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Mini 919: Quiz Show Mafia -- Game Over!

Post Post #0 (isolation #0) » Wed Feb 03, 2010 5:49 am

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Cheesy Quiz Show Host Enters

"Hi folks, you've joined me on tonights episode of "He Who Dares Answer Lots of Questions Right and Isn't Weakest Link and Wants To Be A Millionaire and The Odds For The Player To Win Are 15 to 1 WINS!"

*Host Grins*

Unfortunately, the prize fund has been reduced from last week's jackpot prize of 10 trillion to a mere 10,000. Who will win? And Who Will Lose?

*machine gun fire from amongst the contestants*

"It's time to make things a little more interesting, this game is going to be fun... each round, you ask people questions and they answer with their pretty little smiles to prevent other people voting them off to bag themselves lots of money... well it's going to change, this time your playing for your life... so you better get the questions right


Game Specs

Players: 12
Closed Set-Up
Deep-South Nightless

Day 1 you have 3 rounds of Q&A, each day thereafter only 2.

The Contestants (12)


Oman replacing
bv310

CryMeARiver
Debonair Danny DiPietro
Kirbyoshi

Eliminated
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Sanhora, The Evil Host, Killed Day 1
Farside22, Sacrificial Mafia, Killed Day 1

Ellibereth, Cop, Killed Day 1

Netopalis, Vanilla Townie, Killed Day 1
Doombunny9, Vanilla Townie, Killed Day 1
DragonsofSummer, Vanilla Townie, Killed Day 1
Cobalt, Vanilla Townie, Killed Day 1

The Inquisition, Enraged Townie, Suicided Day 1

Mr. Host - Beloved Princess With An Awful Lot Of Money To Give Away - Killed Pregame
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Post Post #1 (isolation #1) » Wed Feb 03, 2010 6:00 am

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Bog Standard Rules as well as the Following
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1 - Each lynch or day (whichever comes first) all powers are reloaded.
2 - Powers are processed after 72 hours + till I log in.
3 - Role Altering Powers are processed immediately and last 72 hours (e.g. RB, Doc, JK etc.)
4 - Each Question Stage will last 48 hours, with weekends counting
as normal

5 - Each Answer Stage will last 48 hours, with weekends counting
as normal

6 - Each Voting Stage will last 48 hours, with weekends counting
as normal


Note this is the following order of the game (Day 1 is the example)
Question Stage 1
Answer Stage 1
Voting Stage 1 (Majority Lynches, No Revoting therefore no unvoting)
QS 2
AS 2
VS 2
--- Below Only For the First Day ---
QS 3
AS 3
VS 3
Example Town Role wrote:You are Maggie Smith, you were disappointed when you learned that the money had all been won last week, but it's only money and you would be happy with 10,000.

The "unusual slightly psychotic game host" was determined to let you remain true to your cause, but you were once a prostitute... you know what they say "once a prossie always a whore"... So you'll use this to your advantage once per day you may distract a player and they will be rendered incapable of participating in the next Question Stage.

It however comes at a price, and you cannot ask any questions either. You may use this power after every lynch or after every two voting stages, whichever comes first.

You win when all anti-town roles are eliminated, and the people who murdered the innocent host are dealt with appropriately.
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Post Post #2 (isolation #2) » Wed Feb 03, 2010 6:58 am

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Players, Ready
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Gladiators, Ready
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GO


Each player may post precisely one question to each other player. This post is also treated as your confirm.

Do not answer or vote yet. That will be happening soon.
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Post Post #4 (isolation #3) » Wed Feb 03, 2010 8:35 am

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Yes
All in the same post.
You can if you so wish, after all players are not restricted to only one word responses, so the effect of them is nullified.
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Post Post #22 (isolation #4) » Thu Feb 04, 2010 5:47 am

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Why would you ask trivia when in the sign-up queue I said you need no general knowledge to participate?


Discussion is restricted to:

A) Questions
B) Answers
C) Voting

Anything which comes under none of the above is forbidden. As is doing something which doesn't fit the current stage you are in:

e.g. answering a question in the voting stage.

Current Question Count
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CryMeARiver (Used None)
Kirbyoshi (Used None)
Sanhora (Used None)
bv310 (Cobalt, CryMeARiver, Debonair Danny DiPietro, Doombunny9, DragonsofSummer, Ellibereth, farside22, Kirbyoshi, Netopalis, Sanhora, The Inquisition)

NOTE: that normally farside22's and bv310's only posting one question would result in losing all other questions, as it is QS1 I am being a generous moderator...

