Mini 396: ChatMafia Mafia; GAME OVER

[Twito]

Mod said you are missing me here and I though it's so sweet that I just have to make a post.

Vote: StallingChamp

For being rude and not replying to mod when he asked so nicely.

[Twito]

Starting reading carefully, then skimmed after I saw Twito's post, so I won't comment on anything after that.

Vote: Twito

. He seems way too eager to accuse me of massive lurking even though I said I would have limited access...

I don't feel I need to commnt on the whole craplogic thingy at this point, correct me if im wrong.

More to come later...

Just noticed this post as it was the last one on the thread. I'm still not around really..

Hmm.. So way too eager? And when did I accuse you of massive lurking? Way to misrepresentate!

Mod said you are missing me here and I though it's so sweet that I just have to make a post.

Vote: StallingChamp

For being rude and not replying to mod when he asked so nicely.

My first and only post on this thread in which I basicly made a random joke vote. Which is now by StallingChamp being represented as an eager accuse of massive lurking. When did I mention lurking? When did I mention massive?
It's so obvious I hit scum based on your reaction.
Thanks for your help in catching yourself.

[Twito]

duh, nevermind, he isn't even here.

lets try random.com again

unvote, vote Jack

FOS: draygn_mage

for early game votehopping.

Vote: Masterchief

because he hasn't posted yet.

Why did you choose him over others?

FOS: Milkman

unvote Vote: Y

voting coron is a scum tactic.

FOS: Y

In case what coron says is truth.

UNFOS: Y

I think coron is trying to distract me!

FOS: Coron

For trying to distract me.

UNFOS: Coron

Vote: Draygn_mage

for saying he doesn't remember how to play this game.

Ditto, and for randomnesses sake.

vote draygn_mage

Scummy post. You put the third vote on draygn_mage and use "for the randomnesses sake" part to distance yourself from the bandwagon.

Unvote, vote AngusHutchsky

So your using logic 3rd vote on wagon is scum?

2nd FOS: Milkman

Vote: Masterchief

because he hasn't posted yet.

Great vote. Especially sense the game just started.

Your agreeing with his vote?

FOS: Masterchief

I agree with milkman in a way. Your vote can't be random

and

be based on a suspicion at the same time, and in that sense I think you worded your post badly. But however I wouldn't call the 'suspicion' anything real to go on and I think that was evident with the 'for randomness' sake' comment afterward.

This post makes sence.

Ok done commenting first page. You can ignore all those Fosses.
Now I'm just gonna skim rest of the game.

My suspicions in correct order.

1. StallingChamp
Misrepresentating.

2. Masterchief
He got caught for lurking

3. Jack
I was reading the reasons StD had againts him. I count picking on someone doing something that others are doing aswell scummy.

FOS: Masterchief and Jack

[Twito]

Btw I'm back from Acapulco.
I might re-read properly someday.. Probably not. I prefer following the game from now on.

[Twito]

3. Jack
I was reading the reasons StD had againts him. I count picking on someone doing something that others are doing aswell scummy.

StD? He's not even in the game.

Oops meant you sorry...
Mixing games..
Caught up for last 5 hours with all my games and that's too much for my memory to handle.

[Twito]

Huge post with no relevant content. I don't like it...

It's not so huge and I pointed into first part being kinda useless. Which is exactly the reason why I didn't go on about all game like that and stopped after first page.
You do get my suspicions from it. Unless you skipped the important part, end of it. SKIMMER!

[Twito]

3. Jack
I was reading the reasons StD had againts him. I count picking on someone doing something that others are doing aswell scummy.

What does this mean?

What makes you think this is irregular behavior for me?

It is not irregular behaviour for you, the irregularity lies in the fact that you treat two similar cases in dissimilar ways.

1) I haven't treated the similar cases at all...yet.

2) Why is that scummy?

I meant Zindy.

[Twito]

What?

Vote Masterchief

. He responded to my post in less than an hour, meaning he's here, he's reading, but purposely not contributing.

I just happened to be here at the time. I do have a life you know.

Also Twito, have you been smoking pot again because I made that post A LONG TIME AGO.

Infact yes if you find that detail important.

[Twito]

What?

Vote Masterchief

. He responded to my post in less than an hour, meaning he's here, he's reading, but purposely not contributing.

I just happened to be here at the time. I do have a life you know.

Also Twito, have you been smoking pot again because I made that post A LONG TIME AGO.

Infact yes if you find that detail important.

I thought so.

Just bought some new shit. Skunk. It's preeeetty good..

[Twito]

What?

Vote Masterchief

. He responded to my post in less than an hour, meaning he's here, he's reading, but purposely not contributing.

I just happened to be here at the time. I do have a life you know.

