Mini 901: Real Time Mafia (Over)

[Snow_Bunny]

/confirm.

Yay! I'm first!

[Snow_Bunny]

Hai manho! Hai Tony! Hai Vaya!

[Snow_Bunny]

Hai manho! Hai Tony! Hai Vaya!

Ahem.

Hai two-headed Plum/Pomegranate. What a tasty fruit we have here.

[Snow_Bunny]

Chu chu chu!

Vote: Elli

[Snow_Bunny]

I don't think all policy lynches are anti-town, I am just not seeing anything bad on CSL so far.

However, over-eagerness to get one is another point.

[Snow_Bunny]

Vote: Elli

I don't like how he pursued the CSL's policy wagon so hard.

[Snow_Bunny]

12 Alive

Snow Bunny ( 0 )
DeathRowKitty ( 2 ) Annachie manho
bigmc109 ( 0 )
Vaya ( 1 ) Juls
Ellibereth ( 1 ) Snow Bunny
malpascp ( 2 ) Ellibereth DeathRowKitty
Plumegranate ( 1 ) TonyMontana
Juls ( 0 )
Bogre ( 0 )
manho ( 0 )
TonyMontana ( 0 )
Annachie ( 0 )
No Lynch ( 5 ) bigmc109 Vaya malpascp Plumegranate Bogre
Total Votes ( 12 )

With 12 alive, 7 needed to lynch.
Next Lynch Available at: January 9th 00:00 EST
Lynch Will Be: No Lynch

vote: Vaya

for no posts in pregame.

As far as I know and remember, Vaya doesn't usually participate a lot in D1.

[Snow_Bunny]

Elli, another wagon based on actually nothing?

[Snow_Bunny]

12 Alive

Snow Bunny ( 0 )
DeathRowKitty ( 5 ) manho Vaya TonyMontana Juls malpascp
bigmc109 ( 0 )
Vaya ( 0 )
Ellibereth ( 3 ) Snow Bunny Plumegranate bigmc109
malpascp ( 1 ) Ellibereth
Plumegranate ( 0 )
Juls ( 0 )
Bogre ( 0 )
manho ( 1 ) Annachie
TonyMontana ( 0 )
Annachie ( 1 ) DeathRowKitty
No Lynch ( 1 ) Bogre
Total Votes ( 12 )

With 12 alive, 7 needed to lynch.
Next Lynch Available at: January 9th 00:00 EST
Lynch Will Be: No Lynch

Again, based on what?

[Snow_Bunny]

I agree with bigmc that trying to setup lynches so fast is scummy. And thus, Elli eagerness to lynch is scummy. We don't know for sure the recharge time of the mafia NK, and thus, rushing lynches for the sake of lynching is not good. And Elli has done nothing but support that. Also, the omgusing against bigmc doesn't help either.

DRK: I usually post once a day,

in almost all games

, and I had not much to add rather than Elli seems to be searching for weak reasons to wagon somebody. CLS' policy wagon and Mal's wagon based on actually nothing is not good. You are behind, as well, but I find Elli top suspicious.

[Snow_Bunny]

elli started off the game by proposing we put a majority on CSL instantly.

true. but when read in the context of being in a game with real time mechanics, the motivation certainly seemed protown. also, the majority would only matter if town couldn't find a lynch candidate. as i recall the proposal was to create a "back-up" lynch based on policy. a literally interpreted policy lynch is "quick" by nature, so adding the word "quick" to the accusation at all just seems like an attempt to place more suspicion than is warranted on an otherwise harmless suggestion.

Pro-town? Setting up the lynch of a player, who has done nothing yet, in case we can't find someone "better" is pro-town for you? I do not believe that lynching just for the sake of meeting a 7-day deadline is pro-town.

196 seems like a big waste of space. exactly what is snowbunny doing for us?

I'm hunting scum. What are you doing?
Funny, this seems like you are trying to discredit me in order to make me back off from Elli. Huh.

snowbunny: would you consider yourself "eager" to lynch Elli? if not, who do you propose as a deadline wagon? or do you think a no lynch or weak wagon is better for town?

I am not "eager". But I do find Elli suspicious. Again, I do not propose anyone as a deadline wagon. I prefer town waits a couple of day more if needed than just lynching for the sake of meeting the deadline.

