959: Malth's Alternate Reality: Game Over

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Vote: malthusis

FOS: UK

for voting the mod.
Perpetrating a scummy meta is scummy.

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Unvote
Vote: Pittbunny

A more interesting wagon showed up.

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It is also cleansing.

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UK, are we going to see complaining from you all game? Because dead god I am going to go batshit insane midway through D1 switch between...oh wait. It all makes sense know. UK has a

shit

brown forum layout.

Maybe change it to something that DOESN'T cause a Kitten to cry.

Instead of railing on people.

I HAPPEN TO LIKE QUOTE STRIPES.

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Actually, the silver is blindingly bright, so I can't use that either. And MafTyger makes my eyes bleed.

And quote stripes are shit. They make a post look bigger even though it contains barely any content, they do the aforementioned color switching which is hard on the eyes, they tend to take things out of context, which is pretty damn bad (honestly, if you linked the post in question that you are quoting, I could probably almost forgive you), among the many other things I've probably gone on at length about how quote stripes suck.

I don't plan to bitch all game, but I've stated my case for the horridness of quote stripes. If I miss something because you've chosen to persist posting in such a manner, too
goddamn
bad.

Now, I'm not going to go out of my way to not read quote stripes, but I'm not going to go out of my way to read them either. Expect me to skim bullshit posts with lots of quote stripes. That's all that needs to be said.

How is that a bad thing?

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Oh wait, unless I stripe it, what I asked makes no sense.
Crazy.

they tend to take things out of context, which is pretty damn bad

How is that a bad thing?

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You misunderstand quote stripes. I'm talking about a post that has line after line after line of random sundry quotes and short one liner responses. One or two quotes doesn't suck. It kinda makes sense.

But longer posts will have more to respond to individually.
And can be better responded to by the person reading the stripes.

As for taking things out of context...you WANT people to have a free ticket to misrep others? That's...kinda not good?

A tool in my bag of arsenal happens to include...GASP...attacking those that misrep, and take things out of context.

Therefor if someone is striping and using it to misrep, then attack them.
No stripes mean no opportunity.


Lets look at it from a different angle:

Bolding is ugly, and in my theme, bolding causes massive ugly brown streaks to run down my computer.
So people who are continuously voting and FOSing annoy me, and I need them to stop.
People shouldn't vote for anyone ever until it has been decided who the town is going to lynch, then everyone should then vote and only then.
That way the ugliness is minimized.

Because vote patterns and those who normally vote a lot or don't vote a lot certainly don't need any of that used against them.

You are trying to delude the game to a blander form of what it should be.

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Voting patterns still say Pittbunny is a good wagon.

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Yeah, so I think I'll drop my vote.

Unvote

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Why'd you go and do that now, SP? Don't like the reactions to a possible Pitt wagon?

Yeah.

Also votes are useless.

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Also votes are useless.

Meaning... you don't like voting patterns used for scum tells or that you just think the whole system is useless?

Yes.

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^
Ironic post is ironic.

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According to rule 3 I've never seen any of you before in my entire life.

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Rereads are better when nothing is quoted.

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Me too.

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In previous games I have observed scum keeping up "banter" longer than they should.

I enjoy banter.
It is a tool.

Why should I value the opinion of people who are wrong?

ITP UK doesn't value UK opinions.

And I never get lynched, not til D3 anyway.

This is a good reason for a lynchen.



I would like to know Cobalt's POV though for the first batch of UK posts that he commented on as her being scum.

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I dislike her interaction with pitt early on ("oh, you're a VI, you're making a lot of mistakes" etc). Reeks of coaching.

This, yes. Rest, no.

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Vote: forbiddanlight

Vote: Not Voting

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GAH. I can't do this.

Unvote
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Vote: CJMiller

I feel so naked without my vote.

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Day 1 is a crapshoot in regards to itself. Yes, you can try to go for a deep analysis of the players; however, none of us have provided particularly expositive comments to pick apart. Yes, you can make a claim despite brevity, but it won't be particularly effective.

HAAAAAAAH

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<3

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I'm taking it easy as the house of cards sets itself up.

Just biding my time.

*ACTIVE LURK*

*ACTIVE LURK*

*ACTIVE LURK*

I mean, this game, eh, its all there, I don't even have to try.

I mean, I could go and make a case or something, but really, its all there.

I'm not going to hold all your hands and tell you you all how to play the game.

Yet.

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You too Sociopath?

Because I can and its free.

Vote: xvart

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Unvote
Vote: llama

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This keeps getting better.