Distributed all questions: Doombunny9, Debonair Danny DiPietro, The Inquisition, farside22, Ellibereth, DragonsofSummer, Netopalis, Cobalt
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Post Post #28 (isolation #5) » Thu Feb 04, 2010 11:56 pm

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Voting is in the voting stage, and just that. Nothing More

And yes bunny of doom you are correct
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Post Post #30 (isolation #6) » Fri Feb 05, 2010 6:46 am

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bv310
did not use all questions. As bv has posted there will be no strike given.

he also has 12 minutes to post them... if he does so in time he won't lose them.
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Post Post #31 (isolation #7) » Fri Feb 05, 2010 7:25 am

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Number denotes which player asked the question:
  1. bv310
  2. Cobalt
  3. CryMeARiver
  4. Debonair Danny DiPietro
  5. Doombunny9
  6. DragonsofSummer
  7. Ellibereth
  8. farside22
  9. Kirbyoshi
  10. Netopalis
  11. Sanhora (Some in pos 12)
  12. The Inquisition (Some in Pos 11)
Questions for:
bv310

  1. No question from self
  2. Are you town?
  3. How do you feel about bussing and how often do you do it? Why?
  4. Do you have the same alignment as me?
  5. Do you use meta and if so, how much?
  6. Do you support the Lynch all Lurkers argument? Why or why not?
  7. How important do you find meta?
  8. Would you please link and describe how you act in a game as mafia and as town?
  9. Do you find that town or scum makes reaching cases more?
  10. Describe your style of play on this site, and what you value the most in the game of mafia.
  11. In post 10, did you or did you not agree with Farside's and CMAR's accusation against Kirby and why?
  12. If your role were a fruit, what role would it be?
Questions for:
Cobalt

  1. No question from bv
  2. No question from self
  3. If someone bandwagons without sufficient reason/the same reasons of another person, are the automatically scum? Why?
  4. Do you expect to learn anything at all from your question?
  5. As of when you answer this question, who do you think is the scummiest person?
  6. Do you support the Lynch all Lurkers argument? Why or why not?
  7. How important do you find meta?
  8. Would you please link and describe how you act in a game as mafia and as town?
  9. What information do you expect to gain from that question?
  10. Describe your style of play on this site, and what you value the most in the game of mafia.
  11. After everyone has responded to your question, can you tell us what information the answers have given to you?
  12. If you were an SK, what strategy would you take this game to win?
Questions for:
CryMeARiver

  1. Do you not think that you're reaching a bit? If so, do you not consider that to be a scumtell?
  2. Are you town?
  3. No question from self
  4. Do you have the same alignment as DragonsofSummer?
  5. What would you say your normal playstyle is (such as lurking a lot, talkitive, etc.)
  6. Do you support the Lynch all Lurkers argument? Why or why not?
  7. How important do you find meta?
  8. Would you please link and describe how you act in a game as mafia and as town?
  9. Is it more likely that someone asking in-thread for clarification is town, or scum trying to look town?
  10. Describe your style of play on this site, and what you value the most in the game of mafia.
  11. If you were given one ability in addition to your own to help you win this game, what would it be and why?
  12. What do you think of Kirby's explanation?
Questions for:
Debonair Danny DiPietro

  1. No question from bv
  2. Are you town?
  3. Disregarding the rule, do you think that if town doesn't come up with a decision by the deadline, should the majority vote die, or no one die? Why?
  4. No question from self
  5. Do you, like me, feel a strong urge to answer some of the questions even though we're not supposed to?
  6. Do you support the Lynch all Lurkers argument? Why or why not?
  7. How important do you find meta?
  8. Would you please link and describe how you act in a game as mafia and as town?
  9. Is your change of avatar a sign that you will lurk this game?
  10. Describe your style of play on this site, and what you value the most in the game of mafia.
  11. What's your strategy for winning this game?
  12. Do you have the same allignment as The Inquisition?
Questions for:
Doombunny9

  1. No question from bv
  2. Are you town?
  3. Do you prefer being town, scum, or a third party and how do you feel about this game? Why?
  4. What possible benefit do you think the town would derive from just asking and answering trivia questions?
  5. No question from self
  6. Do you support the Lynch all Lurkers argument? Why or why not?
  7. How important do you find meta?
  8. Would you please link and describe how you act in a game as mafia and as town?
  9. What confused you on the first page?
  10. Describe your style of play on this site, and what you value the most in the game of mafia.
  11. Can you give me two good reasons we shouldn't just lynch you on the first round of voting?
  12. If you were only allowed to ask one question during the first question stage, who would you have asked a question and what would it have been?
Questions for:
DragonsofSummer

  1. No question from bv
  2. Are you town?
  3. Do you think lurkers should be lynched? Why?
  4. Do you have the same alignment as CryMeARiver?
  5. What experiance have you had on this site or other similar sites. Meaning, how many games, how many were you town, scum, 3rd party etc.
  6. No question from self
  7. How important do you find meta?
  8. Would you please link and describe how you act in a game as mafia and as town?
  9. Are you going to base your votes off of mainly your own questions, or other people’s questions?
  10. Describe your style of play on this site, and what you value the most in the game of mafia.
  11. If you had to, who would you policy lynch?
  12. Is there a special reason why you asked about Lynch all Lurkers or not?
Questions for:
Ellibereth

  1. No question from bv
  2. Are you town?
  3. Say you are a cop, who do you investigate now? Why?
  4. Why do you say you’d stop talking until the mod answered, but then you posted anyways before the mod answered anything?
  5. Would you consider yourself to be "pro-town"
  6. Do you support the Lynch all Lurkers argument? Why or why not?
  7. No question from self
  8. Would you please link and describe how you act in a game as mafia and as town?
  9. Why did your first post only contain a quote? Don’t you have anything to add?
  10. Describe your style of play on this site, and what you value the most in the game of mafia.
  11. What types of questions would you expect to see from a scum?
  12. Who asked the best questions and who the worst and why?
Questions for:
farside22