FoS: DJ

If Elli flips up scum, I'll be looking for you.

[Snow_Bunny]

So, you are saying that you better weak-lynch someone than wait a bit more to gain more info and thus possibly get a better lynch? I am not against lynching every 7 days, btw. I am against lynching for the sake of lynching. In fact, I'm all on an Elli or DRK lynch, but policy lynching just to meet a deadline is not good. That town-directed kill will likely end up harming more town than scum.

[Snow_Bunny]

Though I want an Elli wagon, I will switch to DRK if needed.

Btw, Elli, yet another wagon just like that? It seems like you are going for "weak" targets. It's a shame you are looked "pro-town" by a few other players. :-/

[Snow_Bunny]

Though I want an Elli wagon, I will switch to DRK if needed.

Btw, Elli, yet another wagon just like that? It seems like you are going for "weak" targets. It's a shame you are looked "pro-town" by a few other players. :-/

It's a shame because you don't have the balls to go after someone if it's risky?

Yep, you're right. I don't have the balls. Though, it's disturbing to know that you are expecting a girls to have balls. Ewww...

[Snow_Bunny]

SB gives me gut scum feelings, probably really null.

Nah, you're reading it wrong. I am town, so adjust your reading accordingly.

SB's admission to not have the balls for real scumhunting, which amusing, makes me frown. Seriously. I'm a girl and my other fruit is a girl. We have the balls.

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Ah... It was a joke. My, I never thought someone would take that as seriously! I didn't even get what he was trying to say. I just ignored the comment and went for a joke. D:

[Snow_Bunny]

Vote: Annachie

Why? Another reasonless wagon-jumping?

DRK is town, Annachie is scum.
Assuming that the amount of town > scum in the neighborhood, DRK claiming and revealing his neighbors was the right thing to do. If DRK was scum, and he claimed such (when his lynch is looking already all but inevitable in face of the deadline), it would virtually confirm two members of the town after his flip.

We have 2 hours to get Annachie lynched.

Again, why? What makes you think DRK is town? And what makes you think Annachie is scum?

You see, in the quick topic I found something that made me believe DRK is scum. I agree with the points brought up by Annachie, and thus:

Unvote, vote: DRK

Elli's buddying with DRK and wagon-jumping is noted as well. If DRK flips town, and taking into account something he said in the QT, I'll be looking after dj.

[Snow_Bunny]

Well, all I can say is that you, DRK, wanted a wagon, not a lynch, on CSL. You also wanted a wagon of yourself to compete with that of CSL. Though, what you really wanted is beyond me. Hope that clear things out. However, you can't rely on your neighbours to counter what you post in thread.

[Snow_Bunny]

DRK, could you at least claim? Or are you plain VT-neighbour?

[Snow_Bunny]

11 Alive

Snow Bunny ( 3 ) Juls Ellibereth Flareonage
DeathRowKitty ( 0 )
bigmc109 ( 0 )
don_johnson ( 0 )
Ellibereth ( 0 )
Flareonage ( 1 ) Snow Bunny
Plumegranate ( 0 )
Juls ( 0 )
farside22 ( 0 )
manho ( 0 )
TonyMontana ( 0 )
Fishythefish ( 0 )
No Lynch ( 7 ) manho TonyMontana Fishythefish Plumegranate don_johnson farside22 bigmc109
Total Votes ( 11 )

With 11 alive, 6 needed to lynch.
Next Lynch Available at: January 16th 00:01 EST
Lynch Will Be: No Lynch

DRK said something scum would only said (from my point of view, of course). A sort of threat.

@Elli: Why suddenly vote for me when you thought Ann was the other scum? Also, I agree that talking about ongoing games is a big no-no.

@Flare: Stop acting like a sheep. You have done nothing but following wagons without adding anything new, and not even worrying about finding something about other players.

Dj's 278 set me off as scum trying to gain more information from scum. But reading the first paragraph shows that he didn't know there were three neighbours, and thus, I'm leaning towards either one of these: he is town; he is scum and there are no scum neighbours.

I am town, and I haven't gotten a scummy read on Ann. And thus, I am leaning to believe that all neighbours are town.

