Rhinox wrote:vote nachomamma
he knows why
Absolute chaos descends around you.
And you post this.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Rhinox wrote:vote nachomamma
he knows why
If this post contained more waffles Seraphim could open a diner. Not liking him.Seraphim wrote:I'm just going to ignore Kdub unless he comes up with some legitimate points.
I actually feel somewhat more comfortable with my vote now however.
Hmmmmmmmm.Nachomamma8 wrote:This is what I was referring to. She brings up the concept of bounties, and then immediately says that there's no reason to talk about them now.Vi wrote:Bounties - Right now I don't think there's any reason to deal with it, but later on it might be worth bringing up
YouSeraphim wrote:@GreyICE: how the fuck is that post waffling?
Nice clear posting:Jahudo wrote:I'm not seeing it. What about your other waffler claims?GreyICE wrote:YouSeraphim wrote:@GreyICE: how the fuck is that post waffling?actuallyfeelsomewhatmore comfortable with your votehowever?
Put an extra qualifier or two in there, I'm not sure it has enough conviction behind it.
I operate on gut reads and change my mind a lot?ToastyToast wrote:You sure change your mind quite a lot for someone with substantial gut-reads. A vote on Rhinox, my "scum-slip," and now suspicion on Jahudo? Are you picking people who don't have a lot of votes on them for a reason?GreyICE wrote: Nice clear posting:
I feel comfortable with my vote. What you did = someone not all that comfortable with what they're saying. Deciding to take my comment as a serious accusation rather than an offhand comment about the sentence. Overdefensive. Jahudo = good wagon. So is Toasty.
I'm backpeddling? It was an offhand comment. Your post was scummy.Seraphim wrote:toIf this post contained more waffles Seraphim could open a diner. Not liking him.
You use waffling as if it's scummy. Therefore, calling my statement waffling means that you believe my actions are scummy. All of a sudden, the comment becomes an "offhand statement". You're backpedalling, backtracking, what the fuck ever. I think it's backpedalling.Deciding to take my comment as a serious accusation rather than an offhand comment about the sentence?
Logic has no place in a game of Mafia.
Blah! He put like 18 qualifiers on it. It's a sign that you're distancing yourself from your own damn position. "Well perhaps he mighta sorta maybe I feel better however kinda."Jahudo wrote:I still don't get how his post was waffling or scummy. :/
Scumtells are fine things, for pointing your suspicion. Scummy behavior is what reinforces it.Seraphim wrote:Personal record obviously, fairly sure that other people have gotten lynched quicker.
Also, GreyICE, what about Toast, man? I'm sure you had like eighteen scumtells on him maaaaaan.
Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Vote: Seraphim
Claim?
Right now? Not getting a great feeling, but then again, I'm not getting a great feeling from you either. Too many good players in this game for me to start nailing scum hyper-quickly. His recent posts are much better, and Seraphim seems determined to investigate until he finds out that he's not the scum he's looking for.Vi wrote:LainICE - Thoughts on Toasty?
I got two posters mixed up. It's why you don't post late at night.Kdub wrote:GreyICE, just to clarify, what was going on in post 105? You were calling Jahudo scummy for being defensive (over a post made by Seraphim?), but later put him on your town list. I initially thought you might have gotten Jahudo and Seraphim mixed up, but the discussion surrounding that post went on for longer than I expected without any comment from you correcting yourself.
Good point. I know LLD enough to know that's pretty much her style, so it doesn't peg me as scummy. It's just... bad.Vi wrote:I've been here, tyvm.GreyICE 232 wrote:Good to see you joining the game.
I'm the one who made that argument the first time; see previous quote response. <_<GreyICE 232 wrote:[CES']lurking is too suspicious, IMHO, to be scummy - which seems like an oxymoron, but he's so obviously pushing agendas that he's either REALLY BAD scum or town who is doing something cute.
That's not to say I can't get him to post what I'd like to read on his own terms.
Rhinox vote - Not so. The world didn't start collapsing until after Rhinox made his first vote.
Bandwagoning Hoes on Bandwagoning Ho - I've already given my opinions. She looked like she was trying way too hard from the beginning through her CES vote, except for post 39 which I didn't think would likely come from scum. I was initially frustrated with her vote+claim request, but after reading into why she did it the only things that bother me about it are things that don't matter (i.e. the validity of some of her arguments vs. Seraphim).
