Mini 1085: Higurashi Mafia Game Over!

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/confirm
I'm also flavorclueless woo

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It "sparks discussion".

That said:

1. What is your experience level? -how many games have you played in?
2. Do you agree with Lynch All Liars?
3. Do you agree with Lynch all Lurkers?
4. What would you do as scum at L-1 to try and shift the lynch away from you?
5. When do you find it appropriate to hammer someone?

1.) I've played in a handful of handfuls.
2.) No. Lynch all unnecessary liars, hoss yea.
3.) Always and forever.
4.) Never happens. Never will. I AM LEGION.
5.) The first chance I get.

That said I like your style.

Yo yo andrewski: How would that 1.) wifom and/or 2.) "trap" people? Serious question.

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Ohhh andrewchan you better gets back in.

That said: You vote it, you say you're opposed to it... then you answer it. FAH

And this whole coddle lurkers business needs to be carved out with fire.

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[quote]because in general UK, RQS is terrible. 5 I would assume would be the same for pretty much everyone, 4 is wifom, and 3 would be the same, I just don't assume a few people here think it's rational to

go after ALL lurkers[/

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Hi.

Every time.

WIFOM is overrated and ESPECIALLY with this because its not about the answer itself but the answering.

And me? Unless I'm p sure of town I'll throw down the hammer. Sometimes I don't even wait for a claim.

I've got issues with my bloodlust.

My sweet sweet bloodlust.

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I'm still hashing that one out. I can't decide if its genuine or if he's pulling a Kaiser Soze on me.

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Ooooouuuuu

The Usual Suspects. I can't really say more but lets just leave it at it fits really well with what I'm millin' about.

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My point being, succinctly, that using this as evidence is rather pointless. And if we can't use it as evidence, we're wasting our time on it.

There is a HUGE difference between 'evidence' and 'a case'.

However, there is information to be had all over. I said I'd hammer even without a claim and not a peep.

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Unvote, Vote: Carrot

There's one scenario I could see that wouldn't make him scum but I'd still lynch (I'm not releasing the can of worms).

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You're next now. Thanks for that.

P.S. if Carrot DOES flip scum I dont even want talking tomorrow just dead Zodiark.

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UNVOTE ON THE PAIN OF DEATH

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I had a mellow day so I'm feeling nice.

Unmodified jesters are the ultimate in bad role. They are designed to do one thing: punish a town for doing what they are supposed to.

So, jesters win a few games and town starts doing this whole "OHH SNAP SCUMBO MCSCUMBO* MIGHT BE A JESTER NO LYNCH EVER" and then the scum wise up and go "Hey, in the right setup, we can call jester and ride the lightning."

So, really, what do you do?

You go "Ohh sure, there might be a jester. There might be 3 accounts that are all the mod. There might be lots of things that make this a terrible game. However, if that is the case we do it and then afterwards make the mod write an essay on 'This is why jesters are bad.'"

So, why are you next? Because, RED CAPS LOCK sure as hell makes me think you lie in the "scum wise up" part of the jester circle of life.

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Ohhh it was lol reactions.

Carry on.

(with the lynch)

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1.) It isn't a stupid idea lambda, many setups have been broken by a day one flavor claim. Mini-themes usually aren't the best at balance. Saying it helps scum more is as baseless as saying it helps town more. But I've generally good experiences at mass flavor claims. And people who suggest it aren't usually,

believe it or not, role fishers, but are town.

Scum are probably much, much more afraid of this than the town is. They need to contend with duplications, and they'll try to pick a role late. But doing so makes them suspicious. This is different from normal games. Role fishing becomes a tool for the town.

WHAT DOES EVERYONE THINK OF A FLAVOR CLAIM?

I never asked a flavor claim. It was all you going: "Guys he asked for a flavor claim!". Re-read the initial post, like I've been telling you for so long.

Between "Ohh look I did this town thing that I said was town!" and the semantic postulate of "Hey, asking EVERYONE what they think about a flavor claim isn't ME asking for a flavor claim" (Hint: if I say "Who wants to shoot carrot in the face until they're dead" it DAMN WELL BETTER mean that I want that to happen) I'm cool.

Then, lol, reactions for it all.

Yes.

And my vote said all that needs to be said.

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Are we playing along or are you two up to something no good that I have to glare at until it stops?

I'll get my glarin eyes ready, jic.

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*deep breath*

Good. I'm glad we're all friends here.

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Things depend on this flip, o course, but:

Lambda-chan: Drench, Carrotcake
Rena: UK
Cityofas: ZazieR, Zodiark
Zodiark: Exilon
Carrotcake: Lambda-chan, TheLonging, UncertainKitten, Spyrex

Not Voting: Cityofas, andrew24, Tumescence

I think this will be a fun one come parse time. If this is a scum flip I'm not smelling bus for once which would be AWESOME-O

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Of that one. I forgot about CityofA and I'd probably facemelt him regardless at this point.

Along with tumescence.

