Mini 1072 - Battle of Alcatraz

[SpyreX]

You know what the insane do?

Start riots.

Vote: Exe

[SpyreX]

Welll McG MAYBE THIS TIME YOU WONT BE SCUM AND THEN HAVE TO DIE.

What're you on about TBM? Its not the mystical third voting is it?

[SpyreX]

The discussion of setup isn't inherently bad OR good and could lead to things later.

The fact that Budja IN THE SAME POST manages to go "pointless but you're town for it" ARGGH

However, that doesn't change that awesome Exe post

[SpyreX]

Even if it was "speculation" it wouldn't change anything.

But, Kat is right.

[SpyreX]

With a capitol I, apparently.

You're seeing the forest Budja, but not the trees. That's ok though and I have warm fuzzies

[SpyreX]

Simple, it's an RVS vote.

Ohh, I love when liars lie for no reason.

Unvote, Vote: Nopoint

[SpyreX]

So what happens to the guy that gets lynched? Is he out of the game or free?
On the other hand, I don't believe set-up speculation at this period is pro-town because scums have more info than town at this point of the game.
Vote:Spyrex

Simple, it's an RVS vote.

In what world is that an RVS vote?

[SpyreX]

You're looking at it wrong:

"Bad vote on SpyreX for reasons that are objectively false"
"Called out for it being objectively false"
"Saying its an RVS vote"

[SpyreX]

Ohh Reaper-chan when can I shamelessly sheep you? Is it soon?

Exe is fine. HOWEVER, I can't get past the disconnect required for nopoint to not be full of it.

[SpyreX]

Sometimes they're "too easy" for a reason.

That said if the counterwagon on Exe goes I will hammer with impunity.

[SpyreX]

IT DOESNT HAVE TO BE SPELLED OUT I SEE WHAT KAT IS GETTING AT.

Speaking of that kattykins:

That wagon has some scandalous suspects on it. However, if you look at it, its just that kind of thing to bus. Doubly so if he's a goon.

[SpyreX]

OOOUUU a new challenger approaches.

Kat, show the lie if its there and make this easy peasy.

[SpyreX]

Because I'm lazy and making THEM do it gleens more from it than if I did?

If that's the exchange Kat's high on goofballs, though.

OHhh lordy be don't you start that meta dance.

[SpyreX]

Muffin is town. Or professional at faking, which I doubt.

TBM is town.

OHhhhh Budja are we gonna have to do this now.

Nopoint is still scum and lets make this clear EVEN IF your silly enough to think that his first post was disconnected pieces:

Did I say speculating is a scumtell?

On the other hand, I don't believe set-up speculation at this period is pro-town because scums have more info than town at this point of the game.

[SpyreX]

Sorry I forgot to put quotes. Those are both from nopoint.

[SpyreX]

?

Try again, good sir.

[SpyreX]

Spyrex, tell me, what makes you think that what RC and I did was setup speculation, rather than setup clarification? Love to hear your thoughts.

What in the hell does that have to do with anything at all?

Where did I say ANYTHING about that?

Good lord.

Good.

Lord.

Try again.

[SpyreX]

However, that doesn't change that awesome Exe post

Exe is fine. HOWEVER, I can't get past the disconnect required for nopoint to not be full of it.

That said if the counterwagon on Exe goes I will hammer with impunity.

Kat, show the lie if its there and make this easy peasy.

TRY AGAIN GOOD SIR

[SpyreX]

If repeatedly saying in essence "He's a second choice" is somehow ignoring him I'm not sure what you want from me then.

[SpyreX]

Evidently SpyreX is fine with the Exewagon, but is loath to actually hop on and take it for a whirl. Spy, please quicksplain why you are still on the absolutely terrible nopoint wagon. a) It's horrible. b) It's dead. c) Did I mention it was horrible.

The hell?

I dont care if its 'dead' because it'll come back. The simple fact that it went down like that and it STILL doesn't make sense is enough for me to plant my foot dead on it.

[SpyreX]

Nop by a wide margin, Exe and... WILDCARD.

The tree needs to shake out and words need to happen before yer gettin a third out of me.