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I wonder if Mal did 2 scum groups of 2.
llama, who is your scum partner?
Pitt, who is YOUR scum partner?

I think I may know the answers, but I don't like answering questions for people when contained within this post.

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Goofing off?
Funny?
Excuse me.
Everything I do is serious.
My integrity shall not me undermined by the likes of you two.

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Wouldn't surprise me.

There are way too many scum in this game for it to be properly balanced.

IT IS LIKE I AM IN AN ALTERNATE REALITY OR SOMETHING.

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Also, I take your lack of response to mean that you decline to answer. Is this correct, SP?

I decline to answer any questions I either deem stupid, or unhelpful.
With this exception of this one.

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llama, who is your scum partner?

Twomz

Ooooooh.
Alright, that makes sense.
Thanks.

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You might think it's funny, but all it is is annoying.

Scumtell.

Oh and that plus this:

holy crap! I almost choked because I was laughing so hard! Srsly SP, you need to stop being such a funny guy!

LAL

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Eh, I saw that, problem is the numbers don't add up. 4/12

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Now, the fact that my statement went completely over your head...now THAT is SOMETHING.

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MAN I LOVE THIS GAME SO MUCH.

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You pushing votes is the problem.
LERN2NEUTRAL

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At least make better use of the D1 time you have left.

Well I've already caught all the scum, so how could it get any better?

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At least make better use of the D1 time you have left.

Well I've already caught all the scum, so how could it get any better?

You could kill them all? Although, wiping them out all at once would be kinda boring, don't ya think?

I suppose.
I DO like playing with my food before I eat it.
>:3

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YEAHHHHHHHH

I am disappoint.

You could have done so much better.

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SP probably knows that and will hopefully post seriously when there's actually reason to try to get a lynch together.

Don't be ridiculous.

Besides...

Too bad he was using all of the intelligence he was allotted for this game in this single post.

My post is up so now I must have a case of the dumb!

I'm glad that was pointed out to me in a straight up manner.

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There are warm bodies that just sit there and let the town realize they aren't scum, and then there are people who actively aid the town.

I caught you, didn't I?
Or does that credit go to someone else?
I certainly wasn't the first.

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But I'm hungry now, dammit.

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Vote: llama

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Craps, we overshot that by lots.

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But, excuse me if I haven't seen llamaeattaco ever have the Doublevoter with ADHD role and spent the entire time voting two of the three scum ^-^.

You know, I HAVE done more than just that.

If you want the most recent accessible sample where town loses because they didn't listen to me, try This One where I replace into it, read the game, and state 100% of the scum in the game, tying together the 2 scums, and also separating the third scum, which was the SK, before any SK kills even showed up.

...and then got killed because I was assumed to be a power role.

Appeal to THAT authority.

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If Jack is scum with Twomz and llama, that would be too stupidly obvious.
So I am going to discredit that train of thought of mine.
Jack, are you an SK by any chance?
Eh, that wouldn't make sense at all, given the context from others.


Also, the longer llama's posts get, the more scum he actually crams into them.
388 is a golden land mine of excellence.

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If you want some gold, ISO Jack, then ISO llama, then read Twomz's description of Jack and llama.

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Would you care to post some in depth analysis of everyone so far, just to make up for D1?

No thanks.

I do like that you asked though. It's cute.

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Well we already know that llama and Twomz are buddies.

So the Twomz, llama, and xvart is the OH SO ELUSIVE 3-man team in this game?

Sounds decent enough.

llama first though.
Then Twomz.
Path to success.

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I like vague accusations in that it makes scum squirm.
And squirmy scum is silly.

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STOP BUDDYING ME, SCUM.

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OMG OBV ROLEFISH

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I'm hungry for some SCUM, SCUM, SCUM, SCUM, SCUM, AND SCUM.

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What people (often scum) try and do when they say someone is vote hopping actually a very common scum tactic. You take a common scumtell that is referred to only by name (or better yet acronym). Then you find a townie who is doing something that sounds like it could be called that and accuse them of doing it. That way, you can have a reason for your vote on someone even if they aren't doing the actual scummy version of vote hopping (switching your suspicions around to keep on the more popular wagon).

IIoA

Vote: Jack

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Oh sorry, wouldn't want to disappoint.

Vote: llama

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Opt Out

For a good balance.

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Well that certainly leaves my choice feeling underwhelming if it was just a simple majority vote.

