899 FABLES- THE GRIMMAFIA GAME - The End. Mod Sucks.

[MonkeyMan576]

Vote: Grimmy

[MonkeyMan576]

Did you read the instructions?

FOS: malpascp

Since the game hasn't started yet.

[MonkeyMan576]

I see that.

[MonkeyMan576]

Talking at night
is often a fright
The mafia are waiting
for killing and baiting

[MonkeyMan576]

Vote: malpascp

because he non random voted.
That didn't make sense in the sense that he toted.
He singled me out for voting the mod.
When part of the rules it was, and everyone had.

[MonkeyMan576]

Vote: malpascp

because he non random voted.
That didn't make sense in the sense that he toted.
He singled me out for voting the mod.
When part of the rules it was, and everyone had.

Once again I must reiterate, if you do not have a pr making you rhyme, please do not. If you do and are able to state somehow that you do in your prose, then please do.

If it is a restriction, I cannot say
weather or not I had my way.
But rhyming should not be a tell
Wheather or not you do it well.

[MonkeyMan576]

Vote: malpascp

because he non random voted.
That didn't make sense in the sense that he toted.
He singled me out for voting the mod.
When part of the rules it was, and everyone had.

Once again I must reiterate, if you do not have a pr making you rhyme, please do not. If you do and are able to state somehow that you do in your prose, then please do.

If it is a restriction, I cannot say
weather or not I had my way.
But rhyming should not be a tell
Wheather or not you do it well.

Thank you, and you are right, rhyming is not a tell. However, rhyming when you don't have to is.

Although you may think I am aloof
Your accusation has no proof.
I intend to continue to go after scum,
until my eyelids are numb.

Of this I ask of you
Why the aversion to rhyme?
When you were a child
Did your parents not do this from time to time?

[MonkeyMan576]

Kpaca, you seem to be favoring fluff
rather than focusing on the important stuff.
PR's and lurking as tells are all well and good
but still focus on the content of posts you should.
Looking at easy targets can be seen as scummy
And relying on others research is tactics for a dummy.
Look at some of your other games I shall
And report back what I find I will.
Being non gendered does not save you from weather
But it does seem like you are trying to avoid rustling feathers.

FOS: kpaca

[MonkeyMan576]

Will and shall don't rhyme, and you didn't make a rhyme for kpaca...

GK is a better rhymer than you!

RF don't pretend we don't have a history.
Why shroud our past as some sort of mystery?
Several games in the past we have played.
I shall have to reread our past games as an aid.
I know you are always very vocal and true.
But wheather or not you are accurate I am not sure.
And an FYI, a rhyme does not have to be exact.
Look throughout history and you'll see a pact.

[MonkeyMan576]

I don't believe in fluff in mafia. Everything is important. And you are woefully incorrect if you think I am going to push cases based on concrete "tells" instead of content. There is no such thing as a "concrete tell", but there are things that point more toward certain alignments. Mindset is the most important tell, and I find that you have to read each post and try to analyze the mindset of the person involved. Also I don't recall saying I was looking for easy targets. I really don't know anything about any of you and I can't make the judgement on who is an easy target.

I will say that I find your FOS as opposed to a vote a bit disconcerting. Why not just vote?

An FOS is a valid weapon.
It is not a ploy or deception.
Very touchy you are when you are attacks
Almost as if you are afraid of a whack.
The reason for my FOS is because of said mindset
But I do not wish to change my vote just yet.

[MonkeyMan576]

I gave a reason, just because you did not hear it
does not mean I did not say it.
The player on whom my vote is is more suspicious
it does not mean that kpaca is not vicious.

[MonkeyMan576]

Oh, btw...

MM - I don't have any particular dislike towards yah.

We have a history of what... 2 games?

To be honest, I don't really see how/why you believe I hold a grudge or somesuch.

Or are you just saying you intend to meta me?

