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Got 3 games that need updating…this one is the smallest so I will start here.
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dude, you are acting like a baby. you have played enough to know that wagons on day 1 is common place (so your tantrum is noted). you werent going to be lynched and if for some god forsaken you were quick lynched, a ton of information would have been gleaned from it. Grow the fuck up.ZONEACE wrote:
Im halfway to a lynch FOR NO FUCKING REASON. that's a little more than nothing.
how is quick lynching somemore for being a spaz anything but scummy? dont act like it wasnt. I understand it was in jest (I think), so all I said was noted. You feel your comment wasnt scummy? Please explain, if you wish to push the issue.VP Baltar wrote:
What is scummy about it?CKD wrote:scummy comment and noted.
I disagree (somewhat)...they can be good for fact checking though.xRECKONERx wrote:Metas are worthless imo.
QFTChannelDelibird wrote:I find them helpfulto an extent. I have no desire to get into a massive theoretical discussion, though.
I agree,ChannelDelibird wrote:xRECKONERx wrote:Jason is definitely setting in my crosshairs...
Unvote, Vote: JasonVote: Reckoner
unvote, vote Reckoner...
dont like your bandwagon vote without a point, thoughts, or a case.
maybe they just got you in their crosshairs.xRECKONERx wrote:Unwarranted bandwagon powers... ACTIVATE!
Form of... VP Baltar and CDB!
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then why are you not voting me?VP Baltar wrote:
No, my comment was not scummy. I was very clearly not serious, which you recognize (you think). In all of the games you have ever played in or read, how many players have been actually lynched over a reason like 'you're a spaz'? I'm going to use my amazing psychic abilities and say zero. My lack of voting for him should have also shown that I was not serious.curiouskarmadog wrote:how is quick lynching somemore for being a spaz anything but scummy? dont act like it wasnt. I understand it was in jest (I think), so all I said was noted. You feel your comment wasnt scummy? Please explain, if you wish to push the issue.
Now, judging by your reaction of wanting to sling mud over such a trivial and clearly not serious comment, I can come to one of two conclusions: 1) you were dropped on your head a lot as a child 2) you are scum
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Locke Lamora wrote:I missed my own wagon! Sorry for the brief absence, everyone.
Looks like everything was pretty jokey in the people who jumped on my wagon, I don't see how anyone could have taken it seriously when all I'd done is confirm. I think ZONEACE is scummier for flat-out ignoring what has happened so far, though. We're not far in, I agree, but saying that nothing has happened when serious votes have already started to be placed indicates a desire to perpetuate the RVS.
Vote: ZONEACELocke Lamora wrote:Well, Zoneace's reaction is completely unwarranted and obviously he has a problem with a lot of people on this site, but I think we definitely got something out of it. I agree with Juls' view of Jason, his post 83 is completely unoriginal and there's one comment that screams scum to me:
That's exactly the kind of thing I've seen from nervous scum before, feeling the need to make your vote look as acceptable as possible when you put it on. I don't understand why you would vote for someone if you're not comfortable with doing it, so why bother saying it?jasonT1981 wrote:So yea right now I feel comfortable doing this
unvote; Vote Jason
I second EmpTyger's question to Reckoner. I don't see how you can accuse Jebus of being serious with the bandwagon on me on one hand and then take Zoneace's side when he claims that nothing has happened so far. If Reckoner really believed that Jebus was scummy, surely Zoneace ignoring it should be suspicious too?
every vote is on the current bandwagon (only when it is hot) spouting out what other's have said. every vote leaves himself open to jump back to the previous has needed. His net gets wider and wider....Locke Lamora wrote:I'm still dubious about Jason moving his vote only after I prompted him but Reckoner is not doing himself any favours. 183 seems implausible to me; surely he would have read back and looked at what was said when people jumped on him for the role post? Not only that, but if he didn't really buy into it, why is he trying to excuse himself now? There's not much to say about 189, it's another worthless post.
Unvote; Vote: Reckoner
I think this is the scum....trying to jump on the wagons in the middle to avoid notice.
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Updating. Typing as I read.
What was that? A defense? Ugh.jasonT1981 wrote:
And can you be 100% certain I am scum?