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Am I the only one that thinks nothing has changed?
I'm pretty sure that it was already allowed to quote role PMs as stated farther below as a game specific rule already in affect, or maybe I am just crazy.

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Right the only thing it changes is that "other mod pm's" other than role pm's can now be quoted.

OOOooooooh. Gotcha.
So I was crazy for a completely different reason.

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Oh. Well that is more certainly different.

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ITT Twomz is scared as balls.

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Why yes, Twomz IS in fact still scum.

Unvote
Vote: Twomz

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I'm starting to think that this was a bad idea...

Of course YOU would.

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Bah.

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Twomz painted himself so hard as scum with you.

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You and UK painted yourselves as scum together...

Have you played many games with Twomz prior?

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Jack: Seems to have a good head on his shoulders, but I can't really get a tell one way or another this early in the game.

Llama: Pretty much same as Jack.

This is too absurd to come from town.

>:O

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Also, llama is still a moron ^-^.

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Upon daybreak, I need to reanalyze everything.

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THANKS FOR THE HOT TIP, QUINCY.

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I AM IMPASSE

COBALT TOWN IS BEING EATEN BY NACHO SCUM

MOD SENT WRONG PM ME GUESS

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I AM FEELING A WAGON MADE OUT OF NACHOS.

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Oh man I remember that role, that was my fav role of the game.

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With a cult though, that might actually mean no mafias.

Just an SK.

That would explain why my reads are so screwed up.

Last game my reads were this dysfunctional was Crayola Mafia, where it was ONLY an SK.

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Also I highly doubt that the controlling of the player account would have been part of the role this game.

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The M in MC is likely Mind, not Molecular.
So the roles are likely different.

Also the death of Navy being singular seems off regardless.

Vote: xvart

This works for now.

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I hate you so much.

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The ability that I liked the most was upping the player count from 8 to 9 making a lynch of 5 needed compared to 4.

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I see no reason to reveal my abilities until Round 2, because I don't know most of them.

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His fakeclaim is taking forever, the mod should hurry up and finish writing it already.

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Not buying it, Quag.

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Quagmire has a terrible meta of not reading his own role PM.

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As of right now, I can't see xvart tied to anyone, his ISO was useless.

I have yet to read everyone else still alive though.
I have a few suspicions as to who might be though given a few other peoples' ISOs.

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I see no reason to reveal my abilities until Round 2, because I don't know most of them.

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I see not your point. I lie. Often, in fact. Gonna lynch me now?

You were already lynched for being scum.
You came back and are being as useless as ever.
Generally claims come around L-1.
You are are L+2+.
So yes, you are both useless and your existence is pointless.

Feel free to go die.

Vote: Pittbunny

All of this non-killing is giving us extra days to burn.

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Holy crap, your ISO is like all fluff

THEMS IS FIGHTIN WORDS

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No one thinks pitt is

scum

mafia.

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Read the game.

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I don't care to hear a PB wincon.
If PB had originally stated it, and it including "doesn't count as a blablabla" I would have gladly let PB live after the first lynch.

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Glorious Scumhunting.

Wat.

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CJ should be banned from using the word "scumhunting" in general.

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Calling out active lurking in twilight is silly.

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UK may or may not be scummy, but I would still not like to see her live to the end game.

But apparently she has a super-duper confirmable role, so whatevs.

In fact, I wouldn't mind if most of the remaining players died.

SCORCHED EARTH.

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Eh.

Massclaim? Eh, I guess.

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*Sits back and eats popcorn.*

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This is getting good.
Will wait for claimings to be done before I have my fun.

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UK is being silly.

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Let Us Just Wait For Llama.
Cause I want to join in on all this fun too ^-^.

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Prepare for disappointment, the claim isn't the fun part.

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What is a full claim without night choices?

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That answers that, llama is scum.

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That answers that, llama is scum.

Claim please, it's your turn.

You shut your face.
That is not the issue at hand here.

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Well my claim is Vee Tee, the VTer, I VT things.
K I CLAIMED, HAPPY?

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By the way, CMAR is probably scum.
Llama is his partner.

This is true.

Also UK is scum. ;o

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Anyway, who should claim next, SP?

This is silly.

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To be clear, we'd like you to quote your role PM, SP.

My role should be obvious at this point.

BONUS POINTS FOR THOSE THAT CAN GUESS IT.

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COME ON, SOMEONE GUESS.

ITLL GIVE ME IDEAS TO WRITE UP WHILE

FAKE

CLAIMING.