  1. No question from bv
  2. Are you town?
  3. Do you agree with the common scumtell that, "the third and fourth people on a bandwagon are usually scum"? Why?
  4. What benefit do expect to accrue from people supplying meta reads of themselves in a game that that appears to be extremely different from convention?
  5. What is your opinions on policy lynches, when is it ok, not ok etc.
  6. Do you support the Lynch all Lurkers argument? Why or why not?
  7. How important do you find meta?
  8. No question from self
  9. Is the fact that you’re basically V/LA on weekends, combined with the fact that all 7 days of the week count in this game, going to affect your play? If so, how?
  10. Describe your style of play on this site, and what you value the most in the game of mafia.
  11. Which is lonelier when you play, town or scum? Why?
  12. Same question - What do you think of Kirby's explanation?
Questions for:
Kirbyoshi

  1. No question from bv
  2. Are you town?
  3. What is your strategy if you are a pro-town roleblocker? Why?
  4. Why the timidity in asking a question? Do you really expect the mod to go all punishment crazy if you ask a question without a verifiable answer?
  5. If you were to make a huge mistake when claiming but no one noticed but you, would you fix it if it would hurt you if it did?
  6. Do you support the Lynch all Lurkers argument? Why or why not?
  7. How important do you find meta?
  8. How would you persue a player through a question that has no right answer to it?
  9. No question from self
  10. Describe your style of play on this site, and what you value the most in the game of mafia.
  11. If you had to pick up your role at a bar, what pickup line would you use?
  12. What did you think of the accusations from Farside and CMAR at the start?
Questions for:
Netopalis

  1. No question from bv
  2. Are you town?
  3. What is your strategy if you are a scum roleblocker? Why?
  4. What benefit do expect to accrue from people talking about their usual playstyle in a game that that appears to be extremely different from convention?
  5. Have you played any mafia games in a non-forum style (such as chatroom or RL)
  6. Do you support the Lynch all Lurkers argument? Why or why not?
  7. How important do you find meta?
  8. Would you please link and describe how you act in a game as mafia and as town?
  9. Why should I trust you?
  10. Describe your style of play on this site, and what you value the most in the game of mafia.
  11. Why did you decide to play this game?
  12. Are you a 'leader' or a 'sheep'?
Questions for:
Sanhora

  1. No question from bv
  2. Are you town?
  3. How are you gonna be successful in this game?
  4. Even I’m getting my questions in before you, what’s taking so long?
  5. What are you're overall opinions on this setup. What do you like, what don't you like etc.
  6. Do you support the Lynch all Lurkers argument? Why or why not?
  7. How important do you find meta?
  8. Would you please link and describe how you act in a game as mafia and as town?
  9. In how many games on this site have you lived to endgame?
  10. Describe your style of play on this site, and what you value the most in the game of mafia.
  11. No Question from Self
  12. If one person should absolutely not be lynched day 1, who would it be and why?
Questions for:
The Inquisition

  1. No question from bv
  2. Are you town?
  3. Have you played with any of the players in this game before and how do they typically act?
  4. Do you have the same alignment as bv310?
  5. Would you consider yourself a "good" person when playing scum?
  6. Do you support the Lynch all Lurkers argument? Why or why not?
  7. How important do you find meta?
  8. Would you please link and describe how you act in a game as mafia and as town?
  9. Are you going to live up to your name and ask BA questions?
  10. Describe your style of play on this site, and what you value the most in the game of mafia.
  11. What's your opinion of rolefishing?
  12. No question from self
I made an error and some of Sanhoras and Inquisitions questions have been mixed up
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Post Post #36 (isolation #8) » Fri Feb 05, 2010 8:24 am

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No it's just so the key for player nos works regardless (I use the list function) and numbers aren't just skipped:

e.g. 1, 2, 4 which may lead to confusion
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Post Post #47 (isolation #9) » Sun Feb 07, 2010 2:09 am

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bv has just under 6 hours to answer. Otherwise will receive a prod and a strike (2 consecutive strikes = out, 3 strikes all game = out [Excluding V/LA that I'm informed of])
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Post Post #58 (isolation #10) » Mon Feb 08, 2010 8:17 am

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Yet to Vote


CryMeARiver
Debonair Danny DiPietro
DragonsofSummer

After which the game shall revert to Question Stage (regardless of if there's a lynch or not)

12 Players, 7 To Lynch
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Post Post #62 (isolation #11) » Mon Feb 08, 2010 11:06 am

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Yes they will
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Post Post #64 (isolation #12) » Mon Feb 08, 2010 11:26 am

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No.

Though you can make any inference you wish from players repeating an old question or a newish question.

