Mini 1336 - Revolution Mafia Game Over!

[vijay2vasandani]

VOTE: MattP

Scum found gg.

[vijay2vasandani]

Awwwww kuribo <3

[vijay2vasandani]

Drawing attention to rule 4 just throws it away.

Elmo, why trust both implosion and BB? Personally I'm reading them as opposite alignments atm.

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@ GreyICE: I think I'm voting for MattP. Also it may be easier if you put a "Tokens received" column

Received! I like that word.

[vijay2vasandani]

Fail X.X sorry.

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Elmo, why trust both implosion and BB? Personally I'm reading them as opposite alignments atm.

Explain.

I don't think you guys have different alignments. It's a feel thing.

@ Elmo: what are you on about? That's one rule you shouldn't have drawn attention to.

[vijay2vasandani]

I'm leaning BB town atm. But at about 60-40.

No idea what Spyrex is talking about.

Elmo, that way if we lynched town we could have gotten a legit claim and then backed off, giving us a conftown. Now however, it won't work. Actually that's enough for me to go
VOTE: Elmo

[vijay2vasandani]

Okay, say a townie gets lynched and goes yeah I was actually town. Unvote then we have a conftown. Now, scum won't admit to being scum choosing instead to leave it to modflip because they might be saved if somebody unvotes.

[vijay2vasandani]

Also, two more things:
1. It isn't OMGUS if I have a reason
2. You were voting me? whatever for?

[vijay2vasandani]

Because I know BB and always think he's town early game for some reason.

Also, the reason I haven't fakeclaimed a PR yet is because I'm trying to see what I can make of the trust tokens. Interesting concept, a bit like Resistance.

And where did I say it's odd if people don't agree with me regarding BB and implosion?

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Because I know BB and always think he's town early game for some reason.

Also, the reason I haven't fakeclaimed a PR yet is because I'm trying to see what I can make of the trust tokens. Interesting concept, a bit like Resistance.

And where did I say it's odd if people don't agree with me regarding BB and implosion?

You didn't say it, but you certainly implied it when you asked Elmo why he felt both of BB/implosion were town.

Also, I hope this isn't what SpyreX was referring to, because I'm going to bring it up anyway. Can you elaborate what you mean in this quote:

I don't think you guys have different alignments.

Wow that makes me look stupid. Don't is supposed to be just. I have no idea how that happened though. And if you honestly thought about it, why would I say "it's a feel thing" if I just changed my mind? And why would I say 60-40 BB town and Implosion scum?

@ TML: I'd probably consider the player's ability and then make a judgement from there.

@ GI: Pi isn't exactly 22/7..

@ MattP: the fakeclaim thing was supposed to be an inside joke. One that clearly went over your head. As to intuition, mine is fairly good. But okay I'll do your "proper" scumhunting now.

@ Elmo: yeah, but like I said to TML, the player's ability would greatly influence whether or not I thought they were faking.

[vijay2vasandani]

^ lol.

Okay. Hmmm.

VOTE: Implosion

Trust: BBMolla

[vijay2vasandani]

Wow that makes me look stupid. Don't is supposed to be just. I have no idea how that happened though. And if you honestly thought about it, why would I say "it's a feel thing" if I just changed my mind? And why would I say 60-40 BB town and Implosion scum?

So I read this and thought two things:

1. You typed "don't" when you meant "just"? Wha?

2. You called implosion scum? *checks vijay's iso* Nope, you didn't do that.

I am interested why you think implosion is scum though.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: vijay

It's probably auto correct, but I'm still struggling to get don't from any combination of just. But you should be able to draw the meaning of what I said from my subsequent posts. The second point has been answered.

VOTE: TML

@ Spyrex: if TML's vote was enough to stop you from voting me, I'm assuming you find him scummy. Why marble over him?

[vijay2vasandani]

^ lol.

@ GI: BB has one of my trust tokens.

Trust: Spyrex

[vijay2vasandani]

Yes I read Vijay's iso. HE NEVER ACTUALLY CALLED IMPLOSION SCUM. He called them different alignments yes (and then switched his mind) Notice how he has yet to give even an inkling of reasoning for saying ANY of this.

Spyrex, I asked for reasons why implosion was scum because my vote was an rvs vote and I didn't have a scumread on anyone. Or else I would have changed my vote.

I'm still not seeing how not having any scumreads on page fucking 4 is scummy.

