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Umu...you guys are scary!
I...I'll confirm if Kai gives me a restraining order on DT of at least 3 posts.
Sorry, my juristiction only allows restraining orders of at maximum 2 posts. That good enough for you?"Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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No, it just means all of your posts have to be three away from mine. Well, at least three posts after mine. Since before mine would be rather bitchy since I could set it up like I just did here to get you in trouble ."Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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DT wrote: That would be an amazingly annoying PR.
Sadly, before he even said anything this was the first thing I though. I totally want to put a "Restraining order'd townie" in a game now. I'd need to figure out what precisely the mechanics and the role itself would be. Probably a tracker or something.SP wrote: And she runs the kinds of games that would take advantage of both using the PR, and abusing it as she stated.
All you are doing is giving her ideas. ;D"Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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Yeah, that's probably how I'd run it. I'd have to see how it would work. Losing role abilities WOULD be a penalty for breaking PR, but probably on the third strike instead of the second."Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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You know what Kai? Just put my vote on the votecount. We already know I'm voting you, I see no reason to waste any BBcode tags on it.
I trust you to do the right thing.
But that would be breaking protocol. . . aw hell, sure.
And my favorite role is vig as well. I'm going to have to eliminate you before the game is over, aren't I Miles?"Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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I'm pretty sure all votes count. We'll see a strange vote for "ScumRoboto". I wonder if it counts against DiscoRoboto.
Also, DT, you better keep three posts away from me or I'm calling the cops.
As the resident authority in this thread, I cannot enforce anything above 2 posts. See my last edit on the matter."Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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No, EdFrost has committed an experimental scumtell. Still working on whether it actually holds true but it's a good place to start. Which is unusual as I usually don't do a serious vote until page 6 or 7. Interesting."Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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Show me you are town through your actions. So far I have you on the scummy end of my radar. If you post with genuine townie intent (because you are indeed a townie), i'll eventually get off you and move to the real scum. If you ARE scum, however, well, first I'll be happy to have another point in favor of my theory, and I doubt you'll convince me you aren't scum.Nikanor wrote:If, purely in the interest of saving your time, I were to tell you that I am town and that your experimental scumtell is therefore false, thus saving you the time and effort of having to test it thoroughly, would you believe me?
I'm just curious.
So, good luck ^-^.
With enough luck you'll figure it out.Miles wrote: Miss Kitten, I think I missed something. Sad
The whole thing makes me confuzzled.. my brain hurts Crying or Very sad"Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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Actually, I assume town for most people. It's just that what I saw from you and Ed was scummy. So you two got started as scum having to prove your innocence. It really is rather different.Nikanor wrote:
Also, your post looks to me like you are using 'guilty until proven innocent' logic. Is this correct? What is your stance on such logic?
Too bad I mostly disagree SP. It's easier to get scum when you work WITH the town, not against it.SP wrote: MY stance is that it is the best logic.
And since I use it, everyone else should as well."Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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I can't get into it for the time being. As I said, just play normally. If you are town, there's nothing to worry about.Ed wrote:
Is your 'experimental' scum tell about [insert ongoing game here]? If so, that's blegh. I'm intending to vote the mafia group in every game like this regardless of alignment. Plus, that's only one game.
are to tell what your scumtell is, or do you want to keep your super powerful scumhunting techniques a secret?
And why didn't you sign up for Umineko mafia?Miles wrote:
Do you want me to be Battler, Miss Kitty?
Alternatively, I could be anyone from Higurashi if you want me to run around shouting USODA!!!!!"Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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You can always PM me about replacement options. I'm getting the impression I might need one or two in the game in about 24 hours.MilesPrower wrote:
Because I'm stupid Miss KittyUncertainKitten wrote:
And why didn't you sign up for Umineko mafia?Miles wrote:
Do you want me to be Battler, Miss Kitty?
Alternatively, I could be anyone from Higurashi if you want me to run around shouting USODA!!!!!
I need batteries to get going... or a good smack in the face."Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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You wanted /in? Hell, just PM me about replacement options as well. I like having a stock since I'm pretty sure two of my players flaked. But I'm not certain.SocioPath wrote:
SCUMSLIP! :OUncertainKitten wrote:
And why didn't you sign up for Umineko mafia?Miles wrote:
Do you want me to be Battler, Miss Kitty?
Alternatively, I could be anyone from Higurashi if you want me to run around shouting USODA!!!!!
There WAS no real 'sign up' for that game.
It was filled due to pre/ins!
Which makes it a lot harder to sign up for.
