970 Grimm'S PR Madness- OVER

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Will post

a review

tommorow

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Sorry,RL

issues. Will

definitely post a

summary tomorrow.

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I am sorry that this post is kind of scatterbrained.

I feel that Poms. vote on Deer in the first post of page 14 was scummy, because she was obviously trying to direct the attention from herself to Deer by using the same reasoning against him as he was using against her.

@DP:[/b] If you are town, I hate to put you in this position, but since I am rather convinced you are not:

Claim.

Or die.

Yes, I am soft-claiming killing power. No, I will not give you details.

This quote appears scummy. Shouldn't town have nothing to hide?

Also, looking @ how pom is posting, it appears that she is just looking for someone to lynch, whether they be scum or town. I noted this by looking @ who she says she thinks is scum. She changes her mind often and with little reasoning.

I am thinking that Pom. is the most likely to be scum.

Also, looking @ the items that were robbed, the prescription and the DVD make sense to her role claim, but the welcome mat seems like a scum item. Scum members want people to stay away from them, where the "it" person would want people to go towards them correct? The onion I think does not mean anything.

StrangerCoug sure is sexy! His idea is even sexier!

<_<;

Yeah, I think I'm going to start doing that.

hai again rewq, I do believe we've met before, or at least, your name sounds familiar.

I replaced into Everyone's a Hero Mafia towards the end.

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Does any one

besides pom have any

reasons we should not lynch her?

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I am sorry that this post is kind of scatterbrained.

I feel that Poms. vote on Deer in the first post of page 14 was scummy, because she was obviously trying to direct the attention from herself to Deer by using the same reasoning against him as he was using against her.

Who would you have 'sided with' at that point, rewq?

@DP:[/b] If you are town, I hate to put you in this position, but since I am rather convinced you are not:

Claim.

Or die.

Yes, I am soft-claiming killing power. No, I will not give you details.

This quote appears scummy. Shouldn't town have nothing to hide?

Sooo... eurio should have claimed?

I would have called you both stupid. Sadly though I replaced Deer, so I am obligated to take his side.

I thought it was scummy that eurio said that she had a kill power but that she would not elaborate on it.

I'm saying it is dangerous for anyone to have a kill power and for the town members to know about it and how it works, just in case the person is scum.

Sorry if this makes little sense. I am half asleep.

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I dunno, I'm just saying that it seems more like rolefishing to me, does that make sense?

Yeah

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I guess

I will

Vote:Pom

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Does any one

besides pom have any

reasons we should not lynch her?

^^Scummy

Iecy evil player.

As I was reading

the only person

I saw vouching for Pom.

was herself

.

I wanted to know if any one else had anything else to say about her being town.

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Ummm.....

Wow.

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Should we all claim night actions or not?

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My slot has already claimed.

Last night

I was looking for someone to confirm as town

,

so I robbed Iecerint.

I found items hinting to a STRONG town Power role. I do not want to say exactly what he is for obvious reasons. Know that he is confirmed town though.

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I wanted to confirm someone who I saw as a townish player as town instead of having a CHANCE to find a mafia member. Since there are so few people left, I thought it would be very valuable to the town to have someone who is confirmed town.

As for the items I found, if I say what they are, he will definitely be NK'd.

Do you still want the items?

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Where

is

everybody?

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Locke

can you

please claim?

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When I robbed Iecerint, I stole a badge. I am assuming this means he is a cop.

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When I robbed Iecerint, I stole a badge. I am assuming this means he is a cop.

Only item?

Y

e

s

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@Mod

when is

deadline

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Snow Whine, The Locke says he has damn good reason to think you're eager to believe the claim:

Badge? Thats pretty good. Im not going to argue that then. 2more or less confirmed innocents. Im good with them both living through tonight.

As for the matter of breadcrumbs, there is no way, and The Locke means no way, that The Locke thinks Doc Jabroni would have bothered leaving crumbs when he could barely manage to get himself to post most of the game. Putting The Locke's results aside for a moment, The Locke thinks you're scummy because DP managed one post where he actually put forward some solid opinions and took a stance by voting Pittbunny. Other than that, it's been PR speculation, fluff and a total lack of effort to scumhunt in any way, shape or form. The Locke then investigated your slot and got entirely different information from what you're claiming your role is, so perhaps you can tell The Locke if there are any good reasons not to think you're scum?