Um. BBMolla and Implosion have different alignments. BBMolla is 60% likely to be town. How did I NOT call implosion scum. And I didn't change my mind. Furthermore, I'm sure as hell I said it was "a feel thing" (aka gut). Also me voting imp and trusting BB in the same post doesn't make that clear to you?

Kuribo isn't dominating so much. Please don't let me down, I've already covered my wall with posters of your avatar.

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Vijay your analysis of us being different alignments makes no sense. Just saying.

I'd agree with you if the process I used to ascertain your alignments was the conventional post analysis method. I just feel this is the case. However TML reaching is a good enough result from it atm. I'll reread you both to see if I can explain why this is the case later on.

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I don't even know what you're on about. If it makes you feel better, I'll say I think BB is town and that you're scum from gut.

[vijay2vasandani]

... I don't get the issue. I'm going to leave it for now.

[vijay2vasandani]

I don't even know what you're on about. If it makes you feel better, I'll say I think BB is town and that you're scum from gut.

Appeasing crowd to seem inno.

Derp derp scum VOTE: Vijay

Lol.

Llamarble, why is TML town?

[vijay2vasandani]

BBmolla is town.

TRUST BBMOLLA

Fate is scum.
Vijay is town.
Darox appears to be his usual self and probably town.
Elmo is probably scum.
HC is quite sketchy.
Implosion is fairly sketchy. BTW if two players are independently very scummy but also very unlikely to be scum together a 'one of these is scum argument' can be legit. Or if they just CC each other obv.
Kanye seems kinda town which is good because I had too many scumz.
MattP seems pretty obvtown.

TRUST MATTP

Spyrex is sketchy.
TML looks pretty town.

Well that's round 1.

Good enough for tonight.

What does that last bit mean to you Matt? The only issue I had with it at a cursory read is the lack of reasoning. However he promised content tomorrow, so I'm not going to repeat what other people just said. Problem?

[vijay2vasandani]

Because I think TML is scum and I want him lynched now? If Llamarble thinks he's town I'm not going to get his vote? What exactly did you think I was doing?

[vijay2vasandani]

Um okay. Lol. XD also, you disagreed with Llamarble's TML read. You voting for him?

[vijay2vasandani]

I like Darox. I'm surprised kuribo hasn't bitten a head off yet.

Also your variations on my name are hilarious.

Anyway, important question Darox. TML has the most support among your scumreads. Why vote MattP?

[vijay2vasandani]

^ so you aren't trying, not fitting in, but the player list doesn't make you nervous?

Trust: Kuribo

[vijay2vasandani]

^ so vote TML (and get Darox to do it as well).

[vijay2vasandani]

^ classy. So are we lynching TML or what? We can get Llamarble tomorrow.

[vijay2vasandani]

Okay, let's make a deal. We lynch TML, and then we worry about the tomorrow.

[vijay2vasandani]

Lol what happened BB? We used to be able to read each other with *some* degree of accuracy. Anyway could you explain what you meant with that comment? I enjoy lynching scum, yeah that's true. I don't see the issue.

[vijay2vasandani]

You hurt me.

Anyway, since you're here, is TML town or scum?

[vijay2vasandani]

@ GreyICE: you have me voting both TML and Implosion. I changed my vote a while back. Thanks.

Well you try running a vote count on a screen the size of a postage stamp and see how you like it. Off to the beach to forget about y'all now~

[vijay2vasandani]

^ good idea.

TML-Implosion-Llamarble/MattP

That's where I'm putting my money.

[vijay2vasandani]

Really cheeky in a scummy way? XD that's new.

But you sadden me. You're scum in this game, so I have to lynch you VM

[vijay2vasandani]

Um no. You're scum because you're TML.

[vijay2vasandani]

Should I claim now? I'm just a normal Revolutionary but I've got a resource. I was planning on using it tonight because it says I probably don't wanna keep it for too long, but if I'm going to be lynched let me use it first. It carries over into the next phase (ie if used during the Day it goes to Night etc).

[vijay2vasandani]

Ah, got it.
And the mission size doesn't change from 6, so if there are any scum left when 6 players remain we lose.
Yeah, that does make sense with no nightkill.

And 390 is a little sketchy because "I'm going to pretend I don't know there's no scum NK" is one of a relatively small number of possible explanations for it.