[SpyreX]

Since I'm feeling GENEROUS and all I'll pre-warn that if you're at L-1 I'm forced by powers greater than me to hammer.

Mmmmmm hammers.

[SpyreX]

You SAWS MY POST RITE

I'm serious. Just really tired and don't want to count.

BUTT IF I SEE AN L-1 YOU KNOW I'LL DO IT

[SpyreX]

It's like pouring one out for my homey Porkens. We were talkin about mafia on the phone and he's too busy to play sooo I'm TAKING UP THE CAUSE

[SpyreX]

I reaallly need to update that thing. I'm tons of games behind. *mental note*

[SpyreX]

Nice try MR MAN like I didn't know YOU were on that wagon.

In fact, I was making it clear for you that if you didn't want good ol fashioned ultra-violence you'd be aware

[SpyreX]

Actually wait that vote count is all jacked up you're voting AND not voting at the same timeeee

[SpyreX]

The musclerelaxers are legion. Stupid neck.

[SpyreX]

Look I CANT BE FOOLED BY YOUR NUMBERS AND FAKEMATHS

[SpyreX]

NICE TRY EVEN I CANT DIVIDE BY ZERO MUHAHA

[SpyreX]

At least...

Not yet.

Soon. Soon.

[SpyreX]

Budja if I wasn't 4 seconds from bed I could strangle you through the internet.

I'M TRYING here and while I will hammer the hell out of Exe I've still not gotten anything explaining to me why what I'm on is so left field.

[SpyreX]

Can I hammer yet? IS IT TIME?

[SpyreX]

I'm down with whatever.

[SpyreX]

One more post to claim and I hammer.

I'm feeling nice.

[SpyreX]

THY WILL BE DONE

Unvote, Vote: Exe

[SpyreX]

Yo yo cooldog

Why did you jump to cult considering you've read the posts versus other far, far more likely outcomes?

[SpyreX]

a) Since when are you a supporter of Lynch All Liars?
b) Why did you not promote setup discussion?

1.) I lynch liars

if there's no reason for the lie

. Because, normally, no reason or a poor reason is for killin.
2.) Because, while the discussion isn't bad, there's not really a whole lot to discuss?

Which leads me to:

@spy, *sigh* read the goddamn mod posts...

Ya know, I did just that.

And, since it spells out that at the start everyone is jail kept going OHH SNAP CULT and then going BUT THE MOD SAIDDDDD when he absolutely didn't, well.

And, I was GOING to see if you'd reference the fact YOU SPECIFICALLY ASKED IF THERE WAS A CULT AND WAS IN FACT TOLD NO BUT ALAS.

Unvote, Vote: Cooldog

[SpyreX]

CoolDog asked if there was a cult D1. The mod said, pretty clearly, no.

Then, came out today with OMG cult and when asked about it told me to check the mod's posts.

[SpyreX]

@ Fate, do the "unlocked" prisoners become scum?

Freed prisoners do not change alignment. However once all the prisoners are freed they no longer count as being "alive" per the win conditions of this game.

[SpyreX]

You can't be this obtuse.

1.) The mafia in this game are attempting to break out of prison. The rumors going around are that they will do this by breaking out enough prisoners to start a riot. Prisoners will be told when they are freed but not by whom. When all the prisoners are freed the riot will start and the Battle of Alcatraz will begin and the jail will fall.

2.) All Prisoners start off the game in the "imprisoned" status. This is a special status that works the same as being jail-kept in other mafia games, such that the player can not be targeted by any abilities. Players may only be freed while in this state.

So, with that its pretty clear there couldn't be a kill N1 because everyone was jailed. AND YOU ASKED IF IT WAS A CULT GAME AND WAS TOLD NO.

So, what does being unlocked do? It frees the jailing. Maybe Billy the Shiv done gets unlocked and can go around and try to stab people now for freedom. Maybe poor Mr Roper gets unlocked and has to just play tiddlywinks until either the scum get lynched or everyone is broken out or the scum decide to kill his face because now he's freedom'd and can be killed.