Also Twito, have you been smoking pot again because I made that post A LONG TIME AGO.

Infact yes if you find that detail important.

I thought so.

Just bought some new shit. Skunk. It's preeeetty good..

Never heard of it because I don't smoke.

Not to bring other games in to this game but I sure hope you do. Otherwise it would mean your like that by normal.

[Twito]

What?

Vote Masterchief

. He responded to my post in less than an hour, meaning he's here, he's reading, but purposely not contributing.

I just happened to be here at the time. I do have a life you know.

Also Twito, have you been smoking pot again because I made that post A LONG TIME AGO.

Infact yes if you find that detail important.

I thought so.

Just bought some new shit. Skunk. It's preeeetty good..

Never heard of it because I don't smoke.

Not to bring other games in to this game but I sure hope you do. Otherwise it would mean your like that by normal.

What?

You will figure it out. Hint word about what game I'm talking about which you apparently have not read:

bananas

All this quoting is fun!

[Twito]

Vote Masterchief

. He responded to my post in less than an hour, meaning he's here, he's reading, but purposely not contributing.

I just happened to be here at the time. I do have a life you know.

Also Twito, have you been smoking pot again because I made that post A LONG TIME AGO.

Infact yes if you find that detail important.

I thought so.

Just bought some new shit. Skunk. It's preeeetty good..

Never heard of it because I don't smoke.

Not to bring other games in to this game but I sure hope you do. Otherwise it would mean your like that by normal.

What?

You will figure it out. Hint word about what game I'm talking about which you apparently have not read:

bananas

All this quoting is fun!

Yes it is. Also, I found the game and once again, I dont smoke.

It's like watching a comedy on tv but so much better!
Okok I believe you I'm sorry for thinking that you do.. it's just the way you behave..
Not even normal cigarrets?
Then with what did you get sooooo high?

[Twito]

I second the thoughts on the quoting. If its not game related, do it via PM.

It's more fun like that..

And honestly I have no idea what's happening in any of my games.. being basicly absent for 3 weeks kinda makes shit like that happen.

And I told I only skimmed through the game trying to catch the important parts. Re-reading 7 games in one morning isn't as much fun as you could imagine..

[Twito]

Honestly I think Twito is just stupid.

I would assume that is a distancing strategy if I were mafia with you. And if you didn't say offending things like that to me in all the other games I'm with you aswell. I feel hurt inside *cries*
ALL I WANTED IS YOUR LOVE! <3

[Twito]

...even though you think I'm stupid you still love me right?
Just for the record I feel the same about you.

[Twito]

I say we lynch Twito just to make it stop.

Now that's abit harsh ain't it?
You are seriously planning on lynching me for ungamerelated reasons?
Then again that's nothing new.

[Twito]

If it appears in the game - It's game-related.

Why?
Because you spend time to post, but you add nothing of content and distract us from relevant posts.

Yeah but since that appears to be my playstyle it doesn't really hint to my allignment. Whether I'm town or scum doesn't affect it.
So yeah why the hell not let's lynch me!
Nah.

[Twito]

Btw completely new definition of game-related for me.
I'll add some content when I bother to re-read. Right now I have this game listed as boring.

[Twito]

Oh I'm not going anywhere thanks for the offer.

[Twito]

Oh I'm not going anywhere thanks for the offer.

If the game is such a damn "bother" just quit. I'm sure that there are plenty of people that actually want to play.

STFU I already said I'm not quiting thank you very much but if you don't want to play with me just quit yourself.

[Twito]

If this goes on I'm seriously gonna have to ask to be replaced. Like that's gonna help. It's just gonna be the same thing in the next game.

Sorry if I offended your husband/scumpartner by telling him to shut the fuck up.

[Twito]

Telling ppl to shut up is however an obvious scumtell.

[Twito]

Btw we are successfully filling another page with useless BS thanks to you.

[Twito]

I still refuse to drop out so I guess it's better I stop posting for a while and find time for that re-read.

[Twito]

I did a re-read. Will do another one later with notes.

[Twito]

Ranking: Protown, protownish, +neutral-, scummish, scummy.

Zindaras:
He has been contributing and providing content. His suspicions seem to change pretty often. Had the fight with Jack. (defending Coron?) I would lean on to his side on that fight. Was part of wagon that forced AngusHutchsky to roleclaim at very early state of the game.
Neutral-

Coron:
Can't really remember too much at all about him even though I just made a re-read. He was the reason to begin the fight between Jack and Zindaras. He promised to come back with a proper re-read post with notes. Yet to appear.
Neutral while waiting for the post he promised.

AngusHutchsky:
Was forced to claim very early in the game. Imo for nothing. I believe his roleclaim for now. And anyways it's gonna be proven by tomorrow either by picture or by him dying.
Lately he has become silent.
Protownish.

