Mini 393- Vegas Showgirls- Game Over! Showgirls Win!

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Bah! I am sure half of you can't dance as good as I do. Showgirl wanabiees

Random

vote: Adele

because its German sounding, and this means bad.

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Evilandy said he can't dance. I can't shake the feeling that he means it partially as backup for a roleclain

unvote: Adele

vote: Evilandy

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... if it were your first vote no problem but you are changing your vote...

Oh, so we cannot change our votes? (sarcasm off)

To add to that the post you are voting him based on was made before you made your first vote.

That's what I meant. I didn't jump on him shouting: 'He can't dance= scum' I ignored it - but then, after a while,

I cant shake a feeling

there might be something more to his comment. Your strong reaction is interesting.

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Oh yeah, great. All I said was 'he might actualy have the role that cannot dance' and now the votes are on me. ( Actually Twito started this with fos'ing so A vote)
Come on , people, it's day one. I have no vote ideas.

unvote
FOS everybody

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In my opinion it's all blown out of proportion. I would not say that it's because scum are voting on me. For all I know scum might be sitting quiet and laughing.
Let me admit why I changed my random vote. I was a bit ashamed of my previous 'sounds German, must be evil' reason. Furthermore 'german' could also fit ubertimy and even sailor jerry. I choose a first excuse I could think of, and as you already mentioned I did previously noticed and commented on 'I cannot dance'. It is weird a bit
And my OMGUS FOS is just venting my anger, I am NOT fos'ing everybody.

unvoting, unfosing, sitting quietly

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I am here.
Why somebody wanted to quickly kill Twito? And what kind of uber powerful role is this?

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... Totem started off posting a reasonable amount, until the spotlight turned on him, at which point when he went silent.

Hmm, ... Stagefright maybe? (Sailor Jerry you never have a stagefright when the spotlight shines in your face? )
I am here and reading everything. I just don't have any new ideas.
Glork, good to have you here.

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it's not like we give Mith our credit card details.

We dont?? Oh, well. too late now.

WldHrtCgd08 - strange name, but helps set mental picture, welcome to the game

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... he

mass

FoS'd everyone. I don't know about the rest of you, but blanket FoSes are something that I consider a scumtell.

Are you saying that writing "I have no vote ideas. unvote. FOS everybody" means "I believe that I am town and everyone else who plays in this game are scum". That's how I understand your previous post.

I still think the main question we should ask is:
Why somebody wanted to quickly kill Twito?
Somebody used a powerful ability to either stop Twito from doing something or to create confusion and cover something we are missing in the thread. Ubertimmy was the last one to disagree with Twito, but it doesn't look to me as a reason to kill. Maybe it's a delayed kill as Adele stated.

And as you see I am 'sitting quietly', but watching the thread carefully.

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I know that FOSing everyone is nonsensical. I didn’t do that to show you that I believe everybody is scum, but to show that I backed away from random vote and have no idea who could be scum. I really don't understand why this is blown out of proportion.

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Not having any idea, and sitting quietly seems to be a theme with your posts…

I have no idea why are you writing this, I better sit q .. wait a moment! : )

Most of your quotes are from the single post (142) when I tried to explain to Glork that writing FOS everybody didn't mean that I actually believed everybody besides me are scum. You making it look like many separate posts. Why are you doing that? You say " seems to be a theme with your posts" like my last 5 or more messages were filled only with a words 'sitting quietly'

I admit that I still don't know who the scum might be just like you quoted. But I believe MOST of us are in the same situation - we don’t know. Although with this post you moved to the scummy spectrum on my list.

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I second the request to prod/replace Lucretia.

Totem voters! Sailor Jerry voters! Lend me your ears!

All four of them not counting inactive Lucrecia. The rest should skip the post? (irony:off)
Ubertimmy shows up right after being accused of lurking and gives us two targets to choose from instead of putting pressure on him. How convenient. Win win situation for him.

I will go with evilandy and

vote: Ameliaslay

, the next person on lurkers list.

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I am reading all this and my head is about to explode. And I am supposed to be the smart one, maybe it's the old age catching up.
I will reread and post my thoughts this evening. If anyone of you has any questions for me, please assume I am temporary dumb and state them as simple as possible.

Unvote: Ameliaslay

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Totem is too busy trying to appear useful by lurker hunting

Guilty, I admit.

I did a reread and I am not much wiser.
In my notes evilandy and Glork looked slightly scummy but now I see the logic in their posts
I believe WldHrtCgd08 and Jerry are quite probably scum. It puzzles me why Jerry seams to defend me. He started doing this when there was a chance I will be lynched and proved town so maybe he tries to appear town.
WldHrtCgd08 worries me. Look at the very first post when WldHrtCgd08 replaced. #132

I don't see anything too scummy about Sailor Jerry.

abouttovote:SJ FOS:WldHrtCgd08

ubertimmy: I don't understand this at all. can you rephrase:

...I felt his last post was a sort of demoralizing attack, attempting to get me to unvote by saying LOL LURKER ON WAGON OBV RONG. then voting a lurker. He didn't even address my attacks on him. Has anyone else noticed that Totem has not commented on Sailor Jerry either?...

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I am not buyin Sailor Jerry's claim. I am sure

vote: Sailor Jerry

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I think the point you are missing is, that with gender cop it is possible to have male mafia AND male doc for example. Or half a dozen other possibilities.
To stop any unnecessary votes on me let me say up front that I am a girl. Male 'showgirls' , yuck, that makes me sick.
I think I will go and throw up.