I'd also advise to prevent duplicate questions checking the thread in another tab before you post.
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Post Post #67 (isolation #13) » Tue Feb 09, 2010 5:20 am

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CryMeARiver wrote:@Mod, when you say that you can't unvote or revote, does that mean for the whole day, or just during a voting stage?
Just the voting stage.

Vote Count


The Inquisition (6): Kirbyoshi, Doombunny9, Sanhora, bv310, farside22, DragonsofSummer

bv310 (2): Debonair Danny DiPietro, CryMeARiver

DragonsofSummer (1): Netopalis
Ellibereth (1): The Inquisition
Doombunny (1): Cobalt

Not Voting: Ellibereth

12 Alive, 7 To Lynch

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Post Post #70 (isolation #14) » Tue Feb 09, 2010 7:55 am

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You can't ask yourself questions... just a point... (Inquisition)
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Post Post #81 (isolation #15) » Thu Feb 11, 2010 6:01 am

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Key

  1. bv310
  2. Cobalt
  3. CryMeARiver
  4. Debonair Danny DiPietro
  5. Doombunny9
  6. DragonsofSummer
  7. Ellibereth
  8. farside22
  9. Kirbyoshi
  10. Netopalis
  11. Sanhora
  12. The Inquisition
bv310

  1. bv310
  2. How is the question "Are you town?" possessed of a stunning amount of WIFOM?
  3. TheInquisition and Doombunny took my original question, so...Why did you bandwagon on TheInquistion?
  4. How much do you like the phrase “WIFOM”?
  5. Why did you only ask one person a question? If it was a misunderstanding of the rules, why did you not catch on? If you just were'nt here, why weren't you here?
  6. Do you intend to let others do your work for you this entire game?
  7. What reads do you have so far if any?
  8. Which players did you find the scummiest (besides the one you voted for) and why?
  9. You mentioned your playstyle as one that “just sits back and lets scum screw themselves over.” Who (besides Inq, if he’s your answer) do you think has “screwed themselves over” the most so far?
  10. Why did you vote for The Inquisition? Did you feel that he was scummy enough to merit a bandwagon? Why?
  11. During the first Question, Answer and Voting stage,whose actions did you find scummy and why?
  12. We have three question and answer rounds in Day 1 and only 2 in the subsequent days. Why have you not asked everyone a question?
Cobalt

  1. bv310
  2. No Q from Self
  3. Why did your repeatedly refuse to describe your style of play on this site and why did you only ask questions towards certain people this round?
  4. Why no question for me, jerk?
  5. Why choose to ask a question like "Are you town" instead of asking a question that actually reveals something?
  6. How do you think the rules of this game will impact your scum hunting, and do you feel it will force you to change from how you normally hunt?
  7. Do you really think I would give you anything close to a full anwser to your question? And to the latter 3, why repeat a question that has already been asked?
  8. Why did you vote for doombunny?
  9. Why did you find me scummy, and what about my play changed your mind?
  10. Why did you not use all of your questions for today?
  11. During the first Question, Answer and Voting stage,whose actions did you find scummy and why?
  12. You said you found Kirbyoshi scummiest when you answered your questions. What made you believe that doombunny was scummier than kirboyshi by the time you voted?
CryMeARiver

  1. bv310
  2. Why did you ask players to talk about their strategy when playing protown power roles?
  3. No Q from Self
  4. Why did you vote for Bv310?
  5. When you answered my question about whether or not DragonsofSummer was the same alignment as you, you said it depended on whether he was “scum or not” and NOT “town or not”, don’t people naturally include an attribute describing themselves in that sort of statement?
  6. Why would you think that we couldn't unvote for the whole day? What would be the point of that especially considering we have multiple voting stages?
  7. Do you ever see gambiting as being useful to the town?
  8. What pro-town motivation could you have for the question you asked me in Qs1?
  9. Why that question to Farside in QS1? Wondering when to place your vote to look more town?
  10. Why did you vote for BV? It seems like there was probably some logic there. What was it?
  11. During the first Question, Answer and Voting stage,whose actions did you find scummy and why?
  12. You say you don't like Lynch All Lurkers and then you voted bv. Why do you think he's the scummiest player?
Debonair Danny DiPietro

  1. bv310
  2. No Q from Cobalt
  3. What is your opinion on TheInquisition bandwagon and why did you answer that "the odds are likely" that you and him are the same alignment (especially since people know seem to think he's scum)?
  4. No Q from Self
  5. Assuming you're reasoning for voting bv is for asking only one person a question (As that seems the most likely), do you see the likelyhood that it was just a misunderstanding or him not being here? If so, why still vote him?
  6. Since you know you misanswered my question why did you choose to do so, and why would you knowingly lie?
  7. What reads do you have so far if any?
  8. Why did you vote for Bv310?
  9. Why did you refuse to at least link to one of your town games?
  10. Why did you vote for BV? It seems like there was probably some logic there. What was it?
  11. During the first Question, Answer and Voting stage,whose actions did you find scummy and why?
  12. Have Ellibereth's current actions been consistent with town play?
Doombunny9

