Mini 828 - ProzacMod 3 - Lost Mafia - Over

[canadianbovine]

/confirm.

[canadianbovine]

vote: jebus

for speaking in tongues.

[canadianbovine]

Vote: canadianbovine

Because I think I crashed your plane, brotha!

i havent even started season 5, i hope it doesnt get too spoiled for me.

am i ever going to have a game that you are not in?

[canadianbovine]

Threat? The biggest threats are the scum, obviously. I'm not sure what you mean...

CB, I think it's fate. We're destined to be together. Oh, look - fate - a Lost theme!
And that quote was Desmond from S2.

i recognized it, i am going very quickly through the lost thing. i went from s1-s4 during our first game together reckoner <3. its all fresh in my mind, only problem is abc.com doesnt have the first few episodes of s5, so i have to download it. so far first episodes almost done so i should be good.

emptyger, i am getting up to speed.

and please, people, no season 6, AT ALL.

[canadianbovine]

i would also like to point everyones attention to my sig to mention that i am going to be in very limited access from the 8th to the 15th, that starts 7 days from today! i told porochaz about this in the queue he said its fine, basically im going camping in yosemite national park, and would have a lot of trouble finding internet access.

there was problems in a previous game about me not "announcing" i was v/la, when in fact i was, and i hope that this post will eliminate that.

[canadianbovine]

Reckoner:

I also don't like the pushing for a Lockewagon. RV on Locke, okay. Pushing for a wagon on the basis of obvious scum, no.

Who has been “pushing for a wagon on the basis of obvious scum”, rather than RVing?

[says to someone who hasnt posted yet]

그는 그녀를 좋아하는 그녀가 알고 있는것 같아요 ?

[canadianbovine]

Reckoner:
…That’s your interpretation of Jebus’s post? Don’t you think that’s a little overliteral for the first 12 hours into the game? Why don’t you think that he was RVing there?

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CB:
Are you asking me something?

no i was just quoting the koreans.

[canadianbovine]

Reckoner:
…That’s your interpretation of Jebus’s post? Don’t you think that’s a little overliteral for the first 12 hours into the game? Why don’t you think that he was RVing there?

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CB:
Are you asking me something?

no i was just quoting the koreans.

i said "do you think she knows that he loves her" for those who dont know how to translate things online.

[canadianbovine]

To be honest, I find it hard to believe any such wagon would be serious at this stage of the game.

Are you a Drench alt?

Not really, I was just making the point.... No bandwagon at the RVS is serious, and you are not going to get a lynch out of it... however it can be good information to go on as in who hopped on and off etc.

are we even in the RVS anymore?

[canadianbovine]

wow.

that was..quite a read.

Zoneace, i understand frustration, yet i dont think that level of raging was necessary for 3 out of 7 votes on page..4? we all saw it wasnt going to result in your lynch.

Drench, lrn2sarcasm, that bandwagon was not going anywhere.

[canadianbovine]

Im sorry, but my vote is still on who it was put on... I will admit, if someone was acting scummier i would move my vote.

As I said, yes I tried to put what others said in my own words as a way of catching up with the game as I had been away for a bit.

And whats wrong with moving my vote if I see something scummier?

locke said the same thing to you over and over again.

catching up in both thread and lost, just watched 2nd episode of 5th season.

why did no one quick lynch jason? =P

[canadianbovine]

edit: cause im thinking of jacob

[canadianbovine]

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why did no one quick lynch jason? =P

this here alarms me really to be honest... why has no one quick lynched me?

you understood why i was saying that though right? i wasnt being serious, i dont want a drench situation.

[canadianbovine]

We can't go off much more than vibes on D1 unless someone just fucks up royally.

you dont consider some of the things that have happened fuck ups?


maybe a thought..

Zoneace was always doing what seemed to be rounding up to halfway to being lynched...is it possible this was a softclaim for HT? i dont think this is role fishing, its just a different way to look at it, and would certainly explain why he blew up...considering how many characters there are on lost that would be a HT. I dont like how he's disappeared since however.

how does CDB's history of roles and comfortableness with his VOTE confirm him as scum? that makes no sense.

[canadianbovine]

good to see your still around, i was worried for a little bit cause i thought about how prozac mod said he'd deal with you, thought maybe he gave you an ingame mute.

[canadianbovine]

sorry guys, got back from vacation then kind of lost interest, im really trying to come back.

Canadianbovine and Jebus have been prodded

Canadianbovine was prodded? what?

unvote:Jebus

i've had that on you since the RVS.

someone asked what i meant by HT

, HT =Hated Town, one who needs one less vote for a lynch. That would of explained why Zoneace rounded up to "halfway to a lynch". On a show like lost it seems like there would be at least one HT.

Forgot canadianbovine said she would be away until the 15th

[head to desk] im a guy.


Wow Reckoners a cop. Strange that kate would be a cop. Just realize that that reiterates what VPB and Juls said.