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You've got me?

Special UK powers?

Lets just say from VC alone IF Carrot flipped scum I'd be confident in finding one of the others assuming 3 in (Cityofas, andrew24, Tumescence) and the other in (Zazier, Zodiark, Exilon).

If I was a baller I'd say its CityofA AND Zodiark but we'll see.

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^

This 100 times.

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It depends on the flip. I could see MAYBE trying that but the same brainwaves that would make the jester claim on town make sense should also be advanced enough to know jester claim always bad idea.

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Yes. It is time for the purging and the fire.

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It doesn't matter WHAT you were talking about at that point (the fact that a flavor claim is bad is just icing). It is far more about "Welp, what does everyone think about doing X" to "I never SAID we should do X" which means either you are lying in the second statement OR your first statement was unnecessary white noise.

Your pick.

At the end of both roads is a noose.

And then going OHH IT WAS LOL REACTIONS AND TRAP SPRUNG NOW doesn't change anything.

And I'm pretty sure I saw BY THE POWER OF MATH I AM TOWN up in there too.

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Simplifications don't work for you spyrex. I can come to accept my lynch, but used simple math to highlight the staggering lack of preparation for the likely outcome.
Exactly.
I never said we should do X.
I said we should discuss doing X.

Is it so hard to believe, that people bring up topics they may not agree in, in the interests of creating discussion.
"OHH IT WAS LOL REACTIONS AND TRAP SPRUNG NOW doesn't change anything."
Why?
Why doesn't it change anythign.
Are you implying that creating reactions on day one, is without merit.

Actually, you went "9/12 chance I'm town" which is placing a variable on a constant (even if we don't know it). That line is just a not so clever rephrasing of

statistically

, I'm town.

Which is junk.

And you're still holding to "Thoughts on a flavor claim?" didn't have the

implication

that you actually wanted a flavor claim?

Again, if right now I went "Thoughts on lynching UK?" what is the implication? WHAT IS IT? (Hint: the obvious response would be "What? You're not even voting UK?")

And LOL, REACTIONS and TRAP SPRUNG don't change anything (in regards to your alignment)

(which is scum)

(thank you)

(the management)

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Is manager a role ever?

What would it do? Its it like a governor?

(BTW I didn't even get into "Sorry kitten, you didn't seem important." / "I haven't read your posts")

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Alll that flavor talk and lol gambit and you claim without any flavor? Ohh that is so beautiful.

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If this doesn't happen before I go to bed. WRATH.

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Am I the criminal, or is it YOU plebs?

Los ropos.

P.S. If it is time for the heat death of the universe and you flip town:

I feel no remorse. I would do it again.

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Unvote, Vote: Zodiark

Remind me come the morrow if not dead to talk about something seriously getting my goat.

Additionally, like I said: no regrets.

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I see a lot of flavor talk and that makes me mad.

UK, you're going up the rope today. Get out everything useful you can.

Additionally, I'm starting to get REALLY worried about Tuminesence. I'll say nothing else about my role for now but I DO have access to a QT with them and they have said more there than here (and both amount to nothing).

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It'd only put me at L-2, and it'd make you look a lot more convicted in your determination to lynch me. That said I'll try to get one of those dreaded *lists* out tonight with reads on everyone. I have DnD this afternoon and a bullshit clusterfuck of dishes to do this morning.

Make it happen.

I didn't vote because I was too tired/lazy to see where we were at.

Unvote, Vote: UK

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Hold up (and I think you'll dance with me normal UK because, well, <3):

If there is an SK, as mafiers, what happened last night to cause NO kills?

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I thought you were dead?

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Mostly rage at tum at the moment.

And happy feelings about some players and angry feelings about others BUT even being scum still <3 for you.

And I think my brain shut off with this game when it turned into some kinda AHA moment based on the flavor.

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There is a lot of SK madness there which STILL doesn't make sense to me BUT you being scum pulling that stunt doesn't either so... I have to believe you? Which would point that way for sure.

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I mean believe you about an SK existing, not that its LL.

But, there is some SK weirdness up on that side.

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Yea you may be for the death here REAL soon tume

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I'm absolutely fine with Tume.

ANYWHO, I'll check this game more when I'm back home since it's kinda lokey now

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I will say this:

I do NOT want Tume modkilled.

So, if we're gonna dance lets dance right.

Unvote, Vote: Tume

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I'm Hanyuu (I assume since I'm the one that can talk to Tum in the neighbor chat she says nothing in).

Trust me, this is fine.

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I'm going to blindly accept that your flavor logic makes sense.

Unvote, Vote: Drench

Seriously there that was something awesome.

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Two days.

City of A is fine.

Additionally, I have no plans to claim today. For reasons I wont tell you. Because, I'm coo like that.

Unvote, Vote: CityofA

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I had fun. Being totally disconnected from the flavor hurt. Some of the town hurt a LOT. Getting too clever for myself in regards to LL really hurt too.

So, fun and pain, together at last.