I never said you hold a grudge,
who knows you could be as yummy as fudge!
I like to know about who I've played with in culture
So I'm not suprised about what happens in the future

[MonkeyMan576]

I recognize you have stated your reason for not voting me, and I am saying that I think that you are scum, so I am voting you. Giving a reason does not mean I have to accept it as true, though it would be grand if it worked like that.

Explain to me how you have a reason
The only explanation you've given me is rhyme.
Your vote seems very OMGUS to me.
So your true affiliation will reveal in time.

[MonkeyMan576]

I'm especially wary of Monkey because at this stage of the game he is voting someone without a real reason, and FOS someone that he is providing reasons for. It appears to me to be somewhat of an attempt to help push suspicions onto me, while at the same time not quite committing to an early wagon.

I gave at least four reasons.
As many as the seasons.

[MonkeyMan576]

You gave at least 4 reasons for your FoS'd person, but you only gave one reason for your vote on mal IIRC.

Mal never gave a responce.
So he is suspicious for the neauonce.
Also changing a vote requires more scrutiny
than merely placing a vote can be seen as one's duty.

[MonkeyMan576]

Kpaca has no meta
he also has no sex
I believe this is an alt
and all one big hex.

He has enough suspicion
and bad karma around to tote
that I should change my vote.

Unvote:
Vote: kpaca

[MonkeyMan576]

I forgot but didn't need a replace.

Why you up in my face?

Oh. Right. *crawls away sheepishly*

Also just realized that MonkeyMan explained why he left his vote on malp:

Mal never gave a responce.
So he is suspicious for the neauonce.
Also changing a vote requires more scrutiny
than merely placing a vote can be seen as one's duty.

I'm not quite sure what he's trying to say here, but I can interpret it in two ways:
1) He thought malp was suspicious for never responding to MM's original "case" on him in the confirmation stage.
2) He thought malp was suspicious for never responding to MM's random vote.
3) He thought malp was suspicious for lurking.

1) is incorrect, because malpascp immediately explained the joke in the confirmation stage. As for 2) and 3), well, here's the timing of malp's:

MM's post: 2:30 PM

malp's response:: 2:44 PM, fourteen minutes after MM's vote

MM's post FOSsing kpaca: 7:17 PM

So clearly malp didn't ignore the vote on him, and 2) is wrong. And if he's claiming that it was a pressure vote because malp was lurking...well, four and a half hours had elapsed between malp's last vote and MM's decision to FOS kpaca but not move his vote. So why did he leave it on malp, again?

Vote: MonkeyMan

FOS: DragonofSummer and Jazzmyn

. Any thoughts on...well,

anything

?

It's quite possible that I was wrong.
I have been known to make a mistake.
But my vote now is not on malp.
So your vote on me is a fake.

[MonkeyMan576]

I had several reasons for voting kpaca
as post 143 shows.
Why I have to explain this again
God only knows.

I suspected malp because his initial vote was in error,
inconsistant and not fair.
He accused me of voting the mod
when it was part of the rules, not attacking a god.

He then said he himself had voted the mod.
Another inconsistancy so his vote was a fraud.
After analysis Kpaca's sins were far worse.
Hence my changing my vote, not because of others curse.

[MonkeyMan576]

EBWOP: Post 183
not 143

[MonkeyMan576]

Fair enough. But two wrongs don't make a right, etc . Still, I can see where you're coming from.

I think your concern over MM's mal vote is reasonable. I thought he was just doing it because mal hadn't really come in and played the game yet, which I would have found reasonable, but that's not the reason he ultimately gave.

Are you saying my reason's not a good one?
Because voting someone for following the rules is not good fun.

[MonkeyMan576]

This is how it happened:

Mal votes Mod.
MM voes Mod.
Mal votes MM, saying LOL DUN VOTE THE MOD BRO.
MM FoS's Mal.

The game starts.

MM votes Mal for "nonrandom voting in an unreasoned fashion."
Mal OMGUS votes MM.