Zazie, The Locke does not understand what your inventions do. Have neither of them had an effect because both Zang and SC are dead?

The Locke thinks a Snow White-Rewq team is by far the most likely, especially given all the claims.

If I were scum, why would I say that Iecerint were a cop? I would have taken advantage of ZazieRs suspicions of him and tried to get him lynched. I could have even made up a few items that pointed to him being scum.

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Rewq, The Locke hopes you don't expect him to actually take that monkey crap WIFOM and give you town points. The Locke would like to know who your top two suspects are and why, as you are not currently displaying any interest in finding the remaining scum.

Yeah thanks for pointing out my lack of scum hunting.

Will go back over the thread and determain who I think is scummyist.

Will have it in a day or two.

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I/It I/would I/seem I/very I/odd I/to I/me I/if I/LL I/and I/rewq I/(AND I/me) I/were I/all I/town I/due I/to I/balance I/issues.

I/LL, I/could I/you I/ask I/for I/information I/on I/your I/N1 I/result? I/Did I/you I/get I/"no I/result," I/or I/just I/no I/PM I/whatsoever?

Perhaps you have a godfatherish role then?

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The Mod has confirmed that yes, The Locke got no PM because he targeted a dead player.

Rewq: you think Iecy is a godfather now? What happened to your strong town stance?

I did and still have a strong

town read on him. However he is right about there being balance issues. I am town so I

must assume he is either a godfather who appears as a cop or an insane cop (I forget what the proper term is)

.

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Sorry but I have major RL issues

V/La until Monday at the

latest

.

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I know that I already said this, but if I were scum why would I say that I stole a badge? We are apparently in lynch or lose

. I could have said I stole a scummy item and then zazier would have supported the

lynch. Iecerint would have been lynched, and then I would have won. So what reason would I have to say I stole a badge

?

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@

iecerint. What was

your night action last

night? Who did you investigate?

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@Mod:

Can you prod Snow White?

She hasn't posted in 2 weeks and I don't recall her going V/LA.[/i]

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Vote: Locke Lamora

I doubt that there are 3 powers on the same side that relate to finding role/alignment.

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The Locke says this is ridiculous. Can someone either hammer Rewq or tell The Locke why he shouldn't be lynched and vote for someone else? If Snow White is not returning then hopefully The Mod will be replacing her soon but that's no excuse for posting nothing in the meantime.

I agree. If there is no

chance of anyone else being

lynched, just hammer me.

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U/Rewq U/and U/SW U/are U/both U/good U/lynches. U/Rewq U/gave U/bad U/Thief U/information U/and U/claimed U/Cops U/were U/insane U/when U/they're U/(or U/at U/least U/I) U/am U/confirmed U/not U/to U/be, U/and U/LL U/is U/either U/sane U/(because U/of U/the U/N1 U/result) U/or U/scum, U/so U/he U/can't U/account U/for U/rewq's U/Cops-are-insane U/claim.

U/SW U/is U/scummy U/for U/play U/and U/for U/the U/claim U/that U/doesn't U/match U/LL's U/"doctor" U/Thief U/result.

U/Also, U/it U/looks U/like U/one U/of U/the U/scum U/is U/a U/mafia U/doctor U/-- U/it's U/either U/SW U/(and U/her U/role U/is U/total U/bull), U/or U/it's U/someone U/she U/was U/busdriven U/with. U/In U/the U/latter U/case, U/the U/remaining U/scum U/are U/the U/busdriver U/and U/the U/doctor. U/The U/only U/other U/possibility U/is U/that U/LL U/is U/scum U/and U/totally U/making U/up U/the U/result U/on U/SW.

Me saying that you were insane was not bad thief information.

I said it because I doubted that there were two copish people on the same side.

I am even more doubtful of there being three, hence me voting Locke.

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V/I'm V/referring V/to V/something V/that V/Deer V/said. V/He V/said V/his V/PM V/implied V/the V/Cop V/was V/insane.

hmmm... I assumed that this was Grimmy's sense of humor.

He said in my PM that being a miller may some how help me.

Can you make something of that? All I see is humor.

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V/I'm V/referring V/to V/something V/that V/Deer V/said. V/He V/said V/his V/PM V/implied V/the V/Cop V/was V/insane.

Other than that there

is nothing that

could imply anything.