Vote: Flareonage

[Snow_Bunny]

snow_bunny: Please explain why you were willing to vote for elli over DKR but had issues on policy lynching.

Are you implying that I was policy-lynching either of them?

[Snow_Bunny]

Sorry I had Eli and DRK flipped.
Why the switch from eli to DRK with so little

Though I want an Elli wagon, I will switch to DRK if needed.

Btw, Elli, yet another wagon just like that? It seems like you are going for "weak" targets. It's a shame you are looked "pro-town" by a few other players. :-/

DRK: I usually post once a day,

in almost all games

, and I had not much to add rather than Elli seems to be searching for weak reasons to wagon somebody. CLS' policy wagon and Mal's wagon based on actually nothing is not good. You are behind, as well, but I find Elli top suspicious.

So, you are saying that you better weak-lynch someone than wait a bit more to gain more info and thus possibly get a better lynch? I am not against lynching every 7 days, btw. I am against lynching for the sake of lynching. In fact, I'm all on an Elli or DRK lynch, but policy lynching just to meet a deadline is not good. That town-directed kill will likely end up harming more town than scum.

Both DRK and Elli were suspicious. Why then wouldn't I want either of them lynched? You are trying to imply my vote came out of nowhere. I might not have made a case against either of them, but that doesn't change the fact that I thought both of them were scum (Elli's still there). And, as I also said, DRK said something in the QT that pushed him on top Elli.

Elli's still scummy, but so is Flare.

When a lynch is every 7 days or so, you can't expect each lynchee to have a strong case (specially on D1) before dying. I don't see why you call it policy lynching, as I gave my reasons. :-/

[Snow_Bunny]

Ah, also:

Mod: I'm VLA until Tuesday.

[Snow_Bunny]

First of all, let me claim: I'm the town jailkeeper, neighbour with Fishy (Ann) and DRK. I think that Ann was town (and thus Fishy), which makes me think all neighbours are town.

Snow bunny makes 0 sense to me.
Why do you still fail to say what DRK that made you think he was scum?
You berated me for voting Flare a few pages ago...

...I also still have a scumread on Ann right now.

What exactly doesn't make sense to you? Tell me, so I can use paper and pencil to explain. I can't quote anything from the QT, you know. It was something DRK said that I can't see a townie saying. Fishy can confirm, as I already posted what was in there.

Also, it's funny how you have the two remaining neighbours as scum. Such a great way to ensure the lynch of either of us.

I don't understand bunny's position Did she think both eli and DRK scum for discussion a policy lynch? Why is this scummy as it takes a majority to agree to a policy lynch.

Eli didn't discuss a policy lynch. He WANTED and PURSUED it. I can't see protown reasons to setup a lynch that way. You see, in many opportunities I've seen town be guided as a sheep, and if we have a "backup lynch", chances are that we won't try as hard to find scum.

Bunny:

Pushes on Eli case based on the policy lynch of CSL. Excuses players (vaya) lurkering using meta.

This feels like she is telegraphing her vote her:

DRK: I usually post once a day, in almost all games, and I had not much to add rather than Elli seems to be searching for weak reasons to wagon somebody. CLS' policy wagon and Mal's wagon based on actually nothing is not good. You are behind, as well, but I find Elli top suspicious.

This is my biggest problem:

I do not believe that lynching just for the sake of meeting a 7-day deadline is pro-town.

however:

Though I want an Elli wagon, I will switch to DRK if needed.

She press's on Eli or DRK based on the policy lynch view, however it never went off beyond the pregame and her holding onto it seems weak.

vote: snow_bunny

I fail to see the contradiction there. I think Elli is scum. Lynching scum =/= lynching for the sake of lynching. You are all fixated on thinking that the only thing I have against Elli is the policy lynch (and on DRK the same), when I have pointed out other things. Reasonless wagon-jumping. That certainty which he points out DRK is town Ann is scum. Eagerness to lynch (unlike you, I find this a scumtell).

@Plum: I really don't get your reasons to vote for me, and that big post (379) seems just like a opportunistic jump on the wagon. You say a lot of things to other players, but yet you say that "I'm scummier" without pointing out why. I'm scummier than Flaresheep? I'm scummier because I lurk despise being other players who have lurked more?

vote: Snow_bunny

Gonna do some more reading, but I like what I've ready regarding snow today.

