Mini 751: Suzumiya Haruhi Mafia (OVER)

[malthusis]

FoS'es to lynch..... interesting. Let's start this by

Fos: Forbiddanlight

for looking like a goodie two-shoes in tLoZ mafia and making the town lose!

[malthusis]

I did a quick look on wikipedia and one of the novels has 2 endings, if I'm not mistaken.

[malthusis]

Anybody objecting me hammering him?

[malthusis]

Since this isn't the hammer I guess I can do this.

UnFos, FoS Seraphim

[malthusis]

Another point for Seraphim being lynched today is the fact that there may be more obvious people we need to lynch later on and the fact about that we don't need a mis-lynch later in the game when it could hurt us more. Now that I think about it, if you were fine until day 4, why couldn't you just wait to get nightkilled or maybe revealed it day 3 if you didn't? However, now that you've revealed, a bit of WIFOM does come into play, so I agree that we should lynch you today after discussions.Also, a bit weird that panzerjager and DGB come out of nowhere to vote without saying anything at all? (and not saying anything at all right now)

[malthusis]

@veerus: I practically saw 5 people before me vote Seraphim (most without any objections at all) so everyone made it seem like it was going to happen anyways. I waited to see if anyone had any objections (Percy did). If I really wanted to maliciously hammer him, why would I wait to do it?

[malthusis]

ortolan is town.

forbiddanlight is scum. We'll lynch her tomorrow.

Let's finish off Seraphim and get our goodies before the scum grabs it from our hands.

Are you saying you assumptions just based on how much they oppose/like the Seraphim lynch, or do you have any other reasons at all? And to ortolan: If you haven't realized it by now, you haven't hammered Seraphim.

[malthusis]

I'm really hoping that this is a planned part of her PM (which I personally think it is). If it isn't, we are really, really screwed right now.

[malthusis]

Current Deadline: March 10, 2009 at ~6:00 CST (GMT -6)
First Mod Deadline Review: March 3, 2009 at ~6:00 P.M. CST (GMT -6)

I think this may be what he's talking about. I hope it isn't

... Oops... fixing that... - Tar

[malthusis]

I'm starting realize how lucky we are for roffman's ability that will effectively block all the mafia kills on one of these days, nearly giving us a free lynch. I'm going to do a real analysing post (or try to) hopefully later today.

[malthusis]

@malthusis: Why did you not address the arguments that I outlined?

Which argument are you talking about?

[malthusis]

I have a few extra minutes right now to put in a quick analysis on panzer's scummy post

Ortolan and Zwet are scum. I already went into why Orto is scum. Zwet is scummy because of afatchic who was incredibly scummy before she left. I answered this.

Percy you're voting me for not answering but I clearly answered the question before hand. and you're commenting on me not reading when you not realizing that the answer was clearly put out there.

FoS:Percy

Vote:Ortolan

Possible distancing here.

I am still sorta of amazed that you still haven't gotten that Fos'es count as votes and votes count as Fos'es yet even when zwet reminded you. Percy voted for zwet, not you. Why do you still not get the point after 2 game days?

Vote Panzerjager

[malthusis]

Why is there a mirror on the wall?

Why do you think there is? It's probably just flavor text.

[malthusis]

Ok, I'm tired an I did a quick skim only to get offended.. I obviously know that votes and foses are essentially the same. As i fosed Zwet and voted orto essentially votting for two people. I find it very narrowminded of you to overlook this and vote me for essentially no reason.

Is this addressed to me?

[malthusis]

Ok, I'm tired an I did a quick skim only to get offended.. I obviously know that votes and foses are essentially the same. As i fosed Zwet and voted orto essentially votting for two people. I find it very narrowminded of you to overlook this and vote me for essentially no reason.

Okay let me explain this better for you: Fos'es are votes. Votes are fos'es. You did not Vote two people, you only voted orto. As well, I did not vote you in the first place, I simply Vote Fos'ed you. I see no reason for you to complain at me. (I hope this explanation is good enough).

[malthusis]

vote: zwets, yet again.

Ahem..... *cough* FoS *cough*

Ok, Clearly you're the one not understanding. You Voted me. Both Votes and FoS can lynch people. Essentialy they are both Votes. So seriously, read the rules dude.