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LLAMASCUM: Claimed night action with no results; no clue about own role.
CMARSCUM: Claimed daykills with no daykills.
SUKM: Pissed cause mod gave her a crappy fakeclaim that didn't line up with the accual game roles.

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I'm saying those are the possible scums.

And forcing a NL wouldn't garentee a scums win with a game full of power roles.

I've been in a game where the day was 4 people alive, with 2 scums, if you do recall.

They didn't force a NL. ;o

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After successfully removing the threat of GUILT (twice!) you decide to take a vacation in the Bahamas. On a hunch, you decide to to bring some surgical equipment with you(you never know if someone could get hurt...).During the flight, you hear a wooshing sound and look back to see a huge tear in the plane. Before you can even think why this is happening, the plane just rips in half. As a result of the pressure loss, you get sucked out of the plane, and get knocked out after hitting your head on part of the fuselage. When you wake up, you find yourself in a weird a new area (with your suitcase full of supplies) with a ton of other disoriented people. Maybe your surgery skills can come in handy in here....

You are

Derek Stiles

, Townie Doctor (from Trauma Center: Under the Knife). Your abilities are:

Active Abilities:
Surgery: You may target a person, preventing that person from dieing due to a kill.

Win Condition: You win if pro-town forces are the only ones left.

DERP DERP.

N1: Cobalt
N2: Kairyuu
N3: Jack
N4: Nacho

GJ SKUM, YA FINALLY FOUND MEH.

TOO LATE THOUGH. TOWN CANNOT LOSE.

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ALRIGHT, HERE IS THE PLAN:

STEP 1: LYNCH LLAMA
STEP 2: HIDER DOESN'T HIDE; THAT IS STUPID.
STEP 3: I GET NK'D
STEP 4: DAYKILL UK
STEP 5: NO DAYKILL? LYNCH LIAR.
STEP 6: ???
STEP 7: PROFIT!

GG

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This does not explain why CJ is alive.

I kinda hoped it would.

This is not a good thing.

Why would he not be?

Who is claiming next, SP?

Who do you think.

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Also last night was annoying.

After a successful Jack protect N3, I should have just kept the confirmed townie safe.

But I figured that since scum at that point knew a doc was foiling their plans, that they would go doc hunting.

Also Nacho was the only one who really wasn't having suscpicion thrown at him. So bla.

IN CONCLUSION I LET JACK DOWN AND ITS BEEN CRAPPING ON MY DAY ALL DAY TODAY.

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But I figured that since scum at that point knew a doc was foiling their plans, that they would go doc hunting.

Also they would obviously target him because they thought he was lying about his RBing being a one shot.

Which is why he was targeted N3.

But scum SHOULD HAVE ALSO FIGURED OUT THERE WAS A DOC, AND THEIR KILL NOT BLOCKED BY JACK BECAUSE HE WOULD HAVE STATED WHO HE BLOCKED, AND THAT SCUM WOULD HAVE BEEN DEAD.

STUPID SCUM SCREWING UP MY PLANS.

DUH, IF IT WAS JACK SCREWING YOU UP, THEN HE WOULD KNOW WHO WAS DOING THE KILL.

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Also, if you don't remember, I SHOT CJ N1, AND IT DID NOT WORK!

The answer to that is easy, you're lying scum. ;o

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SQUIRM AND F(L)AIL, SKUM. XD

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And Nacho's role should be obvious at this point as well, for those keeping score.

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Socio for lying.

About?

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Your doc protects. If you are even a doctor.

Explain N3.

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Note: UK normally goes along with what I say, even more so when plans of action greatly increase towns chance of winning.

Post claims UK sees me as a super threat, and is throwing as much mud at me as she can.

She was already frustrated with her fakeclaim, now she is frustrated with finding out the doc is ME of all people.

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N3 would have been the night that Jack blocked xvart. Who was scum. Or did you forget this?

xvart was lynched D3.
Or did you forget this?

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Jack blocked xvart.

Thanks for verifying this though.

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Also, SP, um...I'm pretty much confirmed unless Nacho counterclaims me.

Except I am pretty sure I know what Nacho is going to claim. (NO PRESSURE)

In which case you lynch me, then him, and town wins.

Since, you know, no one else has claimed mason.

Except in an alternate-type reality masons might not neccesarily be confirmed.
Some people even hate the use of the word neighbors.
Some people have inspired games like this.


But with the plan, its failproof:
Llama dies for rolefail, flip reveals his role.
I get NK'd, revealing my role.
CMAR shoots you, revealing his role.
You die, revealing your role.