As I read it originally, all of that was a joke except for Mal's OMGUS vote, which read a tad scummy. (The bit where he called you out for voting the Mod was almost certainly a joke; he'd already done so.) Then I figured you were keeping your vote on Mal because you wanted to hear more out of him. But you were really voting him for the Mod-voting joke?

Not because it was a joke, but because it was inconsistant.
He didn't mention everyone else who had done it.
Picking and choosing your argument can be seen as scummy.
Especially later on when the results aren't so funny.

[MonkeyMan576]

Those first 4 posts I listed are the firsts 4 non-Mod posts in the game. There was no one else who had done it yet. Or did you mean something else?

I see it as a joke now,
I did not at the time.
If I could take back the vote I would
but it was hardly a crime.

It can be attributed to a misunderstanding
Now can we get to the task of scum lynching?

[MonkeyMan576]

so how sorry do you expect me to be?

Only as sorry as you sound, and you certainly didn't sound 'really' sorry.

Anyway, didn't the other players say that you're known as a chronic lurker?

No one with any real meta of me has called me a chronic lurker. The two that did have very, very limited meta knowledge of me.

Isn't this the pot calling the kettle black?

So no, its nothing like that.
So quick to that accusation though, nice.

So do you have any thoughts on my actual suspicions/arguments? Or are you just looking to pick a fight?

I'll leave that question to the philosophers.

I played with Sociopath in TTGL
And he did not lurk at all
Quite the opposite in fact
He was quite active and played with tact.

[MonkeyMan576]

kpaca posted?
At this point I would like to see him roasted.
His arguments are mired
by his posting patterns which leave much to be desired.

[MonkeyMan576]

Can you please repost your query?
It's been a long long while.
I admit I've grown quite weary
of complacency and still find Kpaca vile.

[MonkeyMan576]

Can you please repost your query?
It's been a long long while.
I admit I've grown quite weary
of complacency and still find Kpaca vile.

After disappearing from this thread for 11 days, while posting vigorously on other threads, you are hardly in a position to talk about the complacency of others, Monkey.

Regards,
Jazz

I prefer games where action is constant
This game has been dragging slower than a snail.
I don't like to be forcing conversation
So if no one else is talking I tend to say fail.

My opinion hasn't changed
Kpaca is still scummy
Day 1 scum hunting
is like kissing your mummy.

I find most of the talk so far frivolous
Day 1 is usually this way
I'm sure when the action heats up
I'll have much more to say.
:shrug:

[MonkeyMan576]

Can you please repost your query?
It's been a long long while.
I admit I've grown quite weary
of complacency and still find Kpaca vile.

After disappearing from this thread for 11 days, while posting vigorously on other threads, you are hardly in a position to talk about the complacency of others, Monkey.

Regards,
Jazz

I prefer games where action is constant
This game has been dragging slower than a snail.
I don't like to be forcing conversation
So if no one else is talking I tend to say fail.

My opinion hasn't changed
Kpaca is still scummy
Day 1 scum hunting
is like kissing your mummy.

I find most of the talk so far frivolous
Day 1 is usually this way
I'm sure when the action heats up
I'll have much more to say.
:shrug:

[MonkeyMan576]

My read is the same
Kpoaca should not be in the game.

[MonkeyMan576]

Sanhora's reaction does not prove he was town
Scum try to act townish even after the enevitable goes down
The evidence on Kpaca is to hard to ignore
But the near hammer by Albert gives us more info to store

I believe that one is town and one is scum in the end
To think that both are on the same team is too difficult to mend.
So if Sanhora flips town, we have scum for next day
So lets all get in a conga line and start shouting HOORAY!

[MonkeyMan576]

MonkeyMan576: Monkeyman has given very little thought on anything, and just keeps rhyming with no real content to add to the game. Unlike GK who has been pursuing people and actively scum hunting in spite of his PR Monkey has not. Scummy.

unvote vote MonkeyMan576

I've added content, the game has been slow
voting for me is not the way to go.
It seems you are wagoning me because we disagree
Not a good reason to vote, look for scum, not me.