From what I read, this game is kinda like Resistance. We send people hoping to get an all town mission. If successful, we get resources which are x-shot powers. If we fail (ie send scum) they get resources. However, following on from the Resistance theme, scum may pretend to be town (ie let the mission succeed) so people think they're town.

I don't think we lose if we have six people with scum in it, but we may be giving scum resources every night from then on.

[vijay2vasandani]

Oh right, I forgot about that. I don't think you're allowed to copy that out though.

[vijay2vasandani]

*sigh* *embarrassed*

[vijay2vasandani]

There is a God.

By the way, who wants to be mafia-neutered tomorrow?

[vijay2vasandani]

And I'm pretty sure I had my vote on TML/VM.

Oh well.

VOTE: Voidedmafia

[vijay2vasandani]

I can't tell whether I love or hate Fate.

[vijay2vasandani]

Double post. Obv effort. Seriously though, what the hell? I'm confused.

[vijay2vasandani]

... Not feeling it.

[vijay2vasandani]

Okay imp can get neutered

[vijay2vasandani]

Am I dumb for just realizing this is a combination of Mafia and The Resistance?

Also, no nightkill is hm

No. I think I said this before.

Implosion explain please.

[vijay2vasandani]

Okay implosion might be scum. I need to clarify something first but idk if I'll get an answer.

[vijay2vasandani]

Okay, maybe not. It's 50-50 still. And I don't think it's just missions, everything shouldn't work. Furthermore, I have information that "factional abilities" do exist. Does that mean scum can nightkill?

[vijay2vasandani]

I suggest keeping the same people. I'd rather not give scum resources which are fairly potent from my experience. I know there are factional abilities because the resource I used on implosion last night says it doesn't work on them.

[vijay2vasandani]

Yes. Yes. It's what I meant by 467.

[vijay2vasandani]

Also, imp your vote probably won't work. That's sort of what I got from it.

[vijay2vasandani]

Hey guys, sorry but

I will be LA for a week. I can still post, around once a day, but not as much as I normally do. Ran out of internet bandwidth XD

[vijay2vasandani]

I can agree with the HC vote. But I still feel VM. Give me time to think about it. Interesting how imp can still vote. What does any actions will fail mean to you guys?

[vijay2vasandani]

Well it says any actions will fail, so interpreted that as imp becoming a tree stump.

[vijay2vasandani]

VOTE: VM

How does MattP's comment clear BB by the way?

[vijay2vasandani]

and dont forget, if you unvote we can't lynch anymore. Also, I'm 50-50 if more than one person can get supplies. That will be all.

Trust: BBMolla
Kuribo
Spyres

Untrust all
Trust Kuribo
Trust BBmolla

Still dislike BB for not doing much, but Post 563 makes sense.

My last comment was to you regarding this post VM

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oh, and I was told that there may be consequences if I dilly-dallied about using it.

This makes me believe the claim more.

Will post more tonight.

[vijay2vasandani]

@ marble: no idea what my item does. all i know is that i can use it during the day where all actions of my target will fail for that phase and the subsequent night, or use it at night where all actions of my target will fail for that phase and the subsequent day. I dont know what it actually does. I assumed RB initially but the wording made me suspect something else.

[vijay2vasandani]

I mean does it follow the "got N1" "use D2" hulalababloo

I got it at the start of the day and I can use it any time day or night. just that there may be unpleasantness if I don't use it in a timely fashion

(i reckon this means it expires)

my item said this as well.

so are we lynching HC or not? if not, let's lynch VM please.

[vijay2vasandani]

Fate is 50-50 for me atm. You on the other hand are more than that.

[vijay2vasandani]

Seriously, I feel like I missed a page or something. What the fuck is happening?

[vijay2vasandani]

So why are we not lynching Voided again?

[vijay2vasandani]

Mmm. Sorry bub. What can I do, you're scum this game sadly

I don't see what the holdup is tbqh. Like what are we waiting for?

[vijay2vasandani]

^ hmm that sort of makes sense actually. Except for the fact that I'm lynching you because of TML not because of your play. So yes, if you played the slot initially I'd have you as null, but TML was scummy so that makes your slot's overall read scummy. Hence all the "sorry but you're scum here despite all your work etc etc"

And I'd rather sheep kuribo for some reason.

[vijay2vasandani]

Yes I read Vijay's iso. HE NEVER ACTUALLY CALLED IMPLOSION SCUM. He called them different alignments yes (and then switched his mind) Notice how he has yet to give even an inkling of reasoning for saying ANY of this.