On the subject of flavor mine is season 5. There is a little bit of background, but it is exactly a role of how he or she is season 5

I'm a cop, straight up, and I can investigate people every night and get a guilty result.

Everynight get a guilty result? PARANOID COP -points finger-.

Regarding the flavour claim: I can actually buy Kate as a cop. She doesn't let things go (and I don't really see a more obvious candidate for the role in the cast anyway).

I would actually expect a Other to be a cop because a lot of the Others seem to have a lot of information about the survivors of 815. sorry if im outguessing the mod.

No, but I have shaped the lives of others for many years and keep calm under pressure... even when guns are pointed at me accusingly like they have been in this game

Nice softclaim here. This one can go either way, and im not fully done with season 5 [im on about episode 6] so im unsure of what side you'd be on.

If Jason flips scum, you are almost certainly his buddy.

[VPB's post was directed @ emptyger] Does this mean that we're lynching Jason tonight? thats a bold statement, i felt that his vote on jebus was an understood pressure vote

No, but I’m willing to lynch Jebus over his behavior this entire day. (and more on this below)

His behavior? How about lack thereof? he disappeared and half of his posts after a long one have all been "yikes activity bbl." If you can lynch someone for that...well shit.

Yeah, I'm still partial to a Jason lynch...

that was...very unhelpful.

[canadianbovine]

I'm a cop, straight up, and I can investigate people every night and get a guilty result.

not too sure on this one... how would he know he is paranoid? I have never come across a cop who knows he is paranoid/insane. unless it is a deathly game going into day 3/4 and there is alot of information.

It makes no sense for the mod to tell him he will get a guilty every night in his PM I dont think.

It was a semi reference to the ridiculousness of the "the, not a" argument. I also dont believe the mod would tell cop of sanity.

[canadianbovine]

Thank you for sticking with us canadianbovine.

What do you think of Emptyger? Do you think he would make a good lynch today? If not, who would you like to see lynched today and why?

Pleasure...i sent a pm to the mod on saturday asking to be replaced and he told me to give it a few days.

Emptyger.. i've got my eye on him. i dont think a Lynch the lurker argument is very good for the first day. then again...first day, no roles are really out there [except reck] i honestly think jason might be good. i dont like how he's breadcrumbing the role..thats the term right?

[canadianbovine]

No, but I have shaped the lives of others for many years and keep calm under pressure... even when guns are pointed at me accusingly like they have been in this game

Nice softclaim here. This one can go either way, and im not fully done with season 5 [im on about episode 6] so im unsure of what side you'd be on.

Keep watching But my eyes have been on some people for many years. You never know where you will find me... Portland, Miami or maybe even Tustin, California

[canadianbovine]

is the deadline really in 3 days?

vote: Jason

didnt really like the bread crumbing of roles, how you've vote hopped, etc. [rehashed argument.]

[canadianbovine]

Juls sig reminded me that my school year starts on the 24th as well. so i might slow down in participation.

[canadianbovine]

can anyone explain to me why richard would be a doctor?

im not totally caught up. His breadcrumbing was not subtle, however, because im not done with season 5, i thought it was Ben.

[canadianbovine]

I see it like this

If I say I can protect the cop... the scum know not to target him and can almost guarantee a night kill elsewhere..

If I say I can not protect the cop then they know they are free to go at him, and the guilty result the cop could hypothetically get in the night on someone (assumning he investigates correctly) will have gone to waste and we will never know.

Does that make sense?

"if i say i can protect the cop, the scum will not target the cop" So there going to hit a VT, or maybe at worst a vig. Or scum will just kill you tonight. no matter who gets killed, in this scenario we get a cop investigation -assuming no roleblocker-

and the second paragraph is poor assumed play on towns part because that assumes the town will be playing follow the 'cop'

[canadianbovine]

you know I did not want to claim doctor and was very hesitant to do so. I was considering claiming Vanilla so as to guarentee being able to protect someone in the night.

as I said, you want to lynch me... lynch me... as for my vote. Happy where it is thank you

Believe me or not if you wish. I don't care

asks to someone not jason:

Would richard being a VT of been believable? asking cause not done with s5. because he was obvious Richard, and that comment above bounced and pinged the scumdar.

[canadianbovine]

I see it like this

If I say I can protect the cop... the scum know not to target him and can almost guarantee a night kill elsewhere..

If I say I can not protect the cop then they know they are free to go at him, and the guilty result the cop could hypothetically get in the night on someone (assumning he investigates correctly) will have gone to waste and we will never know.

Does that make sense?

"if i say i can protect the cop, the scum will not target the cop" So there going to hit a VT, or maybe at worst a vig. Or scum will just kill

you

tonight. no matter who gets killed, in this scenario we get a cop investigation -assuming no roleblocker-

Why wouldn't they just kill the doc?

that is what i said, "you" was referring to Jason, who last time i checked claimed doctor.