Still waiting for this.

I don't agree with the policy lynch on CSL (Me) of course.

I think our best bet is the 2 remaining neighbors. That's why my vote is on Snow Bunny

No, you're vote is on me because I'm the largest wagon.

And then you wonder why I call the town sheep.

It's funny, you know, how you are going after the neighbours. What are you going to do after I flip town? Lynch Ann based on the "two-towns-one-scum-neighbour-thingy"? Excellent way of scum to get rid of possibly confirmed townies without having to use their kills.

Oh, and regardless the no-scum kill yet, I might have something to say about that. If we base our theories on scum killing as soon as they can, and their power recharging after 7 days (based on my own power and the duration of a day), I think I have found something interesting.

[Snow_Bunny]

You see, if I claimed who my target was, there was a chance scum would use that information. A jailkeeper doubles as a doc, you know.

[Snow_Bunny]

You see, if I claimed who my target was, there was a chance scum would use that information. A jailkeeper doubles as a doc, you know.

Maybe I'm being dense, but I don't see how scum would use the information.
I'm suggesting you claim your past target, not any future ones.

Ok, let's take for granted the mod's post 40:

A Rule clarification:

An action that comes in during the middle of a duration does that action beginning at that point.

Take two examples:
Doctor: Duration 10 days
Roleblocker: Duration 5 days
Doctor protects X on Day 0. Roleblocker blocks Doc starting on Day 2.
Result: X is protected from Day 0-2, not protected from Days 2-7, then is protected again from Day 7-10.

In this case, the action did not FAIL, thus the recharge time will be the full recharge time and not the half or 4 days whichever comes first.

Another example:
Framer: Duration 5 Days
Tracker: Duration 5 Days
Framer frames X beginning Day 0. Tracker tracks Day 2.
Result: Framer frames X without being seen Day 0. On Day 2, Tracker tracks and sees that Framer is visiting X.

I hope that makes things clearer rather than more complicated. Any other questions, don't hesitate to direct to me.

If scum knows who I am jailing, they won't target that person for a time. Or, if I have jailed scum, that scum won't submit the kill as he might lose the action. Or, if I claim to have not used the ability yet, they might hurry and try to target someone before I send my action. Or, etc, etc, etc. Giving more info to the scum is not good for town.

[Snow_Bunny]

snow: I'm going to ask you the same question I asked big. What has been your experience on the site from people who lynch based on policy lynch?

My experience tells me that it ends usually in a town lynch. And a non-informative one.

[Snow_Bunny]

Null tell. However, the point here is not the discussion of that. The point here is the eagerness of it was pursued. In a normal game you have like two-three weeks to talk about it. Here, Elli wanted the lynch as soon as possible to leave it as backup and then discuss. With the small amount of time (a week) chances are the lynch would stay like that.

Take for example, my current situation. I am going to be the lynch unless town decides someone else is scummier in what, 4 or 5 days? Chances are I'm going to end up lynched (unless scum acts blatantly scummy) even if town no longer feels I'm scummy. Why? Because we would need another candidate.

[Snow_Bunny]

Null tell. However, the point here is not the discussion of that. The point here is the eagerness of it was pursued. In a normal game you have like two-three weeks to talk about it. Here, Elli wanted the lynch as soon as possible to leave it as backup and then discuss. With the small amount of time (a week) chances are the lynch would stay like that.

Take for example, my current situation. I am going to be the lynch unless town decides someone else is scummier in what, 4 or 5 days? Chances are I'm going to end up lynched (unless scum acts blatantly scummy) even if town no longer feels I'm scummy. Why? Because we would need another candidate.

But if your town would you advicate looking for policy lynches to secure your position or would you scum hunt?
What if the person you feel is most town is up for lynch and no one seems to agree with who to lynch do you think targeting the anti-town policy lynch is bad at that point or do you hold true to your feelings and lynch a person you feel is town.

Well, if no one is a good option for a deadline lynch, then yes, I would advocate for a lynch of an anti-town player. However, this anti-towness should be proved as the day go on, not as a first resource. For example, I would advocate for a CSL policy lynch if he acted anti-town in this topic. But, in order to know that, some amount of time and post must be required. Meta is one thing I don't use often, as the way a player plays a particular game does not necessarily inform about how a player will play another particular game.

