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Random.org Result: 13
ReaperCharlie wrote:
D) What reason do we have to believe you that my WA™ 3000's broken?
ChannelDelibird wrote:You may have been here longer than Ythan but you clearly haven't read much ReaperCharlie. That post looks fairly typical of him to me. (Not intended as a slight, RC.)
ReaperCharlie wrote:MarchHare. Alliance w/me in this game? Yes/No.
MoS is also invited. mikeburnfire and Thor are not.
Ant_to_the_max wrote:
Mastermind of Sin: Null
#93 Almost 100 pages in and has to get his "random" vote in.
In quotes because I believe he is keeping his cards close.
I guess we are not worth his time
Energetic Penguin wrote:but but, MOS isnt even trying. March Hare is looking for scum. How's march scummier?
I'm really not liking MoS and MBF excusing their inactivity, by saying there's too much fluff. My current guess for the scumteam is them + dana.
Energetic Penguin wrote:Mastermind, you're wrong. The RVS is where people generally prod one another and a random wagon comes up. then we may get some reads and some serious discussion is born out of it. Your vote is actually random whereas during the RVS they may be dumb reasons or mostly nonexistant but only semi random. If you let us know its random it diminishes its point even further. Given you did this after people had said noteworthy things is quite scummy. You have also so far managed to post no game related content. Why do you not want to comment on anything that's happened?
@Dana: MoS is definitely an active lurker. Any reason you're not concerned with him?
Energetic Penguin wrote:but even after your random vote you have nothing relevant to say. This is pretty close,
Mastermind of Sin wrote:mikeburnfire wrote:Perhaps if you guys didn't spam up the topic so much, it would be worth MoS's time.
This.
Ant_to_the_max wrote:
Mastermind of Sin wrote:Energetic Penguin wrote:but but, MOS isnt even trying. March Hare is looking for scum. How's march scummier?
I'm really not liking MoS and MBF excusing their inactivity, by saying there's too much fluff. My current guess for the scumteam is them + dana.
I didn't say anything about fluff...
*goes to get a quote but EP totally was on the ball*
Energetic Penguin wrote:but even after your random vote you have nothing relevant to say. This is pretty close,
Mastermind of Sin wrote:mikeburnfire wrote:Perhaps if you guys didn't spam up the topic so much, it would be worth MoS's time.
This.
Mastermind of Sin wrote:In other news, you kids need to chill out. I go to sleep, and I wake up with a prod from the mod. What's up with that? Can't a guy take a nap without getting prodded these days? I wasn't gone for *that* long...
Thor665 wrote:@MoS;
MikeyBurningfire - Perhaps if you guys didn't spam up the topic so much, it would be worth MoS's time.
MoS - This
Energetic Penguin - I don't like how MoS uses the fluff in the thread to excuse his lack of participation.
MoS - I didn't say anything about fluff.
Ant - quotes above exchange.
MoS - ::insert weak as hell exchange wherein he basically says there's a difference between spam and fluff.
Let's break it down, even if there's a difference between spam and fluff (and I'll accept there is) What you're now claiming is that there's a lot of *content* and it's making it hard for you to comment - which makes you look worse. Not better.
So comment on the content, and make me happy, or admit it's fluff and respond to EP's accusation.
Or keep ducking and weaving, I suppose.
Thor665 wrote:@MoS - How do you define active lurk, do you feel it is scummy, and how do you feel your play differs from active lurk (if at all)?
ReaperCharlie wrote:ChannelDelibird wrote:I'm against the alliance pretty much just because.
This is the attitude that kills towns. That's like saying you're against Mass-claim. Did you even read my post?
Thor665 wrote:Mastermind of Sin wrote:As for my play, I'm going to turn that question back on you, as I feel your answer will reveal a lot about your alignment. Do you feel I have been active lurking?
I feel your scumhunting has been exceedingly limited and laid back. I'm attempting to discern if it's because;
a) You're scum hoping not to offend and be obligated to take stances.
b) Town who suxx0rs.
I do find the lack of participation and active scumhunting to be anti-town, and find that paired with backhanded dismissal of people for being 'too active' to be scummy.