[canadianbovine]

unvote: vote: jebus

.

Do not support an uncclaimed power role lynch on day 1.

FOS: LL

for coming to the poor logical deduction that we should lynch the cop.

[canadianbovine]

MOD: whats your timezone? that will help some of us know when the actual deadline is.

[canadianbovine]

So if I 'safe claimed' as someone like Jin or Sun, would you think more of me as scum or town based off your belief?

Sun is obv a mafia usurper, trying to kill godfather Ben.

[canadianbovine]

Locke was actually Locke... funny.

[canadianbovine]

Locke was actually Locke... funny.

That's all you have to say after lurking most of D1...what's your opinion of Reckoner?

excuse me? thats a powerful statement. 7 days i was gone, a saturday to saturday, then i didnt go back because i couldnt get myself to come back until wednesday. if its bad that i missed your bitch out with emptyger over minor details, then please, i apologize.

i think reckoner is either scum or very very unlucky with how this worked out for him.

[canadianbovine]

seriously guys? one day and 3 pages?

mod closes the game what to me is a day early?

what is going on, is this game hosted in japan? -joke-


reckoner is tripping on his words. a lot.

for the record i started on island so the idea of you being on and off the island means your scum is null.

then again, as ZA loves to remind us, we shouldnt worry be biased by lost connections.

[canadianbovine]

*we shouldn't be biased. don't know why worry is included in there.

[canadianbovine]

Vote canadianbovine

an iso read has confirmed my suspicion that he and Reckoner are scum buddies. Look back at how stealthily avoids taking any solid position on the reckoner situation until today when the wagon is steadily chugging along. Now he is finally coming around to the idea. (<--none of this is really confirmable until an alignment flip)


Furthermore, what few solid stances he has taken in this game have all been against confirmed town members and his push for the jason lynch yesterday doesn't feel right.

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CDB, your lurking is officially scummy now. Congrats.

Juls, comment on something! I have no idea what your alignment is in this game and I don't like that.

i never took a position on reckoner. i still do nto believe in lynching an un cc cop. If anything i'd like to lynch tyger. or hell, probably you, because you have attempted to push the lynch of a cop for 2 days now, and are trying to place it .

you saying that my push for a jason lynch is null coming from you.

In my defense, he was acting scummy and until his claim i supported his lynch.

In my offense, YOU have been on reckoner since acting scummy and still support his lynch after his claim.

I'll take a look at canadian in iso to see if I get the same impressions you did. I'm wary that canadiantown was lynched as town recently for not being the sharpest tool in the box, though, as Reckoner should be, seeing as he was in that game as well.

are you sure you read up on that game after you were NK'd? i was NK'd night 3 being the doctor, i was almost lynched twice in that game, the second wagon being very scum driven.

in closing.

vote: vp baltar

[canadianbovine]

no it was because i write things as i read through, since i always come home to 1-3 pages to read. i voted you because i dont like the fact that you still pushed a reckoners lynch. maybe i dont think he's had protown behaivour, maybe i've felt that he's been very unlucky. maybe he is a cop and maybe he did lose his power. Then what? then its day 3, we've lost cop and doc, we've lost an additional 4 more town players. I say 4 because i think we've assumed that there is a serial killer, unless this game has weird post day 1 flavor kills? didnt think so. Anyways, 6 town players gone, it'll be lylo tommorow. I'm not ready to take that risk by voting for the one person who is currently cop.

[canadianbovine]

yet if he was a cop, then i would assume that would mean that he is now on the town side, which would mean that we would still lose our 6 players, and be in lylo. and guess what, if he WAS the cop, we've already lost the cop, so all in all, we lost the [ex]cop and the doctor. so we put the blame on the [ex]cop?

i.do.not.endorse.a.reckoner.lynch.if.you.guys.want.to.lynch.him.go.ahead.because.i.do.not.want.to.

[canadianbovine]

So no matter how scummy a player is, all they have to do is claim cop and you give them a free pass forever? Noted if I'm ever scum against you.

noted if you ever claim cop in a game i am in, i'll push your lynch forever [games after, even].

[canadianbovine]

ugh, bovine is being so unhelpful and just argumentative for no reason other that "he knows" reck is town because he claimed kate and cop.


TELL US WHY YOU KNOW HE IS TOWN. YOU STILL HAVEN'T EXPLAINED IT.

i've never used the word "know" and neither have you. i do not want to doom the town. i have placed my vote on who i deem scummy based on his actions.

[canadianbovine]

*neither

should

you

[canadianbovine]

I get the feeling that canadian is being stubborn for stubborn's sake. It's annoying. Stop it.

i've said all that needs to be said about that.