[MonkeyMan576]

This also gets already posted so that others can see why MM is a good vote:

MonkeyMan576
In post 53 you voted Malp for something he did in the RVS. Back then, you first FoSed him after which he stated that he had voted the mod as well. So explain how you saw Malp’s vote as a serious vote.

Not liking post 115 at all. It so dodges Kpaca’s accusation. But this post gets worse when combined posts 119 and 171. In 119 you state your reason for not switching away from Malp. Yet, before post 171, Malp does get back. You don’t mention him at all in post 171 (Why not?) and switch to Kpaca. (For those interested, post 171 is MM’s first post after 119). So why the switch?

Please state your reasons for voting Kpaca in post 171 (In detail).

Wow, post 189 is just terrible. You did something scummy, get voted for it and because it doesn’t apply anymore you’re essentially saying it should be forgotten? Sure .

Hooray for Mina pointing out that you’ve ignored part of Mina’s analysis in post 224.


Also, MM, please claim your rolename if your PR is real. If you won't do so, please state why you won't do it.

I'm not going to claim at all
It's way to early to call.
If you don't believe my PR that's fine
But it doesn't change the fact that it's mine.

You are using Kpaca's (non)argument against me
But at the same time want a clean slate.
Having it both ways is scummy, I say
And lynching, I fear should be your fate.

Kpaca said I lynched for no reason
But I gave several reasons for my vote
He said I was trying to give pressure for no reason
But this argument was very poor I hope.

You are obviously concerned about living through the day
and are exaggerating any case against me through and through
The case against Kpaca is more than enough for a lynch
And your asking me to nameclaim is scummy too

[MonkeyMan576]

EBWOP: Voted for no reason.
(Wife's beef stew I'm cravin')

[MonkeyMan576]

I'm too tired to respond to SP and Jazz's responses to me, so just a few rushed thoughts and questions:

@Ellibereth: *headdesk* You'd better have a fantastic explanation for that vote later.

@Jazzmyn: To be honest, I was expecting RF to replace out soon after ABR did, simply because ABR's presence was clearly all that appealed to RF in this game. I think it's a null tell. Actually, I think RF/ABR is a very unlikely partnership. Killers almost never kiss up to their scumbuddies and sheep their cases like that.

@DragonsofSummer: That's...um, a rather unexpected flip on me. I understood the initial doubt, but you still stubbornly claimed your case on me was the best one out there when I had already been posting "forcefully" and not backing away from cases. How did my playstyle change since then?

@MordyS: okay, you don't have ANY thoughts about ABR's quickammer/Sanhora's towntell/MonkeyMan's vote? Even though kpaca was supposedly your top suspect? Your grace period for getting over Mini 873 ended a week ago.

FOS: MordyS

Start contributing, and stop making safe points on the set-up and attacks on easy targets.

@MonkeyMan576: Agree with all the people who found MonkeyMan's post setting up Sanhora-ABR lynches horrendously scummy. Oh, and MM? If you don't answer those questions I've asked you about five million times, I'll jump on your wagon in 3...2...1...

In fact, I have yet another question for you:

Do you have any role-related reason to want kpaca/Sanhora dead? And do you believe the reverse may be true?

If you link to your question, I shall endevour to answer
I am not avoiding them see
I have never been afraid of answering anything
I have nothing to hide I am free.

I do not want Sanhora/Kpapa dead for any reason other than his scummy demeanor
As for Sanhora I must say
That his only reason for going after me
is trying to live through the day.

[MonkeyMan576]

Mina and Sanhora as scum pair
is more likely than me and Mordy being there.
Mina was way to quick to switch on ABR
He admits he finds pretty much every player scummy there.

I don't like Sanhora's rush to claim
It's a presumption of guilt that is not true
If he claimed first I might be more willing
But I doubt that this is something that he would do.

ABR's discussion has been dim
Mina has been everywhere
as if everyone is scummy but him
Since Mina and Sonhara could be a scum pair
I'm not inclined to name claim here.
That and I only have a couple votes.
Asking me to claim is a joke.