Twito:
I wasn't around the beginning of the game. Answered to prod at some point middle game. After that checked the newest posts incase there is something important about me. Such as me being re-prodded.
Returned to the game couple of days ago. Skimmed through game and was planning on playing without proper re-read. Talked some off-game stuff. That's about it.
Protown.

Y:
I absolutely don't agree with his logic.
He added secound vote on AH wagon earlier in the game that forced AH to roleclaim. He was also probably secound strongest pusher of that wagon after milkman. Rolefishing and attempt to finish day quickly with AH lynch.
Asking for others to post content without doing so himself.
Scummy.

StallingChamp:
Away the beginning of the game. (bringing this up now before I didn't intent to accuse him of this since I was away aswell)
On my first post I made a joke about him. He rephraced my joke to something it wasn't. Has declared to keep his vote on me all day.
Gone back to lurking. No posts for last 4 pages.
Scummy.

HurriKaty:
Added his vote as 4th vote on wagon that forced AngusHutchsky to roleclaim. Didn't really provide reasons behind this bandwagon vote. Been more or less absent posting pretty contentless. Trying easy twito-lynch. Seen scum do that in many games. I'm obviously wrong person to point this out.
Scummish.

Masterchief:
Seemingly been away all game until resent post points into him being around but not posting: lurking.
Got caught badly for it. However pretty much same thing happened in other game I'm with him at the same time. He proved not having a fking clue about what's happening in the game but still being around.
Which kinda led to the offtopic stuff as I was laughing my ass of at the other game and couldn't keep it from affecting this one.
Scummish.

Jack:
Been active and posting content. 5th and last vote on AH wagon that forced AH to roleclaim. Had fight with Zindaras. Imo what he was saying was incorrect. I would however count his defence as stupid rather than scummy.
He did idd treat differently with several ppl who were lurking. Meaning he took it on to Coron and ignored the others. Has explained why he did this later.
His defence looks protownish since he didn't even at the end of that fight seem to realize what he did wrong. "how did I treat them differently I didn't treat the others at all"
Neutral+

ChannelDelibird:
Has made good posts with content. Very reasonable posted.
Protownish.

draygn_mage:
Some good posts were analyzing things happening in the game but basicly just summings without bringing out new stuff.
Neutral+

Milkman:
Pushing very hard on AH wagon and also the starter of this wagon. Took it all the way to the roleclaim without much of reason.
After that only few short and contentless posts.
Scummish.

AngusHutchsky - 5 - milkman, Y, zindaras, hurrikaty, jack

If I make the re-read with notes it's gonna have to wait for a while. This is based on my resent re-read without notes.

[Twito]

MOD: Votecount

was already asked couple of pages before. This is new request for it.

I'm happy with my vote on StallingChamp. He has not answered the misrepresentasion of my joke vote and has gone back to lurking.

Ppl ranked as Scummy or scummish on my last post equal fosses.

[Twito]

By the way...someone posted that they wanted to pick what I draw not let me pick myself, so go ahead and pick.

You said earlier you were gonna draw someone in something.
Anyways for me it's cool that you decide yourself and let us know beforehand.
If you can't decide just draw a flower.

[Twito]

By the way, I really like the way Twito started taking the game seriously.

Oh thank you so much.

Ok AH so what is the drawing gonna be? Decide it now. Use one of the suggestions given.

[Twito]

But I wanna see how the noose would look like with Y...

[Twito]

I don't see us being even nearly done with D1. There is a lot more to discuss on and find the most scummiest player.

If Zindaras says Katy can do better I take his word for it and expect something from Katy. Katy is listed after my reread as scummish and hasn't posted since making it 3 days without posting and all game without content.

Masterchief probably can't do any better. He just claimed scum on another game. He can do the unthinkably stupid move anytime anywhere. What we might want to think about is do we want this kind of player in the endgame? It's imo too damn dangerous to be with player like this in endgame and I'd rather get rid of him earlier on. However I think we have a lot more to discuss for D1 with all players still here. I'd love to see MC put himself together... naaah I'd rather lynch him. Or maybe if he could be replaced?

MC would you rather be lynched or replaced?

Bigger fos: Y

for rush in finishing d1.

[Twito]

I don't see us being even nearly done with D1. There is a lot more to discuss on and find the most scummiest player.

If Zindaras says Katy can do better I take his word for it and expect something from Katy. Katy is listed after my reread as scummish and hasn't posted since making it 3 days without posting and all game without content.

