Mini 167 - Les Miserables Mafia. Game over!

[vikingfan]

Hey everyone!

Speaking toward Javert, I always tend toward the thinking: "Never try to outguess the mod."

Random vote MeMe

[vikingfan]

Same as LoudmouthLee.

[vikingfan]

I tend to think that we have one killing group-having two could make for a very quick game, though I suppose that could be Aelyn's intention. Still, for now, I'm buying the one killing group.

As for how people are gotten rid of, I read that opening post to be something like the town booting a player to be different than a mafia's death, not to mention a vig. I'm not sure it's suspicious enough to mull over-Aelyn could have put it in to mess with us.

[vikingfan]

I dunno-I still lean towards the thinking of not overguessing. But maybe that's just me.

As far as roles, with the possible exception of people like the Thenardiers, the mafia could be anyone-good characters being the mafia is not uncommon.

[vikingfan]

Hm-I could've sworn I posted last night, but for some reason it didn't go through. Hmm..

Anyway, I'm here now. In any case, I'll switch my vote at the end of this post, though I can go elsewhere if I see need.

I'm thinking at this point in time, we probably just need to start bandwagoning someone and get a roleclaim-that's what usually happens day 1. So since we're looking at this route, I'll go with the one who seems to be most suspicious(at least when I look at the posts).

unvote MeMe

vote EmpTyger

[vikingfan]

Well, the reason why I haven't been voting is because I've voiced my opinion on the current discussion (don't outguess the mod) and nothing else besides that is happening.

Vote count?

[vikingfan]

Strange. I've posted here once each the last 2 days and neither of my posts are showing up-Hmmmm....maybe this post will make them appear.

Anyway, I'm here(assuming this post actually shows up), but I still stick with not outguessing the mod. I'm inclined to believe LML for now, though i haven't played with him before. So far, I'm still happy with my vote on EmpTyger, though I can go elsewhere if persuaded.

As far as bandwagoning me, I'm fine with it, but I can tell you right now that you're barking up the wrong tree-at least 2 people can verify me.

[vikingfan]

Well, I am indeed part of a mason group. My role is Marius. I am a mason with Enjolras(I know his name but I'll keep it for now in case people here don't want too many innocents revealed). We can talk together at night. In addition to this, I have fallen in love with Cosette but can't find her. As a result, I can send either myself or Eponine to search for her. Once I find her, I will receive more info.

Any questions?

[vikingfan]

Oh, and Enjolras knows who I am and can easily verify me and vice versa.

[vikingfan]

I don't know what character has her, but my PM states quite clearly she's in the game.

[vikingfan]

Well, thank you, LML.

I don't know who Eponine is, but I can send her to look for Cosette-that's the way my PM describes it. I don't know how it works either.

As for recruiting, that's a different thing altogether, and has to do with Changling Bob. I have no ability to recruit whatsoever. All I can do is talk with Changling Bob at night and search for Cosette. That's it.

As far as alignment, the PM is quite clear that I win with the town.

[vikingfan]

Lord-masons are very common in mafia games-just ask mathcam, MeMe, or any one of several other experienced scum players.

As for my alignment, I have already stated that I am pro-town.

[vikingfan]

I'm pretty confused about what I'm being asked to weigh-in on.

LK was stating that he was confused about the whole mason thing since he hasn't seen it before and he considered a masonry suspicious.

[vikingfan]

So is it worthwhile trying to recruit LML as Cosette tonight? Or is LML simply saying that because he has an anti-town role that will kill the one recruiting?

Hmmm....

[vikingfan]

Maybe I phrased my question wrong. Changlingbob recruits. I only search for Cosette. Two totally different abilities for two totally different masons.

[vikingfan]

Unvote

and

Vote LML

at least until he starts posting and gives a coherent reason why he's been posting elsewhere and not here.

[vikingfan]

I have no doubt that Cosette exists. Here's why at this point tn time, I'm voting LML.

A)scummish behavior already noted,
B)LML is pretty far from being lynched,
C)the theory of us being pro-town with anti-town abilities has a chance to be true, and as such, I don't know what would happen if I located Cosette,

and most importantly, D)I'm not sure that LML is really Cosette. He claimed unprompted and the behavior is bad. If he's not Cosette, then obviously someone else is and he's scum trying to get by with a claim. For those wondering why there is no counterclaim, I think of it like a doc-why counterclaim day 1 and out yourself?

E)there is a possibility, following the line of C), that negative things could result from finding Cosette. It would counteract the power of the masons. Or possibly LML has a role that kills the recruiter if recruited.

All that being said, I'm still leaning toward LML as being Cosette but I'm not sure as to the consequences of that result. Hence why I'm wondering if it's best to recruit Cosette.

[vikingfan]

Oops, that should be 'search for' instead of 'recruit'.

[vikingfan]

Unvote LML

Though that ability seems just a little too powerful. I'm going to leave LML alone for now and search for her tonight and then report back tomorrow.

So now we've got 2 masons and a person that's unnightkillable. That seems way too powerful for a 9-man game. If all this is true, I'm guessing we're probably missing either a cop or a doc.

[vikingfan]

I'll be gone for the weekend starting sometime Friday afternoon until sometime Sunday night.

[vikingfan]

I'll go with the EmpTyger route as well.

Vote EmpTyger

[vikingfan]

Oops,

Unvote

Vote EmpTyger

[vikingfan]

Well, I'm back.

As for why I'm voting you, it's pretty much all the points already made. Plus, why the heck are you FIRST claiming Thenardier, and then claiming Valjean? Why not just make one claim?

I'm not clear on MeMe either-but she can live for another day. If, however, you are scum, then that indicates to me that she's semi-clear-in a game this small, it's not likely that someone would deliberately sacrifice a mafia partner.

[vikingfan]

Why did I unvote? Easy-I forgot to unvote my previous person I was voting for. Simple as that.

I'm still not buying the whole 'joke thing'. Plus, having a doc seems ridiculously strong for the town.

I just send Eponine.

[vikingfan]

My vote also stays.

When is the deadline, BTW?

[vikingfan]

So if Valjean and Javert were left after lynching Mde. Thenardier, Valjean would have lost? Hmmm....

Good game all, though I was suspicious of gootentag first- I simply wasn't buying the claim, though goot set it up nicely from the start.