Town still has 3 people to lynch CJ, to reveal his role.
NO WAY CAN TOWN LOSE.

LYLO will look like:
CMAR
CJ
Nacho

Any hiccups will just out scum anyways.

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Oh, well shit, that isn't the role I thought he would claim.

Also I think I see something.

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That and your lack of targets.

You claim that you knew Pitt was looking for you.

You knew that he was around N3.

Pitt never died but from lynches.

EXPLAIN THAT ONE, ACE.

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Also if UK is scum, her role is likely Scum Inventor.

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Except I'm confirmed at this point :V.

No yer not. :U

Besides, what are you sweating about, your death happens after 3 other roles are confirmed.

And of course Jack thought you were town, gave him a 1shot RB that he got scum with. ;o

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PLAN:

1. LYNCH LLAMA
2. NO HIDE
3. I DIE
4. SHOOT UK
5. LYNCH CJ

Assuming 2 scum total, (even with 3 things are fine.):

LLAMASCUM: GOOD. HE IS FIRST DEAD ANYWAYS
And game is over! TOWN WINS. If not, continue with plan.

CMARSCUM: UK lives in the day, we still have 4 people, CMAR gets lynched.
And game is over! TOWN WINS.

CJSCUM: WE ARE LYNCHING HIM ANYWAYS TOMORROW. GG TOWN WINS.

SUKM: Getting shot. TOWN WINS.

NACHOSCUM: If everything everyone said is true, and everyone is town, then this result is impossible. We already have conflicting stories.

SOCIOSCUM: TOMORROW STARTS WITH 5 PEOPLE. IE. NOT LYLO. PLAN CONTINUES...GET AN EXTRA DAY TO LYNCH ME. TOWN WINS.

And considering the entire town at this point is NKABLE, I am the only choice for the scumkill.
SCUM WOULD BE STUPID TO LEAVE ME ALIVE FOR WIFOM REASONS.


SERIOUSLY, SOMEONE TRY TO POKE HOLES IN MY PLAN. I WELCOME YOU TO TRY.

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Given the claims, I am actually pretty sure llama is town. So, he's probably a good protection.

Except Llama is getting lynched today.

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That is, unless you want to take his place, UK.

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Why is llama getting lynched today?

Claimfail.

He HAS to be town unless there are two scum.

Why?

It'd be STUPID, but whatever.

Stupid? It would out CJ, given your flip is true.

It we are lynching you instead, so you can keep your RBer alive, than I'll need to rework a few things.

Like CMAR shootng CJ instead, given your flip, or llama. and the lynch tomorrow will change as well.

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Also remember I am here for aaaaall of twilight, so everything will be concrete by morning, with the lynch flip cementing the win in.

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Wait, what happens if CMAR is killed?

Yes, scum can WIFOM that all they want though. ;p

But here is what the night looks like:

CJ ALIVE: NK PROOF.
NACHO ALIVE: NK PROOF.
CMAR ALIVE: NK PROOF.
LLAMA/UK ALIVE: YES. DO ME THE FAVOR AND SAVE CMARS KILL FOR SOMEONE ELSE.

SOCIO: DOC. WHO STOPS NKS. GEE, WIFOM THAT ONE, SCUM.

AS IF I WASNT A JUICY ENOUGH TARGET...I

AM

THE ONLY TARGET.

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CMAR isn't NK proof, where did you get that? However, his death would implicate you, as he's the ONLY kill that makes the plan fall apart.

DURP DURP, SINCE HE IS THE KEY TO TOMORROW, OF COURSE I WOULD PROTECT HIM, SCUM KNOWS THIS.

Seriously, even if there ARE 2 scum left, (you/llama), and the RBer lives and RBs me, and kills him...you REALLY think I didn't have a back up for THAT?

He has to be town because he demonstrated his role D2

This is dumb.

He showed he gave the town a choice to bla bla bla.
This doesn't prove alignment.
This doesn't say anything about the night actions.

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CJ isn't NKPROOF either, but SCUM understood what I was saying there.

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CJ being killed just saves us lynching him.

SUKM forgot CJCLAIM.

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No, what it proves is

HE COULD NOT HAVE ROLEBLOCKED OR REDIRECTED ME UNLESS HE HAS A WEIRD ASS ROLE

How?

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Choo choo

Vote: Llama

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Although there is no rush.

We have aaaaaaaaaaaalllllll weeeekend.

Mod is V/LA.

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I think you're fine to talk til the lynch.

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And he happened to save it until after I set up a plan to use such?