Spyrex, I asked for reasons why implosion was scum because my vote was an rvs vote and I didn't have a scumread on anyone. Or else I would have changed my vote.

I'm still not seeing how not having any scumreads on page fucking 4 is scummy.

Um. BBMolla and Implosion have different alignments. BBMolla is 60% likely to be town. How did I NOT call implosion scum. And I didn't change my mind. Furthermore, I'm sure as hell I said it was "a feel thing" (aka gut). Also me voting imp and trusting BB in the same post doesn't make that clear to you?

Kuribo isn't dominating so much. Please don't let me down, I've already covered my wall with posters of your avatar.

this was TML's post (and my response) that made me suspicious of him. His attempt to make a case out of nothing seems like opportunistic scum reaching for a case to push a mislynch. This was early on, and he hasn't done anything to alleviate it, and you're null so the overall slot is scummy.

[vijay2vasandani]

And then what, lurk moar?

I'd say

fuck that shit

, but I know

that would do shit

<_</

I see what you did there.

[vijay2vasandani]

Why am I scum? Why wouldn't I sabotage?

you're joking right? please be joking. please.

anywayyyyyy, VM vote is so good. Give it a try fellas.

[vijay2vasandani]

Eh. Two days. Intent to hammer in 24 hours.

[vijay2vasandani]

Don't you dare fucking hammer Kanye if youre in my bloc

Well, I would have hammered at deadline, bloc or not.

But now that we have an extension I'd like you all to turn your heads to VM scum. That is all.

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Oh hai CES

[vijay2vasandani]

Mmmm *frustration* come on CES. Let's lynch VM first.

Also, VM how can you confidently say that my statement that you haven't changed my read on that slot is bullshit?

[vijay2vasandani]

*push for VM lynch ladi dadi*

In other news, I don't know about the last Fate-Spyrex interaction. I want to believe it's legit, but he's Fate. Still he can be town for now.

[vijay2vasandani]

Just so you guys remember that after all your arguing, we can lynch scum right here.

[vijay2vasandani]

Yes man. Obviously me. which is why I'm voting you.

And I have updated the read. It just stayed the same.

[vijay2vasandani]

Hey gaiz. If we can't come to a decision, how about we vote VM? Llama, you've said Fate today, VM tomorrow (that was you right?). If this is the case, why not VM now?

[vijay2vasandani]

Funniest part is how you apologise for your post. But anyway here's my attempt at emulating kuribo. With a little bit of help from my good mate Bacardi.

Nope, can't do it. *sigh*

Anyway, what the fuck is your problem with all this wagon derailing shit? Don't we want to be as accurate as we can? Now you just sound like scum annoyed your mislynches get *so* close.

And in regards to your dick up my ass, what can I say? I've had a crush on you since forever. That's why it's hard.

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sorry Llamarble.

CES, if you want to lynch VM tomorrow and Fate today why not flip it around? That way, VM CAN STOP FUCKING RANTING ABOUT FUCKING BANDWAGONS GETTING DERAILED (amidoingthisrite?)

[vijay2vasandani]

I've just been mindfucked. I don't know who to trust anymore. As a sidenote, I got stuff as well so idk.

Is Fate scum or not? Why the hell would he go "LOLOLOL I'M SCUM BITCHES, YOU FAIL LYNCHED VM" as town?

[vijay2vasandani]

I've just been mindfucked. I don't know who to trust anymore. As a sidenote, I got stuff as well so idk.

Is Fate scum or not? Why the hell would he go "LOLOLOL I'M SCUM BITCHES, YOU FAIL LYNCHED VM" as town?

why would he do it as scum?

same answer for both: he'd do it regardless of alignment. i've seen it many times, but more importantly SPYREX AND MARBLE HAVE DEFINITELY SEEN IT MANY FUCKING TIMES

well that's probably the better question. Why would he do it at all?

... I want to vote Fate, but idk if it's just because I find that "scumclaim" annoying. His explanation makes *some* sense. Will think about it.

[vijay2vasandani]

I've just been mindfucked. I don't know who to trust anymore. As a sidenote, I got stuff as well so idk.