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CB:

no it was because i write things as i read through, since i always come home to 1-3 pages to read. i voted you because i dont like the fact that you still pushed a reckoners lynch. maybe i dont think he's had protown behaivour, maybe i've felt that he's been very unlucky. maybe he is a cop and maybe he did lose his power. Then what? then its day 3, we've lost cop and doc, we've lost an additional 4 more town players. I say 4 because i think we've assumed that there is a serial killer, unless this game has weird post day 1 flavor kills? didnt think so. Anyways, 6 town players gone, it'll be lylo tommorow. I'm not ready to take that risk by voting for the one person who is currently cop.

Wait right there.
“We” haven’t done any such assuming. There hasn’t even been any discussion even remotely related to this. (And incidentally a SK in that situation you outline would not be targeting innocents.)

Moreover, if you believe that Reckoner was a cop, then if he were targeted by a thief, we’d still have a cop.

I don’t like either of these assumptions.

As for Reckoner/CB: I remember considering it and rejecting it, because the last second switch from Jason to Jebus made me think CB was unlikely to be aligned with a mafia Reckoner. (In fact, I remember considering whether he could be a SK, but dismissed that too.)
Reconsidering now, though- I might have been too hasty. I am still leaning towards CB being more likely to be in a non-Reckoner mafia.

im pretty sure that there was someone today who said something about a SK. if your saying that i was the first to bring up the SK idea is incorrect, someone discussed it.

im not quite getting the second thing. He was our cop at some point or another. thats what i meant. i believe in a post to zoneace last night i said [ex]cop. that should be applied to the quoted paragraph of myself above.

im honestly surprisesd im considered to be in a team of a [ex]cop and myself.

Yeah, I would vouch for RECKONER in losing an ability now being on the island.

if reckoner is scum, im pushing your lynch.

To the person who I was hoping would understand me:
I think I know who you are. I know I know what you are.

I cannot protect you. Do not come forward, or identify yourself as my audience in any way.

I was wrong- not about everything, but about enough- and I’m sorry, and please believe me.

(Still rereading)

okay seriously...you've been hiding lots of things and your addressing a partner.

unvote:vote Emptyger

im assuming your partner is someone who doesnt read the quicktopic before they read the thread, and you want them to not comment on/continue some sort of plan you had.

In other news I'm sure that Juls can appreciate, I just became a miller due to the last round of questioning. I now believe there was/is a cop and that one of CDB,CDK, or canadianbovine is the correct lynch.

hmm do i change my vote this quickly?

no i will not. You became a miller....so you think there only was a cop? what if theres a new cop?

[canadianbovine]

no i will not. You became a miller....so you think there only was a cop? what if theres a new cop?

Well, let's see, the very quote you posted read as follows: "I now believe there

was/is

a cop ". Bold added for your ease of understanding. That being said, I don't think we need to role fish and find out if there still is.

I'm curious, why would you want to switch your vote back to me because I said I became a miller?

convenient excuse incase a cop investigates and comes up guilty, mais non?

[canadianbovine]

More votes on canadianbovine please.

for what purpose?

[canadianbovine]

alright now then, there are 3 votes on me currently? not 100% on that.

lynching me.... the last time we needed to lynch someone, we chose the wrong person because they didnt contribute or post a lot. Deja vu?

i claim at L-1? dont quicklynch me (to those who are posting here when i have school[im talking about Zoneace, VP, Reckoner.])

[canadianbovine]

alright now then, there are 3 votes on me currently? not 100% on that.

lynching me.... the last time we needed to lynch someone, we chose the wrong person because they didnt contribute or post a lot. Deja vu?

i claim at L-1? dont quicklynch me (to those who are posting here when i have school[im talking about Zoneace, VP, Reckoner.])

or if you're worried you could just claim now.

rolefishing?

[canadianbovine]

fine.

Juliet Burke

, Vanilla Townie.

my ability did not change in the night, i have always been a VT.

[canadianbovine]

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CB:
You went to a lot of trouble to breadcrumb Korean- why?

<snip>
lynching me.... the last time we needed to lynch someone, we chose the wrong person because they didnt contribute or post a lot. Deja vu?
<snip>

Yeah, 3 of us were voting Jebus who wasn’t contributing.
Another 3 of us *were* voting LL and Jason, who were participating.
What’s your point?

minor details...korean. you're overthinking my claim.

your changing what i said. the town has been 0/4 for trying to lynch people.

Can you give us a paraphrase of your flavor bovine? Have you received any questions?

I am juliet burke. I worked for the others 3 years ago, and have since joined the islanders.

I am vanilla town, my special power is to vote, and my night power is the power of sleep.

my role may change over time.

as i've said, it hasnt yet.

As far as my opinion of CB having changed due to his nameclaim, not really. I don't understand ZONEACE's flip considering how hard he has been pushing Santos/Reckoner.

It's been made clear by recent events that lynching either of them today is a lost cause. I also don't have good feeling about CB (which i have expressed), so, he's the next logical step.