I don't think scum have a DK this game.

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CMAR was shooting UK.

UK's flip should show who to lynch in the LYLO.

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Oh wait, I'm dumb.

CMAR shoots Nacho.

Now plan is perfect.

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I know, I'm kidding.

He is worried that the order matters though, so he actually may need to be the one lynched.

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As uneasy as it makes me, I trust CJ more than Nacho at this point.

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Also for the unaware, if UK is scum, and when she gets shot, the game doesn't end, obviously you lynch Nacho.

I think that is what his problem is.

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Watch llama flip scum and all this planning just be stupid :V.

BLAME MY PLAYSTYLE.

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Um, none needed, it is pretty cut and dry.

The 3 in LYLO will be: CMAR, CJ, Nacho.

SUKM = lynch Nacho

UKTOWN = lynch CJ

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CJ, are you too stupid for words for a reason?

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Um, none needed, it is pretty cut and dry.

The 3 in LYLO will be: CMAR, CJ, Nacho.

SUKM = lynch Nacho

UKTOWN = lynch CJ

I don't understand the bold. Explain why it couldn't be CJ in that case please.

I suppose it could be the case.

Use your best judgement.

No pressure.

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Does that mean the guy we lynched is also getting modkilled because of miscommunication from UK?

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Why would llama be modkilled due to anything like that? What do I have to do with anything?

793
794
796

[SocioPath]

Oh right.

I had just assumed that was part of his original role PM from the mod.

Maybe he thought he was "quoting his role PM by including it" .

Either way, that just creates more work for ME.

[SocioPath]

Great, that means LYLO looks like:

UK
CJ
CMAR

with CMAR still having a shot.

Which means that the game is entirely in CMAR's hands. (As in he still has to shoot regardless or be lynched.)

Which means the whole UK+CJ= SCUM chance that was brought up earlier just means with a modkill, they win.

I'd still shoot UK over CJ at this point though, so take that for what it is worth.

[SocioPath]

Also if Nacho is scum, that points towards UK also being scum even more.

[SocioPath]

All that's left is I'm supposedly a scum mason, which is impossible, since that was mod confirmed townness.

Except not everyone sees masons as that.
Some people do not like the term "neighbor".

I know Tar is one of those people.

This mod is in the Tar fanclub.
As are you. (You might personally have different views, but should know of the other viewpoint.)

So until I see proof otherwise, I am not going to interpret Fate's mason buddy as confirmed town.

Why so?

His insistence of shooting CJ over you when the results would have been the same.

(SHOOT UK, LYNCH CJ)
(SHOOT CJ, LYNCH UK)

And clouding of The Plan, with the illusion of clarifying it.
Also the "confirmed town" rhetoric. (This an in-general statement.)

[SocioPath]

And you think the game won't be over if Nacho flips scum?

Everyone is scum until the game is over.

[SocioPath]

Honestly, I think that's more indicative of Nacho being scum with a bulletproof CJ, Socio. Think about it. By shooting CJ instead of me, that bullet has a chance of failing, just like mine did N1.

I can see that.

The problem is that % chance of a town win increases with my plan.

So if Nachoscum is with CJBPscum, I'll write that off as a loss now.

Because my plan rules out every other combination of scumteam with scum winning.


LYLO:

UK
CMAR
CJ

If you go, "oh CJ is BPscum" then you and CMAR lynch CJ.
That is 33% of a town win.

But CMAR goes and shoots UK.
That is 66% of a town win.
(CMAR can't shoot, cause scum...gets lynched.)
(UK is scum and gets shot.)

So, with modkill pending, the best numbers given one, are still using the same plan.

[SocioPath]

Metaing malt shows that he is paranoid about masons being town or not, so he is not one to assume mason=town from what I can tell.
( And they weren't only Tar games either. )

[SocioPath]

Metaing malt shows that he is paranoid about masons being town or not, so he is not one to assume mason=town from what I can tell.
( And they weren't only Tar games either. )

[SocioPath]

Either way, I would think, as scum, I'd at least claim Fate's flipped role.

Hence your frustration when you noticed that in your fake-claim.

Look. I am certain that, if 3p lylo occurs, CJ will be the scum in it. I can't give that up for a stupid plan. I HOPE CMAR can see where I'm coming from.

CMAR's point of view:
He has to either shoot, or be lynched.
You claim CJ is bulletproof, hence why he lived.

Two choices:
CMAR shoots BPCJ, CJ lives, CMAR didn't prove his role cause nothing went through, looks like scum, dies. Town loss.