[Snow_Bunny]

Of course you have missed it because you are not reading the thread. You just look at the current votecount and hop in the largest wagon.

[Snow_Bunny]

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Why? Why, oh mighty god of randomness that decides upon the roles, why can't I ever have a vigshot when I need it?

[Snow_Bunny]

I can't believe I got majority of votes when we have Flare just right there.

Sheep town makes me sad. T_T

[Snow_Bunny]

You believe me? Believe what? Are you actually reading the topic? Why that vote?

[Snow_Bunny]

I believe that one of the three neighbors is scum (Didn't we all?). Now that Snow bunny has role claimed then we should switch to the remaining neighbor. If that fails then I'm an idiot

Then you are an idiot. READ THE DAMN TOPIC AND DO SOMETHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It might just be me, but Plum's mafia lessons to Flare are noted.

[Snow_Bunny]

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Why? Why, oh mighty god of randomness that decides upon the roles, why can't I ever have a vigshot when I need it?

QFT ^
now you know why some people believe in policy lynch too.

Yes, I can see now. Though, I've never been a fan of policy lynching. For me, it's just like a scum point that adds to a case, but not a case in itself.

[Snow_Bunny]

@Juls: Why do you want me to claim my target, if any? I would claim my targets once the time has gone, but I won't when I have not decided to use my action or when the action is in progress. Tell me, what exactly do town win knowing who I targeted?

[Snow_Bunny]

Ok, time must have elapsed already.

I jailed the twin fruit, Pum.

Unvote, vote: bigmac

Flare's wagon is not moving. Farside's 425 is appealing, and I rather lynch him that is not confirmed in my eyes than let me hang (I know I'm town and thus I definitively know that it is a bad move to lynch me.)

[Snow_Bunny]

No, that isn't the only way. You know, we could always lynch Flare. I still think he's the best option out there.

I chose Pum just because. Seemed to me like the most solid player out there, and that could only mean a good town or a good scum. Jailing works wonder with both.

[Snow_Bunny]

Vote: Flare

Come on, this is the one.

[Snow_Bunny]

So, Juls, do you prefer to lynch the lurker than the newbie, when taking into account that lurkers can be replaced and that the newbie has done nothing but act scummy?

[Snow_Bunny]

From the QT and the game, I got a feeling Ann was town. Fishy hasn't done anything particularly to move up or down from that.

[Snow_Bunny]

Me too.

I'm trusting Elli on this one

Unvote

VOTE: Fishy

No, you're just acting like a sheep again.

[Snow_Bunny]

It makes sense that a JOAT doubles as a vig, but then the "other" option Fishy chose wouldn't. I mean, by "other" I was thinking something between the lines of voting ability or lynching.

[Snow_Bunny]

@Flare: That's kind of far-fetched. IMO, gunsmith is as hard, or even harder, to fakeclaim as a cop. A very high-risk low-reward gambit, imo.

@Fishy: I myself would have said either any of them or wait and fullclaim. Because by "other" I was thinking in voting abilities.

Come on guys, you know the right move is to lynch Flare.

[Snow_Bunny]

Good points against Pum and Juls, but I rather lynch Flare today.

Oh, and yes, I targeted someone. It would be quite interesting if there hasn't been a NK for that.

[Snow_Bunny]

It would be ironic if Fishy was scum.

Why?

[Snow_Bunny]

Well, seeing as how my action has ended, I can as well claim who I targeted. I targeted Elli. In regards of the lack of scum kill, we can say:

1- Elli was the target of the kill, and it failed (Elli town)
2- Elli was the one who was supposed to perform the scum kill, and thus it was blocked (Elli scum)
3- Scum hasn't sent a kill yet (Elli ?)

I myself lean towards 1, but Elli's jumpiness is suspicious, I must admit. 3 is ridiculous, as I can't see my scum would forfeit their kill (or, maybe, they have a greater recharge time that we expect, still, I don't buy it). 2 is possible as well, but Elli's claim make it less possible (unless of course, we're talking of a Elli-Fishy scum team). One way or another, Elli's and Fishy's role can be confirmed later on.