Sanhora's play here is indicative of scum
Let's get the lynch going and drink some rum.

[MonkeyMan576]

Okay. Homework. I understand if you don't want to rhyme your explanations, but at the very least, provide quotes showing:

-where kpaca has gone after an easy target.
-where kpaca has avoided rustling feathers (if anything, he's coming across as quite abrasive so far)

Also:
-why you think kpaca asking about other players' game histories is scummy?

Your post isn't substantiating any of your arguments. It sounds like you're just writing a laundry list of suspicious behaviour and pinning them on a popular group target.

------------

Oh, well in that case you can bet that I won't let early game lurking slide either.

I won't lynch someone solely for lurking, but I won't allow lurkers to slip by either.

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Kpaca is a hypocrite
he does a 180 here
He says he is against lurking
and then goes for a beer.

Then after the replacement
his replacement asks me to claim
when my votes are not numerous
to require me to reveal my name.

[MonkeyMan576]

I think Mina has a case of "If I'm pushy I'm not scum"
and she thinks the argument doesn't matter
If it came to lynching Mordy or Mina
I'd take the latter.

[MonkeyMan576]

MonkeyMan has fallen off the face of the thread since Jan 9 now, which is strange since he was active until then, and yet he's posted something like 80 posts elsewhere since last gracing us with his presence here in this thread.

Gotta love players who do their homework. And this is also the reason why I hate that the search function is down.


MonkeyMan, your opinion on post 333 please.

One or two people asking for a claim
is not good enough
And continiously asking for it
Is rolefishing, scummy and rough.

[MonkeyMan576]

SP, you've been voting ABR since his panic attack. What do you think of MM?

His active lurking inattentiveness is scummy as hell.

I'm not active lurking at all
so quit putting me up for the fall.

[MonkeyMan576]

EBWOP: My last post should more correctly read:

How is that

responsive

(by way of opinion) to post 333, which is what Sanhora asked you for?

Regards,
Jazz

Post restrictions is the common thread,
He is saying a PR should make one dead.

[MonkeyMan576]

That's a misrepresentation of the PR angle of the case against you, and it ignores the aspects of the case against you that have nothing to do with your apparent PR.

I was just answering a single query
Not answering the whole scope of the case against me.
The case against me, still is pretty small
compared to kpaca/Sanhora which is fairly tall.

[MonkeyMan576]

Post restrictions is the common thread,
He is saying a PR should make one dead.

No, that's not what post 333 said at all.

Try again.

Regards,
Jazz

You may think this is a game
Well, it is...but it's not the same.
ABR was basically questioning PR's
There's a lot more to go on, by far.

[MonkeyMan576]

Post 333 (why are we focused specifically on 333? but whatever) has ABR saying that inconsistency in claimed PRs is lynch-worthy. At the time, I disagreed with him because I thought it might be reasonable to fake a PR for town reasons. However, MM's failure to help out during OTOK strongly implies that he is non-town if his ability is fake. It also more weakly implies that he is non-town even if his ability is real, since you'd think he would be willing to give us that information given GK's apparent deviation from his PR.

PR-less, high-profile scummy behavior by MM includes trying to set up a 1/1 on Sanhora/ABR, lurking through the mid part of the game even though players were addressing him (namely Mina IIRC) and he was posting elsewhere, and his evasive/minimizing responses to all of these concerns.

I wasn't "trying to set up" anything"
It's my position that one or the other is scum
Quit misinterpreting my positions
and trying to make me sound dumb.

[MonkeyMan576]

Oh? You mean like how ABR's style this game has been essentially: VLA, LURK LURK LURK, FLUFF LURK FLUFF, LURK LURK QUICKLYNCH REPLACE.

The only person he legitamately made an attempt to attack was Mordy.