Masterchief probably can't do any better. He just claimed scum on another game. He can do the unthinkably stupid move anytime anywhere. What we might want to think about is do we want this kind of player in the endgame? It's imo too damn dangerous to be with player like this in endgame and I'd rather get rid of him earlier on. However I think we have a lot more to discuss for D1 with all players still here. I'd love to see MC put himself together... naaah I'd rather lynch him. Or maybe if he could be replaced?

MC would you rather be lynched or replaced?

Bigger fos: Y

for rush in finishing d1.

lol.

Hey why don't you ever vote? I mean all the fos's are good, but all you do is point fingers.

Or is it just stallingchamp is the scummiest to you?

Yes atm stallingchamp is the scummiest to me and I'm still waiting for him to explain some of his behavior. He is however not around and my vote isn't doing much good there all alone.. so I guess I could change it.

unvote

But I'm not done with you StallingChamp.

Vote: Y

Being the scummiest with SC based on my re-read and adding more suspicion since.

[Twito]

Your mom taught you to never hug strangers? Or are the some cases when this is acceptable?

Hugs Zindy! ..coz I needed a hug

[Twito]

*feels loved*

@ Twito: Can you tell me exactly what is scummy about me (This goes for all the people voting me)?

I find you some exact posts with high scumminess soon enough. Prolly tomorrow but I don't promise that it will be that early.
Main things for me:
-The wagon on Augus at the beginning of the day.
-Your flatout bad logic. (as judged by me)
-Eagerness of ending day 1. (you do realize day 2 ain't necasserily any better..?)

We shouldn't end Day just to end Day.

Exactly.

[Twito]

He alone ain't the reason of my 4th vote on you. He just made me realize that my vote was pretty much useless where it was and being almost equally suspicious of you and SC made you the likely one to get it.
I'm the one responsable of my vote on you, not milkman.

I will need a re-read on you.

[Twito]

Didn't make the re-read yet and I'm not likely to have time for it tomorrow since I'm going to my brothers place.

[Twito]

Katy is listed after my reread as scummish and hasn't posted since making it 3 days without posting and all game without content.

I've been in Florida and haven't been able to get on and read.

Leave it to Zindaras to try to get at me when I'm not here.

I take that as you are back now. Cool that now you are here. Can we expect a post with content?

Btw I prolly won't be posting tomorrow nor later today.

[Twito]

I'm not gone afterall.
But I just did 1 and half hour reread. I'm as good as gone now.

[Twito]

I was just trying to be polite..

[Twito]

And when I echo peoples opinions, Jack, I always seem to be told to stop it.

I'd like to know your opinions. If they are the same with others, not important.

There is still plenty of time until deadline like Zindy said and I will post my full reasons for voting you Y as soon as I have time for it. I've been extremely busy with other games, I have 13 or so I believe, and some with deadlines sooner than the one on this game. Also I have some RL stuff now..

[Twito]

For the moment being you can put my vote as gut feeling until I go and look what caused this gut feeling.

[Twito]

Actually now that I count them I have 15 games atm.

[Twito]

Tomorrow is this games turn. Sorry for taking long.

[Twito]

Masterchief wagon > Y wagon.

Always. I have no fking idea what I'm doing in Y wagon in a game with MC.

In my defense it's a lot easier to keep up with a game than to catch up on one. If I get behind on games I have to spend a large lump of time to really catch up, however if I just need to keep up it only takes a few minutes.

Truth on most games. And then there are games like LO2.

unvote vote: Milkman

clearly scum.

Why?

Writing a lot of meaningless posts quoting other meaningless posts

That's how I play. In top of that I also like to post content and catch the scum but that's less important.

Seriously, why isn't Katy getting more votes?

I really don't remember anyone stating too many reasons at all..

Zindaras, must you constantly beat a dead horse?

You're not dead.

I have already stated that I wish to know your opinions.

You said you wouldn't, because then you'd just be echoing others. That is entirely irrelevant, as that'd mean that nobody would ever be able to agree with someone else.

You still haven't given anything remotely resembling what I want to see from you.

Scum, yo.

Apparently this game has become all about what you want now.

I want to see those too.. I think I stated this already..

At this point, I'm not even sure if my opinion would change your mind, because you seem dead set on sticking to the fact that you want to lynch me when there are a million other discussions going on.

You want a contribution to the game? Alright, fine.

Vote: Zindaras

That's not contribution. That's an OMGUS vote.

Frankly the last time I echoed someones opinion, I was lynched for it. So I'd rather not post than do that again.

I think 4 players in this game have already asked you to post your opinions even if they are same than someone elses.

My opinion on everyone right now is you all seem to be desperate to lynch someone before deadline

Obviously.

since I'm damn tired of always being attacked on Day 1

Haha.. No one gets attacked more Day 1 than me. Or maybe MC since I'm bringing it to him.

I'm amazed, he actually hasn't posted since voting twito. You still think twito is scum?