What makes you think the rule about votes to lynch wasn't overriden? Especially since a Dreaming God has been RFG'ed?

It's FoSes to lynch and ONLY FoS'es to lynch, people.

Also, I need to check my times. - Tar

You get what I'm trying to say now Panzer?

Also Re

Fos:zwet

(I wondering who's doing the vote resets. It could possibly be like the repeating summer story (sorry, forgot name) except with votes).

Prodding ortolan. First vote count reset occurred at the time of the First Mod Deadline Review (exactly one week after the beginning of Day 2, not accounting for mod error). Second vote count reset occurred at the time of the Second Mod Deadline Review (exactly two weeks after the beginning of Day 2). - Tar

[malthusis]

EBWOP:

MIB: Could you prod ortolan as well as could you tell me when the first vote reset happened?

[malthusis]

Go ahead, but I don't think it will change the situation you're in right now much.

[malthusis]

Am I hallucinating, or did veerus hammer? Let me just count.....
Panzerjager
Malthusis
Percy
Budja
Veerus

That should be a hammer then.

[malthusis]

EBWOP:

MIB: I think we have a lynch.

[malthusis]

Your RFG method is "disappeared".

Is it me or have our worst fears been confirmed?

forbiddanlight, Haruhi Suzumiya, Townie Dreaming God,

Disappeared

Day 1

[malthusis]

What I'm about to say might be some WIFOM, but no matter how good Harhui's role may be, there is no way you could make a 7:2:2:1 setup and be balanced, and I know that Tar's a great mod and wouldn't make a wrecked setup (at least not this blantly). 4 mafia or 2 mafia, there's practically no way you(Panzer) and Budja are not a scumteam from what you've said so far.

Fos: Budja

[malthusis]

*yawns after waiting 24 hours for veerus to post anything*

[malthusis]

heh sorry.. today maybe almost possibly.. i'm about to go on vacation in a few days so it's a little hectic.. i'll def post before i go otherwise you can lynch me for obvscummery

Sorry to pester you, but you do realize that you're the main the reason this game has slowed to crawl, right? Please post soon.

[malthusis]

Oh, and if anyone has noticed....

Votes required to lynch: 3

[malthusis]

Alpha mafia has actually failed to kill

That is such BS it isn't even funny.

Welcome to Suzumiya Haruhi Mafia, Budja. You are Koizumi Itsuki, and you have been tasked by a mysterious organization with killing everyone else on this island... with a little help, of course.

You are an

Alpha Mafia Cop

You have the following special abilities:

Factional Abilities:

[REDACTED]

Passive Abilities:
Stealth Mode - Each day, if you are not using any active abilities and are not making the Alpha Mafia kill, you are immune to the first normal killing action that would target you that day.

Active Abilities:

Investigate - Each twilight, you may target a player. You will learn your target's alignment.

Your kill method is "poisoned".

8) roffman, Sasaki, Townie Global Roleblocker, Poisoned Day 1

Its so easy to see you' re lying Panzer, so I'm just going to go ahead and

Vote Panzer

Do you guys want me to claim?

[malthusis]

Well, I was about to claim before I got interrupted by the lynch, so I'll do it right now I guess.

I'm Kyon's Sister. I am untargetable at night. Also, I have to pick one of the players in the game every night for a mysterious power that I don't know about.

We must have been unbelievably lucky for that kill not going through, or else it would have been game over for us. (Thank you FL, or whoever did it.) I agree we should lynch Percy, but I'd like to see what new people have to say first.

[malthusis]

Use it on me.

You aren't technically in the game, so I don't think powers will work on you (plus, we already know you're town anyways). I think I'll use it on Kyon(ToD) at this night.

Getting back to lynching, I think we should just lynch Percy and be done with it and hope something good happens tonight.

[malthusis]

Mod: I am sorry, but I will have to replaced Apr.10

I really want this game to pick up again, so why don't we just restate who are #1 lynch target right now?

I want to lynch Percy since he's obviously scum from what he's said. Even though this will put him at L-1, I feel safe enough to

Vote: Percy

Mod: could you also prod Seraphim?

[malthusis]

Uh...

did you ignore my post?

[malthusis]

EBWOP:

Talking to mod.

