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Post Post #41 (isolation #0) » Mon May 17, 2010 10:37 am

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Hello

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for lurking so long.

This is gonna be a very fast paced game! I'll try and check a few times a day in my bust schedule though.
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Post Post #42 (isolation #1) » Mon May 17, 2010 10:38 am

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busy*
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Post Post #44 (isolation #2) » Mon May 17, 2010 11:29 am

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well, it says scum right under my name...but then again, it says that under your name too....

Decisions, decisions...
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Post Post #83 (isolation #3) » Mon May 17, 2010 5:13 pm

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Wow, this is a ridiculously fast game. In the spirit of that,

Unvote

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for lurking more than I was.

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Everyone else for posting so much.
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Post Post #90 (isolation #4) » Mon May 17, 2010 5:55 pm

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Lol, I guess not, but it's ok. I think I can keep up. In terms of Deep South, yes I was aware of that mechanic :)
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Post Post #92 (isolation #5) » Mon May 17, 2010 6:08 pm

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Well that's a matter of opinion.
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Post Post #95 (isolation #6) » Mon May 17, 2010 6:45 pm

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Well probably Bouncy. He is either very weak in the logic department, or he is just a bad scum. With as much information as I have, I would choose Bouncy to lynch. This is only the first real day this game has started though. Much should unfold before we actually lynch. Right? Deadline is still 4 days away. With this in mind, I will leave my vote where it is for now.
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Post Post #107 (isolation #7) » Tue May 18, 2010 10:36 am

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Yeah, I don't like MS. I wouldn't be shocked if bouncy and he were a scum pair, noting MS's initial bussing and then his long case trying to shift suspicion off of bouncy. And lastly, bouncy hasn't reacted to the possibility of MS being scum. Furthermore they both are attacking Camn, making it even more of a possibilty that they are scumbuddies. I don't want to put MS at lynch-1, but right now, I'd put my finger on him.
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Post Post #197 (isolation #8) » Wed May 19, 2010 8:34 am

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This has been quite an eventful thread since my last post, and sorry for "echoing" but I just am checking much less often than some people. I would be more concerned about actual lurkers (bouncy). Regardless, I see no problem with lynching MS. Reagrdless if he is scum or bad town, he has made mistakes and at this point, they are unforgiveable. Deadline is 2 days away and no one (maybe bouncy) is even close be being fully considered as a lynch candidate for day 1. I see the eventual noose around MS's neck as unavoidable. I will vote MS soon unless anything changes.

I do have a question about gameplay, however. We are still in the morning phase, so does it matter if we lynch this early? Is there an advantage or disadvantage with lynching in the morning or day phase? Just curious :p
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Post Post #222 (isolation #9) » Wed May 19, 2010 1:51 pm

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@MS

Well, I know you're done responding to this accusation but..

YOU DID CHANGE YOUR STORY!

I am in 100% agreement with Kenman and Camn on that point. You said one thing. Then you said another. That is far from consistent. You can claim that you maybe didn't tell the entire story the first time, even though it can be easily inferred that you hadn't seen the vote count because YOU SAID YOU DIDN'T READ THE THREAD. Regardless, this inconsistency strikes me as quite scummy.

You complain about voting without cause so here it goes.

For more reasons...
MS wrote: EBWOP:

First fail of this game >.>;;

vote:bouncy.bouncy

....jeez >.>#
After claiming to not have read the thread, you noticed your unbolded vote and changed it. If anything, this is minute but it does show you had to have read the thread.
MS wrote: camn wrote:
bouncy.bouncy wrote:
...until that's resolved.

(hit the submit button too early)


Why don't we just lynch you, since you are scum.
That will resolve things nicely.


Why don't we vote you? Cause you clearly cant make more then two sentences. Or can you?

unvote

vote:camn~
You spelled "than" wrong, an obvious scumtell. No but seriously, you cast your first non-"random" vote with a pretty flimsy reason.
MS wrote: Me thinks your on to something Ellibereth.~

Bravo. This is a most precious day in the history of these hollowed three pages~

Let's test then shall we~

Unvote

Vote:bouncy.bouncy
Here, you bandwagon, this time non "randomly". Scum often jump the lynch train without providing their own thoughts or analysis to back up why they are suspicious of a player. You have said this repeatedly, yet you do the same thing here. You have spent so much time complaining about other people voting you for unoriginal reasons, but you do the same. Inconsistent much?
MS wrote: Ellibereth says me and bouncy are scum buddies.

She wants a bouncy lynch. If it comes out scum, then I must be scum as well.~

If bouncy came up town, this would catch her in a lie.