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whoa really? who had the most votes at the time of your vote? Are you saying that you didnt know there was a wagon forming at the time of your vote?Locke Lamora wrote:How did I know there was going to be a Reckoner wagon? That was before he put his vote on Jason and got called out on it; the Reckoner wagon didn't even exist.
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I am pretty sure I have seen Zone blow up for these reasons as scum and town. Null tell at best. My impression, I think ZA thinks he is the shit and gets fustrated at reasonless wagons. I can say this, because I can relate. I too get fustrated and curse like sailor when wagoned for little reason. Though it should be noted, that I have have never seen ZA go to that extreme.EmpTyger wrote:
While I don’t have any experience with Zoneace, I have seen mafia in other games react this way when they feel they’re getting attention for illegitimate reasons. And I can certainly see it possible for a guilty Zoneace to have thought that he should not be facing a lynch (and perhaps being bussed by Jason?) for the reasons he was. In any case, according to VP, it sounds like this behavior isn’t exceptional enough that it would be difficult for him to feign it if necessary.
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Why?ChannelDelibird wrote:
I feel much better about LL after his recent exchange with Jason. I think I could happily lynch Reckoner or Jason at this stage.xRECKONERx wrote:What ABOUT CDB and ZONEACE?
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oh snap...cant wait to see what happens next.xRECKONERx wrote:Hey, so, how about I go ahead and get this over with since it seems like I'm going to inevitably be put at L-1 and I have to work tonight:
I'm the cop.
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if we do indeed have a cop...who (character) would it be? Also this is getting into a flavour/mod outguess debate.VP Baltar wrote:Kate as a cop seems strange considering she's a fugitive for most of the show. What was your question and answer now so if it comes up we know you are telling the truth.
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What? typical mafia fake claim is cop? Thought it was doctor? Juls, how many games have you been in that mafia claimed cop in Day 1? Actually how many games have you been in that mafia claimed cop?Juls wrote: I don't think Kate would be a cop. What is the typical fake claim of a mafia? Cop. I am not saying he is lying and I haven't voted him. But I do think a) if there is another "cop" they should not counterclaim because that is what scum-Reckoner would want and b) we should have a discussion regarding his claim.
I do agree that if there is another "cop" they should not claim.
I am a little confused by the reaction to the claim. Certianly he wont be lynched now. If he is the cop, it is a suicide claim today. He is not the lynch today.
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better question is why you still have your vote on him.Locke Lamora wrote: I also would like to know why CDB backed off so quickly and didn't say anything about the claim.-
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do i think the claim itself if scummy? No. Do I think the person who made the claim is scummy(which is what I think you are really asking me)...slighty.VP Baltar wrote:
Do you think questioning the cop claim is scummy?
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I don’t like Emp’s semantic/meta point….I also agree with VP that Emp’s case against Jebus looks fluffy.
Both Emp and VP’s talking points are getting lost in wall of words and are getting longer and longer.
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then why is your vote on Emp? I understand why your wagon swelled so fast.xRECKONERx wrote:Yeah, I'm still partial to a Jason lynch...
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Caught back up, I am still good with my vote. I think LL is the lynch today. I would also consider an Emp lynch, but would much rather see LL hang. i also dont like recknor's play...but I am not lynching a claimed cop today.-
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Fyi, before I am asked….my avatar change has nothing to do with this game. A current meta will discover why.
still waiting for an answer to his question.curiouskarmadog wrote:
in reference to what?xRECKONERx wrote:Hey, CKD, do you even read?
a hunch about you and your actions. the point wasnt so much about bandwagonning though it had something to do with it. It was how you bandwagonned and the timing of it. At first I was getting a scummy read off of jason, but now I am getting more of a newbie read. though it could still be newbie scum, your actions seem more calculated.Locke Lamora wrote:
CKD: you still think I am the lynch because of your point about bandwagoning? Got anything else in the case on me? What do you think of our current vote leader, Jason?
That being said, I really don’t like CB either.
how has jason hopped anymore than anyone else like recknor or LL?canadianbovine wrote:is the deadline really in 3 days?
vote: Jason
didnt really like the bread crumbing of roles, how you've vote hopped, etc. [rehashed argument.]
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jason, I dont think you are scum, but if you are a role that might help the town..you need to claim for you have the majority. if you are vanilla or scum, you are shit out of luck. but if you got a role that will be helpful to avoid lynching you you need to claim sooner than later. to withhold information is spiteful and basically immature.....and not really protown.jasonT1981 wrote:no... you want my role, you lynch me.