I'll continue my push for Reck and Santos, and likely revote Reck tomorrow, but for now my vote is of more use on CB.

Bovine still needs more dead, btw.

-shrug- guys arent believing me? i've done what i could to try to tell you i am vanilla.

[canadianbovine]

mod:

I would like a votecount please. I think my vote on CB would be the hammer so I am trying to hold off so conversation can wrap up. Does anyone (besides CB) object to my hammer? Is there more to be discussed?

you dont believe im a Vanilla Townie?

[canadianbovine]

I did a quick votecount and think CB’s at 3: VP, CKD, Zoneace. But don’t treat that as official. There’s no rush, and at the very least there’s still Santos’s explaining for today.

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CB:
Let’s try this one more time. This time, why don’t you not evade the questions that someone who isn’t voting you is asking you when at best you’re at lynch-2 with someone else willing to vote you.

1) Why did you breadcrumb Korean? I don’t care if it’s “minor details”. I want you to explain those minor details.

2) No, *you’re* changing what you said. Which was this:

<snip>
lynching me.... the last time we needed to lynch someone, we chose the wrong person because they didnt contribute or post a lot. Deja vu?
<snip>

Not this

<snip>
the town has been 0/4 for trying to lynch people.
<snip>

So, again, what’s your point? Are you saying that since some of us voted innocents yesterday, you must be an innocent today?

i didnt breadcrumb anything, this like you pushing the fact of "a" or "the" cop. That was early in the game, when others were quoting lost characters, i was quoting the koreans.


when the people of this game have pushed the lynch of a lurker, he flipped a power role. also bandwagoned on VT, and a doctor. what im saying is the players have had bad karma with who've they have placed their votes on. at the moment, players are going for the 4th town player dead. which is a mistake. LyLo tommorow, correct?

[canadianbovine]

interested in santos' point after everyone thinks names are scum finders...

also, CB claim is full of fail.

why is my claim full of fail?

This is the biggest bunch of BS scare tactics I have seen in awhile. You were on the freaking Jebus lynch I was trying to stop! Or did you forget that now that your head's on the chopping block? Also, you voting patterns yesterday show that you were consistently going after confirmed town players. Now you are trying to play the good guy and say that everyone sure seems to be making a lot of mistakes this game. Rolling Eyes

and i didnt want to lynch the confirmed cop [yesterday or today]. my vote was to prevent lynching the cop and instead lynching what ended up being a power role. if it was bad play on my part.. "my bad"

Hint #1: we already had this discussion with Reckoner regarding the changing role.

Hint #2: mods do give out fakeclaims from time to time.

Hint #3: canadianbovine is scum.

#1. my role didnt change. i have stated this many times.

#2. isnt fakeclaiming VT the dumbest thing one can do?

#3. no im not.

2) Didn't CB blatantly crumb one of the Koreans on Day 1? What the hell was that about then?

CB, what was this?....also, how do you (CDB)know it is Korean?...

Reckoner:
…That’s your interpretation of Jebus’s post? Don’t you think that’s a little overliteral for the first 12 hours into the game? Why don’t you think that he was RVing there?


CB:
Are you asking me something?


no i was just quoting the koreans.

Reckoner:
…That’s your interpretation of Jebus’s post? Don’t you think that’s a little overliteral for the first 12 hours into the game? Why don’t you think that he was RVing there?

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CB:
Are you asking me something?

no i was just quoting the koreans.

i said "do you think she knows that he loves her" for those who dont know how to translate things online.

"Do you think she knows that he loves her" i put that into google English to Korean and got that, quick posted, seeing as how i know nothing on korean grammar, was probably why zoneace got it.

Jin said that to sun, season 4? first we find out about Daniel loving Charlotte? i liked the quote. Its like how reckoner said desmonds line.


also dont single read, i did early on, RVS, drench freaking out about the locke bandwagon.

On the jebus lynch was CB, EMp, and reck. I would bet money that 1 (or more) scum was on this lynch...call it gut

I said this at the beginning of today. That entire wagon looked premeditated. except for emp (who was on jebus for a long time) it was like the wagon was specifically an attempt to derail the reckoner wagon yesterday.

look at who is protecting emptyger.

FOS: Zoneace

i didnt have my vote on him for like 4 days the whole Mafia Day. i also put my vote to avoid a reckoner lynch, and was hoping there would be more development, but beacuse of choices that were made the game day was ended early.

[canadianbovine]

look at who is protecting emptyger.

FOS: Zoneace

.................... I'm not protecting Emp. but you go back and look, EMP was voting Jebus long before anyone else and wasn't part of the wagon hop that prevented Reck from being hanged.

SO NICE TRY WITH ATTEMPTING TO LINK ME AND EMP BUT ITS FULL OF FAIL, LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE YOU DO.