Question: If LLD hasn't done one scummy thing, why the earlier?
You mean, I have one person as scum, one person as scummy, and 4 nulls.Rhinox wrote:GREYICE LOOK HERE NAO!Grey just curious how you came up with that thar scumlist, particularlyjahudo as town after earlier you called him a good wagon, and UT showing up as town, where as earlier he was null. For that matter, you voted me, and now I'm town. And only 1 scum and 1 scummy. You think the rest of the scum are in the lurker list?
I don't feel my question was answered. Certainly not a high-caliber answer. The next few posts were all setup speculation, and then suddenly Vi is fencesitting and insisting that she's answered questions. I am not happy, oh no I am not.So... You're guaranteeing that you're not the same alignment as UK, but merely implying that UK is scum...?
3) What is your opinion on the wagon and the Seraphim counterwagon?
3) I haven't answered this question, which I pointed out.
Well given you're focusing about TEN TIMES the attention on LLD as you are on Seraphim, I'd have said you gave fucking good indication you did.4) I don't think LLD is scum and Seraphim is Town,nor have I given any indication that I do.
If you mean meta, meh, I read it. Don't care for meta overly much.UncertainKitten wrote:@GI: Vi's alignment can't be determined yet. Don't tell me you've gotten lazy and not done your research.
Sorry I didn't tell you sooner, but it was amusing to watch.
You should EASILY be able to figure out why I'm saying this.
Oh I agree completely, if for no other reason than the game changes if my LLD and/or Seraphim read is wrong. And I hate lynching really interesting people early in the gameUncertainKitten wrote:@GI: I don't care for meta myself. But in this case it kinda applies. Save your case for D2. I sympathize with Vi on this issue. I was basically in your shoes last game I played with her, so.
*shrug*ToastyToast wrote:Anyone else notice how GreyICE has backed off on both attacks and defending? Get in here, man!
I'm metaing a corpse out of his useless ass.Lady Lambdadelta wrote:GreyICE wrote:How is he town? HOW?!?
According to Vi and UK, it's a "meta" thing for him.
I've opened a whole mental file folder for certain things I'm noticing this game... and for a certain hypothesis I want to check on later.
Unorthodox is one thing. Poor is another. I can tell the difference.Vi wrote:You'd be surprised what you can get out of reactions to unorthodox playstyles, especially when done by obviously experienced players.~GreyICE wrote:The reactions to CES are priceless? What? He's posted a grand total of blah in the thread. If I had a dayvig I'd have no problem dropping his ass.
Bad players and scum, for instance, would move to policy lynch them. I don't think I have to go further.
Cogito Ergo Sum wrote:Unvote, vote: Seraphim
Cogito Ergo Sum wrote:Bandwagonning ho!Ladyµß wrote:Explain your reasons behind your votes on Toasty and Seraphim.
P.S. Claims of my Jackishness have been greatly exaggerated.
Cogito Ergo Sum wrote:Hint: the meaning of one of the quotes you posted is heavily dependent on context.Seraphim wrote:CES, you might have to point out what I missed to me, because GreyICE says I'm stupid.
Unvote, vote: Ladyµß
Town, null-town, town.Seraphim wrote:Scumteam is GreyICE, Toasty, and Jahudo. Remember that I called this now.
Lessee, one gave the town information and drew reactions from people who were bothering to read what he wrote and those who were ignoring it or looking to jump on something scummy.Seraphim wrote:Why is it fucking horrible?
BTW, if I'm scum, who I am scum with? Think carefully before you answer.
You've literally ceased to interest. Run up the pirate flag and claim scum in the thread, it's the only fucking way you could beSeraphim wrote:You'd think I'd be a bit more subtle about the whole "why not this guy tell" thing if I was scum, especially after doing it the first time.
Grey:
You attacked Toast, then switched to me as soon as you could.
You've been attacking me, but have almost entirely switched your focus to Vi, while keeping your vote on the viable wagon, me.
Now I'm attacking you again and we're(Vi and I) scumbuddies.
Um, wow. Talk about lying like a rug.ToastyToast wrote:The thing that bugs me the most about GreyICE is how he passes everything off as "logical" when his posts have little of it. His defense for half his posts is "reason, which you don't have." This constant mention that he's allegedly good at making arguments isn't found in his posts, and he doesn't support his reads with facts. This posting habit makes me think GreyICE is trying to lead town with baseless information. This is a huge contrast to, say, UK, who is leading by asking questions rather than spouting new reads every so often.