Magua wrote:
PerigrineV - Slight scumread. I felt a general overall lack of content in his posts, but scummier than that is his townread on Energetic (#328 was just after EP voted dana; in this post, Perigrine doesn't fully agree with RC's case on dana, but thinks EP is reasonable; there's some cognitive dissonance going on there)
Energetic Penguin - Scumread. Largely nonexistant. Largely pointless posts. This'd be a different read on a newbie, but not on someone who's been here for 18 months.
Magua wrote:Now, your turn. Why are you defending Peregrine when (previous to #410) he was who your vote was on?
Mastermind of Sin wrote:
Liking my vote where it is for pressure, but less sure about it since it was originally predicated on the actions of someone who just got replaced for the very reason I voted them. :/ Still, I want to see how Magua reacts to this line of questioning.
1. If you say your vote is for pressure, there'll be no pressure.
2. A single vote is no pressure.
3. Pressure votes the day before deadline are dumb and scummy.
Mastermate wrote:Not only is your vote OMGUS (in defense of your own wagon, and your reasons are stated as such), but your play also differs for two reasons:
1) You haven't been spending your whole game defending another player (ie MarchHare) whose play hasn't been particularly obvtownie
2) I sense a kindred spirit in you this game, in that neither of us feel particularly compelled to play differently than what is comfortable for us just because people tell us to do otherwise. I appreciate that you do not feel the need to apologize for your style of play. This situation does not exist for Ragnarokio. Not saying that he's doing the opposite, but whereas this point is a slight town tell for you, the lack of such is a null tell for him.
danakillsu wrote:mikeburnfire wrote:We don't need an extension. At this rate, the person I'm voting will be lynched, and I'm okay with that.
LOOK AT THIS! HE ONCE AGAIN REFUSES TO DEAL WITH ANY REAL ISSUES AND REPEATS THAT HE WANTS ME LYNCHED! DON'T LET THIS SCUM GET AWAY WITH THIS! My vote won't be on a single-vote wagon if you people would wake up and vote mbf.
mikeburnfire wrote:I don't need you to defend me, MoS. Dana is only making himself look worse by focusing on one non-issue. I haven't acknowledged him because I already addressed Thor.
danakillsu wrote:If people ignore the obvious and refuse to vote mbf, then I will be voting Energetic Penguin, who is a null read for me. He's not incredibly pro-town, so he's not a BAD mislynch if he is one.
ChannelDelibird wrote:How is saying that if his top suspect doesn't have enough votes before the deadline that he'll switch to someone he's not sure on in order to ensure town gets a lynch a bad thing?
Like, seriously. Town needs lynches. There's obviously not much of a consensus. It's entirely reasonable of dana to say that.
Energetic Penguin wrote:
Mastermind of Sin wrote:That's a safe bet, RC.
In other news, I just looked at the player list and was surprised to see someone I did not even realize was playing this game. Then I went back and looked at his posts, and I saw my definition of active lurking.
Unvote, Vote: animorpherv1
Stop pretending to contribute!
Nice Hypocrisy scum.
Ant_to_the_max wrote:Mastermind of Sin wrote:
I find it suspicious that dana only has one suspect in this entire game.
Yeah, that is not true at all
- Ragnarokio - weak fluff argument but still.
- MarchHare - tried to build a case
- PeregrineV - more stuffz
- mikeburnfire - oh hey! look, we finally got here
And he has also rubbed up against others like RC, so I really feel like this is trying to set dana up here.
Not MoS wrote:I find it suspicious that dana has only had one suspect in this entire game.
Mastermind of Sin wrote:I find it suspicious that dana only has one suspect in this entire game.
MarchHare's Last Post wrote:Fucking Christ, I have no motivation these days.
Will post tomorrow.
mikeburnfire wrote:MoS, why is that good-posting from Magua? Do you agree that what ooba said is scummy? If so, whay are you still voting dana.
Magua wrote:Ragnarokio wrote:I wanted to see how ant and others would react if I attacked ant without putting a vote behind it. I at least thought it had a higher potential to yield useful information than a direct vote would have been. If Ant was scum, a wagon on him probably wouldn't have been successful at that point in the game, so it wasn't worth trying to lynch him anyway. My vote was on thor because I hadn't removed it from the previous bandwagon.