I'm now more than ok with a CB lynch today. He is clearly full of crap and just trying to throw suspicion and everyone he can and hoping it sticks to someone so he can escape death.

honestly Z, when i die, i would kill to see the look on your face when reckoner turns up town and you and your wise ass is wrong.

Seriously dude this is the internet, your ego is outplaying you.

Quit using caps, we can all still read what you are typing.

Quit using long dots like we're stupid, we're not in your 'perfect' head, and we dont all share your opinion, you aren't correct all the time.

You've been here since 2003. One would assume that would mean that you're at least 6 years old. im assuming that this account wasn't created in celebration of your birth, im assuming you created this account. To have good enough computer skills i would assume you were about 5. so now you're at least 11.

How about acting your age, asshole.

[canadianbovine]

So you're not going to dispute me about the fact that you're full of crap and trying to get suspicion to stick on anyone that's not you?

WEll, that's a gutsy play CB, lets see how it works out for you.

you mean like you?

why even worry about me anymore, im practically chopped liver. lets see how losing another 3 town members tonight works out for the town?

[canadianbovine]

juls, he didnt start out as vanilla so how is he going to know why inital PM...also, I think if he could vouch for me, he a.) would have done so by now and b.) wouldnt be voting me.

strange question.

also CB, why did you chose to talk in Korean? so you did it because Reck did? why dont say some tagline for kate? you had to know at one point me might all have to claim, why did you think that would be a good idea?

why would i quote kate?

im juliet, remember?

3 town members tongiht? there were only 2 kills last night, did you just let slip something?

Also, the last person that was "chopped liver" is still alive, so I think i'll continue to worry about you, since the town seems unwilling to lynch scummy players.

since im lynched at dusk, dusk is the start of night.

Me (1) + Scum kill (2) + SK/vig kill (3)

how many votes am i at.

[canadianbovine]

not nearly enough


and I still don't get why you posted a korean quote from Jin, if you're Juliet. posting a quote like that is clearly something a person does if they want to breadcrumb something, but why breadcrumb a role you arent.

i was having fun with the game, that was in the point of RVS.

again. Reckoner breadcrumbing desmond...yet no ones asking why he isnt desmond. I breadcrumbed Jin...so everyone assumes im Jin? What role could jin possibly fit?

[canadianbovine]

Holy crap, I forgot ChannelBird was playing.

Channel, what is your opinion on name claims and would you believe or not believe the flavor indicating alignment?

CanadianBovine, you have not answered the above, either. Please answer.

Also, CanadianBovine is appealing to emotion. Just thought I'd point that out since no one else seem to have done so.

name claims in this game mean nothing. CKD has said that he has nearly the same flavor in his quote as i do.

[outguess the mod time] in my little world, isnt a safeclaim usually just giving you a name that isnt used by others, or a role name?

This is a useless train of thought. What is CB at? L-3? L-1? I'm ready to vote him now. The AtE was just sad, and a quick iso read (I'm in class, can't pay 100% attention) is enough to convince me.

i've been asking the same question. lacking a vote count here mod.

---

CB:

<snip>
i was having fun with the game, that was in the point of RVS.

No, here’s the actual post:

Reckoner:

I also don't like the pushing for a Lockewagon. RV on Locke, okay. Pushing for a wagon on the basis of obvious scum, no.

Who has been “pushing for a wagon on the basis of obvious scum”, rather than RVing?

[says to someone who hasnt posted yet]

그는 그녀를 좋아하는 그녀가 알고 있는것 같아요 ?

Reckoner is making a serious point. I ask him a serious question. You quote us, and then add your line in response.

again. Reckoner breadcrumbing desmond...yet no ones asking why he isnt desmond. I breadcrumbed Jin...so everyone assumes im Jin? What role could jin possibly fit?

This might be more believable if your primary argument against Jason hadn’t been that you didn’t like how he breadcrumbed his role.

<snip>

3 town members tongiht? there were only 2 kills last night, did you just let slip something?
<snip>

since im lynched at dusk, dusk is the start of night.

Me (1) + Scum kill (2) + SK/vig kill (3)
<snip>

Why is (3) going to be killing a town? This is the second time that you’ve stated that.

what i said in korean has absolutely nothing to do with what you guys were talking about. it was irrelevant.

you make a valid point that i voted jason for breadcrumbing..

only im NOT breadcrumbing. I, CanadianBovine, am Juliet Burke!

fine. 2, possibly 3 townies will be killed tonight.

CB? does anyone else know if he is posting elsewhere?

this goes to VP baltar, i know you asked as well.

i have no other games right now, i was playing in...

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11763

day night mafia, i got lynched day 2 because cop fingered me [correctly] as scum.

Reckoner probably knows me best [better then CDB], last 3 games i've been in have been with him, and CDB died early in...the game he was talking [not remembering the number right now]

MOD: VOTECOUNT PLEASE

to vp, zone, and tyger:

since ill probably be gone pretty soon.

if you guys are town you guys played a worse game then Reckonertown [reference to VP saying reck played a bad game if town]

if you guys are scum i applaud you.