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Rewq: are there no other clues than it would "somehow help" you? The Locke is wondering how much of this game is just The Mod screwing with us. The Locke is guessing that your reaction to the hammer means you're not scum.

Everything

else in my PM is about

my role and allinment. Also I don't think I was hammered.

There are only two votes on me

.

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The Locke says Zazie voted you prior to V/LA. That was already L-1, well over a week ago. Iecy voted you this week, unless The Locke is missing something.

yeah... I got lynched.

For tomorrow, SW's slot auto-wins if it is scum because of the double vote.

If the slot is not scum, the scum must be ZazieR and/or Locke Lammora because Iecerint is confirmed sane. At the same time though, being mod-confirmed sane means that the players tole matches the allignment it usually is. I suppose Iecerint COULD still be scum, but I doubt it.

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@ mod

Can you delay deadline until SWs replacement comes in?

That way there is a chance we can get the player to possibly stop todays lynch if s/he thinks I

am town[/color

] (got bored w/ italics).

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Y/Anyway, Y/the Y/Deer Y/connection Y/is Y/particularly Y/bad Y/for Y/when Y/he Y/attacks Y/Deer Y/only Y/to Y/L-1 Y/him, Y/and Y/then Y?quickly Y/switches Y/to Y/Pom Y/without Y/really Y/picking Y/at YDeer Y/himself.

That sounds like he was just scum trying to hop on a wagon.

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A/LL A/got A/a A/"hospital" A/rolecop A/result, A/and A/no A/one A/has A/claimed A/doctor, A/so A/the A/doctor A/is A/lying A/scum, A/OR A/LL A/is A/lying A/scum.

So my power is confirmed, you are confirmed sane which I am going to assume means that you are town, that means that either SW or ZazieR has a doctor power.... perhaps the hospital refers to SW's stop town lynch power? Maybe the flavor is that she rescues the lynchee from being lynched and nurses them back to health? I realize that sounds like a stretch though.

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I robbed LL

.

I found a gun that is still smoking and

some movies from the Coppola series.

Will wiki later

. I also received a megaphone. I'm not sure why or what it does. Perhaps it gives me a 2x vote?

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@ ZazieR

What was your

night action

?

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K/If K/there K/is K/1 K/scum

K/My K/top K/suspect K/is K/LL. K/I K/think K/the K/only K/way K/LL K/could K/be K/town K/is K/if K/1) K/Z K/is K/a K/Godfather K/Inventor K/with K/doctor K/flavor K/or K/2) K/rewq K/is K/a K/Thief K/with K/doctor K/flavor K/or K/3) K/LL's K/Thief K/ability K/is K/completely K/random.

K/1. K/This K/is K/almost K/certainly K/not K/the K/case.
K/2. K/This K/is K/similarly K/pretty K/unlikely.
K/3. K/This K/is K/now K/unlikely, K/because K/LL's K/N3 K/result K/was K/consistent K/with K/an K/in-game K/role.

K/If K/there K/are K/2 K/scum

K/1. K/REWQ-ZAZIER K/-> K/The K/game K/is K/lost, K/no K/need K/to K/worry.
K/2. K/REWQ-LL K/-> K/The K/game K/is K/lost, K/no K/need K/to K/worry.
K/3. K/ZAZIER-LL K/-> K/Plothole K/with K/Z K/giving K/the K/item K/to K/rewq.

K/So K/I'm K/going K/to K/vote K/LL K/unless K/rewq K/or K/Z K/has K/a K/good K/reason K/for K/me K/not K/to.

I agree the most likely scum pair is LL and ZazieR because if someone were paired w/ me the game would be over,

so I am confirmed town, and you are mod confirmed sane which I will assume means you are town.

Lets wait to lynch though until he gets back from being V/LA and can respond.

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The Locke says he investigated Zazie, and was told that his target sneaks around at night and carries a bag with a dollar sign on it. This seems to be indicative of Rewq's ability, not Zazie's. The Locke is now even more confused than he was previously.

Rewq: The Locke says the Coppola series refers to the Godfather. The smoking gun seems fairly self-explanatory. The megaphone must be from Zazie. The Locke wants to know if your results state your target's name or not.

Iecy: The Locke does not comprehend your choice of target; if Tazaro was scum, why would he have stopped the lynch? It would have been an auto-win if scum-Tazaro had let town-Rewq get lynched. What's the point of claiming that you didn't kill Tazaro either? Why would a cop kill their investigation target?