Is Fate scum or not? Why the hell would he go "LOLOLOL I'M SCUM BITCHES, YOU FAIL LYNCHED VM" as town?

why would he do it as scum?

same answer for both: he'd do it regardless of alignment. i've seen it many times, but more importantly SPYREX AND MARBLE HAVE DEFINITELY SEEN IT MANY FUCKING TIMES

well that's probably the better question. Why would he do it at all?

... I want to vote Fate, but idk if it's just because I find that "scumclaim" annoying. His explanation makes *some* sense. Will think about it.

[vijay2vasandani]

So why no self hammer? If you've given up.

[vijay2vasandani]

Trust:
Darox
Vijay
Vijay

[vijay2vasandani]

I keep getting resources but seem kinda useless.. anyway, who are we lynching? This is basically a prod dodge.

[vijay2vasandani]

Well thanks for that, but I meant the resources are useless. Moving forward, I'll lynch Kanye or BB. Not so sure about Spyrex, CES or imp.

[vijay2vasandani]

Um okay. Will vote Spyrex after a VC.

[vijay2vasandani]

Trust:
Vijay
Vijay
Vijay

VOTE: Spyrex

I'm done here.

[vijay2vasandani]

^ you have a tail? O.o

[vijay2vasandani]

I'm a revolutionary too. I used WhiteICE on Kuribo last night, which means he won't be affected by any other software for one day and night phase and the Connection Failure on Implosion night one which I'm still confused as to what it did.

[vijay2vasandani]

*pokes Vijay & MattP*

This game will get some reading time this evening.
Can we have our claiming done before then?
I promise I'll come to a final decision on who I want to lynch / who I will compromise to lynch / who I refuse to lynch.

I'm a revolutionary too. I used WhiteICE on Kuribo last night, which means he won't be affected by any other software for one day and night phase and the Connection Failure on Implosion night one which I'm still confused as to what it did.

[vijay2vasandani]

Explain what? I may be wrong about using it at night but I thunk I got it during the day and then used it at night.

VOTE: CES

I don't know when I got it?

[vijay2vasandani]

We are going to dieeeeeeee.

[vijay2vasandani]

FUCKING VOTE CES

Explain what? I may be wrong about using it at night but I thunk I got it during the day and then used it at night.

VOTE: CES

I don't know when I got it?

That aside, if this isn't lylo can we lynch MattP tomorrow?

[vijay2vasandani]

Sorry Matt, my bad.

At CES, shows how in it I am.

[vijay2vasandani]

I compromised Implosion that one time. I'm confused now.

VOTE: Kanye

[vijay2vasandani]

Is that at me? English please.

[vijay2vasandani]

Turtle. Proceed.

[vijay2vasandani]

The kanye vote or the implosion comment?

[vijay2vasandani]

Um Night one I think it was, I used an item on implosion that said he would be compromised. I've said this several times before. It's just that somebody said whoever compromised imp is scum.

[vijay2vasandani]

2. So if I use it at night it works night and the next day.

And I'll put that one on hold for now.

[vijay2vasandani]

I've got it. Kanye, CES and a coin flip between Kuribo and Llama.

Oh wait Darox. Hnnnnnnnnnnnnngggggg.

[vijay2vasandani]

Nope Kanye babe. Sorry.

[vijay2vasandani]

How about you shut the hell up and listen to the guy.

I could do CES.

VOTE: CES

[vijay2vasandani]

I tried to xatch up, and got bored. I think I need a break. But that one page made me happy enought to

VOTE: Darox

[vijay2vasandani]

Oohhh doublevote yay

[vijay2vasandani]

Who did Concision replace again?

[vijay2vasandani]

Oh he can die later as well.

[vijay2vasandani]

So who's scum?

[vijay2vasandani]

Hmmm are you voting?

Also, I'm thinking Concision, kanye and Darox

[vijay2vasandani]

You deserve a medal.

[vijay2vasandani]

Ohmigod gaiz. Why you no lynch yet?

[vijay2vasandani]

I'm voting you? and I just think your probs scum at this point in time.

[vijay2vasandani]

yeah, I agree with BB on that one. Idt he would have known that the wincon didn't apply if the restiriction on missions was temporary.

I'm going to vote Concision now.

[vijay2vasandani]

How many to lynch again? Kanye, concision, Darox.

[vijay2vasandani]

Actually no wait. That was an old sheet. Let me check again.

[vijay2vasandani]

VOTE: Concision

[vijay2vasandani]

^ yup. You're still voting the wrong person but.