CMAR shoots UK, proves roles, UK dies.

[SocioPath]

But he can say, that he helped town win to the best of his ability.

[SocioPath]

Ew.

Then CMARSCUM would win.

That drops the town winrate back to 33% even assuming both a kill and a lynch would happen.

(CMAR=scum, scum win.)
(UK=scum, scum win.)

[SocioPath]

Which is why NO VOTES HAPPEN UNTIL CMAR SHOOTS.

[SocioPath]

Well really, no votes would happen anyways.

After UK gets shot, the game would end regardless.


And this all assumes Nacho is getting the modkill.

If not then town win rate skyrockets.

[SocioPath]

How so? If scum is both shot and lynched, that would mean that there was again, a 66% chance of victory.

How do scum win if me scum is shot?

I would assume that the split second that a shot goes off, that the town number drops, and scum endgames the other.

Whether it was
kill
vote

scum would endgame.

or
vote
kill
the kill wouldn't go off.

It wouldn't hurt to ask the mod, that if, theorhetically that if a person kills, and then hammers after, in the same post, if both would count before scum has time to endgame, that would be an equally benificial scenario.

Cause then only CMARSCUM would be able to win.

[SocioPath]

CMAR should ask since I doubt malt would directly tell us.

Hence why I didn't ask.

[SocioPath]

But whatever, this stupid plan better start working.

It will after you are shot in the face.

The plan in motion already planned for this exact outcome if you do recall.

In fact, the only way you could win is NO KILL WIFOM.

[SocioPath]

I'm town, you see, and you've doomed us to fail.

...by coming up with a plan to make town's chances of winning the absolute highest.
And then doing to again.
And again, to compensate for all the other crap.


Keep in mind the lynch went through before the modkill happened.

I had no further way of planning around that, because I cannot see into the future.

[SocioPath]

Right. What I'm saying is YOUR PLAN DOES NOT WORK NOW.

We need to actually SCUMHUNT if we are going to win this. We can't just go with a power role interaction plan anymore.

But the thing is, you, CMAR, and CJ are all scummy as hell.

And your PM is the only one that doesn't line up.

[SocioPath]

The annoying thing is that the modkill offense happened before any votes were cast.

I would have assumed if modkill, then votecount reset...but oh well.

[SocioPath]

BullSHIT Socio. CJ's PM is ridiculous, and so is CMAR's.

But neither had frustrating role contradictions.

Though honestly? You wanna know who I think is scum? You, Socio.

Yaaaaay.

[SocioPath]

WE SHALL SEE AFTER I LIVE THROUGH THIS TWILIGHT ABOUT HOW SCUM I AM.

BWAHAHAHAHAHA.

TOO LATE NOW SUCKAS.

[SocioPath]

We will indeed.

In other news, the role PM contradiction isn't scummy at all though. It gives me no advantage as scum. Focusing on it just makes you stupid.

Except the whole town vig part. I HAVE REASON TO BELIEVE THAT PART IS FAKE. IN THE WAY IT IS NOT STANDARD ROLE FORMATTED.

Then there is the Fate thing.

[SocioPath]

But none of this matters anyways.

Fortunately you managed to survive after Ness's attack against your home. After your defeat, and Pokey abandonment, you come together with Cobra Commander, whom you continue towards your ultimate goal of conquering the universe with. Keeping the Commander close is your only way of maining a physical presense in this world. Everyone around you couldn't possibly understand what you are truly capable of, not even you....

You are

Giygas

, Mafia Super Being (from EarthBound). Your abilities are:

Factional Abilities:
Mafia: You are in the mafia with

Xvart

, Cobra Commander (from G.I. Joe).
Mafia Communication: You may day-talk here: [REDACTED]
Mafia Kill: Each night, you and your scum partner may decide on a player to kill.
Mafia Safeclaim: You know that Andy (from Advance Wars) is not in the game, and is therefore safe to claim.
Mafia Falseclaim: At any time during the game, you may send me a role name and a list of abilities and I will construct you a PM with the given specifications.

Passive Abilities:
Immeasurable Power: You are immune to all kills.

Active Abilities:
Devil's Machine: [REACTED]

Win Condition: You win when the mafia composes the majority of the living players at anytime, or nothing can prevent the same.

And this is why I shall win.
Don't worry, I won't give away what my active ability is though.

[SocioPath]

Wellp, at least I called that part, even if it was too late.

Well luckily no one caught that 'dying' was spelled as 'dieing' in the doctor PM.