Add that to his votes, but more importantly his sudden shifts in attention towards other players. He has only stayed on Seraphim because he realizes there's a chance for a lynch. When he saw that people weren't voting me, he moves to Seraphim. Ignore GreyICE's scum list, and these are the people he's called scum: Seraphim, Me, Jahudo, CES, Antitown, and Rhinox (says he's waffling on this one)
Jahudo's is important because he starts of by calling it a good lynch, then calls him town when Seraphim suspects him. He also places him in his town list. Where did this sudden switch come from? No telling from his posts.
CES and Antitown are easy targets because they've been lurking, but, really, doesn't Katsuki (of Antitown) always lurk? Not to mention the computer problems they mentioned. I've never played with CES, but the other players seem to be used to it. No one else has attacked him.
His focus has been on Seraphim for a majority of the game. This leads me to believe that if GreyICE is scum, Seraphim is town. Or vice-versa, but I'm in favor of a GreyICE lynch before a Seraphim one.
ToastyToast wrote:The thing that bugs me the most about GreyICE is how he passes everything off as "logical" when his posts have little of it. His defense for half his posts is "reason, which you don't have." This constant mention that he's allegedly good at making arguments isn't found in his posts, and he doesn't support his reads with facts. This posting habit makes me think GreyICE is trying to lead town with baseless information. This is a huge contrast to, say, UK, who is leading by asking questions rather than spouting new reads every so often.
Add that to his votes, but more importantly his sudden shifts in attention towards other players. He has only stayed on Seraphim because he realizes there's a chance for a lynch. When he saw that people weren't voting me, he moves to Seraphim. Ignore GreyICE's scum list, and these are the people he's called scum: Seraphim, Me, Jahudo, CES, Antitown, and Rhinox (says he's waffling on this one)
Jahudo's is important because he starts of by calling it a good lynch, then calls him town when Seraphim suspects him. He also places him in his town list. Where did this sudden switch come from? No telling from his posts.
CES and Antitown are easy targets because they've been lurking, but, really, doesn't Katsuki (of Antitown) always lurk? Not to mention the computer problems they mentioned. I've never played with CES, but the other players seem to be used to it. No one else has attacked him.
His focus has been on Seraphim for a majority of the game. This leads me to believe that if GreyICE is scum, Seraphim is town. Or vice-versa, but I'm in favor of a GreyICE lynch before a Seraphim one.
As for the Rhinox vote, I think it described it accurately. He showed up, made an random vote on the first page, yes, but without mentioning a damn thing that was happening (which is to say that there was no RVS), and vanished for pages.Best reason for a vote I saw by that stage.
As for Jahudo, I already said I meant Seraphim, I was fucking tired when I made that post. You didn't even read that. You are misrepping like fucking hells. You have to. You're backed into a corner now, because you made a post that's so fucking scum that I'm surprised that maggots aren't crawling out of it.@Rhinox: When I voted you had one post in the thread. Yeah, my read on you changed. Your content level changed. As for the gut read, go check the thread. I was joking about his HORRIBLE gut read vote.
Ooh, you can take a quote out of context and pretend it shows my opinion.ToastyToast wrote:No I didn't. Those were all direct quotes. Direct quotes are what you said. Therefore, unless I changed the words, it is not a misrep. I took exactly what you said. The only quote you challenged was that of Jahudo, which you claim was a mistake. I don't have to believe such a claim.GreyICE wrote: Toasty did the same only 100x worse because he lied and misrepped me in the thread. He has never attempted to find out my alignment, he just tried to find reasons that I was scum. And you? You did the same thing just now.
Now Seraphim looks better simply because of that Toasty lynch chain. Town does not lynch chain. Toasty saw an opportunity to guarentee two back-to-back town lynches.
That is the scummiest thing I've seen. He is 100% scum.
I'll be back when everyone decides to get their head out of their ass and vote for scum over town. And yes, Rhinox, I'm fucking pissed off. Scum is running the show, and the rest of you are sheeping scum or lurking, except for LLD.
You claim I want to chain lynches. I won't have to because your going to flip scum. I find Seraphim scummy, too. But I'd much rather lynch you over him.
Also, why are you attacking me on this point, when players are suggesting the opposite?
