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Its not that hes asking for reasons for votes, he is wanting people to lay out scum lists. Also note what he did when I voted for him, immediatly tried to portray it as OMGUS. When I say defensive I'm referring to things like that.Routine day with a dirt cheap brush
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Spambot wrote: It isn't scummy to ask people for their reads
At this point in the game asking multiple people to make scum lists is something I find scummy.
Spambot wrote:Seriously, over defensive is more than likely to be a scared newbie townie then retarded newbie scum. At worst, it's usually a non-tell. I actually think ksen calling everybody on OMGUS is because he's super paranoid town.
He's not newbtown, he's been playing twice as long as I have.Routine day with a dirt cheap brush
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I'm of the opinion that it helps scum more then town at this point in the day, as it helps scum see who is putting forward a viewpoint they like vs who's putting forth one that's more disadventagus to scum. Thus allowing them to steer debate/kills more effectivly. I say at this point in the game as the more the game progresses the more information town has to work, thus gets more out of the publicly debating their reads on everyone and scum can already tell who the best kills are.
Tldr version: I feel that with the amount of content generated so far scum gets more out of every posting their scum reads then town does. Thus I feel that it's best to only explain things such as votes at the moment.Routine day with a dirt cheap brush
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Because it's a question that adds nothing relevant to the discussion except add another layer of WIFOM. To me anti-town = scummy, he is aggressivly pushing something I find to be anti-town, thus I find it scummy.Doombunny9 wrote:And @buttonmen- You ignored spampbots question- Why is it scummy and not just a townie playing badly and why refuse to answer the question?Routine day with a dirt cheap brush
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Sorry, I won't have an arugument that is 100% speculation / WIFOM. I already made my feeling on the matter clear.Spambot wrote:
You ignored my question. Answer that.TheButtonmen wrote:@Spambot:How did you know Ksen was a newb? His join date doesn't suggest it and the view all posts by player button doesn't work.
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Why are you so concerned about the votes on you? I've seen you get bandwaggoned before with out becoming a lurker.ortolan wrote:prodded, will post tomorrow. Being wagoned for little other than perceived difference in playstyles kills the motivation for me.Routine day with a dirt cheap brush
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No, its a prima dona I'm taking my ball and going home admission. Unfourtunatly both factions can be overly sensitive whiners.pwnman wrote:He voted himself. That seems like a scum admission thereRoutine day with a dirt cheap brush
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The video replaced out.ortolan wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=At6j9jnqKs4TheButtonmen wrote:
No, its a prima dona I'm taking my ball and going home admission. Unfourtunatly both factions can be overly sensitive whiners.pwnman wrote:He voted himself. That seems like a scum admission thereRoutine day with a dirt cheap brush
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Enough with the speculation regarding SK for now I think. Todays been entirely people welcoming Malt and agreeing it's an SK. It's much easier to look for associative tells from mafia rather then SK hunting.
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Have you read D1 yet? It's quite short and I'd much rather you read it before people start quoting / refrencing parts of it. Fresh mind and all that jazz.Routine day with a dirt cheap brush
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I meant before I refrenced / quoted portions of it, that wasn't a dig at you.malthusis wrote:
Where was I referencing anything? I referenced the post before mine? :roll:TheButtonmen wrote:Have you read D1 yet? It's quite short and I'd much rather you read it before people start quoting / refrencing parts of it. Fresh mind and all that jazz.Routine day with a dirt cheap brush
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All talk creates bias. As for the second part no idea, thats why I asked.ksen wrote: And why do you use the term "bias?" Do you consider town talk an effort of creating bias?
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ITT we learn Zang doesn't read the game.Zang wrote:But basically ksen gave his reads and everybody (ddd and thebuttonmen) started freaking out and voting for him because he's a newb.
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You meant the opposite of what you typed... Forgive me for misunderstanding you.