I SHOULD KNOW. >;O"Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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I'll keep that in mind. If I need you'll I'll see about PMing you to replace as well .SocioPath wrote:
I'm generally not one to pre/in or replace.UncertainKitten wrote:You wanted /in? Hell, just PM me about replacement options as well. I like having a stock since I'm pretty sure two of my players flaked. But I'm not certain.
NOT MY STYLE.
The only game I've ever replaced into was one where the mod PM'd me themselves.
Although I missed out on a recent Tar game for the same reasons.
You can just pre/in me for any game either of you two run ever though.
It's the guy with the beard that's lowering your cuteness.Does that mean I'm not cute...? Sad Here I was thinking of trying to take over the town with my cuteness, and some little guy one ups me!
RayFrost's moé is not sufficient to overcome the BEARD!"Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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I wouldn't give me too much credit, Ed. I've only found one thing to comment on so far. Technically two since two players did it but yeah.
Miles being cute isn't exactly a scumtell to me. If he remains trying to be cutesy when serious business occurs, I'll reassess his case."Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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Nyeh, I see the same thing you do I think, I just feel like being mysterious ^-^.SocioPath wrote:
I was just going to not point out specifics and let the general statement of mine to simmer to later be questioned and then explained in excruciating detail for those that were unaware.UncertainKitten wrote:
You noticed? I was just gonna let it simmer to fall into a wall of text later.SP wrote: Post 144 is the scummiest thing I've seen in this game so far."Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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Nah. It's easier to watch them dig their own hole as they talk. I have no questions in particular.
thing was meant to be non specific. I'm sure if I looked closer I'd find multiple things too. But don't forget that EdFrost is a hydra, so some things might not be as scummy.SP wrote: "thing"?
I see at least 3 things wrong with that picture, likely 4, possibly 5 depending on semantics."Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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I'm voting my suspicion right now. At least one reasoning has to remain secret for the time being. The other I will reveal in due time, but I want to get everyone's impression first.EdFrost wrote: Well, until then I think you're both full of it and until you either bother to progress the game through either a) voting your apparent suspicions or b) talking about your apparent suspicions I'll be frustrated as hell with both of you for just stagnating the game."Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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Ah, sorry, in all this mysteriousness I forgot that Miles actually isn't a closed file. The reason I FoS'd him is because it feels like he's following the majority of active posters to justify his semi OMGUS there.
He leaves a lot of wiggle room that doesn't say a lot, and basically just rephrases what has previously been said while trying to appear to take a stance. That's all."Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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Don't think you'll clear it up but I have now provided my reasoning since there was no reason to hide it. I do think I need to hold back a little longer on EdFrost."Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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Was it? I actually put them forth this time.SocioPath wrote:
Stop reading my mind! >:OUncertainKitten wrote:Slightly bothered by the last post.
But I bet its for different reasons than as to why it slightly bothers me."Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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I did notice that as well, actually, but it bothered me less than the other points. It's an inconsistency but not precisely a scummy one as he might have been persuaded to look at them slightly separately.
But, yeah, you were right, I was looking at something different."Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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But what was the necessity of that post? The idea is it felt like you were echoing us to build rapport. I definitely have an eye on you for the time being."Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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dana wrote: stop voting for the mod and actually play this game, please. Let's start over with a real RVS. vote: UncertainKitten, although I'm not certain that's the right vote.FoS: Dana
RVS has been over for quite awhile IMO. I already have a level of suspicion on EdFrost, Nikanor, Miles, and now you.
Are you trying to pretend that the last 6 pages have absolutely nothing to go off of? There's a lot of noise but there are some reads you can get from it. I'd advise giving a second shot."Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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Look harder?smash wrote:
Honestly though, when I look back I'm not seeing many, if any scumtells, but there is a lot of appeal to emotion from the jokes going around, which doesn't help in any way. If this continues with anyone, I'd be starting to look at them suspiciously.
Oh, I caught the joke. I just think that you call wasn't very townlike.dana wrote: sigh. My RVS had a joke hidden in it which most people seemed to miss. I said I was UNCERTAIN that I should vote for UNCERTAIN KITTEN. No, I don't think there is anything to be gotten from the first 6 pages, anyway.
unvote until I actually have a scum candidate."Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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And that thinking is flawed. So far no concrete stances on other players have been made. Agreeing with you on what amounts to theory is QUITE easy for scum to do. Further, you can't be sure that this is his actual opinion of events. He could easily be posting it to "look townie".dana wrote: reasoning behind calling Smash of SSS townie for agreeing with me:
I'm townie
I think the way he does about the events of this game
He's more likely townie
You really don't get much til the bandwagons start forming, when stances on other players are forced."Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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Still rather easy at this point.dana wrote:
But he DISagreed with me. He corrected me rightly on a point that I was wrong on.