I've seen several instances where one of a pair of players must be scum. Cop claiming guilty result is an obvious one.Kdub wrote:
GreyICE:
Again, why can't "chaining" lynches come from a townie that thinks only one out of a pair of players is likely to be scum? You've never had that opinion about two players in a game? I agree that if both you and Seraphim turn out to be town, then it looks very bad, but it seems like a mistake to assume that up front and conclude that Toasty is scum before you know Seraphim's alignment.
This isn't "If GreyICE is scum I sit down and reevaluate things." This isn't "Well is Seraphim is scum, GreyICE is clearly scum." It's "If GreyICE isn't scum, Seraphim is scum. OR VISA VERSA!" So if one of us gets lynched today (which seemed like a good bet at the time, we were the top two bandwagons) then lynch the other tomorrow!His focus has been on Seraphim for a majority of the game. This leads me to believe that if GreyICE is scum, Seraphim is town. Or vice-versa, but I'm in favor of a GreyICE lynch before a Seraphim one.
Um, when did I give those reads throughout the game? Did you read my reads list where I said Rhinox was town? And explained why he moved when he started posting more content? You are in there? I mean what?Jahudo wrote:@Grey: How is that original vote any different than what he is arguing for Toasty? Right now I don't agree with your case and am more wondering if you could have made it as town or not.
After the vote Grey does go on to find Toasty suspicious for individual tells; arguing Toasty is misrepp'ing Grey's player reads and once again I don't think Toasty is wrong here. Grey had given those reads throughout the game. Just because it wasn't in his latest read list at the time doesn't mean he could easily change his reads, especially with his playstyle where its hard to tell what is changing his mind. One minute somone looks bad scum or bad scum, another they are in the pool of top suspect #3.
So Toasty looks alright. Grey could be scum. I need to consider Grey's possible motivations as hypo-scum for switching from Sera to Toasty. Kdub makes convincing points about Grey not worrying about self-preservation or staying on the largest wagon. Maybe scum would consider the Seraphim wagon stalled or in decline. What is the vote count now?
I just search people's recent topics. It's in their profile when you click their name. For Seraphim:Rhinox wrote:Knowing that I'll probably be hit with a rage nuke...
UK, in the time it took you to type out your schedule, which is completely irrelevant for us to know in the context of the game, you could have read through half a dozen greyICE posts... just sayin'...
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greyICE: earlier you said you tracked down some seraphim games and compared his play there to this game. Can you link me to the games you looked at and maybe even a couple examples of specific posts in those games that made you change your mind about seraphim?
Have you done the same sort of investigation into toasty's play? How about Vi's?
[/quote] I voted for Rhinox when he had one post in the thread. I changed my vote shortly thereafter. Is he right in absolutely everything he posts? No. Is he town? Yeah.Jahudo wrote:GreyICE wrote:Um, when did I give those reads throughout the game? Did you read my reads list where I said Rhinox was town? And explained why he moved when he started posting more content? You are in there? I mean what?
But what changed between Rhinox saying things that rubs the wrong way, to Rhinox town? And when you call CES terrible town or scum are you trying to say he's good vig fodder?
What, you mean the part where I moved my vote, and want to lynch Toasty Toast straight out of this thread? Or the part where I... wait, what? I want toasty dead. Seraphim feels more town to me, but mostly I want toasty scum lynched today. And no way in hell is Seraphim scum with Toasty. I'll sit down and evaluate tomorrow after flips, but my vote is sitting just where I want it to be right now. If you're asking me to take blind shots in a vacuum, then Toasty will flip scum, and Vi looks like the most likely #2.Jahudo wrote:Ok, is this a new opinion? I didn't see you talk about this before this post.
What? I have vague reasons why I think Vi is scummier than Seraphim? Do you want the breakdown? Or are you asking me who is the lynch today? 'cause that's Toasty. If you lynch Seraphim I'll be royally pissed.Rhinox wrote:ICE: I guess I'm just a little confused of your methods.