You know???
Wow. If this doesn't imply that you know who the scum are, then I don't know what does. You almost use bouncy's innocence as a way to clear yourself, if we were to lynch him. This post screams that you are scum and bouncy is not. You were just trying to find a reason to not be suspected if bouncy flipped town, and he was carrying the most votes at that point in the game. Scum play.
MS wrote: My thoughts are, that camn is full of sheet.~ The whole bouncy bandwagon was started because of a decent question he asked in response to these posts.

SaintKerrigan wrote:
Meanwhile, Vote: Ellibereth.
Policy lynch. We've never been on the same side.


SaintKerrigan wrote:
camn wrote:
@SK- I am not ready for an Eli lynch, policy be damned.
but Elli has never been on the same side as me, and I'm town in this game. What more could you possibly need?


bouncy.bouncy wrote:
SaintKerrigan wrote:
Meanwhile, Vote: Ellibereth.Policy lynch. We've never been on the same side.
This makes no sense unless he's always scum


camn wrote:
Well, not precisely.

Logically, if it WERE true, SK could be scum sometimes, whilst Elli were town.


SaintKerrigan wrote:
Camn is correct in the interpretation of my logic.

bouncy.bouncy wrote:
camn wrote:Well, not precisely.

Logically, if it WERE true, SK could be scum sometimes, whilst Elli were town.Quote:
Could you explain better?
MS wrote:
Out of the fracking blue he is voted on. lolwut?? He asked a pretty decent question if I say so myself. Even I'm lost with how "logical" that was. If SK said he voted eli for never being on the same sides as him, then that means that if Sk is scum, eli is town. Vice Versa.

Bouncy asked a simple question of elaboration, and all he got was veiled internet meme. This is sad. And the reason why I voted camn in the first place after I read the thread after placing my RV.

Bouncy is not weak in the logic department

His simple question was landslided with votes up the wazoo, by people who seem to not be able to give an eloquently simple answer to a simple question when presented to them, without the use of faceplams and undercurrents of internet meme on the horizon

Which is why I'll change my vote back to camn.

unvote

Vote:camn
I see this as very inconsistent. You first acknowledge that Elli may be correct with suspecting bouncy, who you proceeded to vote without reason. Suddenly, you jump to his defense. You were apparently suspicious of bouncy also but when Camn says so, she's "full of sheet"? INCONSISTENT.

After all of this, the big debate about your "random" vote starts and that is pretty much icing on the cake. I firmly believe you are scum, and once this is confirmed, I no longer see Bouncy as his partner. This may have to be re-evaluated but at the moment, I don't see them as the scum team.

If you do flip town, then an analysis of your bandwagon would still benefit your allignment so you wouldn't have died in vain. If you flip scum, good :).

Vote: Midnight's Sorrow


P.S. I previewed this post and there are some formatting issues with one quote. This is MS's 10th post so refer to that if my post gets confusing.
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Post Post #229 (isolation #10) » Wed May 19, 2010 2:12 pm

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Lol, well if there is a high chance of an inexperienced scum team, then I would say there is a high chance of Kenman= scum.

I know this is his first real game in this set up so I wouldn't put it past him to mess up a NK.
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Post Post #232 (isolation #11) » Wed May 19, 2010 3:07 pm

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@Buttonman

How so? I do know that he is not experienced in this setup of a game, and if there is a possibilty of mafia messing up a NK, then why not consider that?
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Post Post #233 (isolation #12) » Wed May 19, 2010 3:20 pm

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Well, what does everyone else think? I think Kenman is the scum here, based on what unfolded.
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Post Post #238 (isolation #13) » Wed May 19, 2010 8:33 pm

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Well, my reasons for suspecting Kenman have changed dramatically now, but I see no reason not to go with bouncy on this one. If bouncy is lying scum, he is hurting his allignment far more than the town's by claiming that so I think we should run with it. I do have a question though. If bouncy is a role blocker with town allignment, can he only block scum? Can he also block town power roles? It's just odd to think of town as having blocking capabilities (this is my first theme game).

In response to the question posed to me, however, my reason for voting Ken was, in fact, the no Nk and my knowledge that he is not experienced in this format. However, I did not vote him because I was not for certain that this was a scumtell. I will, however, vote for him now.



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Post Post #263 (isolation #14) » Thu May 20, 2010 6:13 am

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It's fine that you think I am scum. In fact, if you flip town then I guarentee that either me or bouncy is the next lynch. But realistically, we cannot discount the information bouncy has given us. Unless you make some important claim (like we're about to lynch a town power role), we have no choice but to go with bouncy on this one.