I'll just repeat what I said before to MM about ABR:

Based on the cold, hard facts--not contributing, dodging questions, quickhammering before a claim, replacing out--he looks pretty bad. But my gut says his behaviour doesn't quite fit as scum. Like I said to Mordy, he doesn't seem to worry about how he's perceived. He's very in-your-face about his unhelpfulness. Given that disinterest in our opinion, I don't think he'd have replaced out so as not to get heat for his quickhammer.

Question him all you want guys, actually question him as much as you can, but trust me that today is not the day to lynch Monkey.
Again, I'll be willing to get behind any wagon that is not San or Monkey. This day needs to end already.

Look, you can't blame us for not trusting you blindly on this. Make a strong case on someone who isn't MonkeyMan if you want to persuade us not to lynch him. Because "trust me, MM is not the lynch for today, now let's just lynch...gee, anyone else, I don't really care who" aren't reasons that inspire confidence.

Also, seconding Iecerint's questions.

Kpaca/Sanhara has a strong case,
I don't see the reluctance to use the mace.

[MonkeyMan576]

^You do realize that Sanhora is the

other

person Ellibereth refused to vote for, right?

Speaking of which, you know those questions I asked five zillion times? I'll copy and paste them. Again.

Okay. Homework. I understand if you don't want to rhyme your explanations, but at the very least, provide quotes showing:

-where kpaca has gone after an easy target.
-where kpaca has avoided rustling feathers (if anything, he's coming across as quite abrasive so far)

Also:
-why you think kpaca asking about other players' game histories is scummy?

Your post isn't substantiating any of your arguments. It sounds like you're just writing a laundry list of suspicious behaviour and pinning them on a popular group target.

MonkeyMan576, when I asked you this--

Anyway, if you made a mistake, then could you explain why you suspected malp? Was it 1), 2), or 3)? Did I misinterpret anything you said?

--you responded by giving a list of reasons for why you suspected malp in the first place:

I suspected malp because his initial vote was in error,
inconsistant and not fair.
He accused me of voting the mod
when it was part of the rules, not attacking a god.

He then said he himself had voted the mod.
Another inconsistancy so his vote was a fraud.
After analysis Kpaca's sins were far worse.
Hence my changing my vote, not because of others curse.

But I didn't express myself clearly. When people asked you why you were more suspicious of malpascp than of kpaca, you said it was because of this:

Mal never gave a responce.
So he is suspicious for the neauonce.
Also changing a vote requires more scrutiny
than merely placing a vote can be seen as one's duty.

I wasn't sure what you meant by that, but I proved that it was wrong no matter how I interpreted it here. So you acknowledged it was a mistake.

But even if it was a mistake, what did you originally mean by that "response" comment?

You never answered the second quote. You answered the first by saying, "Well,

after

I made this post, kpaca started lurking and Sanhora asked me to claim." No. That all happened after you jumped on his wagon. Say WHY you thought kpaca had gone after an easy target at the time, where he's avoided ruffling feathers, and why you think asking about people's game histories is scummy, dammit!

And why are you dodging Sanhora's and Iecerint's questions, too? In post 333, you were asked to confirm whether GK was allowed to make OT comments out of rhyme. That's not a roleclaim. WHY THE HELL ARE YOU AVOIDING THE QUESTION AND BABBLING ABOUT NOT CLAIMING?

This is ridiculous. It's like you can't read.

I think Mina has a case of "If I'm pushy I'm not scum"
and she thinks the argument doesn't matter

But you never mentioned anything about the quality of my arguments. You said I was scummy because I attacked a lot of people. I responded to that by explaining my playstyle. If you have problems with my arguments themselves (and not just my playstyle), feel free to point them out. But if your only reason for suspecting me is that I'm pushy...well, that's a terrible reason for suspecting someone, because aggression is not a scumtell.

That's not my only reason
I also suspect you for defending Sanhora.
However you're not my top suspect of the season
So, I ask you, "Where's the

Amore

?"

[MonkeyMan576]

^You do realize that Sanhora is the

other

person Ellibereth refused to vote for, right?

Speaking of which, you know those questions I asked five zillion times? I'll copy and paste them. Again.