Wait...what?
No.
That makes no sense.
Magua wrote:Ragnarokio wrote:@Magua: Alright.
So...you agree with me? That it makes no sense?
Does this bother you at all?
...
Expanding now on the "confusion" bit:
Townie Thought Process: I think ReaperCharlie is scum. He's scum scum scum. Oh, he died and flipped town. Guess I was wrong. I need to reevaluate stuff.
At no point is the town "confused" about what's going on. What's going on is simple. I thought EP was scum. He flipped town. That didn't confuse me. It made me sad, but it didn't confuse me.
The scum thought process is different. Scum going after RC know that RC's not really scum. They shoot him, he flips town, they're not really surprised. But they want to fake a townie reaction. They have this idea that the townie reaction is to be consistent, still believing that RC is scum even with the mod flip. So out comes "confusion".
This is bollocks.
ooba wrote:
- Ant goes into town list because I don't see scum doing a stupid hammer like that ..
PeregrineV wrote:Ant_to_the_max wrote:
ReaperCharlie wrote:Also, once dana flips we get that much more info out of him than if he were left alive. Conversely, if EP flips, we get next to nothing, and scummy-dana is still alive, whether or not he's actually SCUM (which I believe he is). Consider that in your calculations of who to lynch, ooba.
You have a point, but I see things from the opposite. If he flips town, I think MoS and ooba should be looked into tomorrow. I know it is probably to late for wagons on them and out of dana and EP I will vote dana. Honestly I get the same feel from EP as I did last game.
Looking into the ReaperCharlie NK. First suspect would be MoS, since RC was voting him, but that seems like a frame job. So, looking into it more, would like Ant to elaborate on this statement about further examination of MoS and ooba today, becuase it hasn't happened yet.
PeregrineV wrote:Mastermind of Sin wrote:PeregrineV wrote:Ant_to_the_max wrote:
ReaperCharlie wrote:Also, once dana flips we get that much more info out of him than if he were left alive. Conversely, if EP flips,we get next to nothing, and scummy-dana is still alive, whether or not he's actually SCUM (which I believe he is). Consider that in your calculations of who to lynch, ooba.
You have a point, but I see things from the opposite. Ifhe flips town, I think MoS and ooba should be looked into tomorrow. I know it is probably to late for wagons on them and out of dana and EP I will vote dana. Honestly I get the same feel from EP as I did last game.
Looking into the ReaperCharlie NK. First suspect would be MoS, since RC was voting him, but that seems like a frame job. So, looking into it more, would like Ant to elaborate on this statement about further examination of MoS and ooba today, becuase it hasn't happened yet.
...what? How can Ant examine me and ooba based on dana flipping town when dana is still alive?
I read it as he was talking about EP (who flipped town) (bolded above).
Thor665 wrote:Gah, fine MBF. SHe's still useless though
Unvote: Ragnarokio
Vote: Danakillsu
Empking wrote:PerigrineV:
Town
Magua
Channeldelibird
Ant_to_the_max
Thor665
Scum
Ragnarokio
Mastermind of Sin*
danakillsu
mikeburnfire wrote:
Big whoop. He's also voted Rag and MoS, so we obviously don't share opinions. Quite frankly, I haven't seen anything useful from that slot all game, even before the replacement.
danakillsu wrote:Thor665 wrote:I agree with Magua that the game was stagnating, I'd even said as much myself prior to his vote switchup.
Dana didn't even comment upon my blatant and awkward vote switch to him - I'm happy with that vote now.
So I'm not frantic to get someone's vote off me, and that makes me scum? You should know that it's my policy not to try to defend against a case that isn't there. I know you're a better player than this. Right now, you're just trying to make crap stick to me.
Thor665 wrote:Maybe your expectation of me is too high?
It wasn't that you weren't frantic, it's that you didn't diss me at all. Do you have evidence of your self meta about this policy of "not to try[ing] to defend against a case that isn't there". If I was supposed to be aware of it I must have lost the memo, because I wasn't aware of it.
Magua wrote:Of the three leading wagons (Peregrine, Thor, danakillsu), which would you switch to to avoid a NL?