Now, I don't think he's SCUM, I just don't think you can qualify him as town for mere agreement. Honestly, at this stage it's hard to qualify anyone as town."Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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Unvote, Vote danakillsu
Seriously? You stand accused of something very specific in your supposedly real thoughts on the game and generalize it in an Appeal to Emotion? wow.
Your first two posts already had me on the edge."Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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Ok, magnus, I think you are missing at least two players on your votecount. And that you can't count.
It's a mess and I don't even know where to begin.
Conflicted on the dana issue now. Don't like how magically the wagon on him sprang up, but don't want to jump off yet as we might get some good info off the wagon. We'll see how it goes.
DT's post seems sparse but I'm not sure if that's just because nothing has been happening or what."Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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Oh, hey, Miles has Alice's note.
I should have figured when both mods had colors that something was up.
Unvote, Vote Dana
Discrediting believable role information. Oh wait, I was already voting him ^-^
May I ask why you know the modsaren'tplaying Dana?
Nine out of ten Tar games. That said, I don't think we need to lynch the mod yet.Seven wrote: Not sure who suggested we kill the mod, but it's a stupid idea. Since when do we skip D1 and just kill the mod? Even if the mod is relevent and a player in this game, we should treat him like any other player ie lynch him if we have a reason to.
can you back this up with comparative analysis?Seven wrote: On dana: wouldn't lynch him just yet. He seems to be playing to what I know of his town-meta right now (though I guess I don't know his scum-meta).
Meta has uses, but it's not foolproof. I prefer to combine it with active analysis. In your example, White Lightning has had a history of tearing up pillows, so it is entirely fair to investigate him further while placing less suspicion for the pillow ripping on Captain Sparky. But blaming someone out of hand based PURELY on meta isn't a good idea.Miles wrote: I don't like meta.
I agree that to some extent bad players who hide behind meta need to catch flack for their actions. However, I think completely unqualified lynching will lead to more mislynches then otherwise.SP wrote:Meta is fine and great.
But if a player is scummy, then regardless of meta, they should be called out on it.
Those that hide behind their past meta and go "its not scummy when I do it, because I always do this" IS A FALLACY.
Regardless of what they claim.
There are even players on this site that have user based titles showing their ineptitude.
And hide behind it.
Because people fail to realize it is in fact a fallacy.
Scummy is scummy.
Regardless of past actions.
Tarhalindur has the most extensive mod as player game theory. Kai and m_oEdFrost wrote: @Seven: The mod knows the setup; and just going on pure motivational basis, they want their game to be fun to watch/play (if they're players). Leading the the town to victory would be a bland way to waste the 3+ months that they've been waiting in the Queue. They have no reason to play nice with us, and if they're actually players it eliminates a third party *that we aren't risking a mislynch on*.haveto be third party. There are ways to make them a killing third party though, so we might want to be careful of that.
Overall, Dana remains scummy, Seven gets a o_O until he backs up his meta, Miles seems alright, Frost is dissipating my scum read of him little by little, SP as always seems awesome (dammit), and I probably don't have enough from the other players."Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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/me facepalmsSeven wrote: The game I was referring to (Dana's meta) isn't over yet. I don't mind looking over his finished games though. I'll post that tonight.
One game is NOT enough data to develop a meta of someone out of :S."Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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You are mostly right. Except for the fact Tar gives mod hints in votecount titles. Sometimes. I wouldn't overanalyze them but there could be valuable information.SocioPath wrote:No.
Because going to a single voting title, and saying 'oh hey, that voting title has words, those words could mean something' will lead to nothing.
There is nothing to be gathered from the titles that you can say ANYthing about let alone "I told you so".
Look at the other titles, why no comments on them?
You can't pick and choose them.
You can't pretend a single voting title has meaning and then ignore every other single one.
Perhaps thats just the first one you noticed.
Perhaps you are just insane.
Perhaps fluff is fluff is fluff is fluff.
That said, "multiple interpretations" appears to be a commentary on the Role PM stuff we are talking about now."Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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I think it's clear you could easily be a mafia lynchee as well as town lynchee. Hell, you could be third party!dana wrote:
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Just ask yourselves if (taking for granted that I am magnus_orion) my playing style fits my roleclaim. That's all I ask. I believe it's clear that I was trying to help town by pointing out that Miles had a false interpretation of the way this game works.
Your roleclaim is imminently fakeable. Hell, it could just be fluff, but given this is linked role chaos, probably not.
...that said, a mafia lynchee would really give town a sorta advantage so I can't be entirely sure I want you dead yet."Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
-StrangerCoug
Internet Mafiais probably never going to happen. You all probably knew that.-
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