He seems to have dissapeared from mafiascum entirely. I already mentioned he was missing few pages ago.

MOD:

Can we get a replacement for StallingChamp?

I re-read why I have my vote on Y and see if I keep it or change it afterwards.
If I do change it I'll prolly change it to MC just coz he is MC.

Mafiascum has been down for a while now so I will not have time for that re-read. I'm just waiting to get to post this one..

[Twito]

Vote: Masterchief

I haven't seen him post anything of substance for a while.

Have you seen him post anything of substance ONCE IN THE ENTIRE GAME?

Or in any other game either?
He has to be replaced or lynched. Doing my re-read now.

[Twito]

Vote: Coron

for crap logic.

I'll make it

Vote: AngusHutchsky

. Same reason.

His vote on AH.
If I recall correctly that's secound vote on AH.

I find it interesting how you like to only use part of my quotes. In that first quote you might note that I also said I am not new to Mafia, yet you seem to have conviniently left that part out so that you could make the point that I am acting dumb. As far as the second quote, all I can say is it's true.

What I got from his post, actually, is that you're acting dumb

although

you're not new to the game, thus, by your reasoning - You're scum.

I'm just telling you what I think milkman is saying, but you do act dumb in some ways:
1. You're using the "I'm new on the site" excuse while saying that you're not new to mafia.
2. You "random" vote with a reason.
3. You're saying that you know the reason for your vote and therefore it stays, yet no one else can understand it.
4. You wrote "Everyone else is voting randomly, why are you picking on me?", while the reason for picking on you is that your vote isn't random.

Those are the ones on the top of my head. I'm not willing to reread the whole thread right now and find everything. It's after 2:00am around here after all...

1. This site can be very different from many other ones. Also more importantly AH never used being new to the site as an excuse.
2. Basicly random but reason added makes it better than only random vote. How is this scummy?
3. Yeah. Being Random is a reason. I can understand it.
4. Basicly it is. Just a bit better as he added some reason for it.
Also it was only secound vote for dragyn so you can't really blame him for bandwagoning either as Y already had 2 votes on him at that time and he voted Dragy with 1 vote on him.

I almost forgot the most important one: You really seem like you can't understand our accusations.

How is that scummy if he really can't understand them? You should try to explain better.

For Y's profit he did try to explain the accusations again. To me they look very weak and not nearly enough for roleclaim request but he did try to explain them.

But now that I look at it Y wasn't the worst one on that wagon. Katy's jump on the wagon looks pretty bad to me. Jacks a little bit better but still terrible.

Does any one else has a real life character? Does any one else has an artist?

His character sounds very different than mine and I want to see if we can find any patterns.

This is just rolefishing here.

I can prove it exists, what would you like me to paint for you?

Either you're a liying scum, so you'll be deat today or tomorrow - The sooner the better, Or you're town.

If you're town and you survive today, you're a confirmed townie (As you say) - You won't outlive the night.

You're dead already, the question it: "Do we want to wait untill tomorrow for it to happen?"

I don't like this post looks scummy to me.

I could have sent you my suspiciouns secretly each night through my work, but now my role means nothing. Now will you go lynch a Scum instead of me?

Just thought about it: Why would we need some one that can send us his suspicion secretly during the night? It's not like you're mute during the day...

Sounds false to me.

Keeps attacking the claim trying to get AH lynched. If you don't believe that ability exist we can just lynch him tomorrow can't we?

After milkman put some pressure on him Y instantly unvoted.

Y's post #83 rubs me up the wrong way. Could be rolefishing under the cover of trying to disprove Angus' claim.

Eventually we will have to do it. There's usually a pattern.

But D1 might be too soon though...

At this point you are still trying to reason your rolefishing. The only advance I can see from it is for scum

I'm actually starting to think they're both scum.

So much drama for nothing but OMGUS votes...

This is your only comment on the situation between me and SC?

I will continue to participate in discussion and everything. I am just letting people know that I do not plan on moving my vote.

That isn't something I would expect hearing so early...

The game starts to slow down. I don't like it...

Ok you are pointing to game starting to slow down.

Couple of contentless posts.

I need a reread. I'll try to do it today...

This post didn't come until 3 days later and it has very short opinion on everyone and doesn't even look like he did re-read before making it.

Masterchief: Who is it?

What?

This guy should be killed on first page every game he is in.

Huge post with no relevant content. I don't like it...

It's not huge. I can point to huge posts I've made. I said I didn't re-read properly and I pointed in to the beginning of the post being useless as I wasn't here to make jokeposts about day 1. Your just trying to make me look bad here.

I say we lynch Twito just to make it stop.

I don't like this post

If it appears in the game - It's game-related.

Why?
Because you spend time to post, but you add nothing of content and distract us from relevant posts.