  1. bv310
  2. Why did you qualify your answer to my question by saying "As far as you know" instead of a simple yes?
  3. Have you ever played with Cobalt before, how did he act, and did something happen that would make him vote for you?
  4. Why do you assume that I would base my vote on such a stupid reason? Are you implying that I am stupid? Why or why not?
  5. No Q From Self
  6. Do you believe someone should be thought town until proven scum? If so, why? If not, why?
  7. Do you really think I would give you anything close to a full anwser to your question? And to the latter 3, why repeat a question that has already been asked?
  8. What type of information do you think a trivia question will get you for hunting for scum?
  9. What was the purpose of your question to Cobalt in QS1? Was it to make sure it wasn’t you?
  10. Why did you vote for The Inquisition? Did you feel that he was scummy enough to merit a bandwagon? Why?
  11. During the first Question, Answer and Voting stage,whose actions did you find scummy and why?
  12. You placed the second vote on me. Did you expect to see L-1 on me when you made that vote, and given that we have had precisely one round of voting, do you think this apparent early bandwagon is well founded or do you think it's a convenient vehicle for those who are lazy and/or scum to hide out in?
DragonsofSummer

  1. bv310
  2. How did you expect your first question to find scum?
  3. Why did you put TheInquisition at L1, fully knowing that Ellibereth this round or someone next round could hammer?
  4. I completely mis-answered your question, usually I would expect that to draw a vote or some attention, why did you chose to wagon The Inquisition instead?
  5. Why ask everybody one question? Why not ask everybody a differant question?
  6. No Q from Self
  7. What reads do you have so far if any?
  8. Which players did you find the scummiest (besides the one you voted for) and why?
  9. Do you think it was a good idea to ask every player the same question in QS1? Why or why not?
  10. Why did you vote for The Inquisition? Did you feel that he was scummy enough to merit a bandwagon? Why?
  11. During the first Question, Answer and Voting stage,whose actions did you find scummy and why?
  12. You presumably waited and made your vote with the knowledge that no matter what you did, it could not possibly lead to a lynch. What was the full purpose of voting me, and do you think that if you were scum this would be an effective way of laying low by jumping onto an established bandwagon but without any hope of actually being held responsible for it (i.e. no lynch would occur).
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  1. bv310
  2. Why didn't you vote?
  3. What do you think about TheInquistition bandwagon?
  4. What’s the logic behind abstaining with your first vote?
  5. What do you hope to gain from abstaining? Are you planning on doing it again this voting stage?
  6. What do you feel not voting accomplishes, and do you have any suspects?
  7. None From Self
  8. Why did you abstain from voting?
  9. Why didn’t you answer my question from QS1?
  10. Why did you abstain? Why does it seem like you're trying to hide something? Is there something that you do not wish to disclose?
  11. During the first Question, Answer and Voting stage,whose actions did you find scummy and why?
  12. Given that our game has extremely limited opportunities for interaction, do you agree that you have (1) been evasive in both your answers and your vote and (2) this has hurt the town?
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  2. No Q from Cobalt
  3. Why is TheInquisition scummy and who are your top scum candidates?
  4. Why did you vote for The Inquisition?
  5. Can you give us a quick summery of what you think of all the players int his game so far?
  6. If everyone in the town disagreed with you about the person you found scummiest, would you still pursue them?
  7. Do you really think I would give you anything close to a full anwser to your question? And to the latter 3, why repeat a question that has already been asked?
  8. None From Self
  9. What the heck does “niggle” mean, and why would you even use such a word?
  10. Why did you vote for The Inquisition? Did you feel that he was scummy enough to merit a bandwagon? Why?
  11. During the first Question, Answer and Voting stage,whose actions did you find scummy and why?
  12. Do you think that if Ellibereth continues his policy of avoiding actually answering questions (please reread his responses) that we'll ever be able to get a good read on him outside of vote analysis (assuming he actually makes a vote)?
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  2. No Q from Cobalt
  3. What did you truly expect to gain from your Q1 questions and how do you think you successfully defended yourself from the page 1 suspicions (since you received 0 votes)?
  4. If you had to describe your role as a type of apple, what apple would your role be and why?
  5. Being the person that was the first to vote The Inquisition, Were you surprised to see a bandwagon quickly form and get to L1? What were your thoughts on it?
  6. Why did you ask everyone except farside a serious question during this question stage?
  7. What reads do you have so far if any?
  8. What type of information do you think a trivia question will get you for hunting for scum?
  9. None from Self
  10. Did you intend for your vote on The Inquisition to gain a bandwagon? Do you think he would have been a good lynch candidate? Why or why not?
  11. During the first Question, Answer and Voting stage,whose actions did you find scummy and why?
  12. You have characterized my questions about roles as fishing, but given that none have actually asked for anything that could actually confirm or deny them, do you think their purpose is to allow actual power roles to very subtlely breadcrumb and then later justify/make scum when claiming justify their response later or do you think it's actually an attempt to out power roles, and assuming you believe that it's actually to out power roles do you think scum would be dumb enough to role fish in Q1 (please answer without using the term WIFOM)?
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  2. How did you expect your first question to find scum?
  3. If you find meta "unimportant", what made you ask the question that you did in Q1?
  4. You suggest that my vote (and CryMeARiver) had some logic to it. Are you suggesting that the others votes were therefore not logical? Please explan.
  5. Can you give us a quick summery of what you think of all the players int his game so far?
  6. If you were required to hammer someone in the upcoming voting stage who would it be and why?
  7. Do you really think I would give you anything close to a full anwser to your question? And to the latter 3, why repeat a question that has already been asked?
  8. Why did you vote for DOS
  9. Do you think this game will favor your playstyle? Why or why not?
  10. None From Self
  11. During the first Question, Answer and Voting stage,whose actions did you find scummy and why?
  12. Why dragonsofsummer? Do you think my question to him is fair?
Sanhora