[Snow_Bunny]

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Timestamp:1/22 12:01 EST

Ellibereth the Town Gunsmith was Killed

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-_-U

Last time I'm outing my target.

Faraday, I'm curious, what's with the wifom in me targeting Pom? You know, it's wifomer the path you are taking assuming the kill and my comment had something to do.

@Dj: Why is it time, again?

[Snow_Bunny]

7 Alive

Snow Bunny ( 1 ) Fishythefish
DeathRowKitty ( 0 )
don_johnson ( 1 ) animorpherv1
Flareonage ( 0 )
animorpherv1 ( 0 )
Juls ( 0 )
farside22 ( 0 )
manho ( 0 )
Fishythefish ( 1 ) Snow Bunny
No Lynch ( 4 ) Juls manho farside22 don_johnson
Total Votes ( 7 )

With 7 alive, 4 needed to lynch.
Next Lynch Available at: January 30th 00:01 EST
Lynch Will Be: No Lynch

I fail to see a connection between my claim and Elli's death. If any, scum is waiting for me to claim to make the kill.

Fishy, btw, I would love to see a proof of your claim. You claimed yesterday, I'm guessing you have something as of now worth of claiming.

In conclusion, proof or die.

Vote: Fishy

[Snow_Bunny]

I had a protown read on you. In fact, I kind of still have it. But we can't ignore Elli's claim, and your unwillingness to claim make you suspicious.

For example, I fail to see a reason as of why not investigate someone. Useful info for town, you know.

[Snow_Bunny]

First of all SB did fishy actually say anything to you in the QT about noticing the timing of the first kill?
Second I have to say that vote from SB comes off as OMGUS.
Finally I agree with SB some info from fishy in regards to his JOAT ability and anything he learned would be helpful

1- Yes, however, as I said to him, those aren't facts. For all I know, scum can have a recharge time of one day, and just decided to use it after I claimed. And, as I told him, I find rather suspicious that he tries to use that as a fact. I've caught more than one scum this way, you know.
2- Yes, a bit omgus, I agree. I also agree that I don't get a strong scum feeling from fishy. However, there's something there telling me that something's odd.
3- I agree with myself too.

Ani's case is good. Loving it. Lack of Dj's reply makes it better.

[Snow_Bunny]

Why must I tell you of everything I think?

I don't understand at all manho's 636.

[Snow_Bunny]

7 Alive

Snow Bunny ( 1 ) Fishythefish
DeathRowKitty ( 0 )
don_johnson ( 1 ) animorpherv1
Flareonage ( 0 )
animorpherv1 ( 0 )
Juls ( 0 )
farside22 ( 0 )
manho ( 0 )
Fishythefish ( 1 ) Snow Bunny
No Lynch ( 4 ) Juls manho farside22 don_johnson
Total Votes ( 7 )

With 7 alive, 4 needed to lynch.
Next Lynch Available at: January 30th 00:01 EST
Lynch Will Be: No Lynch

No, it's not reasonable to predict the second kill would be around 10 days after the start. It's an assumption that I decided to not make. That makes me scummy?

Also, we're missing another point here. You are assuming the kill is instantaneously. I wonder, why can't it has a lapse of time just like my ability? The ability kills as soon as possible, but if blocked it waits until the protection wears off (or until the ability's timer ends).

@farside: I must have missed your question. I thought fishy answered well enough for what you asked.

@fishy: Though I had a town read on you, that doesn't mean you are confirmed in my eyes, and thus I have no reason to say you everything I think.

[Snow_Bunny]

I'm sorry I'm confused a bit. SB your ability does not kick in as soon as you PM the mod?
Fishy do you have this same delay?

No, you're getting it wrong. My ability kicks in as soon as I PM the mod, but it last for some days before wearing off. I'm saying the same thing could happen to the scum kill.

[Snow_Bunny]

@fishy: I worked under the assumption of seven days recharge time. My line of thoughts were the following: scum used first NK some time after it got charged to create a false impression about the duration. The second NK then would have been harder to prevent.

Also, I used it when Elli said that she had info about you and feared she might get killed.

Oh! That reminds me something really interesting the mod said. If an action is blocked, the recharge time is less than if it wasn't blocked. So, it is entirely possible that I blocked the first assassination attempt against Elli, but couldn't prevent the second one.

