921 Space Quest Mafia (officially Mod Abandoned)

[Zang]

I never heard of it before this game either.

And yes, I have played with thebuttonmen and MordyS before. (and my avatar is from Doom not space quest)

[Zang]

I'm not sure which Space Quest exactly this one is based upon

I think it's the the Sarien Encounter (the first game)

[Zang]

Like I said, I have never played it before, all the expierence I have is reading the space quest article on wikipedia.

[Zang]

Town: DDD

Before I forget: What is everyones experiance with SpaceQuest before? I know a few of you already answered but i want everyone to answer. I myself have played a demo of the first game and thats pretty much it I'm afraid to say

I've played a little of the early games and most of Space Quest 6: The Spinal Frontier (I'm a master at Super Stooge Fighter 3 [

See that, hit that

]).

Really? I could never win without cheating.
Scum: Mordy
Spambot

Vote: Spambot

why?

[Zang]

vote:ortolan

were waiting for an explaination

[Zang]

Ok, like Sajin said I will have limited access for about a week but I will try to get on when I can.

Welcome pwnman

and Ortolan seems very scummy to me, and the only explination he gave was that it is a gut feeling, it's fine to have gut feelings but you should not base your vote entirely off them. So I'm keeping my vote on him.

[Zang]

Unvote, Vote: ksen

His scumlist looks like he just read the wiki for the first time and applied what he saw there without any thought. I'm going to assume he's slightly smarter than dramonic and that he's capable of some critical thought. The fact that he didn't use any suggests scum to me.

why is it bad to use the wiki?

[Zang]

But then the town won't get to hear others opinions of who scum is too... Besides, it's really not that hard for the scum to pick out the most townie player themselves.

I agree, it is important for town to hear eachothers opinions and scum can tell most town and most (seemingly) scummy based on vote patterns and general post content.

[Zang]

I'm keeping my vote on him, if he was pressured to replace out then there is something wierd about him.

[Zang]

welcome Malthusis!

[Zang]

Agreeded,

Vote: Ksen

What's the case against him?

there is none or at least not a good one


I see nothing particularly scummy about him. But basically ksen gave his reads and everybody (ddd and thebuttonmen) started freaking out and voting for him because he's a newb. Then they said that he was scummy because he was asking people for their reads which I don't see anything wrong with.

So, I will start today with a

vote: Debonair Danny DiPietro

[Zang]

Unvote, Vote: ksen

His scumlist looks like he just read the wiki for the first time and applied what he saw there without any thought. I'm going to assume he's slightly smarter than dramonic and that he's capable of some critical thought. The fact that he didn't use any suggests scum to me.

newb vote

Vote: Ksen: For the defensive play style and continually asking people what their reads are.

asking for reads vote

[Zang]

Reading comprehension fail.
That isn't a newb vote, and you said I voted him for giving his reads.

I meant it the other way around.

And it is a newb vote,

His scumlist looks like he just read the wiki for the first time

[Zang]

Agreeded,

Vote: Ksen

What's the case against him?

there is none or at least not a good one


I see nothing particularly scummy about him. But basically ksen gave his reads and everybody (ddd and thebuttonmen) started freaking out and voting for him because he's a newb. Then they said that he was scummy because he was asking people for their reads which I don't see anything wrong with.

So, I will start today with a

vote: Debonair Danny DiPietro

rawr-rawr, chainsaw, rawr-rawr

Vote: Ksen

This is a goood wagon.

I have no idea what you are saying

Also keep reading the rest of that quote. Its the opposite of a newb vote.

It is still a newb vote

[Zang]

I'll be nice to Zang, my vote on ksen wasn't because he was a noob, but because his analysis showed a distinct lack of critical thought. Now you could suggest this is because he's a noob, but given I've seen noobs who don't have that problem and veterans who make the same mistake I don't think that argument holds up.

ok, now I see what you are saying, but I still do not think he is scum or at least not scum enough to vote for.

Nyet. Stop being lazytown, go re-read.

I'm not the only lazytown, all you did was argue with me. While ddd pointed gave an actual explaination to actually prove me wrong.