  1. bv310
  2. No Q from Cobalt
  3. On what did you base your answer when you answered question number 12 in A1?
  4. We have a player named Sanhora in this game?
  5. Can you give us a quick summery of what you think of all the players int his game so far?
  6. Do you feel any of your questions from the first question stage helped you gain insight into other players alignments? Why or why not?
  7. What reads do you have so far if any?
  8. Which players did you find the scummiest (besides the one you voted for) and why
  9. Why should Ellibereth be kept alive if she’s town?
  10. Why did you vote for The Inquisition? Did you feel that he was scummy enough to merit a bandwagon? Why?
  11. NO Q FROM SELF
  12. Who do you think is the most town person now and why?
The Inquisition

  1. bv310
  2. Why did you ask so many filler game theory questions?
  3. Since you don't have a chance to claim unless you are asked, this question is meant to give you the option to claim.
    Not a question, consider rephrasing in the future. I'll let it pass this once

  4. You picked up six votes in that first go around. What is your reaction to this large bandwagon?
  5. What is your opinion on the bandwagon on you? Do you think any scum were on it and how many?
  6. Elaborate more on what you think specific rolefishing is, and how rolefishing of any kind can be helpful to the town?
  7. What pro-town motivation could you have for the question you asked me in Qs1?
  8. Why did you vote for ellibereth?
  9. What do you think of Cobalt’s play so far?
  10. There have been several votes against you on the last voting stage. What do you think prompted those votes, and who do you think would have been a better lynch candidate?
  11. During the first Question, Answer and Voting stage,whose actions did you find scummy and why?
  12. No Q from Self
BV gets a strike for missing the stage

CMAR may have question ordder a bit out of the actual order
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Post Post #90 (isolation #16) » Fri Feb 12, 2010 5:30 am

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CryMeARiver wrote:
@ Mod...is it true that the VS resets after each stage?
Yes it is
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Post Post #91 (isolation #17) » Fri Feb 12, 2010 5:32 am

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bv has requested replacement. Waiting from response from my replacement list.
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Post Post #94 (isolation #18) » Sat Feb 13, 2010 5:38 am

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I'm going to continue searching for a replacement, and day will be extended till then (Probs only going to be another 24 hours)
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Post Post #95 (isolation #19) » Sun Feb 14, 2010 4:29 am

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bv310
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The Inquisition

I've prodded the bottom two and am still
spamming
lobbying for a replacement
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Post Post #97 (isolation #20) » Sun Feb 14, 2010 4:38 am

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No, I'm aiming to get a replacement before then. Otherwise it screws the town over by limiting discussion even more.
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Post Post #99 (isolation #21) » Sun Feb 14, 2010 4:58 am

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No, spamming works better.

Oman is replacing bv and promises a post tomorrow. So you have until Oman's post the it will go to voting stage 2
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Post Post #101 (isolation #22) » Mon Feb 15, 2010 12:47 pm

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I appear to have forgotten to send Oman his role PM. Anyway, I'm going to start searching for a replacement for Sanhora unless (s)he shows up in the next stage.
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Post Post #102 (isolation #23) » Tue Feb 16, 2010 9:01 am

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Well, I've decided I've held the game up long enough as any longer and people will stop paying attention.

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Post Post #114 (isolation #24) » Wed Feb 17, 2010 4:31 am

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No... you may not.
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Post Post #124 (isolation #25) » Thu Feb 18, 2010 9:37 am

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It's Question Stage
- So you can ask questions

VC:

The Inquisition - 6 (Kirbyoshi, farside22, CryMeARiver, Cobalt, DragonsofSummer, Sanhora)
DragonsofSummer - 3 (Netopalis, Doombunny9, The Inquisition)
CryMeARiver - 2 (Danny Debonair DiPetro, Ellibereth)
Ellibereth - 1 (Oman)
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Post Post #129 (isolation #26) » Sat Feb 20, 2010 5:32 am

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I'll give 24 hours to next answer stage as I won't be able to update thread before then.
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Post Post #134 (isolation #27) » Sun Feb 21, 2010 5:21 am

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Answer Stage 3


I'm busier than expected so can't collate them for you but you can officially start answering questions now.
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Post Post #138 (isolation #28) » Tue Feb 23, 2010 4:39 am

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Ta-Da about an hour then it's voting stage.
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Post Post #142 (isolation #29) » Tue Feb 23, 2010 5:01 am

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Okay, I'll give you until 7 (3 more hours) as I really have to go now, and then'll be the next time I can return
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Post Post #147 (isolation #30) » Tue Feb 23, 2010 8:41 am

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Without notice
The Inquisition
burst into action, as he ran across the room he drew a knife... he was running towards
Sanhora
as he reached him he slashed Sanhora's Throat then continued on his path.

