Mini 810: Infection! Mini - Game over!

[tubby216]

hiya folks alot of familar faces in this one,

please give me some time to read up toda will post thoughts soonest,

in the mean time anthing i should look for or answer for??

[tubby216]

ok this is what i have so far

pages 1 and 2 - confirming and rvs ,, but there is some nice talk about why claiming is bad

page three begins the talk of getting everone to post/talk

page 4 alot of odd posting and some odd posting by BM

page 5 Bm starts acting like BM

page6 BM makes a case kinda I think

page 7 more ramblings

page 8 lurkers get called out charter starts to pla and akes a case for kelly's lynch

page 9 more talk about bm and his meta, tajo makes reference to more fa votes

page 10 kise pretty much makes a case for FA lynch

page 11 kise rises in scummy points for me

page 12 what is with all this bs that lists only help scum??!!?? really ?

page 13/14 i would hjave lynched KKn by now

page 15 fa is lynched due to deadline pressure and found to be infected

^^This is good posting but it doesnt take into account a big part of the game.

Scientists.

Thats why I think its possible to call someone so strongly against fallen angel, like me, very likely town.

If we assume 1 infected left, Malthusisscum wouldnt target someone so likely to be protected, causing his infection to fail and therefore losing the game.

Also, I think its possible to have a list of people Malthusis wouldnt have infected, but I need to reread.

really do not like this post it sounds like you are trying to break your arm patting yourself on the back.

[tubby216]

its up to you guys this guy has dugg me quite the whole to get out of ,,lol

i am just trying the best i can for as long as i can

[tubby216]

tubby, who do you think is most likely to be original scum and why? Who do you think was infected last night and why? I don't like how I have to ask these questions.

What do you think of BM?

Why would you have been lynching KKN?

Charter i understand you don't like to ask these questions but i haven't finished my read yet i am upto page 20 atm so in a lil bit i will be able to answer these questions properly. Please bear with me i am tryig to be of some use this game,lol

[tubby216]

now i am a gut player and i just finished my complete read of the thread so here is intital over all thoughts proir to doing iso read wich i will complete either tonite or tomorrow.

original scum= rv and/or shotty they seem the most dodgey to me

kise could be scum too

likely infected = kelly, veerus

most town tajo and charter, i have played enough with both of you to see your town meta's in overdrive

thoughts on BM i believe his claim he may have been the guard but i believe he could be infected now, because the guard and other people lose their abilities when infectewd but then agian BM could have been busy and forgot to shoot but its doubtful.

why to lynch KKN- he was all over the place day one then all of a sudden dropped of the map and trying to get anything out for that guy is like talkin to a brick wall.

people i need to read in iso

KV,SHotty, BM kise

[tubby216]

kise could be scum too

Based on yesterday?

yah kinda

[tubby216]

still workin on my iso reads more soon

[tubby216]

ok my iso reads suck, reading shotty next.

thoughts on BM, meh he is crazy i would pull some shite like this after a few pints thinkin it was a good idea so i ssay harmless

[tubby216]

seriously you are gonna go with the "lynch all liars " policy on BM??

Open up your mind and let some thought inside.

[tubby216]

vote veerus

i believe him to be original infected.

[tubby216]

i think matusis infected someone last nite and thats why he is dead. atleast if i understand the posted infected pm on page 1. Cause when they choos to infect and it is succseefuk they die of infection, and the newly infected player thakes their place. can someone re-read that for me to make i read that right?

[tubby216]

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seriously you are gonna go with the "lynch all liars " policy on BM?? Rolling Eyes

Open up your mind and let some thought inside.

Ummm, read the damn thread. BM is horridly scummy. The only thing that saved him from a lynch at the beginning of the day is his guard claim.

vote veerus i believe him to be original infected.

Seriously? You had better post a whole lot more than this to justify your veerus vote.

I am so torn between Shotty and BM here.

well i would just say that i think bm is town, granted not the most town ever in the game but pretty damn town.

as for veerus. I do not like his day one actions, the whole no lynch thing, and other off comments make me think scum, also the half hearted deadline vote for FA kinda sealed it for me, and today has no original thought and maintianing a low profile smell scummy to me

[tubby216]

We've been over why veerus isn't scum like three times now.

WHY OH WHY do you think BM is town? This had better be a really good explaination.

point 1 veerus, don't care still scumm to me


point 2 bm, because he is, anything more than that and i would have to get you water wings,a life vest, and scuba tanks so you could follow me into the deep end of the WIFOM pool.