Okay. Homework. I understand if you don't want to rhyme your explanations, but at the very least, provide quotes showing:

-where kpaca has gone after an easy target.
-where kpaca has avoided rustling feathers (if anything, he's coming across as quite abrasive so far)

Also:
-why you think kpaca asking about other players' game histories is scummy?

Your post isn't substantiating any of your arguments. It sounds like you're just writing a laundry list of suspicious behaviour and pinning them on a popular group target.

MonkeyMan576, when I asked you this--

Anyway, if you made a mistake, then could you explain why you suspected malp? Was it 1), 2), or 3)? Did I misinterpret anything you said?

--you responded by giving a list of reasons for why you suspected malp in the first place:

I suspected malp because his initial vote was in error,
inconsistant and not fair.
He accused me of voting the mod
when it was part of the rules, not attacking a god.

He then said he himself had voted the mod.
Another inconsistancy so his vote was a fraud.
After analysis Kpaca's sins were far worse.
Hence my changing my vote, not because of others curse.

But I didn't express myself clearly. When people asked you why you were more suspicious of malpascp than of kpaca, you said it was because of this:

Mal never gave a responce.
So he is suspicious for the neauonce.
Also changing a vote requires more scrutiny
than merely placing a vote can be seen as one's duty.

I wasn't sure what you meant by that, but I proved that it was wrong no matter how I interpreted it here. So you acknowledged it was a mistake.

But even if it was a mistake, what did you originally mean by that "response" comment?

You never answered the second quote. You answered the first by saying, "Well,

after

I made this post, kpaca started lurking and Sanhora asked me to claim." No. That all happened after you jumped on his wagon. Say WHY you thought kpaca had gone after an easy target at the time, where he's avoided ruffling feathers, and why you think asking about people's game histories is scummy, dammit!

And why are you dodging Sanhora's and Iecerint's questions, too? In post 333, you were asked to confirm whether GK was allowed to make OT comments out of rhyme. That's not a roleclaim. WHY THE HELL ARE YOU AVOIDING THE QUESTION AND BABBLING ABOUT NOT CLAIMING?

This is ridiculous. It's like you can't read.

I think Mina has a case of "If I'm pushy I'm not scum"
and she thinks the argument doesn't matter

But you never mentioned anything about the quality of my arguments. You said I was scummy because I attacked a lot of people. I responded to that by explaining my playstyle. If you have problems with my arguments themselves (and not just my playstyle), feel free to point them out. But if your only reason for suspecting me is that I'm pushy...well, that's a terrible reason for suspecting someone, because aggression is not a scumtell.

To answer part two of your roast
How am I supposed to know how GK is allowed to post?
As for being pushy
It's not a towntell, and you thinking it is is fishy.

[MonkeyMan576]

I almost want to let you off the hook for rhyming "Sanhora" with "Amore," but still...

To answer part two of your roast
How am I supposed to know how GK is allowed to post?

You should know how

you

are allowed to post. You and GK are supposed to have the same posting restriction.

Now please answer the questions I quoted in my last post.

Also, time for me to cast my magic DoS summoning spell:

FOS: DragonsofSummer.

Could you answer my question to you?

Who said we have the same PR?
Suggesting it's that way, scummy you are.
I don't have that kind of info.
If you do, you'd better say so.

[MonkeyMan576]

I think you're scum. Obviously, I'm going to demonstrate why I think your actions are indicative of scum. Claiming a 1/1 on Sanhora/ABR when there isn't one is scummy because it potentially sets up town for a double mislynch.

Or it sets us up to nail scum

You seem rather certain Kpaca is town
Would you mind giving us reasons how this goes down
a 1/1 is only bad if one isn't scum
And I'm pretty sure where theyre from.

And besides I never specifically said there should be a 1/1
If the town doesn't agree, what's done is done.

[MonkeyMan576]

I suppose I would vote for ABR as an alternative to Sanhora as a compromise to make sure there isn't a no lynch.