WldHrtCgd08 worries me. Look at the very first post when WldHrtCgd08 replaced. #132 "I don't see anything too scummy about Sailor Jerry."

This still makes me to

vote: WldHrtCgd08

And post 53 from evilandy (now confirmed cop)

I'm still waiting for an explanation from Ogre (and Sailor Jerry) why they think Ubertimmy is so scummy. As I said, I can't see any evidence of the second quick lynch. It looks to me more like Ogre (WldHrtCgd08) and Sailor Jerry are trying to organise a bandwagon...

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We need more activity here. I am curious to hear from spectrumvoid.

On the other topic. Twito died 44 players post after the start of the night (on his 6th post). We are now on post 25 of night 2. If the death is delayed we should be worried who can die today. I don’t feel good waiting to see if it happens. If the delay is linked to the number of posts or posts per player it can happened soon.
spectrumvoid , please post.

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Can anyone enlighten me what "governor" does?

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I agree that there is probably only SK left. Doing reread.

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I keep getting "Exceded CPU quota" when I try to read site.

My main thought so far is "mafia was quite powerfull with all those roles"

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The wording of "Gender Cop" sugest's to me two cop possibility.

I am hoping for cop or other protown role.

Maybe the mass claim, I don't know. I am not quite familiar with the theme to know.

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Gah. This thread needs some life, Ameliaslay hasn't posted for yonks, is she still about?

I'll claim first if needs be to get things moving, unless anyone has any objections, I'd rather not mind I'd rather my number one suspicion Totem went first. But anything to bring some life to the thing.

What is chainclaim format?
I can go first, no problem here.
Should we claim Role Name only first and then the Role itself (townie, doc, cop)

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I am Cristal. My role says that I am looking for a new job because Stardust is being razed. Each day I ask a person for vacancies. I suspect I am recruitable or backup.

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Let's hold the voting for a bit and discuss claims. Can we use the info gained? Can we use the roles and the mechanics? Hold voting please.

From my side, I am almost sure to believe: ubertimmy and Adele.
I can confirm being role blocked,
ubertimmy: did you try to block me? If so, say when.

problem is theopor_COD and Shanba looks town as well. Not so strong, but still. ( my personal opininon)

If I would vote, I would guess Shanba. But holding for the discussion.

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My "looking for a job" choices list:
Day 1 - Sailor Jerry (was mafia) - doesnt know about any vacancies
Day 2 - Blocked - (sick and resting)
Day 3 - Meme (was mason) - doesnt know about any vacancies

I wasn't offered job neither by mafia nor by masons so I am thinking that I might be backup cop, doc.
I am unfamiliar with the theme: who can Cristal Conners be recruited by?

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Shanba, your claim makes no sense: what does this have to do with being a vegas showgirl?

I was a dancer before I went on survivor.

Just out of curiosity: Where?

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From my point of view we have:
1. Doc who cannot cure SK attack
2. Hider who cannot hide from SK
3. unconfirmed vanilla townie
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4. Blocker who cannot block SK ( but who blocked me so I consider him confirmed)
5. Backup/recruit who probably missed his chance to gain power ( but will keep looking and finding out more each night)

One of the first 3 must be SK

And the other questions:
a) theopor_COD and Shanba have wierd flavor role.
b) Why both Timmy and Adele are from the same hotel?
c) can we have a lynch before the killer strikes?
d) If hider dies instantly while hiding with SK we can get information from this before Sk kills next night. Can we use this in any way?
e) who should I ask for vacancies next day?

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Theo, Timmy, Adele : I really depend on your input here. (Oh, and please don't vote too soon.)

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Waiting for Timmy. I think I know how we can win this game

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I have a plan: ( Adele is killed when she hides with SK, right? do we know that?)
1. Adele says who she picks to hide with.
2. we all quickly vote nolynch
3a. If Adele is dead during the day we know who the SK is !
3b. If Adele is all right she quickly picks another target and before Sk strikes we all vote nolynch

... repeat. (there is no mafia left, each DAY we sleep safely. It's nights we need to be affraid)

the additionall benefit is each night I will look for work and maybe my ability will give us extra information.

That's why I've been interested how DELAYED sk works.
(oh, and if I were Sk I will definitely not be shareing this plan with you.)

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oh, timmy is here

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Piece of a nice work there Timmy.
I agree and will follow with vote on Adele. On thing I don't like is, that she claimed to be from the same hotel that the person claiming right before her. She is the only person in the whole game that does that.

If we fail I will look for job with Shanba, If she is doc maybe I will turn nurse.
I think Timmy shouldn't block because he is not able to block SK

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I think ubertimmy is the SK.

But he is confirmed roleblocker.

I'm in the same show as Amelia

And that is extremely odd to me.

Just to be sure .. Timmy, does your roleblocking have any constant flavor or method. How exactly do you block? what your role suggests

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Guys,
I get massive warning bells on timmy all of the sudden.

Why, if he has DAY choice, he claims that there was day 0, day 1, day 3
From my point of view it was d1 d2 d3 ( and now it's n3 before d4)

Also, the blocking flavor somehow does not match.
And he is the one of two "Jubiliee" claims

Let me reread and see if he could guessed I was blocked. And fake his claim