Mini 794 - Notable (Game Over!)

Xylthixlm · Post Post #8 (isolation #0) » Fri May 15, 2009 6:38 pm

/confirm

Xylthixlm · Post Post #16 (isolation #1) » Sat May 16, 2009 5:09 am

Vouch: NabakovNabakov

That post feels scummy.

Xylthixlm · Post Post #20 (isolation #2) » Sat May 16, 2009 5:42 am

Govern-1, someone hammer.

Xylthixlm · Post Post #25 (isolation #3) » Sat May 16, 2009 6:11 am

I'm pretty sure vouching is voting and governing is lynching.

Xylthixlm · Post Post #26 (isolation #4) » Sat May 16, 2009 6:14 am

Also, I think SirT is going by the same thing I am here.

Xylthixlm · Post Post #29 (isolation #5) » Sat May 16, 2009 6:54 am

SirT is totally town here.

Xylthixlm · Post Post #32 (isolation #6) » Sat May 16, 2009 8:35 am

Papa Zito wrote:NabNab = Jester?

If he is a jester, what do you think we should do about it?

Xylthixlm · Post Post #35 (isolation #7) » Sat May 16, 2009 8:51 am

Why are we speculating over jesters again?

Oh yeah, Papa Zito-scum brought it up to try to defend his scumbuddy.

Xylthixlm · Post Post #38 (isolation #8) » Sat May 16, 2009 9:48 am

Sir Tornado wrote:
EmpKing wrote:This game is small enough that I'd be wary of him ending the game when lynched.
That would be bordering on bastard modding. Generally, players are warned if there is a possibility of jester lynch ending the game.

Bordering schmordering.

Xylthixlm · Post Post #40 (isolation #9) » Sat May 16, 2009 10:43 am

Papa Zito: Yes, you're scum.

Xylthixlm · Post Post #42 (isolation #10) » Sat May 16, 2009 11:28 am

Scum

Papa Zito
NabakovNabakov

Town

Xylthixlm
Sir Tornado
Empking

Town by Elimination

Mixologist
Sironigous

Xylthixlm · Post Post #47 (isolation #11) » Sat May 16, 2009 2:48 pm

Sironigous wrote:Hm, G-1 already.

NabNab -

Why should I... no we!... vouch you as governor?
You call yourself a servant - how can you help us?

*facepalm*

Xylthixlm · Post Post #57 (isolation #12) » Sun May 17, 2009 6:16 am

Mixologist sees it too.

Xylthixlm · Post Post #60 (isolation #13) » Sun May 17, 2009 7:28 am

Empking wrote:Iis there still a reason to wait?

No

Xylthixlm · Post Post #67 (isolation #14) » Sun May 17, 2009 8:44 am

Sir Tornado wrote:IMO, we should let NabNab post before hammering.

And give him a chance to unvote? Booooo.

Xylthixlm · Post Post #71 (isolation #15) » Sun May 17, 2009 9:43 am

Totally disbelieve thatasurvivor would self-vote like that. Also, lynchall claimed survivors.

Xylthixlm · Post Post #77 (isolation #16) » Sun May 17, 2009 10:10 am

Sironigous: Hammer.

The problem with survivors is that, when the game reaches lynch or lose, the survivor wins no matter who gets lynched as long as it isn't him, so he'll hammer anyone. That means that the scum can just all vote one person and wait for the survivor to hammer. Effectively survivor is an extra vote for the scum. So lynching the survivor gets rid of one scum vote, gives all the town power roles an extra night to work, and reduces the pool of people to find scum from, all with no penalty to the town.

Xylthixlm · Post Post #85 (isolation #17) » Wed May 20, 2009 9:15 am

Empking and Sironigous are the scum.

Xylthixlm · Post Post #86 (isolation #18) » Wed May 20, 2009 9:19 am

Sironigous wrote:Heh, that's good reasoning - no way that erratic voting could be good for town. ;/
I just wanted clarification with what he said.

Utter confusion.

Vouch: NabNab

To Cooling 2!

Sironigous, please explain your "utter confusion" here.

Xylthixlm · Post Post #89 (isolation #19) » Wed May 20, 2009 3:41 pm

Sironigous wrote:Pretty much it was just the irony... survivor wanting to lynch himself.

Basically goes against play to win. I guess WIFOM got to me. ;/

And you assumed that he was telling the truth about being a survivor, rather than considering that he might be lying scum. Why is that?

Xylthixlm · Post Post #90 (isolation #20) » Wed May 20, 2009 3:42 pm

Mixologist wrote:Xyl: Why did you think Papa was scum yesterday?

He brought up the idea of a jester.

Xylthixlm · Post Post #93 (isolation #21) » Wed May 20, 2009 4:42 pm

Mixologist wrote:Also, I meant to ask you this last post, but you called Empking town in your list D1. What has changed since then to make him scum?

You, me, and SirT all knew something that was in the town PM but apparently not in the other PMs. That leaves two people.

Xylthixlm · Post Post #95 (isolation #22) » Wed May 20, 2009 5:05 pm

Mixologist wrote:How do you get to the assumption that Empking doesn't have that PM? It appears, to me at least, that he sees this too.

I believe that you are town, I am just trying to understand your thought process.

Well, me and SirT were the first to see it. Then Empking jumped on with an "I see it too", and then you said exactly what it was. The weakest proof in there is Empking's.

I guess it's possible that mafia have that in their PM too and only the survivor was left out. But Sironigous is still scum.

Xylthixlm · Post Post #98 (isolation #23) » Thu May 21, 2009 11:34 am

The fact that Sironigous still doesn't seem to get why NabNab was obvious scum is pretty damning here.

Xylthixlm · Post Post #100 (isolation #24) » Fri May 22, 2009 9:16 am

vote: Sironigous

(Yes, by "obvious scum" I meant "obviously not town".)

