the flavor without the role. There has got to be a way.
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Post Post #569 (isolation #86) » Wed May 16, 2007 1:11 am

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Sorry about the mistake.

I still want the flavor of IH's role. Yamahako gave his, sorry for that second oversight.

IH???
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Post Post #571 (isolation #87) » Wed May 16, 2007 11:39 am

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What corruption, why is he sick of it, etc.
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Post Post #578 (isolation #88) » Sun May 20, 2007 1:06 pm

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I want everyone to specify whether they are male or female, in their character. Thank you.
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Post Post #579 (isolation #89) » Sun May 20, 2007 1:17 pm

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But I am pretty sure that Inhim/klebian is the scum. We're all linked together somehow, and linked through the activities of the town, except from Inhim/klebian. He's living with his granny, and his granny is not one of the other characters. He's got the "odd" claim in the lot. It's the piece of the puzzle that doesn't fit.
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Post Post #581 (isolation #90) » Mon May 21, 2007 4:08 am

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I already had taken note of that Yamahako, but while I have your attention, is your "wife" supposed to be another player in the game name list?
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Post Post #585 (isolation #91) » Mon May 21, 2007 12:52 pm

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Panzer you didn't answer my question. Is your role male or female???
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Post Post #587 (isolation #92) » Tue May 22, 2007 1:51 am

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Panzer, am I going to have to pull your pants down, or count your chromosomes???
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Post Post #593 (isolation #93) » Wed May 23, 2007 11:03 am

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How about IH? What sort of equipment do YOU keep in your game pants? Male or Female?
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Post Post #596 (isolation #94) » Thu May 24, 2007 12:48 am

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Some of the genders were obvious, some not. I was hoping someone would slip up, but no one did. We have 3 males and 3 females according to the mod, and claims add up to 3 males and 3 females. I am a little disappointed that the scum didn't slip up.

Who's alive:
Atticus/draygn_mage = "jealous guy" lyncher - male
IH = "sick of corruption" confirmed power role? tracker. - female
Panzerjager = reporter - female
Yamahako = wild and crazy hider, hides with Atticus- male
Inhim/klebian = "former gang member that has been released from prison" vig/NK protection. - male
Penguins of the Serengeti = Mason, love triangle - female

Character names (still alive):
Amare Thompson - male
Alberto Roberghi - male
Patricia Highlander - female
Michael Thatcher - male
Dana Florent - female
Tamara Galloway - female


IH and Panzer are not scum with Inhim/klebian (on acount of today's vote).

So I have to decide between these 4 players.
IH = "sick of corruption" confirmed power role? tracker.
Panzerjager = reporter
Yamahako = wild and crazy hider
Inhim/klebian = "former gang member that has been released from prison" vig/NK protection.


I definitely believe Atticus' claim because it fits with my PM.
I, of course, know mine is true.
Yamahako's I believe but not 100%
I am willing to tolerate Panzer's claim.
But Inhim's claim has him as a totally isolated character.

vote: InHim
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Post Post #605 (isolation #95) » Thu May 31, 2007 2:02 am

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IH wrote:So we had one mislynch, and otherwise good play, and still lost?

= (
That's pretty sad! I was told Pooky was in trouble, and was nervous, because of another woman, and asked what I wanted to do. I said, "kill her!" But then it turns out that woman was Adele.
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Post Post #606 (isolation #96) » Thu May 31, 2007 2:03 am

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We killed 3 bad guys, and still there are two alive?!?!?!
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Post Post #616 (isolation #97) » Sun Jun 03, 2007 2:36 am

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I think the second we became 5 evil against 7 town, the game was lost to the town and there was nothing we could do. We would have needed 5 days with 5 perfect lynches.

The 3-mason group being really odd, we ended up suspecting each other.

"If you and Erica ever get discovered, Tamara will kill the both of you." so two masons could be killed! Another strike against the town. It didn't happen, but if it had, the game could have started out 5 on 5!

I myself ended up killing a mason, because I received a PM telling me that Pooky was very nervous, and asking me what to do. I said to kill the person making Pooky nervous, hoping to slay a mafioso. Instead, I struck down Adele, a townie! Yet another way the town was crippled.

While I liked the intrigue, in retrospect, we were playing a game with a foregone conclusion.

And then... Pooky's and Adele's PM did specifically say "Mason" after all!!! Liars!!!

Also, there was no hope that Pooky ever visit me, since visiting Adele he'd be protected from night kill...
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Post Post #619 (isolation #98) » Mon Jun 04, 2007 1:32 am

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PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:i wasnt really a mason

when i asked quag about guranteed innocence he told me "no"

so i kinda suspected you all.
That's kind of too bad, because the masonry was the town's only asset against 5 scumbags, and no guaranteed innocence... if we had guaranteed innocence, we could have stuck for each other, and maybe not claimed so early. It would have helped if we had been normal masons.
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