You say you don't care for metagaming, but thats basically why you're clearing seraph now when before you were sure he was town - pure meta. And I'm curious as to why you don't put forth that same level of investigation into your other suspects, namely toasty and VI. You've jumped around a lot, and haven't provided good justification for your changes in reads. Seems like you're making vague reasons up when pressed, which is something scum do when they don't actually have reasons. And come again regarding Vi's scum/town list? I don't see anything wrong with it
For bonus points, go find out how active he was at putting "pressure" on Seraphim. Hint: He wasn't. Hint two: He's put no pressure on me. Has he done a single thing to move his 'case' forward? Or has he sat there and vaguely answered what I said and never asked me a single question? All he does is defend, even with his vote on me. He's never done a bit of active scumhunting, just 'warned' people.ToastyToast wrote:Voting someone isn't the only way to show suspicions. My no vote = not decided. If GreyICE says one more thing that makes me say "SCUM," then I'll vote him. For now, I'm still focussed on Seraphim but don't want him at L-1. Seriously, though, I don't understand your pressure on me to vote. You weren't voting Seraphim until recently, and Untrod Tripod isn't voting either.UncertainKitten wrote:@Toasty: Let me put it this way. What good does it do town for your vote to be nowhere, at the moment? It's not like GI is at L-2 or something.
Why aren't you backing up your suspicions?
This is his vote post. For extra super points, note how much of his case against me later is ex post facto.ToastyToast wrote:I was about to do a scum list, but soo many people are null reads. I'll only post the people who are probably town and probably scum.
Town
Kdub:He posts little, but they all contribute. I'm moving him from a null read because of this.
UK: She's questioned pretty much everyone, and is actively scum hunting.
LLD: The vote on her isn't well thought out, and she isn't phased by the votes on her. She played the same way I would have in the given situation.
SCUM
GreyICE--Uses logic as a reason for votes that don't actually have much behind them; trying to lead town onto various people, then changing his mind when he sees that he doesn't have a chance.
Seraphim--he says he knows something about flavor, then doesn't tell us what he knows; Also,Seraphim wrote:Logic has no place in a game of Mafia
Seraphim has been very hostile towards GreyICE, which is why I think only one of them can be scum.
Untrod Tripod: Out of all the lurkers, he has been the least productive. Hasn't come up with anything on his own......apparently he voted for me as I'm writing this. You haven't asked any questions of me. I don't vote often, and like to remain consistent. Terrible reason for a vote.
Also, just to appease you, UK, IVOTE: GreyICEI suspect him the most.
Can I call your attention to this list again?...these are the people he's called scum: Seraphim, Me, Jahudo, CES, Antitown, and Rhinox (says he's waffling on this one)
HE DID IT TO DEFLECT ATTENTION!Also, just to appease you, UK, I VOTE: GreyICE I suspect him the most.
1) IoAToastyToast wrote:@GreyICE: I think you misread the quote in response to UK. I was questioning why she was pressuring me into a vote that I wasn't 100% sure about. And yes, much of my case is based on your reactions to the vote and to the case I began to form. The reaction just added to my scum-read, and thus I have become 100% sure of my vote. And I've already explained the list of people you've suspected clearly enough. You said it was a misrep, I responded by finding all the quotes in which you have suspected someone. This includes Rhinox, as an RVS vote isn't really an RVS vote at all if you place it down out of suspicion.
Question: What is your scum-read on Vi relying most on? The "uselessness" of his posts, his attack on you and agreement with me, or something else?
This is a hell of a lot of lines of text that mean... uh... nothing. Nada. Nofink. This was a whole lot of empty space masquerading as town-like posting.Lady Lambdadelta wagon:
*Untrod Tripod
*Antitown
*UncertainKitten
*Cogito Ergo Sum
*Seraphim
*Nachomamma8
UT and Antitown had random votes.
As mentioned before, I don't really agree with UK's reasons for voting LLD, though LLD validated the vote-based reason by jumping on CES soon afterward. I don't really mind LLD spending so much time defending the red text (since it DID become an issue) and as said before I got the opposite hunch on LLD's bounty talk.
lol, CES. As soon as LLD became a hot wagon he jumped over.
The wagon pretty much lingered there until Seraphim voted her for asking for a claim, etc., etc.
Of the four votes that were made based on anything LLD did in this game, the only one that really runs counter to what I was already thinking is UK's. Nacho trolls as every alignment, unless I'm mistaken.
It's a nice long bunch of HOT AIR. THERE IS NO CONTENT THERE. It's allSeraphim wagon.
*Kdub
(*ToastyToast)
*Vi
(*Cogito Ergo Sum)
*GreyICE
*Lady Lambdadelta
*UncertainKitten
Kdub called Seraphim on his flavorscumfishing, which I agree with. (This was before Seraphim claimed inside information.)
Toasty called Seraphim on not revealing his softclaimed information. It's not a bad reason for a vote, but most of his talk before, during, and after the vote were based on flavor and mechanics as well, so etc.