No it does not say the targets name. However Zazier has confirmed that he targeted me, so I don't think that there is someone changing our targets. That means that I am thinking that the items I stole, the gun and godfather movies, were yours.

At the same time though there is the possibility that someone can misdirect one person per night and this time it was me, but I am doubtful of it.

@ Zazier Why did you chose to target me? I understand your idea that Icerint is scum, but why me over Locke, or even yourself?

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@LL:

Please

post

ASAP

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M/I M/will M/vote M/for M/LL M/tomorrow M/around M/noon M/if M/I M/am M/not M/given M/a M/compelling M/reason M/to M/do M/otherwise.

No then if zazier is scum he votes LL and it's game. If you are town you will not vote. Locke, I hope you understand our impatience. If you don't start some more action in this game soon, there is a good chance you will be lynched.

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Hmmm... Your right. I forgot about the item. So I guess by POE Locke is scum... Locke you will be lynched in let's say

2 days unless you can convince us that either you are not scum or someone else is more likely to be scum than you.

Does this sound fair to everyone?

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Rewq: why did you guess that the megaphone gave you a second vote? Was there any indication of that when you received it?

Grimmy said in my PM that when I talk, it will sound louder than other peoples today. I thought that the only thing that could mean is I get a 2X vote.

The only other plausible scenario The Locke sees is that Rewq is scum and has simply made up his result on The Locke to suggest a godfather, possibly because he himself is one (which I guess would explain why he wouldn't worry about the existence of a cop). The Locke finds this fabrication unlikely as Rewq seemed to be unaware of what his result meant, unless that was all for show. As stated previously, Tazaro's death also made The Locke doubt that Rewq was scum, although The Locke is WIFOMing himself to blue hell with that one. Hmmm.

Unvote

The question here is, how genuine is this?:

I robbed LL

.

I found a gun that is still smoking and

some movies from the Coppola series.

Will wiki later

. I also received a megaphone. I'm not sure why or what it does. Perhaps it gives me a 2x vote?

Obviously the Coppola movies are saying that there is a godfather in the game, and there is the gun, which I am thinking means that there is scum, not a survivor role as previously suggested. Also, no matter who this was redirected to, assuming that there was redirection, this means that the remaining scum is a godfather. I think i just realized how my miller role helps me. Me looking like scum under investigation shows that I am not a godfather, as a godfather would look like town.

Also, I robbed Pom. earlier, and I got items that supported her role of "It", and before this I don't think anyone complained about having redirected night actions (Please correct me if I am wrong), so the question is why are they starting now?

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To Rewq, The Locke says this: The Locke was either swapped with Iecy last night, you were redirected or you're making your result up. The Locke knows redirection is possible in this game because that is what Pitt's claimed role, confirmed via his flip, did. As for no-one complaining about redirection before, The Locke clearly had a result yesterday that contrasted with what Snow's actual role was and The Mod's ambiguous response on clarifying the target indicates that alternative targets to those chosen are still a possibility. The Locke does not know what happened the rest of the nights and, if there was redirection of some kind, whether scum used it anyway. The remaining scum being a godfather technically puts Zazie back in as possible scum if Iecy's result is accurate, but The Locke thinks your receipt of the item practically rules that possibility out.

Up until today, The Locke thought Rewq was most likely scum, but the choice of NK and Rewq's actions today don't seem to make sense if he is scum. Iecy's role is only verifiable by the badge result and as such has The Locke wariest about his potential to be lying, particularly as the remaining scum appears to be a godfather.

Hmmmmm forgot all about the ambiguous result.

I have been thinking have have come to the conclusion that the best thing for town to do today is no lynch. The scum then gets a night kill, and there are 3 people left to be chosen from. The night kill will probably be me because of the 2x vote. Locke and Icerint then target each other and check the results. Also, if we lynch today and are wrong we go into the night phase with 2 town 1 scum, and then the scum gets a night kill making it 1 and 1, giving scum the win.