[canadianbovine]

RECKONER: the one you linked, the one i linked, and this current one.

thats 3 games.

[canadianbovine]

psst.

im still

Juliet Burke the Vanilla Townie

[canadianbovine]

psst.

im still

Juliet Burke the Vanilla Townie

psst, you're still lying.

canadiscum would hammer himself right now.

canaditown, however, will not hammer because his lynch will hurt the town.

[canadianbovine]

what fit? I must have missed it.

Start from the very last question I asked him on page 37 (post 924) and read through my interaction with him on page 38, particularly where he claims and OMGUS votes me.

Juls, what are your feelings on that?

Also, I never got any replys, but can everyone who was asked a question state in their next post if they received a pm from the mod after they answered.

I did. Juls did. Reckoner did not. Zone has not been asked a question. I'm unsure (or can't recall) for everyone else.

Like zone said, lets get a comprehensive list going.

i have not been asked a question.

now Juls name claim is interesting....wasnt Jin stuck on the island with Sawyer and Juliet?

And Sayid, and just about everyone else in the show. What is your point? Are you trying to get us using the flavor bit right now?

Even though I had a quick tirade over calling Juls scummy, I rescind all that and now would be comfortable with a curious lynch or canadianbovine lynch...

NOT BASED ON CLAIMS, BUT BY OVERALL PERFORMANCE

.

you dense man by season 5 sayid was off the island.

so sun and jin, and theres implied special role. Lovers?

I’ve not yet gotten a question from the mod.

I am way too tired tonight to look for a reason to list all the reasons why I don’t believe Santos. Maybe over the weekend. Better is to consider who do I think is mafia with him. Possibilities:
1) Juls. Tried way too hard to lynch CB to end the day before Santos needed to explain himself.

2) CB. Why is Santos doing this drawn-out theory-launching *now*?

3) Reckoner. For the defense. I don’t know. I’m less sure as I think about it.

I do not think Zoneace, but the rest I think I need to look closer at. Not voting because not ready to lynch yet.

how does the bolded make me a possible scum partner?

In that same vein, CDB hasn't said shit for a long time and CB seems quite happy to lurk his way through while Santos tries to out everyone's role. This is starting to get very frustrating now.

wahh wahh im not as active as you guys wahhh wahhh i have a life that involves work and school and friends?

1) Your criteria for believing one claim versus another are simply ridiculous. I understand your spacing argument, and it's quite idiotic. The spacing of my PM is different from what both CB and Reckoner wrote. So, what does that prove? Nothing since they are not copying and pasting from the PMs

did anyone ever see what reckoner wrote when he QUOTED his pm and the mod deleted? maybe that could help..

[canadianbovine]

....what the fuck is going on.

[canadianbovine]

ckd and juls are sun and jin..

there was implied that they are related somehow.

usually in a lovers/brothers/ w/e situation, one is town, and one is scum..

CKD is sure that i am vt because our role pms match up, so im going to.

Vote: Juls

[canadianbovine]

**

unvote: vote: juls

ill help you out modd

[canadianbovine]

ckd and juls are sun and jin..

there was implied that they are related somehow.

usually in a lovers/brothers/ w/e situation, one is town, and one is scum..

CKD is sure that i am vt because our role pms match up, so im going to.

Vote: Juls

Wrong. Santos and Juls are Sun and Jin but thanks for playing.

well their goes my solid case.

i had a great time, and i hope i can come back on your next show!

what is your role-ationship with Santos?

[canadianbovine]

CB:
canadianbovine [1072] wrote:
<snip>
EmpTyger wrote:
2) CB. Why is Santos doing this drawn-out theory-launching *now*?
<snip>

how does the bolded make me a possible scum partner?
<snip>

If you and Santos are both mafia, he launches this theatrical theory to stall your lynch. If you’re innocent and Santos is guilty, I don’t see why he doesn’t keep his mouth shut and wait for you to swing.

What’s your explanation for what Santos was doing? (Keeping in mind of course that he’s claimed Sun, not CKD.)

Santos supported my lynch, and i felt that this was after my lynch was still in consideration.

I don't know, maybe he has some big plan and he's hiding lots of information [like you?]

No mod-question for me yet.

ckd and juls are sun and jin..

there was implied that they are related somehow.

usually in a lovers/brothers/ w/e situation, one is town, and one is scum..

CKD is sure that i am vt because our role pms match up, so im going to.

Vote: Juls

This is a terrible post. We've spent virtually this whole thread agreeing that outguessing the mod = bad, and now you not only assume that a) Sun and Jin are lovers in this game, but also that b) one lover in EVERY pair must be scum. And the whole thing is done without any actual evidence against Juls. This is desperate, forced, and futile.