Vi voted Seraphim because of the flavorfishing and not doing anything else productive.
lol, CES.
GreyICE voted Seraphim for waffling and because Seraphim said that he was backpedaling.
LLD voted Seraphim because of his out-of-place jokeposts.
UK voted because... I'm not sure, aside from calling LLD a rolefisher for asking for a claim.
These UK votes actually look bad in retrospect.
Also and actually, I think I understand what CES is doing. I think it should be okay to leave him be for the time being.
It was a mistake. It was provably late at night, and I fucked two players up.ToastyToast wrote:I admit that I misread your views of Antitown (and already did so earlier). You still suspected Rhinox, CES, and Jahudo. Whether or not the Jahudo thing was an actual mistake can be accepted/not accepted by any player, but I have read it as an initial mistake followed by a "clear town read" to distract people from it later.
1) Yes Vi, I would have liked to see someVi wrote:--- AboutVi, specifically the case on me
Case on me:
1) IIoA, in re: wagon analyses
I did those specifically because GreyICE asked me to do them.
Read that again.I'm being accused of doing something by the person who asked me to do it.
As for it being useless in the end, it depends on who you're talking to. I figured out what CES was doing (I think), and it was what got me to start seriously looking at UK. If nothing else, it helped me. :\
2) Setup analysis that didn't end anywhere
Saying that it "kept going for pages" kind of ignores the fact that it was there for... two posts. And one more because Nacho+UK asked about it. And it's not like it was all I was doing during that time.
3) Lack of commitment - Actually not a bad accusation.
I don't have a lot of solid Town reads in this game, as my previous post suggests. Most of the people ITT choose not to converse like normal human beings. I've had to repeat myself over the course of the game in order to get people to answer my questions, and it's still not working. Given that I don't think most people here are terminally retarded, I'm left to assume that people are deliberately ignoring them (or giving nonanswers). I don't ask BAD questions; if I'm wrong on that, someone tell me. So my reads are for 10/13 people more or less guessing their motivations. The only thing I CAN do is keep trying to press people.
It doesn't help that I'm not dealing with this thread in anything close to real-time; distancing me from rapid repartee, giving me the chance to forget what I'm doing, and forcing me to make these silly wallposts. That's not something that can be helped right now though.
4) OMGUS
*looks at no small part of my previous posts*
Raise your hand if you buy this.
His reason for voting me:My vote on seraphim is a gutread that I'm ready to change when I find someone to be more scummy. His soft-claim just struck me as something intended to confuse. Like "hey...I have information that may hurt the scum team, but I'm not going to tell you it TEEHEE"
Does it take much to explain why my vote is on him right now? No. FUCK no. These were two horrible reasons for voting.GreyICE--Uses logic as a reason for votes that don't actually have much behind them; trying to lead town onto various people, then changing his mind when he sees that he doesn't have a chance.
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Also, just to appease you, UK, I VOTE: GreyICE I suspect him the most.
I would actually love to see that. (Cut: And more than just the fake version.)As for me being the counterwagon, what? You wanna wagon me, do it with style. Fuck, Seraphim hasn't even voted for me yet! Cue Seraphim going "oh noes, I will remedy that right now!"
But since you asked,
Unvote: Seraphim
Vote: GreyICE (L-3 or something)
Would you like to enlighten me on those Town reads you threw out, and whether you're still standing by your Seraphim vote?
Cogito Ergo Sum wrote:Unvote, vote: Seraphim
Cogito Ergo Sum wrote:Unvote, vote: GreyICE
It really has, hasn't it? You've never seen me as town though. I tend to scumhunt through patterns and motivations. I'm looking for things that tell me there's a team out there.UncertainKitten wrote:/me facepalms
Unvote, Vote Seraphim
GI is town, much as I hate to admit it. I can say this with certainty. GI, why don't you try hard? Your entire game has been lackluster.
Want a trip down memory lane? CooLDoG, HavingFitz, AND Katsuki?UncertainKitten wrote:I disagree. While we've both been there, I don't think it's a universal thing.
Secondly, it is pretty much absolutely nothing GIdidthat makes him town. It's something I have, obviously.
Thirdly, scumtells are dumb, scum intent is better, and Seraph and GI were leaking it. Clearly I was wrong on GI. I refuse to believe I'm wrong on Seraph.