Also keep reading the rest of that quote. Its the opposite of a newb vote.Routine day with a dirt cheap brush
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Links please.pwnman wrote: 2) I have been bandwagon lynched 5 times before and couldn't even claim before I was lynched because it happened while I was at schoolRoutine day with a dirt cheap brush
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@Doombunny:Could you get a avatar, helps with reading. It's not a noob vote as it was because of the ideas he's pushing and methodology he is using, not his experiance, now you could argue his pushing anti-town behaviour because he lacks the experiance to know better. But that arugment goes no where as its basically requires lots of speculation and WIFOM.Routine day with a dirt cheap brush
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Uh Huh? I present the vote Zang is talking about.Zang wrote:
but based on the wording of the vote I thought it was a newb vote saying that he is scum because he used the wiki for his scum reads but I understood it when it was explained that it was his lack of critical thinking.all you did was argue with me. While ddd pointed gave an actual explaination to actually prove me wrong
Now who here needs additional demonstration to illustrate my "ITT We learn that Zang doesn't read the thread" claim.Debonair Danny DiPietro wrote:Unvote, Vote: ksen
His scumlist looks like he just read the wiki for the first time and applied what he saw there without any thought. I'm going to assume he's slightly smarter than dramonic and that he's capable of some critical thought. The fact that he didn't use any suggests scum to me.Routine day with a dirt cheap brush
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First off, I freely admit to bandwagoning D1, D1 I will bandwagon anything that moves to get competing bandwagons going, as wagons help town. Secondly can you back that up by showing quotes with me stopping town from talking?ksen wrote:This is the second day in a row that theButtonmen has jumped on a bandwagon. His posts so far have been about stopping town from talking and I find that behavior if not scummy then at least anti-town.
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Links please.pwnman wrote: 2) I have been bandwagon lynched 5 times before and couldn't even claim before I was lynched because it happened while I was at schoolRoutine day with a dirt cheap brush
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Read the posts you link, I wasn't stopping the town from talking. I was refusing to answer your requests for everyone to post scum lists. And damn straight I would rather the replacment read for themselves before being biased by peoples cases.Routine day with a dirt cheap brush
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Whats the other reason(s)?Zang wrote: no not because he has different views but because he voted for someone because he was doing something that is actually pretty town. And as I said it was not the only reasonRoutine day with a dirt cheap brush
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1. Quote DDD overreacting.
2. Your first reason was newb voting then you said but theres other reasons, now your saying the other reason is newb vote. That doesn't make sense.Routine day with a dirt cheap brush
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Better question; Spambot why aren't you posting?
In the last two weeks you've posted this,
There was ONE replacment; So tell me in those two weeks have you figured out who Malthusis is replacing yet?Spambot wrote:I have no idea who is who after all these replacements.Routine day with a dirt cheap brush
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Was the first post of the day, it's by pwnman and he's speculating that there's a SK. Why jump to SK? Now we learn he became a double voter over night. All this when combined with his play so far makes me think somethings fishy.pwnman wrote:Double night kill....SK maybe?
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TheButtonmen wrote:
Still waiting.TheButtonmen wrote:
Links please.pwnman wrote: 2) I have been bandwagon lynched 5 times before and couldn't even claim before I was lynched because it happened while I was at schoolRoutine day with a dirt cheap brush
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Vote: DDDthat's a wagon I don't mind leaning on.
@Kairyuu:Forced case?
@Dramonic:While I understand the vote on Zang I would recommend you do some meta on him. He isn't doing anything other then normal Zang behaviour, the wishy washy and general agreeing with majority are a prevalent theme.Routine day with a dirt cheap brush
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The post your referring to:
Let's break down the two things you mention;TheButtonmen wrote:
Was the first post of the day, it's by pwnman and he's speculating that there's a SK. Why jump to SK? Now we learn he became a double voter over night. All this when combined with his play so far makes me think somethings fishy.pwnman wrote:Double night kill....SK maybe?
Unvote; Vote: Pwnman.
He starts day two by talking about a SK; why assume SK?
A) Vigs are much more common then SK's when combined with; B) Pwnman has never played in a game with a SK this really caught my attention.
The fact that he is suddenly a double voter, I agree its not a scum tell (though your claim it was given to you makes me scratch my head, who would think giving Pwnman another vote was a good use of their power?) it is however another oddity which caught my eye.
And while no I'm not going to swear them I'm 100% sure your scum, the above combined with previous play made me more then happy with a vote on your slot.Routine day with a dirt cheap brush
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@Doom:Hence I said Made.
@Kairyuu:The other two who made noise about the SK I seem to recall have been in games with SK's.
Though I just went back and looked and found this;
Doombunny9 wrote:Secondly, I think it's fairly obvious that a SK is behind the second kill. And... That's pretty much all I have to say for now :P@Doom:'splainy?Routine day with a dirt cheap brush
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What makes you think I following DDD?ksen wrote:@TheButtonmen: TheButtonmen, what changed your mind about DDD? On Day 1 and through most of Day 2 you were happy to follow his lead.Routine day with a dirt cheap brush
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