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I didnt see this,ZONEACE wrote:xRECKONERx wrote:EBWOP:
I totally forgot my target. I investigated VP Baltar. And I think given the characters, a thief could be perfect.
wait a minute....you just said your number one suspect was jason..why did you investigate VP then? you forgot who you investigated? You understand how important a cop is right? also, you can simply look at your sent messages for that information...
no, I dont buy this bullshit at all..
revote RECKONER-
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do you have a question or are you just wonder general thoughts?
I didnt believe he forgot who he investigated. I dont believe his explanation that "what I really meant was..." I also dont believe that with Jason and Emp as his top two targets, that he chose you to investigate.
I think that Emp is probably his partner and is bussing him right now. and I understand why you asked what you did in post 607.NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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thats a little more difficult. I think that the earlier pressure based on his posts were silly. maybe because I have a meta on him, but his posts were a null tell at best. of course that was day 1, so everybody is looking for something to go on.
he seems hot to trot to lynch Reck...but I dont blame him in the least.
neutral on ZA (not really leaning one way or the other either)
do think we should not lynch him yet (mods got plans or questions??)
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you know I still am confused....you say you KNOW reck is town and it is not based on flavor. but then you say this I am not sure. it also sounds like you dont KNOW, but rather THINK he is town...am I correct in this?Santos wrote:
For this game, half of everything I've been defending based on the theme of this game. The other half is what I would bet the rest of this game on - knowing RECKONER is town not based on anything else than knowing what's gone on so far: with what RECK has said and what others/myself have said/know.curious wrote:might be a silly question, please tell me your definition of flavor.
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well that is what I am trying to figure out. when someone says "knows"..I think they know something....but I am believing what he really meant is "think". and it does look like that think is based on opinion and flavor.VP Baltar wrote:
He doesn't KNOW anything about reckoner. He's apparently hell bent on arguing a very bad point on some information he has that he believes reckoner does as well, it seems. Whether that is coming from town failing at being helpful, or scum trying to save their buddy, I don't know.ckd wrote:is anyone else confused with what he is saying?
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LOL, I am about 2-4 pages behind..going to be traveling soon..so expect a post monday night.
reck, funny how to paint my posts scummy.
I jumped on your wagon because I didnt believe that the fucking cop would "forget" who he investigated and investigated someone who wasnt his "top two" suspects.
I jumped off your wagon because I thought Santos was soft claiming that you were innocent.
when i found out santos was just going on "gut" (essentially) I jumped back on.
I am currently unvoting because I have behind on the game and dont want my vote.
for the record, I still dont buy your claim...but dont want to lynch you before I am caught up.-
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because I dont know what has been said...i dont know exactly who has confirmed what....last I read, santos basically said he thought you were scum...I dont know if he has said anything recently.
would you rather I keep my vote on you, even though i dont know what is going on?
thats as protown as a cop who forgot who he investigated.-
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first of all I obviously meant Santos thought you were "town"...come on now that was obvious...
I went back to pull the quote where you state you forgot your target....
and found it.
and also found this.xRECKONERx wrote:EBWOP:
I totally forgot my target. I investigated VP Baltar. And I think given the characters, a thief could be perfect. Would one of the characters not fit the thief flavor? Or maybe I was just a one-shot cop and wasn't told I was? I have no idea what kind of altered roles can appear - this is honestly my first themed game other than my first one here (Robot Chicken Mafia), and I had no clue what was going on during that one.
clearly I am behind on the game and need to give it a good read (which I have stated I will do in the next 48 hours)xRECKONERx wrote:
I didn't forget who I investigated. I forgot to post it because as soon as I saw that PM I was like "Well, shit... this is going to end poorly." My #1 suspect was Jason, but I figured with the Doc claim, either I'd be dead or he would on D2. If he was still alive I planned on coming at him full-force on D2. I was right (Yeah, maybe a bit of a gamble) and he was killed. My #2 suspect was Emp, but I thought knowing VP's alignment would be more helpful to town.
I was wrong about him forgetting who he targeted.
this is why I am not voting you..because I currently dont have a handle on this game...and there is clearly stuff that I am missing.-
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Updating now…going back to where santos said he “knew” that Reck was town…about page 26.