Next post: looking at non-CB cases.

please read the thread CDB.

Well, fuck. If she is claiming Jin that puts me in a tougher spot as there is more stuff in my PM that will clearly make me have to take my vote off of her. Sad

this is screaming that there is extra things in [at least] santos' pm. i said it might of been lovers. they're leaving us in the dark.

Summary

The

classic Siblings roles

are a Goon and a Cop who know each other, with the condition that if one dies, the other commits suicide the following night.

Variations

* The Siblings do not know each other's alignments (in this case they are often called Lovers).

In the above Variation, if the Lover is a member of the Mafia, they are commonly called a Treacherous Lover.

So if they are possibly lovers, and traditionally one lover is scum, why has no one else jumped on this?


i did not receive either of the two questions.

[canadianbovine]

You'd be right if:

1) Santos had explicitly said they were lovers.
2) Juls had shown any sign of reciprocation. (this is a real biggie. There's no sign of Juls showing any similar reaction to the Sun claim.)
3) Lovers could ONLY be 1 scum, 1 town.

Also, why Juls over Santos?

at this point it has become a pressure vote on juls. if roles were based on show, i would be voting Santos, because Sun would be in my mind a mafia usurper [trying to kill ben].

Santos implied there was something. we dont know what that something is.

[canadianbovine]

You'd be right if:

1) Santos had explicitly said they were lovers.
2) Juls had shown any sign of reciprocation. (this is a real biggie. There's no sign of Juls showing any similar reaction to the Sun claim.)
3) Lovers could ONLY be 1 scum, 1 town.

Also, why Juls over Santos?

at this point it has become a pressure vote on juls. if roles were based on show, i would be voting Santos, because Sun would be in my mind a mafia usurper [trying to kill ben].

Santos implied there was something. we dont know what that something is.

What? "Pressure" isn't a good reason. Why is Juls more likely scum to you than Santos?

i've learned from a past game of you and i that repeatedly voting/unvoting people results in trouble for me.

in my incorrect idea, CKD was more town then Juls, so i voted juls.

now, its staying there until i know the relationship between them unless something else pops up.

[canadianbovine]

What? "Pressure" isn't a good reason. Why is Juls more likely scum to you than Santos?

i've learned from a past game of you and i that repeatedly voting/unvoting people results in trouble for me.

in my incorrect idea, CKD was more town then Juls, so i voted juls.

now, its staying there until i know the relationship between them unless something else pops up.

Only if it's done for the wrong reasons.

So are you saying that you actually think Santos is more likely to be scum then Juls?

i think that until santos responds they are both just as likely to be scum.

[canadianbovine]

got a question (finally)..

it was about my feelings for Juliet

don't lynch me, i might become a power role.

[canadianbovine]

are you fucking serious?

que?

[im speaking spanish, so i must be crumbing Hurley.]

[canadianbovine]

are you fucking serious?

que?

[im speaking spanish, so i must be crumbing Hurley.]

I dont like you.

was that your answer to the question?

[canadianbovine]

i think CKD is being stupid with this.

VP may go for your wager, but im not going for that wager, and i dont think the rest of the town will.

you forget tommorow [unless we kill/lynch a scum today] we'll be in lylo. at that point of the game killing another town player would result in loss.

if we lynch VP tommorow, and he's town, so we would lynch you.

2 staright days of gambling the odds with the vig/sk and whether you guys flip = we probably lose regardless of who is lynched first.

Neither of you guys are the answer right now.

im confused. in this wager who is lynched first?

[canadianbovine]

deadline is 9 days, plus questions might of shortened the day. sure you guys want to lynch me? what makes this VT more of a lynch candidate over the other VT, CKD?

[canadianbovine]

correct its 8, and last time questions shortened it to a day before.

[canadianbovine]

goodbye. to all of you.

horrid town play, lots of fingers pointed at the wrong people.

[canadianbovine]

There is scum in VP/Emp/ZA.

congratulations on saying that NOW.

[canadianbovine]

notice in post 1204 Emp never lists why he thinks im scummy. instead he lists why CKD is scummy?

[canadianbovine]

@ CB, if you flip town you have no one to blame but yourself because you played like shit and did absolutely nothing to convince anyone you are town.

pfft not even. You havent believed 3 of the past role claims, and so far 2 of the 3 have been town [as you will see when mod arrives], the last one reckoner, is an unknown.


i answered all questions directly at me but guess what, you pushed for the lynch of a cop yesterday and today, and the reason i was lynch started from how i didnt support lynching a cop??

thats not how mafia is played. YOU ARE SCUM.

[canadianbovine]

/bah

[canadianbovine]

my question was do i set off the bomb.

i chose to not.

i had not checked the thread since i left because i got really busy i only read games i was currently playing in. it appears my decision didnt make a difference.

this game was fun, i never caught up with lost. i have like 4-5 episodes left.