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To Rewq, The Locke says this: The Locke was either swapped with Iecy last night, you were redirected or you're making your result up. The Locke knows redirection is possible in this game because that is what Pitt's claimed role, confirmed via his flip, did. As for no-one complaining about redirection before, The Locke clearly had a result yesterday that contrasted with what Snow's actual role was and The Mod's ambiguous response on clarifying the target indicates that alternative targets to those chosen are still a possibility. The Locke does not know what happened the rest of the nights and, if there was redirection of some kind, whether scum used it anyway. The remaining scum being a godfather technically puts Zazie back in as possible scum if Iecy's result is accurate, but The Locke thinks your receipt of the item practically rules that possibility out.

Up until today, The Locke thought Rewq was most likely scum, but the choice of NK and Rewq's actions today don't seem to make sense if he is scum. Iecy's role is only verifiable by the badge result and as such has The Locke wariest about his potential to be lying, particularly as the remaining scum appears to be a godfather.

Hmmmmm forgot all about the ambiguous result.

I have been thinking have have come to the conclusion that the best thing for town to do today is no lynch. The scum then gets a night kill, and there are 3 people left to be chosen from. The night kill will probably be me because of the 2x vote. Locke and Icerint then target each other and check the results. Also, if we lynch today and are wrong we go into the night phase with 2 town 1 scum, and then the scum gets a night kill making it 1 and 1, giving scum the win.

At the same time though,

if both of you guys agree that I am town, we might as well lynch today and have

the input of 3 town as opposed to 2.

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T/I T/suppose T/I T/could T/investigate T/LL T/if T/we T/do T/that. T/If T/he's T/really T/GF, T/though, T/it T/wouldn't T/be T/much T/use.

You should investigate ZazieR. His giving me the megaphone could have just been WIFOM. Locke would then investigate you and if you get a town result on ZazieR then Locke is scum.....

EBWOP: I just realized how stupid of a plan this is.

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We need to

lynch today

because if we no lynch, our night actions don't mean anything

. All that would happen is that one of us would be dead in the morning so there would be 3 possible lynchees instead of 4.

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So the possibilities are this:

z is scum with iecerint
LL is scum alone
Iecerint is scum aone
z is a godfather

Edited by the hand of...Grimmy!

Seriously though, you guys have done a bang up job keeping up with the PR's so dont worry about missing it once or twice...

but the THIRD time....
mu hu ha ha ha ha...cough cough...sorry...got carried away there...carry on.
Grimmy

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GARRRR

forgot my

post restriction

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V/Zscum V/would V/have V/to V/be V/a V/Godfather V/Inventor V/if V/only V/she V/is V/scum. V/It's V/a V/stretch.

V/Z V/isn't V/scum V/with V/me. V/She V/could've V/given V/me V/the V/item V/she V/gave V/you V/and V/won V/the V/game.

V/The V/scum V/from V/my V/PoV V/is V/you V/or V/LL, V/and V/LL V/looks V/more V/plausible V/to V/me V/due V/to V/his V/claim V/implying V/a V/redirector V/or V/"random V/target" V/mechanic V/and V/his V/approach V/to V/D4.

oh yeah didn't think of him giving

megaphone to you and winning. Why isn't Z possible to be scum at all though? I keep thinking about my megaphone

and I keep thinking WIFOM. Can you please quote lockes post where he implies the random target mechanic?

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W/Godfather + W/Inventor W/seems W/like W/an W/unusual W/combination. W/That's W/the W/only W/reason W/for W/Z W/not W/being W/scum. W/It's W/possible, W/but W/not W/likely.

W/LL W/got W/information W/from W/a W/role W/other W/than W/the W/one W/he W/claimed W/to W/have W/targeted W/every W/night W/except W/N1 W/IIRC.

W/N1 -- W/Targeted W/Zang, W/no W/result W/(cuz W/Zang W/died), W/Zang's W/SK-y W/result W/upon W/asking W/the W/mod
W/N2 -- W/Targeted W/SW, W/got W/Doctor-y W/result W/(presumed W/result W/on W/StrangerCoug)
W/N3 -- W/Targeted W/Zazie, W/got W/Thief-y W/result W/(presumed W/result W/on W/rewq)

W/I'd W/probably W/be W/willing W/to W/NL W/and W/go W/to W/D5 W/with W/3 W/players W/at W/this W/point.

You are

right there are

to many people and we are not going anywhere with this

Vote: No lynch

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This is my

rage post.

GO TOWN

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RAHHHHH!!!!!! I thought this may be may first win

Ah well, good game all. Great job to LL. I am amazed that you stayed up that long even with the whole GF thing.