Basically, I wouldn't worry if you really are town because I will proably get lynched next and you will not have died in vain. But, as I said, unless you claim a town power role, I don't see you surviving today.
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Post Post #264 (isolation #15) » Thu May 20, 2010 6:14 am

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KenMan wrote: Im no genious, but...
Lol, too funny.
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Post Post #294 (isolation #16) » Thu May 20, 2010 10:36 am

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:)

Kenman has sealed his own fate. I know for a FACT that he is lying.

Here's why...

1) Meta. Kenman's first non-newbie game was a game similar to this one with very diverse roles. Right off the bat, someone claimed
hider
. Kenman isn't a hider, he is just false claiming based off of his first game with such roles. The reason I know this is because in the game where he was introduced to hider, the hider claimed
right away on the first day
. This is because the mafia cannot target the hider and it only benefots the town to know that he has such a role. He can then say who he hid behind every night and gradually give the town more info. Kenman knows this. He was in the game where this was done!
He knows for a fact there is no reason to not claim Hider immediately!
. Therefore, if he really were the hider, he would have claimed as soon as the game opened. Furthermore, he doesn't know any potential roles in this format (shown by the fact he did not know there could be a town roleblocker). It makes perfect sense that the only possible role he can claim is hider because he saw it in his previous game.

2. I am the
tracker
. My role can determine whether a player has targetted someone or not. I tracked Kenman and I found out that he
did not target anybody
. He is lying about targetting Hoopla. Even if his role was blocked, I would have seen who he targetted, but I was told that targetted no one. This means that he is definitely inexperienced scum and didn't send a role pm because
town would never lie about their role
. Therefore, I conclusively know that Kenman is lying and is therefore scum.

Now we have two options. Lynch me or lynch Kenman. Either way will confirm what I say, and frankly, I am done for either. Trading one pro-townie for a scum is a good trade any day and I will gladly be a martyr if it means that the town sees my role as tracker and then lynches Kenman.

Good game Kenman :)
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Post Post #295 (isolation #17) » Thu May 20, 2010 10:38 am

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@Kenman

Why don't you give us the link to your first non-newbie game. This would prove my point about meta. Or are you going to lie about this as well? :) I'll go back and find it if I have to, but please, post the link.
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Post Post #303 (isolation #18) » Thu May 20, 2010 11:12 am

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So be it :)

Kenman still loses.

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Post Post #304 (isolation #19) » Thu May 20, 2010 11:15 am

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But my pm tells me if that person targets someone, not if an action goes through. I read it very carefully. I tracked Kenman, and my response is that he targetted no one!

As I said, if I die, please lynch Kenman after. I am telling the truth and my role should prove it. I trust the remainder of the town to win this game.

Vote for either me or Kenman! Lol
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Post Post #326 (isolation #20) » Thu May 20, 2010 2:54 pm

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Unvote


I sent my pm at the very beginning of the day. I looked up my time and it was...

Monday at 9:18 pm

I tracked Kenman because he's my buddy lol. I don't know any other players in this game so I figured I would just track him, although I am currently tracking someone else because Kenman is sure scum and I don't wanna waste my ability on him.

So I guess the plan is to lynch neither Kenman or I...? If that truly is the strategy then please lynch Kenman tomorrow. I don't wanna drag this out because both my death and his death will confirm me. The scum may just keep me alive and roleblock me so that it doesn't expose that Kenman is lying.

I'm not sure who else I'm comfortable lynching at this moment, however, so I will run through the thread again before suggesting someone else.

Kenman is scum though.....we should just lynch him......
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Post Post #400 (isolation #21) » Sat May 22, 2010 5:11 pm

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Sorry, for my absence. I will run through the thread and post no later than tomorrow.
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Post Post #470 (isolation #22) » Mon May 24, 2010 3:40 pm

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He guys, sorry for everything but I'm going to ask to get replaced because this game moves far too fast for my current schedule. I feel like I'm not inputting my share so hopefully my replacement will finish the game properly.

Final thoughts,

LYNCH KENMAN!

He is obv scum because he was caught in a lie the day before and he is now caught in a lie again. He is not hider. I am not scum. I see no possible reason to hold off on this. I guarentee you that his scum and the people trying to delay Kenman's lynch are probably scum (*cough* Camn *cough*). But yeah, once again I am Tracker. I tracked the Buttonman yesterday and he did not target anyone. I may have just gotten roleblocked since I had claimed previously but it's just food for thought.

But yes, good luck town, please win this! (although I don't know if I get a win or loss if I get replaced out).

GG
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Post Post #482 (isolation #23) » Mon May 24, 2010 9:20 pm

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Vote:Kenman


Just to help the town out as I part.
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Post Post #484 (isolation #24) » Mon May 24, 2010 11:03 pm

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Kenman + Camn + most likely SPS = scum team for sure....


Ok, those are my last thoughts, no more talking for me...

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