People began to run away to avoid the wrath of this madman, but there was no hope for
Farside22
, who in turn let out a shrill scream as she tried to run away. Despite her attempts The Inquisition was one step ahead. He drew a bazooka and launched a missile at Farside... who was blown to the far side of the moon.

The warehouse was now smithereens meaning the town was practically destroyed (and the only building asides from houses had been destroyed). But do not worry, almost the whole town ran to their houses.
The Inquisition
was one step ahead he got his grenades and threw them into some houses. Some people were lucky enough to escape the rubble.

Ellibereth
and
Netopolis
had fallen to the grasps of the killer. Within minutes the town had reached the edge of the town and all they could see was the village burning.

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Unfortunately the inquisition was still chasing them in a melodramatic fashion. He got out a sword then rode horseback to slay his few remaining foes, first it was
doombunny9


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But before long
Dragons of Summer
and
Cobalt
had been killed also.

So
The Inquisition
ran to the top of a cliff, then his horse and he fell off said cliff to their certain doom

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Our thoughts go to the family's of the following:

Sanhora, The Evil Host, Killed Day 1
Farside22, Sacrificial Mafia, Killed Day 1

Ellibereth, Cop, Killed Day 1

Netopalis, Vanilla Townie, Killed Day 1
Doombunny9, Vanilla Townie, Killed Day 1
DragonsofSummer, Vanilla Townie, Killed Day 1
Cobalt, Vanilla Townie, Killed Day 1


And I forgot

The Inquisition, Enraged Townie, Suicided Day 1
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Post Post #158 (isolation #31) » Fri Feb 26, 2010 7:07 am

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Vote Count:

CryMeARiver (2): Debonair Danny DiPetro, Kirbyoshi
Debonair Danny DiPetro (1): CryMeARiver

Not Voting (1): Oman

Oman has been prodded.

Dawn has passed, all powers have been reloaded.

Day 2, Question Stage


4 Alive, 3 To Lynch
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Post Post #162 (isolation #32) » Sat Feb 27, 2010 4:17 am

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Oman has asked to replace out, so I'm going to get a replacement uber-fast then it's AS4
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Post Post #163 (isolation #33) » Sun Feb 28, 2010 2:45 am

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Ectomancer is replacing Oman. Answer Stage in approximately in 24 hours.
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Post Post #165 (isolation #34) » Sun Feb 28, 2010 4:27 am

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You can change your question for Oman if you so wish.
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Post Post #168 (isolation #35) » Mon Mar 01, 2010 7:12 am

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Answer Stage 4


Each of you have three questions I'm not going to collate as I'm feeling lazy today and have to spam people for replacements in other games.
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Post Post #177 (isolation #36) » Thu Mar 04, 2010 5:51 am

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With that CryMeARiver was revealed to be:

SCUM!!!

And town win.

Mafia

1. Sanhora
2. CryMeARiver
3. farside22

1 -> Evil Host (Manipulator)
2 -> Enforcer (Role Blocker)
3 -> Sacrificial Mobster (Sacrifices Self to kill 2 townies)

Town

4. The Inquisition -> Enraged Vanilla
5. Ellibereth --> Non-Discrete Cop
6. bv310 --> Veto Holder
7. Kirbyoshi --> Doctor (But all kills were unblockable so it was an inadvertent mountainous role)
8. DragonsofSummer
9. Cobalt
10. Doombunny9
11. Netopalis
12. Debonair Danny DiPietro

ACTIONS:

Ellibereth investigates DDD (No Result)
CMAR blocks Ellibereth
The Inquisition kills pretty much everything.

Slightly Psychotic Mafia

You are the "Slightly Psychotic Mafia".

Sanhora is the Slightly Psychotic Host who, upon the entering of a new phase can make me add one "Host Comment". Maximum 100 words. This will be posted when the next stage begins AFTER the 72 hour delay
This ability can be use once every lynch, or once every 2 Q&A phases.

CryMeARiver is the Slightly Psychotic Enforcer who can roleblock a player for the next 72 hours, as all active power roles have a 72 hour delay this means if that player has already sent an action it will be nullified.
This ability can be use once every lynch, or once every 2 Q&A phases.

Farside22 is the Slightly Psychotic Sacrificial Mobster who can sacrifice herself in order to kill two town members.
This ability can be used only once, and if you are targeted during your 72 hour delay you will die as well as the player(s) who targeted you.

You do not have a group kill and you win when the money-grabbing townies are eliminate
Money-Grabbing Town

You are an
enraged townie
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Scum
Third Party - If Exist
Power Roles - If Exist
Town

You will go down the list and kill players until you reach an out of order result (e.g. Scum after Townie), where, instead, you will die yourself. Unlike other roles there is no delay for this.

Say if you guessed Scum, Third Party then Power Role then Scum then Vanilla you would kill the first three people.