Xylthixlm · Post Post #111 (isolation #25) » Mon May 25, 2009 9:34 am

Not unvoting.

Xylthixlm · Post Post #113 (isolation #26) » Mon May 25, 2009 9:46 am

I considered the risk of scum quicklych when I first voted.

Xylthixlm · Post Post #117 (isolation #27) » Mon May 25, 2009 8:04 pm

Bah

unvouch

Xylthixlm · Post Post #119 (isolation #28) » Tue May 26, 2009 9:28 am

Siro gets another 24 hours to explain before I revote

Xylthixlm · Post Post #123 (isolation #29) » Tue May 26, 2009 6:45 pm

Sir Tornado wrote:Sironigous' claim is believable, but I am not too sure about the word "case". It actually makes sense, which, paradoxically doesn't make sense. Mass claim anyone?

I'm not sure about the word "offensive".

Mass claim sounds like a good idea.

Xylthixlm · Post Post #131 (isolation #30) » Mon Jun 01, 2009 12:18 pm

Mod: Please prod Mixologist

Moderator Note: Will do.

Xylthixlm · Post Post #138 (isolation #31) » Thu Jun 04, 2009 6:36 am

I feel so lonely.

Xylthixlm · Post Post #143 (isolation #32) » Wed Jun 10, 2009 8:27 am

Prodded. Waiting for Mix's replacement.

Xylthixlm · Post Post #147 (isolation #33) » Wed Jun 10, 2009 9:53 am

That's all? No flavor?

Xylthixlm · Post Post #150 (isolation #34) » Wed Jun 10, 2009 12:17 pm

I am Node, vanilla. I use my vouch during the cooling, which governs (kills) if there's a majority.

Empking is last.

Xylthixlm · Post Post #155 (isolation #35) » Thu Jun 11, 2009 8:06 am

Sironigous wrote:Oh cool I have a meta now. :d

That means I'm getting better known on Mafiascum, sweet!

Hahah.

I notice that you didn't deny the tell here.

Xylthixlm · Post Post #156 (isolation #36) » Thu Jun 11, 2009 8:13 am

Okay, I reread the game and now I remember why I was voting Sironigous in the first place.

Vouch: Sironigous

Xylthixlm · Post Post #160 (isolation #37) » Thu Jun 11, 2009 9:30 pm

He didn't understand the reason for the NabNab lynch, therefore he didn't have govern = kill in his role PM.

Xylthixlm · Post Post #165 (isolation #38) » Fri Jun 12, 2009 4:17 am

Sironigous wrote:
Xylthixlm wrote:He didn't understand the reason for the NabNab lynch, therefore he didn't have govern = kill in his role PM.
Hey cool so I was right about that!

Yeah, that's staring at you in the front page. You don't need that in the PM... even though I have it, sigh.

It

isn't

staring at you in the front page, or we wouldn't have caught NabNab.

Xylthixlm · Post Post #170 (isolation #39) » Fri Jun 12, 2009 11:40 am

Sajin: I'm definitely leaning Empking, but I will take a hard look tomorrow. SirT is basically clear. Part of it might depend on whether Siro comes up mafia, SK, or something else.

I don't believe tracker + bodyguard + doctor either.

Xylthixlm · Post Post #182 (isolation #40) » Mon Jun 15, 2009 3:36 pm

I hate it when that happens.

Xylthixlm · Post Post #191 (isolation #41) » Sun Jun 21, 2009 7:19 am

You mean "vouch" not "vote". No hammer anyways.

I think it's Empking, but I'm not 100% certain. Empking, can you explain how Mixologist/Sajin could have known to post this?

Mixologist wrote:Heh. You know, I think we might have caught scum page one. After re-reading the thread and my PM, I'm all for a NabNab lynch at this point. Won't vouch just yet as we still have plenty of time to catch the other one

Xylthixlm · Post Post #193 (isolation #42) » Sun Jun 21, 2009 11:34 am

Well then.

Vouch: Empking

Xylthixlm · Post Post #195 (isolation #43) » Sun Jun 21, 2009 2:17 pm

From that comment I'm guessing you're not scum, so yes. We'll know when the mod gets here.

Xylthixlm · Post Post #200 (isolation #44) » Mon Jun 22, 2009 8:49 am

I took a chance on guessing that the townies also had "Governed and killed" in their role PMs, so I could make it look like I was using townie-role-PM info to catch scum. It was extremely lucky that

both

the other nontown players managed to make it seem like their role PMs didn't include it.

Xylthixlm · Post Post #202 (isolation #45) » Mon Jun 22, 2009 8:55 am

skitzer wrote:I'm not quite sure the setup was unbalanced, I just think I didn't expect the survivor to be so revealing and get lynched Cooling 1.

The setup was quite unbalanced against the town. With both the SK and the mafia immune to crosskills, there was almost no way for the town to recover from even a single mislynch.

Xylthixlm · Post Post #206 (isolation #46) » Mon Jun 22, 2009 9:12 am

Sajin wrote:The town could all be masons(and thus know the survivor and the scum and still lose due to 2 deaths a night.

Indeed.

Xylthixlm · Post Post #208 (isolation #47) » Mon Jun 22, 2009 11:45 am

Sironigous wrote:Hum interesting.

SIGH THAT'S WHAT YOU MEANT.

o_o

See, you were totally confused because you were scum and

did

have "Governed and killed" in your role PM, so you assumed that NabNab did too, so you thought that I must be talking about something else. Right?

Xylthixlm · Post Post #212 (isolation #48) » Tue Jun 23, 2009 6:18 am

Apparently skitzer messed up my role PM (it said "Manage" instead of "Respond") and decided to leave it.