@farside: My ability lasts long enough. Thanks for asking.

[Snow_Bunny]

I really don't see the case that farside is making on Snow_Bunny.

[Snow_Bunny]

What doesn't add up? Really, I don't follow at all. For your information, with "last long enough" meant "I won't tell you until I find it necessary". You are using a very shaky logic here, trying to use timers and recharge as scumhunting (when you have no proof of them, unless of course, you are scum), when it is obviously leading you to wrong conclusions.

[Snow_Bunny]

MY ANSWER WAS LONG ENOUGH AS A MEAN TO SAY THAT I WON'T TELL YOU! It has nothing to do with the actual duration, which can be 1, 2, 3 or even more days. Why the hell you are clinging to that?

I never said you were scummy, not at least in the last posts. Have I said that? I used the ability on Elli as soon as the request from him came. I did not give a second thought from timers and that crap. You know why? Because that's how I play! Too much thoughts on a single matter can make you draw any number of conclusions, most of them wrong. And thus, I rather go with quick actions, and then see what happens.

Oh, and btw, Fishy is not mason. At least I don't know his alignment. And even if I knew his alignment, I had no reason to listen to him if I don't want to. But you seems so sure he is town. Makes me wonder why. See? That's the kind of thing I do.

This actually makes me thing fishy is town, and you are scum. You are making a mountain out of a snowball, and makes me think you are just drawing for a quicklynch to give scum higher chances of winning.

Unvote, vote: farside

It's not omgus. I fail to see your reasons of your case. They are all based on assumptions of fishy's alignment, scum timer, and my own ability's timer, none of them you

shouldn't

know. Yet you act as if you do.

[Snow_Bunny]

Mason = confirmed alignment.
Neighbour = not confirmed.

Got that? Or must I use stick figures?

[Snow_Bunny]

Mod: I'm moving to a new house, and thus I'm LA until new advice. I'll at least try to keep up.

[Snow_Bunny]

7 Alive

Snow Bunny ( 2 ) Fishythefish farside22
don_johnson ( 2 ) animorpherv1 don_johnson
animorpherv1 ( 1 ) manho
Juls ( 0 )
farside22 ( 1 ) Snow Bunny
manho ( 0 )
Fishythefish ( 0 )
No Lynch ( 1 ) Juls
Total Votes ( 7 )

With 7 alive, 4 needed to lynch.
Next Lynch Available at: January 30th 00:01 EST
Lynch Will Be: No Lynch

Right, access is going to be a bit spotty until deadline. I'll be able to get on and vote and stuff, though. Players in the game:

farside: town
manho: probable town
Juls: no read to speak of. Wasn't comfortable with his play around the manho wagon. Needs to get his reads out there asap after his V/LA.
ani: didn't have much of a read on p-fruit. I'm not sure I quite believe ani's case. Leaning scum
dj: Not comfortable with the change in his play at this important stage.
SB: most likely scum
Of the scummy players, the two who correlate well are ani and SB - ani's attack on dj came as SB was coming under pressure, and they've been ignoring both the wagons on each other and the cases they each made. I'm happy with lynching SB at the moment.

i have a similar scum list with fishy probably town, except that SB is more likely pro-town than ani now, but still, they are my top 2 suspect and i'm happy with both lynch.

vote: ani

@ani, do you think SB is scum? and the reason?
@SB, do you think ani is scum? and the reason?

No, I don't think ani is scum. I had my suspicious on Plum, but they weren't strong. He's also not appeared under my radar yet. So, I'm scummy for not attacking a player that has not shown in my radar yet, and that my last impression was a weak suspicious? Right...

SB do you think that vote on me is doing you any good? Who is scum right now and why? What do you think about animorph's/plums play this game and where do you stand on the lynch of him?

My vote on you? Are you sure you are reading things right? My vote's on Fishy. I think Dj right now is scummy, but I find Fishy to be top. And, I hope you got things right after I flip town, should I ever be lynched.

Also, useful =/= town. Just a note.

Oh, and, btw,

Mod: why are Flare and DRK still on the votecount?

[Snow_Bunny]

Good game scum.

Interesting mechanic, but it was in reality a bit troublesome for town.