[Zang]

On a unrelated note: Does anyone notice that the first post has changed to Space Quest 2 now?

nope but thanks for pointing it out, looks like Theres a new picture from each episode for every day.

[Zang]

Are we really going to get anywhere with a "Nuh-uh" "Ya-huh!" Arguement? I would like to see an explaination from both of you about wy you think it is.isn't a newb vote.

I think I pointed that out in my previous post

all you did was argue with me. While ddd pointed gave an actual explaination to actually prove me wrong

but based on the wording of the vote I thought it was a newb vote saying that he is scum because he used the wiki for his scum reads but I understood it when it was explained that it was his lack of critical thinking.

[Zang]

I don't see it. The only thing I saw from you explaining it was this: "I see nothing particularly scummy about him. But basically ksen gave his reads and everybody (ddd and thebuttonmen) started freaking out and voting for him because he's a newb. Then they said that he was scummy because he was asking people for their reads which I don't see anything wrong with. " Which from buttonmen's post, is not why he voted him.

I meant post 200

So do you still think it is a newb vote?

no

[Zang]

So do you still think it is a newb vote?

no

You voted me for it being a noob vote; you now recognize it was not a noob vote, which begs the question, why are you voting for me?

I didn't just vote for you because it was a newb vote, that was just a minor detail. I also voted for you because you thought that asking people for their reads is scummy which I still do not believe at all.

[Zang]

I didn't just vote for you because it was a newb vote, that was just a minor detail. I also voted for you because you thought that asking people for their reads is scummy which I still do not believe at all.

So the only reason you're voting him is because he has differant beleifs then you? While I do agree that saying that asking for reads is scummy is scummy itself, it is definately not enough alone to vote someone.

no not because he has different views but because he voted for someone because he was doing something that is actually pretty town. And as I said it was not the only reason

[Zang]

Other reasons-

1.Overreacting

2.newb vote

[Zang]

No, it's not another reason, it was the same one. You asked for the reasons for the vote and that was one if the original reasons for the vote.

He was overreacting when was voting for him

[Zang]

Fine,

Unvote

[Zang]

Zangs a silly person.

1. He says a vote is a noob vote.
2. He takes back the statement when he learned the reason for it
3. Somewhere along the line he thinks it's a noob vote again

wtf

Right now I am feeling a mixture of both utter confusion and pure amusement.

i was giving the reasons for the vote, a nesb vote was one of the initial reasons for why I voted for him although it now does not apply. This is one of the reasons why I unvoted him.

[Zang]

Well now we know that pwnman is a doublevoter

Wether he's town or scum though we still can't tell.

he didn't have it yesterday so like tbm said, he must have got it in the night.

[Zang]

16) Flavor is flavor. It does not indicate one way or the other about the presence or absence of characters from the game.

There could be anyother killing role and you already said that in the beggining of day 2.

[Zang]

Buttonmen isn't using that as part of his argument, he his using the "people who comment on night kills are scum" tell. (I'm too lazy to look it up on the wiki).

That's a scumtell now?

well it doesn't really help the town



And I believe that talking about pwnmans alignment in relation to him having a doublevote is just as useless as talking about whether we have a SK or vig entirely based off the night kill.

[Zang]

Well...this game is in a rut

[Zang]

Will be V/LA from tomorow til mid Sunday

I will try to post later today though

[Zang]

We have a week until the deadline hits. Here's a question I'll post to everybody (especially to our newcomer, Kairyuu): Who are your 1st and 2nd picks for a lynch today?

thebuttonmen and either ddd or spambot but I'm leaning ddd. Will explain after V/LA.

[Zang]

I'm back, will post later

[Zang]

Ok,

first I will go along with a ddd or tbm lynch.

Vote: DDD

that's a wagon I don't mind leaning on.

I don't understand this vote, until now you have agreed with ddd on almost everything, what made you think he was scum.

Also, I'm sorry to break all of you guys hearts but I don't really think DDD is town. Even though he's done some things I've disagreed with I think that his intentions were good. I do think however, he could be taking this game a bit more seriously. His playstyle in this game might not be the best but I think there are better choices for a lynch.

I'm guessing this was a typo

Vote: Kairyuu

Obvious ploy is obvious; you come in, (attempt to) lynch the one competent player who knows you leaving you to cruelly bat around the lurkers and Village Idiots as you coast to an easy scum win in the next couple days.