If you guessed Vanilla, Vanilla, Scum, you would kill the two vanilla townies.

This role may mean you have some questions so send me a shout if you have any questions.

You win if all the anti-town forces are eliminated.
You are the Cop

All of your partners have said you are over the top with your investigations, but you strive for perfection.

During the first Voting Stage of a day you may choose to investigate a player instead of voting. You will receive a guilty result if they are mafia, or an innocent result if they are town.

Once you investigate correctly (mafia) you cannot continue with this dangerous career and revert to being vanilla.

You win when all mafia are dead
You are the Veto-Holder

Once per game you can protect a player from lynch for the rest of the next day. Once this has been done you revert to being a normal townie who intends to protect the players from the evil quiz-show players.

You win when all other quiz show players are dead.
You are the Doctor of the town.

You can protect players for 72 hours, preventing any attempts on their life made during this period. This ability cannot be used again until the following day.

You win when all mafiates are dead.
You are plain and simple town.

You kill the mafiates and you can go home. YAYAYAYAYAY!

You can kill the mafiates with an incredibly power, democracy... w00t!!! What can I say? Talk about power roles, eh?

You win if all anti-town forces are eliminated.
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Mafia Host + Suicidal Killer


The slightly psychotic host was originally intended as a role not to mislead the town but to alter the towns perception of the game. I would have allowed posts that say "you may only post one question" for example. This discrete manipulation could have been a powerful tool for the mafia.

I felt that with this additional power that somewhere the mafia should be weakened, and with me having the not-so-discrete-cop I had to reduce the power they received from the kill. This suicidal killer is most useful in endgame, reducing safe town victory situations to lylo.

On the note of the host I am disappointed they didn't get inventive, I liked the role. I liked the idea behind the role however I didn't want to make it clear what they could and couldn't use it for. It made the game potentially swingy enough, they could say "You can only post one letter answers to each question" and that would ruin the town, but once they got an idea that the town would take the host's words as they would eventually get the idea they were
literally
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Not-So-Discrete-Cop and Roleblocker


This idea is one I came up with when I had a conversation in MD with skruffs (I think) where in effect he said any role could have any flavour. I thought about this and realised that a potential weakening of the cop role would be that it's practically no secret that a role has acted.

Due to this obvious cop investigation I gave scum a counter role. In effect this pairing would negate each-other until one died. The cop would probably get no results, yet the RB would spend all their time blocking the cop.

Enraged Townie


So much maths I did to ensure this role would be fair. I did sums after sums of what could happen. Basically, this role was super swingy, the issue with the role and why I'm not using it again is that it was just that. For this game I felt something was necessary to speed it up. It takes a week to get any proper evidence against somebody. And if you want somebody to clarify something you waste effort posting.

If the role didn't exist I'm sure that this game would have got dull quickly. I, however, did not expect it to be used so soon. The amazing thing is that if Inquisition didn't nail scum then I would have expected many players to continue on.

The Useless Doctor + Veto-Holder


Both are roles I never expected to change the game much, claiming situations they may be believed but not cared about much anyway. The main reason for these was to allow more scope for error with the enraged townie. If it weren't for these scum would have won the game. Chances that he hit all power-roles in a row made it acceptably unlikely for game to end with a mafia win post killings.

Endgame Discussion Commences


On a side note, this game had been intended for a while to be a somewhat interesting game. I had some more roles I wanted in that have interesting pairings but I'm leaving those until a later date.

Comments etc.?

(I'm sure people think it's imbalanced and after the game so do I tbh)
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Post Post #181 (isolation #37) » Thu Mar 04, 2010 8:00 am

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The main purpose of this mechanic was actually to test the water for something I want to do that builds upon Q&A. See where the flaws lie etc. Once I see that the larger version will be better. I expect there to be a comment stage added after.

Question
Answer
Comment
Vote

The next possibility is making it sort of like you suggest - just not the same. You have a comment period then you have to accuse someone of a crime.

Attacking Case
Questions (to defender)
Answers (from defender)

Defense Case
Questions (to prosecutor)
Answers (from prosecutor)

Voting (either Accuser or Defender - ultimatum style)

I have a few others, but this will help in the future. I think this proves that a random question stage can lead to finding scum. As it has evidently worked.

Some other solutions I'm not going to go into as much detail with:
Continuous Q&A (You have your 11 questions and can use them over a prolonged period, not necessarily one for each player)
Chat Show Style (Question, Answer, Response to Answer, Response to Response continue then next question etc. This would allow some wifom to be induced do you respond to answers yourself or let a more adept scum hunter do so)
Interview with... (Player at a time, could be boring for other players though)

That's all I have. No doubt there are more though
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Post Post #187 (isolation #38) » Thu Mar 04, 2010 9:24 am

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I think the modding needed to be a bit more active than it was, if you're going to run a game like this with very tight phases you need to be around to be indicating that the phases of the game are shifting and towards the end it feels almost like the players took over and simply advanced things when we got bored enough.
I agree with this actually, the way that work seemed to fall was unlucky, probably easier to run the sequel to this in the summer when more time is on my hands.

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