Magua wrote:Mastermind of Sin wrote:
Liking my vote where it is for pressure, but less sure about it since it was originally predicated on the actions of someone who just got replaced for the very reason I voted them. :/ Still, I want to see how Magua reacts to this line of questioning.
1. If you say your vote is for pressure, there'll be no pressure.
2. A single vote is no pressure.
3. Pressure votes the day before deadline are dumb and scummy.
Magua wrote:Thor665 wrote:I'm not really feeling that Ant wagon, Magua - sorry. I actually support his desire to kill the non-posters
For that matter, there's no Ant wagon at this point either. You say you support MBF's desire to kill non-posters. How about Energetic Penguin instead of ATTM then? I'm fine with that.
Magua, same quote continued wrote:Anyways:
Unofficial vote count
Thor665 (3): mikeburnfire, Ragnarokio, ooba
danakillsu (2): Energetic Penguin, PerigrineV
PerigrineV (2): ChannelDelibird, danakillsu
Ragnarokio (2): Mastermind of Sin, Thor665
Mastermind of Sin (1): Ant_to_the_max
ReaperCharlie (1): MarchHare
Ant_to_the_max (1): Magua
mikeburnfire (1): ReaperCharlie
Selected call outs:
Thor. Your vote on Ragnarokio sucks and smacks *highly* of OMGUS. Don't ruin my townread on you like this.
ReaperCharlie. Your vote on MBF sucks as MBF is town. Please rectify.
MarchHare: Your vote on ReaperCharlie sucks and is doing nothing because RC is not going to get lynched. Please rectify.
mikeburnfire: Your vote on Thor sucks. However, please keep it there for the time so that Thor will be motivated to pick a better alternative wagon. Thanks in advance.
Magua wrote:Thor, goddamit. I wish to make babies with you. But Ragnarokio is still a terrible lynch.
UNVOTE: Ant_to_the_max
VOTE: Energetic Penguin
Join me, Thorand we can rule this galaxy as father and son.
Magua wrote:I'm not jumping on the Thor or MBF wagon. I'll jump on dana to avoid NL, but we need to decide a lynch *today* so that we can get a claim and behave rationally, not be like "loldeadlinevoteoopslynchedthedoc".
Obv, Energetic Penguin is the best lynch.
Thor665 wrote:Mastermind of Sin wrote:Thor665 wrote:Gah, fine MBF. SHe's still useless though
Unvote: Ragnarokio
Vote: Danakillsu
o.O what?
What?
Seriously - you're confused, but you don't clarify the confusion which makes me wonder if you're acting confused just so you can quote something and act like what I'm doing is bad/scummy or if you actually have a question about my actions. Considering I'm even responding to a request made by me, maybe you should go read that and then see if my post still makes no sense.
Or just derpy, derp along and see if that helps, yeah?
Mastermind of Sin wrote:Huh? So people are supposed to talk shit about everyone who votes them? When did this become protown play?
If you're town and someone votes you on Day 2 without saying why, you consider it protown to not ask about said vote?
Add that to the voting block PeregrineV pointed out earlier, and I'm really liking the Thor-dana connection a LOT.
So you're seriously advocating that three scum are voting in a block on multiple votes on Day 1? How often do you see that happen in a mini?
danakillsu wrote:MoS wrote:So, first you were so unconcerned about his vote that you didn't say anything about it, but now that he's pegging you for that, you lash out and make it personal? Sounds like frustrated scum to me.
No... I don't see what I did as lashing out or making it particularly personal, although I wouldn't have necessarily said that to a VI. The reason for the change in behavior is obviously that he actually seemed to think that he had a case on me once I said nothing.
mikeburnfire wrote:That is an interesting case, MoS, but I think the connection between Magua and Thor is actually more akin to buddying-up than scum-advising.
Of the four people at 2 votes right now, I wouldn't mind lynching either Dana (for the way we avoided his lynch yesterday), Magua (because of his erratic and, as MoS points out, hypocratic behavior), or Empking (for not contributing, and MarchHare's uselessness). As it stands, I'll remain on Empking for now until I see something worthwhile out of him.