[SocioPath]

Oh yeah, do you have any idea why CJ didn't die?

Everything will be revealed after the game is over.

[SocioPath]

Ah. Yeah, fuck you Malt.

Fuck you malt, forever.

This.

I stared at this game for over an hour with the thread being locked.

Then I go away, and everything happens.

Not that it matters.

I was somehow SILENCED.
FOR WHATEVER REASON.



Hate me all you want for claiming scum though, UK.

You know how hard it is for a claimed DOC to survive a night?

I contructed that rolePM all myself.
Obviously I was silenced because the mod knew that the truth would come out and I would obviously say I wasn't scum.

GUESS WHAT.
READ THE ROLE.
I breadcrumbed in it that it wasn't real.
Reread the flavor text.
Read the first letter of every sentence in the flavor.

[SocioPath]

Still, no, claiming scum is pretty fucking bad, especially when your survival was actually not that fucking helpful.

I was a doctor, if I am not the target, I have a chance at blocking the kill.

Or that scum would have not killed, because of my scumclaim.

The goal wasn't to keep myself alive, it was a 4 player start of the day.
Which wouldn't have meant an instant loss when CMAR pulled the trigger.

[SocioPath]

Since your plan was still bad not accounting for CMAR as much as it should.

Really, if you think about it, it was down to:

Outguessing the mod for scum having a late game daykill

or

Outguessing the mod with the term "mason"

Even in your QT you SAID there was no confirmedness.



4 players today, with CMAR shooting you...you popping up NOT as your role, but as a crazy, really would have changed the endgame entirely.

All I can say is:

FUCKING MODKILL.

RESET VOTECOUNTS.

YOU CANNOT HAVE A MODKILLABLE OFFENSE,
AND THEN NOTHING DONE,
AND THEN THE TOWN LYNCH SOMEONE,
AND THEN AFTERWORDS ACT LIKE THEY HAPPENED AT THE SAME TIME.

[SocioPath]

How about I just defer your punishment to Malt and Nacho and call it a night?

Sure.
And with your death, the game would have been blown wide open.

Nacho dying wasn't the worst part, it was the fact that what caused it happened before any votes were dropped.
And yet we were all punished.

[SocioPath]

Also worth noting is UK's
'CMAR'S SHOT DOESN'T PROVE ANYTHING'
and yet
'LLAMA IS TOWN CAUSE HE PROVED HIS ROLE'



Who actually took advantage of the multiple actions?
...ohthatsrightscum.

OPT OUT x100


Also N3/N4 make me sad.

I did not get a single successful protect.
And I didn't confirm town either as I thought.

[SocioPath]

Also, I might add that massclaims rarely help in games like this.

Just sayin'...

This would mean more coming from someone who didn't change the endgame by being modkilled.


Especially when this was the rosetta stone:

UncertainKitten, Andrew Laeddis, Insane Mason Vig (from Shutter Island)

collapsed on Day 5.

and wasn't discovered until too late due to modkill.

[SocioPath]

The only shenanigans I take issue with from a game perspective, is the modkill/lynch handling.
(And maybe the 2 (3?...4?) different scum sides. Easy to ignore because they weren't a real issue.
But seriously...mafia...cult...pseudolyncherSK...lyncher...etc...town didn't have much of a chance.)

Everything else was the town fuuuuuuuuuucking the town.

I could make a list every how every town player doomed us.

Whether its blatantly encouraging lies (UK should be pissed at her buddies more than the mod ), or wasting several days of lynches because of passiveness.

[SocioPath]

What Jack said.

Socio I'd like to hear how Jack and I fucked town over because we were pretty obv MVPs hence why we were NKed

@Socio: They HAD to lie to be because Lovely Malt set it up so being told my situation would make me a lyncher, yet ANOTHER third party.

There is a difference between not telling you...and what they did.
Also leaving out an important factor: you figuring it out AFTER they were already dead.
And no where does it say that anything happens if you figure out your gun doesn't work.
Not to hard even in the overtly unneeded tone of text used:
"SOLDIER, I THINK YOU OUT OF BULLETS."

Besides Fate/Jack didn't know you would turn into a lyncher.
And as a lyncher you would have likely won anyways.

If they DID tell you, and you became a lyncher, that would have completely changed the endgame entirely.

In fact, the WHOLE ISSUES with the endgame was UK vs. CJ.
It revolved around THAT.

GOOD JOB COSTING US THE GAME.
But no, UK gets angry at everyone else.