I still don't agree with this definition of game-related.

I'm honestly wondering if Twito is some sort of Jester to be acting as shitty and annoying as he is right now.

Last time someone suggested I'm a Jester that someone was scum if I recall correctly.

We're at P10 and D1 doesn't seem to have an end.

I'll

Confirm Vote: Masterchief

. His post count is 9, content - 0.
We can't afford to ourselves having some one at endgame that we don't have any read on. He was here, he was posting and he gave us nothing.

We need some progress.

Rushing the day to finish. Also confirm voted indicating he probably won't change his vote (he did later though).

The rush is that the game started at a good pace and faded out. I hate D1s, especially if they are as boring as this one became.

So you though the beginning where you forced AH to roleclaim with poor reasoning was good and now that noone is claming D1 should be finished?
Really I don't like your rush.

After he looks to be blaming milkman on things.

After apologizing for the rolefishing in the beginning of the game.

That said I still find Y scummy but I found other people I would prefer lynching. Katy in particular looks more scummy to me after that re-read. And I'm still very suspicious of StallingChamp for the same reasons as earlier. Looks like we will get a replacement for him however.

unvote
Vote: MC

Coz he has to die or be replaced in every game he is in.

[Twito]

Ant I don't agree with your accusations against me. Tough life...

If you would that would mean you are scum.. It's not that big of a suprice that you don't agree with them.

[Twito]

@AniX- Welcome aboard!

Still no word from Masterchief I see.

My guess about his post when he finally posts: "What?"

No seriously he is completely useless and threat to the town no matter of his allignment. If he is not replaced we really should lynch him.

[Twito]

I am here, btw. Just reading.

Just reading? There hasn't been anything new for a good while now.
Me also wants MC's replacement to claim as soon as he shows up. MC obviously ain't gonna show up, he has dissappeared.

[Twito]

MC is as good as lynched as I prefer a lynch over no lynch but even though he is gonna die if he turns up protown the thoughs might be useful.

[Twito]

I don't see why it's alarming...I put it there because there is a deadline, and as Jack said, if we have to lynch someone it might as well be a lurker. I still believe that Y is scum, but leaving my one vote on him will do nobody any good with a deadline tonight, so the next best thing is getting rid of a lurker.

He would die even without your vote on deadline. Please read the rules.

[Twito]

Ummm yeah so we are missing a picture and we didn't have a nightkill. First of all let's hear what AH has to say. Secound of all I'm gonna sleep like right fking now or I collapse.

[Twito]

Why bother with FoS?

Vote:AngusHutchsky

Vote: AngusHutchsky

So?

[Twito]

I wouldn't be so quick to vote Angus. Perhaps we have a Mafia Roleblocker in the game attempting to frame him? Probably an out there suggestion, but still possible.

FoS: HK

He just made up an excuse couple of posts ago why he didn't send the picture. Yeah right.

[Twito]

No one is attempting to frame me, I just forgot to send the picture in before I left town.

You said you were away for the weekend. However the night started on TUESDAY. That left you 3 days to send it in even if you were gonna be away for the weekend.

[Twito]

I didn't really find you scummy based on read of yesterday though but the picture missing is very alarming as we were talking about it a lot yesterday.

[Twito]

... and yes, I know I could have sent in my picture earlier in the week.

Oh yeah. Though you meant like before the night or something.

You really look like a liar and you know the rule: Lynch all liars.

I kinda agree but I'm very much againts the whole Lynch all liars thing.

[Twito]

I will have problems with activity today on don't replace me I'll find a way to be here once in a while.

[Twito]

I also think we don't need players that don't care enough about the game.

It is not that I don't care about the game, but RL is more important.

If you don't have time to put 5 minutes for mafia in a week ask to be replaced. I don't wanna lynch you if you are town and that's what I've though of you all game long but I don't like your behavior now. You might cause a mislynch if you are town and if you are scum.. well good move.

[Twito]

...and it's also worth mentioning that I don't believe anyone would be given a role whose sole purpose is to confirm their innocence. There's gotta be more to it (which wouldn't make sense given the nature of the claimed role).

There could be more to it than I was told - in fact, I may have accidentally blocked the kill last night by not sending in a picture.

What makes you think that? If you have some extra information why didn't you bring this up earlier?

I don't see how you not sending in a pic would block any number of nightkills or whatever you are claiming here. I've been drifting between your innocence and scumminess for a while now as I honestly didn't find you scummy before the no-picture-showing-up-this-morning-Incident. Now I think I will confirm my vote as you are starting to add fillings to your claim

Confirm Vote: AH

[Twito]

I gladly don't have cup of coffee in my hand either.