[tubby216]

In all fairness, KKN also did a deadline vote, AFTER veerus.

i also would have had KKN strung up by now,,, oh wait i already said that

[tubby216]

on bm fake claiming, do any of you remeber Mafia 82 ? he fake claimed there too and he was the pro town poisoner. It also doesn't help me out cause i was a mafia traitor in that game but i was atleast right town wise to defend him

[tubby216]

If BM really fakeclaimed for us to find scum by leaving him out, he'd have shut up and taken a guard kill on him for the team. That claim was the only thing that made me unvote BM in the first place. Since then, BM lurked again and did nothing to find scum.

I was going to re-read, but now I won't need to just yet as this is ridiculous.

And again, veerus galdly takes the opportunity to not explain himself.

Either one of them is original scum. Unfortunately, I don't see a majority on veerus, so:

unvote vote: Battle Mage

boo for you what way to be opertunistic! and while i am at it boo to everyone who is voting BM because they cannot make their case on the person they truly feel is scummy.

[tubby216]

Work. Busy. Shit. V/LA. Tomorrow night.

^ this saddens me a bit

[tubby216]

and it sucked

[tubby216]

So are you going to answer my post tubby?

oh i thought that was a rehtorical question.

probably not

[tubby216]

And you think BM once fakeclaiming as town in the olden days makes him town here does not?

what i am tryin to say is that he has done it before, does it excuse him, no not really but it should give you and everybody else pause to think it over

[tubby216]

Despite our BM lynching, Shotty is probably even more likely to be scum, and I would still lynch him.

would you rather lynch scotty? as in yur willing to make a deal?

[tubby216]

You are an

infected

. You can communicate with all other infected at any time here. Each night, one of you may target another player.

You die and the player you target becomes infected.

If you target a player who has been vaccinated, you still die but your target isn't infected. If you are vaccinated, you neither die nor infect your target. You win when everyone is dead or infected, or nothing can prevent the same.

so either malthusis infected someone and we still have 2 scum, or it failed and we have 1 scum left since the target was vaccinated.

all of your talk about suicide is bs shotty and makes me think you are mis leading us

[tubby216]

What crack pipe are you smoking tubby? Quit sucking up to BM and let some thought in for fuck's sake. Your defense of him is so pathetic.

How is my talk about suicide BS? Malthusis had to SUICIDE TO INFECT, HAVE YOU READ ANYTHING ABOUT THIS GAME? WE'VE BEEN CALLING IT SUICIDING THE WHOLE TIME!!!!!!!!!

Also what the fuck do you mean by "cut a deal." The fuck is that shit? You haven't answered anything I've asked you and have been incredibly unhelpful.

Hush grown folks is talkin

[tubby216]

What crack pipe are you smoking tubby? Quit sucking up to BM and let some thought in for fuck's sake. Your defense of him is so pathetic.

How is my talk about suicide BS? Malthusis had to SUICIDE TO INFECT, HAVE YOU READ ANYTHING ABOUT THIS GAME? WE'VE BEEN CALLING IT SUICIDING THE WHOLE TIME!!!!!!!!!

Also what the fuck do you mean by "cut a deal." The fuck is that shit? You haven't answered anything I've asked you and have been incredibly unhelpful.

Keep it civil, please.

You should be modkilled. And seriously, quit raggin on Tubby. If he's scum, he's obviously gonna defend me. And if he's town, he's doing a hella lot better than most people. If it turns out Tubby is town, and he's managed to get a great read on me here, and by some miracle, you manage to pull off a victory, i'll be nominating him for a Protown performance scummy.

BM

its all good shotty is passionate about this game and its all good. I get under alot of peoples skin. plus its the internet you really cannot get mad at what some says on the internet. Now back to the game.

[tubby216]

If there's a real guard, with BM standing by his guard claim, BM would almost surely be scum.

It still makes some sense, just not much more than killing anybody else who seems like scum.

On the one hand I don't see why BMscum admits he was lying; on the other hand I definitely see why BMscum considers claiming guard well in advance of a claim being needed.

I don't know enough about BM as town though.

wich is why you guys should trust in the fat kid and unvote Bm and lets look elswhere,,, like veerus.

[tubby216]

Ok, we need to just come to a consensus and end the day. This is dragging on unnecessarily, we've been going over a month on day two alone now.

There isn't going to be a veerus lynch, accept it. The case on him is poor.
There isn't going to be a tajo lynch, he's obvtown.
There isn't going to be a charter or Kelly or RV or Kise lynch because we weren't original scum.
There isn't enough support for KKN from what I gather.

That means, we need to lynch BM, Shotty, or ani. This is not a false trichotomy, it is the reality of this situation.

Honestly, I'm leaning back towards Shotty now. I am hoping that the BM situation can just resolve itself tonight (aka guard kill BM).