The one thing it says, over and over and over, is that being unlocked doesn't HELP THE SCUM and the simple fact you were told this and jumped back to OHH SNAP CULT versus anything else makes me :headdesk: all over zombietown.

[SpyreX]

?

I could get behind that sentiment, unless I'm missing something?

[SpyreX]

OHHHHHH

Snap.

Unvote, vote: nop

[SpyreX]

@spy, if they don't help scum then why do they un-lock them? The scum would never entertain an action that would gain them nothing or hurt them. Also why the quick vote change? I still think that this game has a recruitment system (lets face it un-locking is the same as recruiting or allowing night actions to be done on them...). That is all I'm trying to say. And am I correct in saying that your whole case hinges on me saying that this is a cult game?

I swear.

Scum win when

all the prisoners are freed.

However, the act of freeing said prisoners doesn't DO anything to the prisoners.

And, its not that you said its a cult game.

Its that you asked, were told no, and then did the same old song and dance.

AND I SWEAR IF I HAVE TO EXPLAIN WHY THAT VOTE CHANGED FFF

[SpyreX]

:headdesk: :headdesk: :headdesk:

SERIOUSLY GUYS.

Stop looking deeper. No kills because everyone who they'd want to kill was jailed last night. Easy peasy.

[SpyreX]

So @nopoint I would have to say that at least one of [you, McGriddle, Katsuki] are scum, and I am also getting bad vibes from SpyreX.

SpyreX, convince me you're town. It'd make my game a LOT easier if I knew I didn't have to worry about you stabbing me in the back.

I'd also like to know what Copper thinks about Exe flipping town. You haven't said anything about the flip yet you've posted twice since.

No knives bro.

I'm not sure what you want BUT I will tell you that *gasp* no way in hell would I try to beat you chuckleheads away from CULT CULT CULT if I was scum OR cult.

Its too juicy.

[SpyreX]

He's in this game?

The things we learn.

GOOD AUTHORITY?

OR THE BEST AUTHORITY?

[SpyreX]

ACTUALLY

I want Copper to come fully clean before I spew on this thread.

[SpyreX]

Lets make it real simple:

You can not be a Prisoner.

So, there's something else afoot.

(DAMNIT TBM)

[SpyreX]

Actually, you know what, its fine.

Unvote, Vote: RC

That just means that the not prisoner managed to hit a scum because otherwise there could have been NO result.

So, either truth or lying. I'm down.

[SpyreX]

Unvote

Well FINE then.

I'll reread under the RC-scum guise tonight as well.

[SpyreX]

Loook at me waiting.

Copppeeerrrr

[SpyreX]

Done.

Unvote, Vote: RC

I AM LORD OF HAMMERS

[SpyreX]

Ohh game you be awesome yo.

Unvote, Vote: Muffin.

Bag it, tag it.

[SpyreX]

Habit.

And, unless I'm missing something key:

Exe (7): Katsuki, Muffin, Nikanor, McGriddle, ReaperCharlie, Copper, SpyreX

Muffin looks FAR more the part at the mo than McG.

Not that they both shouldn't become the dead but.

[SpyreX]

Nop is town town town, btw.

Why McG over Muffin tho?

[SpyreX]

Unvote, Vote: McG

[SpyreX]

I'm back and angry at all of you in this game for NOTHING HAPPENING.

Man up and vote.

[SpyreX]

Look we got some kinda vig/sk.

Lynch, Modkill + hindy dead to that = victoly

[SpyreX]

Sorry, let me reiterate:

Muffin is past modkill.
Lynch McG
TONIGHT, whomever it was that made the death happen last night on scum makes it happen on hindu.

[SpyreX]

MAKE IT HAPPEN

[SpyreX]

Unvote

LOOK, now I'm the badguy again.

SEE, you can jump on and then go OHH NOES SPYREX DID IT AGAINS

[SpyreX]

I know. I'm just talking because its dead in here.

[SpyreX]

Do it TBM.

Feed your rage.

Feed your hate.

FEED YOUR HUNGER

[SpyreX]

I tried earlier and it was locked and then the power went out.

Unvote, vote: McG

[SpyreX]

The flakers hurt a lot.

I'll give more once I'm caught up on everything.