Stil confused what this means.
==Porochaz wrote:Day ended a day early due to the answers given to me from the questions. The last couple of votecounts and previous votecounts reflected that.
this (lurking) appears to be across the board..VP Baltar wrote:
CDB, your lurking is officially scummy now. Congrats.
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he is not a cop anymore, so what is your delimma?canadianbovine wrote: i never took a position on reckoner. i still do nto believe in lynching an un cc cop. If anything i'd like to lynch tyger. or hell, probably you, because you have attempted to push the lynch of a cop for 2 days now, and are trying to place it .
but your point was, you didnt want to lynch a cop...so what is your point now?canadianbovine wrote:yet if he was a cop, then i would assume that would mean that he is now on the town side, which would mean that we would still lose our 6 players, and be in lylo. and guess what, if he WAS the cop, we've already lost the cop, so all in all, we lost the [ex]cop and the doctor. so we put the blame on the [ex]cop?
i.do.not.endorse.a.reckoner.lynch.if.you.guys.want.to.lynch.him.go.ahead.because.i.do.not.want.to.
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what did ZA say that was remotely role fishing?Santos wrote:are you rolefishing?
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QFTVP Baltar wrote:I don't think you have any place to call the town idiotic there, Reckoner. Your play has been utterly atrocious this game if you are indeed town.
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I could see this....have the ability, going to the island loses the ability. Reck, did you think that could be it? Why did you go immediately to RB or theiving? Did you have a choice to go to the island?VP Baltar wrote:Well, I think that if reckoner is telling the truth (with Santos as corraboration), moving to the island may be related to his losing the ability. I'm not saying I straight up believe him, but it's enough to make me second guess the overwhelming push to get him lynched quickly at the start of the day.
VP, who would say did the pushing?
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were you asked a question?VP Baltar wrote:
In other news I'm sure that Juls can appreciate, I just became a miller due to the last round of questioning. I now believe there was/is a cop and that one of CDB,CDK, or canadianbovine is the correct lynch.
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wait, are you saying you went back to the island because you lost your powers, or you lost your powers because you went to the island?xRECKONERx wrote:Whoa, notice how quickly the opinion on me changes.
Yes, I'm saying two things:
1) I got roleblocked.
2) My losing my powers had everything to do with me moving back to the island.
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was behind on game, didnt want my vote there unless I knew what was going on.VP Baltar wrote:
@ckd-what changed? I thought you didn't believe reckoner?
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I agree.VP Baltar wrote:More votes on canadianbovine please.
Vote canadianbovine
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I am caught up now. My general thoughts.
First of all, most of the talk about questions and on/off the island is way over my head. I haven’t been asked a question and haven’t changed my position on/off the island. So I am at a loss to what Emp’s revelation was. I don’t have a clue how to analyze the timing of questions or day endings or whatever.
Santos and Reck are a conundrum. I didn’t believer Reck’s initial claim, mainly because I didn’t believe that someone would forget the investigation. That’s what I get for skimming. I still find it hard to believe that he investigated someone that wasnt his top two scum suspects. But I wouldn’t know who is scum suspects were, unless he told us…so, meh. Also the claim that VP is now a miller gives some sort of credibility to the gain a power lose a power thing.
Don’t really have a read on CDB or Juls.
Feel ok about VP, he seems to be actively scum hunting…and ZA seems to be his same old self…but if they are scum, I assume they would be acting the same.
Also, something about Emp’s play is different..cant put my finger on it, but it seems reactive instead of proactive…ehhh.
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I actually dont understand some of your questions.Santos wrote:
canadianbovine is a good choice so far, butVote: curiouskarmadog, you're reading up on the thread and answering questions and asking them, but you're not playing the board; you just voted canadianbovine and moved on to talk more with VP Baltar. Who cares about VP when you've already placed your dedicated vote somewhere?
Also, curious, are you more inclined to keep your vote on canadianbovine now?
Who is number two on your suspects list? Would the name of a person's claim and innocence or guilt on a death result make you more inclined to believe flavor or not?
Also, Juls, why are you opposed to claiming? Would you agree or disagree thatJuliet Burkewould be vanilla townie or a traitor, or just complete scum? And, how do canadianbovine's posts suit you now that he claimed?