If we're going to lynch BM, I think we can do it a later day, I doubt he would get infected tonight, plus he might even lurk through night.

unvote, vote Shotty

Please, please, PLEASE can we start to wrap up the day?

whats with the rush? we are not underdealine here,, this is so unlike town charter.

whats the case on shotty agian ( just point me to a post number that would be nice)

[tubby216]

Fine, lynch BM then and be glad of his riddance. If tajo, tubby, BM, Kise, and Shotty aren't going to vote Shotty, then we can't lynch him.

unvote, vote BM

boo bad play charter you are playin like crap.

baiting people into deals? rushing to end the day??

hmm are you feelin ok?? u look a lil green perhaps you are coming down with something

[tubby216]

tubby, I have no idea what you're talking about. Why would I continue to waste my breath trying to get someone lynched who isn't going to be able to get lynched. BM is scummy as well, and no, playing like an idiot doesn't mean he's town.

to me it looks like you are hopping on a popular wagon and trying really hard to get us into nite phase, you are about one maybe two posts away from earning my perminate vote here.

you actins over the last few pages wreak of frustrated scum more than town play.

[tubby216]

yah i did that and doin the easy thing is not always the most town thing to do. Sometimes just sometimes charter being town is hard as hell.

[tubby216]

Kelly or tajo, put me out of my misery.

some cheese perhaps?? may I offer a nice cheddar its not too sharp and will go really well i think with your choice of whine there.

[tubby216]

^dumb

[tubby216]

thats fine

explination thats what i felt at the time now however i do not feel the same.

[tubby216]

because i remembered his fakeclaim in mafia 82, re-read his play in that game to make sure compared it to his play in this and found similularities.

[tubby216]

answers in bold

can you explain the similarities?

well kinda its more gut and nueances about how he says things not nessasarily what he says

why did you think he was prob infected?

dramatice change in behavior then i realized he prolly just had more free time

make sense

and BM if i am wrong and this is your way for getting back at me for making you lose that newbie we were in grr to you

[tubby216]

awesome its been fun but since i am most likely dead tonite i'll claim

i am a technician,

[tubby216]

ok then but i would like to hear from shotty agian as well

[tubby216]

nuff said

vote:shotty

[tubby216]

well, i'd be ok with a KC or tubby lynch today... i think its pretty obvious that either charter or tajo got infected last night.. personally my money would be on charter (he's been more active and his reads have been spot on). if we lynch kc or tubby, it'll give us more time to determine who got infected between tajo/charter.

I shouldn't argue for my own lynch, but someone else will point this out, but why would you lynch someone besides who you think got infected? I think it's unlikely any original scums are left since ani died. And you can't let someone you think is infected alive until night.

qft

vote veerus

agian

[tubby216]

My prime suspect for today is tubby, though. Tubby, why did you vote for Shotty?

seemed like the right thing to do at the time i wasn't expecting a speed lynch, by time i got back to the thread shotty was dead

[tubby216]

My prime suspect for today is tubby, though. Tubby, why did you vote for Shotty?

seemed like the right thing to do at the time i wasn't expecting a speed lynch, by time i got back to the thread shotty was dead

Yes, but why exactly?

cause at the time i was second guessing my reads and decided to go along with charter

[tubby216]

i think veerus is an obv choice,

since tajo and charter appeared to be the most pro-town targets, veerus was all but confirm town by all but me, to me it makes sense to infect him and then sit back and watch as charter and tajo tear each other apart today. then wich ever isnt lynched today makes for an easy target tomorrow,

thats my reason for voting veerus today

[tubby216]

i think veerus is an obv choice,

since tajo and charter appeared to be the most pro-town targets, veerus was all but confirm town by all but me, to me it makes sense to infect him and then sit back and watch as charter and tajo tear each other apart today. then wich ever isnt lynched today makes for an easy target tomorrow,

thats my reason for voting veerus today

tubby this isnt about what makes sense to you.

I sincerely doubt veerus would be infected. He is a potential lynch for some people.

yah for me but everyone is talkin about either you or charter.

however i would join you in lynching KC if veerus is not an option for today

[tubby216]

So, nobody seems to find this odd?

awesome its been fun but since i am most likely dead tonite i'll claim

i am a technician,

I sincerely doubt veerus would be infected. He is a potential lynch for some people.

Really? For who? Besides me, everybody says veerus is obv town. Every day. How would veerus be a bad target?

Veerus is a bad target because even some think he is prob town (like me), he has been suspected by some people in some stages of the game. Also, I dont remember having the impression of everybody but you thinking he as prob town, but I might be wrong.

About the claim, yeah, I also asked him why did he claim when I was the only one pressuring him.

because i thought i would have been shot by the guard

[tubby216]

wel since i think its veerus and kelly i will help out,

unvote, vote kelly

[tubby216]

@ MOD I will be V/LA untill Friday the 11th

[tubby216]

wel since i think its veerus and kelly i will help out,

unvote, vote kelly

^ FINALLY I WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and in an Xyl game at that lol