[Twito]

I have no extra information, but it is odd that when I didn't send in my picture, nothing else happened either. It could also be purely coincadence(sp?), I was just pointing it out.

Ah so your not claiming it your just pointing out the coincidence?

[Twito]

There are many possible scenarios. Docs, RB's, UNK townies, hideable townies, scum not sending in nightkills.. I don't really see where this conversation is going either.

[Twito]

Twito away for the weekend.
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... start=1500

[Twito]

Whoohoo! Twito is back! PAAAARTYYYY!
I feel kinda tired so I'll read the new posts tomorrow.. hey wait a secound..?!

[Twito]

I'd also like to hear from AniX as I did find StallingChamp who he replaced fairly scummy.

[Twito]

I'd make a scummy/townie people list inspired by Zindie but it would be pretty much the same as before.

[Twito]

Zindys comment could be scummy or townish regardless of Angusses allignment. Like Jack pointed out it could be defending scumbuddy or "I told you he was innocent" but also it could be townish as Zindy pointed out himself as he could be town defending someone he thinks is town.
It really only depends on the way you look at it.

I'm still kinda feeling this Angus lynch especially when compared to the counterwagons atm. I kinda do find Y scummy aswell for his past behavior but if Angus turns up scum Y is basicly forgiven in my book so I'd like to see where this leads. Then again if Angus is town Y is pretty much in the same light he is now.
And I just love Jack he couldn't possibly be scum and it's not like I would vote him if he were.

From other people without votes on them I feel strongest ex-StallingChamp.

[Twito]

Because we might as well wait until tomorrow. Angus should presend his role or not forget to send his role in and then it's all fixed again.

Yes he could prove that he has a picture painting role if we give him another day. But what if it's a one shot scum ability that does something? What if it's alltogether a scum role? And what if there is no picture tomorrow and all we get is an explanation that he didn't have time for mafia?

And if he is telling the truth about his role, then there's no way he's going to forget twice.

Yeah since he had 1 week last time and didn't have any time for mafia. He didn't say he forgot he said he didn't have time.

Personally I didn't find Angus suspicious before as I've stated multiple times but right now he is on top of my scumlist. I wouldn't count out the possibility of 2 person scum group especially if they have special abilities such as sending in a picture that does something and makes you "confirmed". For that we would just have to wait if there is a picture tomorrow and what happens with the picture.

Post 99: "I don't see what was dangerous about my lynch-2 vote". Naive, but I don't have a problem with lynch-2.
Post 150: "I haven't treated the similar cases at all...yet." Exactly!
"Why is that scummy?" Because you could be trying to protect a lurking scumbuddy by singling out another lurker, or attacking a townie you felt was dangerous.

These 2 I find scummy about Jack but then again he was one of the only players backing me up on StallingChamp.

2) Jack indeed singled out Coron as a lurker. May I point out that Masterchief was also a lurker, and scum to boot?

Now that's a good point I could almost vote for.

[Twito]

Still not convinced. I'm drifting between whether it's better to wait another day with Augus and see if he posts the picture and if he really has some ability and if he has he hasn't claimed it making it scum ability. And I'm not sure I wanna see the effect of scumability rather than lynch the scum. But on the other hand I didn't find Augus suspicious before.
I'd still like to see that StallingChamp replacement aswell.

[Twito]

Uh, you what? As I remember there were quite a few, myself included. There's also the fact that we don't know StallingChamp/AniX is scum, and if he is, Jack could have been bussing (which would be a good reason for him to jump on a lurker instead).

That actually makes sence. If Jack is StallingChamps buddy he would be doing exactly what he did. First bussing and then quickly moving his vote not to danger his partner unnecasserily.
I guess I could give Augus another day coincidering I don't really find his posting scummy. If there is no picture tomorrow he is getting lynch no more mercy.

Unvote

I'd kinda like to hear from new StallingChamp but I guess I could go with Jack lynch today regardless of that.

Vote: Jack

[Twito]

Looking forward what he says tomorrow if there is no picture.
"Maybe there is a scum roleblocker?" "I was busy and didn't have time to send in the picture" "I forgot"

[Twito]

Nice to have this game weaking up. My vote is actually kinda unstable atm. Jack brings up good points.

[Twito]

Let me put it this way, I'm not here.
Be that as it may but I'm still not here.
Far be it from me farther I'm from being here.
In terms of being here, I'm not.
Concordantly I ain't here.
Vis-à-vis me ain't around.
Per se not here.
As it were before so it is still.
Verily not.
Qua?
So to speak I'd like to point out that I don't exist.
ergo no.
Q.E.D.
e.g.
i.e.
You're begging the question.
You're being defensive.
Don't compare apples to oranges.
What are your parameters?
You're so linear

Bah.