"who cares about VP when you vote is somewhere else" what a silly question. just because my vote is somewhere, does mean I stop scum hunting. When you vote someone do you stop scum hunting? How many scum do you think are in this game?
Number two suspect, Emp.
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I dont know..will having the information out and open, will that help scum/hurt town? it sounds like it will shed some light..so it is up to you.VP Baltar wrote:Can you give us a paraphrase of your flavor bovine? Have you received any questions?
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when I first read it, I didnt like how he used the word "power" at night.canadianbovine wrote:
I am juliet burke. I worked for the others 3 years ago, and have since joined the islanders.VP wrote:
Can you give us a paraphrase of your flavor bovine? Have you received any questions?
I am vanilla town, my special power is to vote, and my night power is the power of sleep.
my role may change over time.
went back and read the sample town to see how much info, was provided there.
then I was getting dressed for work and realized he added something that wasnt in the sample PM.Porochaz wrote:
You are Vanilla, you have the power of a vote during the day, with which you can use to help lynch mafia. During the night, you can do one thing, and that is sleep.
You win when the mafia is eliminated
this is why it is Anti-town...I am vanilla too.
I went back to compare my PM to his paraphrased one.
a.) it is almost in the exact format...
b.) he added the line "my role may change over time."..now it is not the exact wordage..but the format is correct and it is very close. That sentence is not in the sample town PM....and the format upon which he claimed it is practically correct.
it would be a hell of a guess to put that in there and in the correct location.-
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we did have a discussion about role changing, but not exactly how it is said in a vanilla PM....VP Baltar wrote:Hint #1: we already had this discussion with Reckoner regarding the changing role.
Hint #2: mods do give out fakeclaims from time to time.
Hint #3: canadianbovine is scum.
fake claim, maybe, but the exact spacing?..I have seen fake claims before, but nothing like this. which leads me to believe, that you have no clue what I am looking at. If you did, you would get it.
at any rate,
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CB, what was this?....also, how do you (CDB)know it is Korean?...ChannelDelibird wrote:canadianbovine, post 40 wrote:EmpTyger wrote: Reckoner:
Who has been “pushing for a wagon on the basis of obvious scum”, rather than RVing?xRECKONERx [36] wrote: I also don't like the pushing for a Lockewagon. RV on Locke, okay. Pushing for a wagon on the basis of obvious scum, no.
[says to someone who hasnt posted yet]
그는 그녀를 좋아하는 그녀가 알고 있는것 같아요 ?-
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I dont know the alignment of Santos....he said he knew you were telling the truth..so I unvoted...once I asked him a question HIS answer was wishy washy at best...at first it seemed like he just "thought" you were telling the truth...so you got my vote back...but he has since claimed (some what) so the vote is off.
noting the fact that you are blatantly ignoring why I unvoted/revoted...it was the right thing to do at the time.
also speaking of trigger happy...how many votes hops did you have day 1? also between the two of us...who was on the wagon of a townie? who was the one who claimed cop, but can not produce an investigation result and now doesnt have an ability. The only reason your scummy ass doesnt have my vote IS because of Santos is saving it. so dont think my opinion of you has changed...there is nothing wishy washy about anything I am saying.-
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On the jebus lynch was CB, EMp, and reck. I would bet money that 1 (or more) scum was on this lynch...call it gut
I found all 3 scummy because
I think Reck's claim, reclaim, and actions are scummy, but Santos is soft claiming to vouch for him. So they are either scum together or Santos is scum trying to buddy up. At any rate, unless something else happens...they shouldnt be lynched today. Also, something about Reck statement about his role may change rings true with my PM.
CB, was next in line, scum votes and jumps, general play....but his claim is TOO like mine. granted I understand fake claims given by mods, but this was just too close to be a coincidence.
Emp was next in line....it is more of meta reason...I have seen him make better cases and make stronger stances on people he believes are town or scum...this play seems like Emplight.
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CB, please explain the korean in your post.NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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juls, he didnt start out as vanilla so how is he going to know why inital PM...also, I think if he could vouch for me, he a.) would have done so by now and b.) wouldnt be voting me.
strange question.
also CB, why did you chose to talk in Korean? so you did it because Reck did? why dont say some tagline for kate? you had to know at one point me might all have to claim, why did you think that would be a good idea?NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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