[MonkeyMan576]

BTW, my role pm verifies another name
Should I reveal it or stay the same?
I figure it might be useful in a mass claim
Should someone try to fake in vain.

[MonkeyMan576]

It depends on what you mean. Here are some possible interpretations of what you said:

If it says "Snow White is in the game," you should not supply it.
If it says "Ell is Snow White," you should not supply it.
If it says "Snow White is town," you should possibly supply it.
If it says "Ell is town," you should possibly supply it.
If it says "Ell is townSW," you should possibly supply it.

Do not claim on the basis of these opinions alone. I didn't think too terribly hard about them.

The answer is the first, I say
So I shall keep it to myself that way.

[MonkeyMan576]

Unvote:
Vote: danakillsu

[MonkeyMan576]

I suppose I would vote for ABR as an alternative to Sanhora as a compromise to make sure there isn't a no lynch.

I don't see any rhyming in this post.

Also GK hasn't posted for 8 days now.

@Mod: can you prod him please?

Regards,
Jazz

Sorry, was a mistake
Doesn't make my ristriction a fake.

[MonkeyMan576]

If you failed your restriction, how come you're not dead? It's a post-restriction with no consequences?

I got a warning to date.
For one mistake, death is not my fate.

[MonkeyMan576]

How many times must you screw up and what is your fate if you go over the line?

I was told if I mess up one more time
I will lose my voting powers for a day as a crime.
After that who is to tell
It's up to the mod, and at that time tell me he will.

[MonkeyMan576]

vote:DGB

I think ABR asked for replacement because he was scum who was afraid of losing.
@all
Time for a claim. I'm a town-aligned role who starts as a VT, but can become more. Don't ask me what "more" is, I don't know. I'm asking the town not to make a big mistake by lynching me because of my defeatist attitude. I want to be involved in this game, which means I don't like it when I immediately get a bunch of votes.

I believe Dan, as I have a similar role.
Now to find the next scummiest down low.

Unvote: Dan
Vote: DGB

Let's do a wagon
and get him on the noggin!

[MonkeyMan576]

I believe Dan, as I have a similar role.
Now to find the next scummiest down low.

Not even close to rhyming. And I'm dana, not dan. Although thanks for calling me a male name.

If you look at te phonics, the rhyming is close
A lot more difficult than talking in prose.

[MonkeyMan576]

My sister needs the computer now, so I'll save the other stuff I wanted to talk about for another day. Just a couple of things on MonkeyMan576:

I believe Dan, as I have a similar role.
Now to find the next scummiest down low.

This post is really scummy. You're trying to confirm yourself by acting like you have extra information from your PM, even though

the opening post

says some people are VTs who become something more. Also, way to go for the unprompted roleclaim that didn't even help confirm Dan's claim at all because of. Again, it reads like you're trying to make yourself look innocent.

How many times must you screw up and what is your fate if you go over the line?

I was told if I mess up one more time
I will lose my voting powers for a day as a crime.
After that who is to tell
It's up to the mod, and at that time tell me he will.

Gerhaud Krause, can you confirm that this is true? You messed up on the OT thing.

Also, MonkeyMan, you stated you're a VT with the potential to become something more. But GK implied that following his PR gave him some kind of bonus. Clearly not the same role.

Thoughts on Jazzmyn, Mordy, dana, and DGB tomorrow.

I never said I was the same as GK
So I don't know why youre posting me that way.

[MonkeyMan576]

No, I do not want to name claim.
Only as a last resort, cause it is lame.

[MonkeyMan576]

I already said I can help prove a role
Lynching me would put town in a bad hole.
But if you really want me to claim
I will if it will bring me good fame.

[MonkeyMan576]

I'm very suspicious of the pile up votes
A couple votes in a short period of time
I'm sure one or two of those people are scum
and would turn on a townie on the split of a dime.

[MonkeyMan576]

I am

Hakim, Vanilla Townie

but I can be more
if Beast finds me then more powers are in store
So please don't lynch unless you want scum to win
But if I am hammered you know the villain