[Twito]

This game is so slow I could prolly keep up with it from internet cafes but it's still easier not to.

[Twito]

Let me put it this way.. nah don't let me.

[Twito]

Uh shit I got arrested.. that's what you get for not following..

[Twito]

Let me put it this way
Be that as it may
Far be it from me
In terms of
Concordantly
Vis-à-vis
Per se
As it were
Verily
Qua
So to speak
ergo
Q.E.D.
e.g.
i.e.
You're begging the question.
You're being defensive.
Don't compare apples to oranges.
What are your parameters?
You're so linear

I haven't read anything since I got arrested and don't have time atm.

[Twito]

Can I just add one of those sentences to my sig to avoid getting arrested or does it have to be in my post?

Let me put it this way
Be that as it may
Far be it from me
In terms of
Concordantly
Vis-à-vis
Per se
As it were
Verily
Qua
So to speak
ergo
Q.E.D.
e.g.
i.e.
You're begging the question.
You're being defensive.
Don't compare apples to oranges.
What are your parameters?
You're so linear

[Twito]

Let me put it this way
Be that as it may
Far be it from me
In terms of
Concordantly
Vis-à-vis
Per se
As it were
Verily
Qua
So to speak
ergo
Q.E.D.
e.g.
i.e.
You're begging the question.
You're being defensive.
Don't compare apples to oranges.
What are your parameters?
You're so linear

Check the vacation thread.

[Twito]

Let me put it this way
Be that as it may
Far be it from me
In terms of
Concordantly
Vis-à-vis
Per se
As it were
Verily
Qua
So to speak
ergo
Q.E.D.
e.g.
i.e.
You're begging the question.
You're being defensive.
Don't compare apples to oranges.
What are your parameters?
You're so linear

Actually if I read my role pm correctly I'm pro-town so could you let me know if there is some case againts me?

[Twito]

We went back in time... I say we lynch Twito in this new time line...

So we did. Damn downtime was at worst possible time for me.. at time when I between inactive periods had decent access to internet.. dammit.
And I say we lynch you. I remember finding you reasonably scummy.

[Twito]

Check out Vacation/Limited access.

[Twito]

Maybe he comes up scum this time?

[Twito]

Sorry on vacation and prolly not too much of an access at all before 6th of May.

[Twito]

Me is back from partying. It was great. Like best time of my life. Came back on Sunday but also got sick and am pretty sick atm. I'll try to get back to constant posting now. I'll back in Finland in month and a half so after that atleast my access is truly constant and segure.

[Twito]

Opinions of players alive in all shortness that shall be extended later on.

ChannelDelibird - Has struck me as protown all game long. I believe his claim.
Coron - Has struck me as scummy but CDBs claim clears him. Innocent.
Hackerhuck - Dragynmage looked protown to me. Hackerhuck continued giving me good wibes.
Hurrikaty - Looked scummy to me all along. Scummiest one around atm, gets my vote.

Vote: Hurrikaty

[Twito]

ChannelDelibird - Has claimed Cop/Vig.
If we believe his claim, innocent investigations on Coron and HackerHuck. Possibly naive as cop, that or we have a godfather. Has also failed once as Vig.
Not sure if I believe his claim.

Coron - Struck me scummy before but based on CDb's investigation I cleared him. Now I don't value those investigations anymore. Most scummy of the group read-based. Possible godfather.

Hackerhuck - Read-based the most protown to me.

I'm leaning towards either CDb or Coron being scum. Or even both.

[Twito]

Answering prod. I'll get here and actually read stuff soon but I've been damn busy..

[Twito]

I simply don't have time to read anything at the moment I tried to skim through but there where guestions such as what does Twito have to say about all this and I don't have time atm. I'll post an answer as soon as possible. Gladly the deadline is gone.

[Twito]

I dislike being replaced againts my will. What should I do to ones who did this?

[Twito]

Ya know I've been posting freguently atleast once a week. And answering the prods.

[Twito]

How does quoting role PM sound to you?

[Twito]

It may not be helpful.. call it a playstyle. Nowhere in the rules of mafia does it say you have to be helpful to play. I'm really planning on quoting a PM.

[Twito]

Fine I'm not gonna quote it. But in future I'd like to be informed if replaced/about to be replaced.

[Twito]

I'm gonna stop posting now. Nice game everyone.

[Twito]

Twito, in all fairness to the mod, he posted in thread that he was planning on replacing you. If you didn't catch it while reading the thread, that's a pretty good indication that you should have been replaced.

Deadline removed, I have prodded twito some time ago, I will be looking for a replacement, please if you know anybody willing to play send them to me.

Caught it and posted after it before being replaced. Exactly my point.

[Twito]

GJ Kaleidoscope. Thanks for a nice game.