I shouldn't have to point out how laughably bad your main argument is; you saw me as abrasive as a JESTER, as in trying to get lynched; so now when you see me as abrasive as being a scumtell? Completely illogical.

I see this as an OMGUS vote and nothing more


Kairyuu-I believe your case and it is quite compelling

Vote: DDD

@Dramonic: While I understand the vote on Zang I would recommend you do some meta on him. He isn't doing anything other than normal Zang behaviour, the wishy washy and general agreeing with majority are a prevalent theme.

sad but true

[Zang]

unvote
work on that.

What does this mean?

What makes you think I following DDD?

LOL?

And also, I too, now that Zang and ksen brought it up, would like to know the reasons for your (buttonmen) vote on DDD.

dramonic was talking about my playstyle I think,

[Zang]

What makes you think I following DDD?

LOL?

Answer the question, preferably with quotes.

he already did

An good example is quite obviously buttonmen: he has mainly just been a follower, using other people ideas on what may turn out to be a quick wagon (first he followed DDD on ksen and now kai and zang on DDD) and, as kai stated, when he did give his own ideas and vote for pwnman, heused horrible logic that barely held together. he has also refused to answer and reply to a lot of things about him.

[Zang]

I don't see why it matters who answers the question, it was even originally directed at ksen.

[Zang]

In the future don't answer question directed at other people during a game unless it's a question with a objective answer.

I will remember that but I didn't really answer it, I just showed you that it was already answered.

[Zang]

PBPA? Ewwwww.

He asked for it. Besides. I'm rusty at wallposts and I need some way to get back to them.

I did no such thing; I merely shredded your pathetic excuse for a case and since you can't argue the truth you're going to try to make as much noise as possible to obscure that fact.

Oh and here I'll toss this out so you can save yourself sometime anyways; I'm not getting lynched, you may get me to L-1 but all those votes will then quickly disappear. If you want to save face you could start "hunting for my scum partners" (of which there are none, but I digress) and attempt to hurt the town in a different way, scum.

why won't you get lynched?

[Zang]

You still haven't answered the question about why you voted for ddd.

[Zang]

Are you planning to?

[Zang]

and why not?

[Zang]

I don't think he has a reason, he's just going with the majority (the irony although unintennded is extremely humorous)

Unvote; Vote:Thebuttonmen

[Zang]

Kaiyruu has two votes though and he was in the top two scum picks of others.

And if that wasn't your reason what is?

[Zang]

I consider it a majority because it had the most votes

it was obvious that others would soon vote for him

[Zang]

What I consider to be the definition of a majority is of little importance at this moment what I do believe to be important Is that you still haven't answered the question of why you voted for ddd.

[Zang]

What are you saying?

[Zang]

Squirming? Back that up brohiem, make a case, use quotes, go nuts!

Why should he? You didn't with your DDD vote

[Zang]

Welcome

[Zang]

Have you read the last few pages? I'm pretty sure it won't put him at L-1

[Zang]

Tbms 24 hours are up in 10 minutes and I don't think we're going to get a post. And kairyuu is right, DDD dies Tom.

[Zang]

Majority following?

I believe that I was the second person to voe for you.

[Zang]

Unvote, Vote:Debonair Danny DiPietro

I'd rather it be tbm after his refusal to answer the question about his vote on ddd but I'm still fine with a ddd lynch and hopefully kairyuu will survive the night.

[Zang]

I would like to continue.

[Zang]

Ok, who's the mafia?

[Zang]

To clarify: My double vote was temporary and given by an unknown source N1.

Your welcome

[Zang]

I was Cliffy the town inventor! I had three inventions-Doublevoter, coward and investigation.

Night 1 I gave pwnman/kairyuu doublevoter

and night two I gave him coward , hoping that he would know that I did that's why I said "I wouldn't worry about you being killed."

night 3 I would have given investigate to doombunny

[Zang]

He would flee the town for the night and nothing that targeted him would work.

[Zang]

I was scum guys

who else was?

[Zang]

I still can't believe DDD was town

[Zang]

I cant believe that either