I'll deal with replacing you when it reaches April 10 or when you ask for immediate replacement, whichever comes first. - Tar

[malthusis]

Major simul-post

[malthusis]

Mod: when I said you ignored my post, I was also talking about my vote.

I could have sworn I had made sure to tally your vote in the count... apparently not. Fixed. - Tar

[malthusis]

LOL

And, sorry to be preachy (I don't want to get replaced), but Seraphim, have you made your decision yet?

[malthusis]

I am not pleased that everyone wants to lynch Percy. Hardcore bussage may be occurring which worries me. Let's see what happens in regards to this...Tar couldn't have made it this easy.

QFT.

[malthusis]

I am not pleased that everyone wants to lynch Percy. Hardcore bussage may be occurring which worries me. Let's see what happens in regards to this...Tar couldn't have made it this easy.

What happened to this?

The hell?

Thanks for waiting.

Percy is Beta scum. I have this confirmed from several sources.

Way to lose the game for town, whoever is the last town player.

[malthusis]

Vote: Trumpet of Doom

Reason?

[malthusis]

ToD's willingness to kill Percy over a quick hammer. I looked back and quickly realized that my informants may be wrong. Percy, especially lately, does not actually read scum to me. I need to reread but I'm fairly sure that ToD is the scumbag we're looking for.

Plus, I trust DGB.

I'd be willing to vote ToD if you give me a bit more structure to your case. By the way, who told you Percy is scum and why are you doubting them?

[malthusis]

Any ideas on what's happenned to the mafia kills guys?

[malthusis]

Tar: I think we may need replace veerus considering that he isn't going to be back for a while yet and it's in the endgame.

He comes back on April 6. As of right now, it's April 3. That's not enough time to warrant replacement. I'll give him a special prod ("if you don't post in the thread by the end of April 6, you get replaced"), though. - Tar

[malthusis]

N1: Roffman
N2: DGB
N3: Panzer
N4: Seraphim (Side note: somehow got a 'phase counter', any comments on this Seraphim?)
N5:ToD

(Note about choices: I tried to check every possible thing my power could do, vig,resurrect, bring back people, etc. I'd be convinced by now that this does nothing, but I'm wondering what that phase counter does).

[malthusis]

@Seraphim: Roffman's endure only counts on himself. As well as that, me and ToD have already practically fullclaimed, veerus is the only one who hasn't.

[malthusis]

@Seraphim:

Here is my claim copied and pasted from previous.

Well, I was about to claim before I got interrupted by the lynch, so I'll do it right now I guess.

I'm Kyon's Sister. I am untargetable at night. Also, I have to pick one of the players in the game every night for a mysterious power that I don't know about.

and ToD's, for reference.

Claim: I am Kyon, Presumably Vanilla Townie. As far as I know, I don't do anything (yet. I'd guess that if malthusis isn't lying, he should target me and see what happens.), and I haven't tried to use any ability I might have on anyone.

[malthusis]

@ToD: What you said at least clears up what happened to the mafia kills. I'm starting to think that veerus is probably last scum.

If on Day 3, there really were 4 scum out (which by all means there practically was) that means that only 1 person out of the group of 5 wasn't scum.

The group of 5 was: (for reference)

Panzer (scum)
Budja (scum)
Percy (scum)
Me
Veerus

Obviously I don't think I'm scum, and I'm starting to have a hunch veerus is the last scum after all. Therefore I will

Vote: Veerus

[malthusis]

*anxiously waits for people other then DGB to talk*

[malthusis]

*whistles*

[malthusis]

I can see how your theory may work, but don't forget we still have to lynch the scum, and considering we lynch ToD (veerus's thought) if veerus is scum he can still kill us (Even though I think he's scum, I still believe his claim). In fact, we can lynch anybody but him and hr can still control his phase in/out stance and take us out. Therefore I still believe lynching veerus is the right thing to do.

[malthusis]

simul-post

Look at post #425 on this page.

[malthusis]

It makes sense that TOD tried to kill you yesterday since you were the only truly confirmed town and failed due to phasing. At least that's my theory.. what's yours?

That's a null tell and total BS. It wouldn't have mattered phase or not, I still wouldn't have been killed. You did see my major theory that seriously implied you, right?

I'm starting to think that veerus is probably last scum.

If on Day 3, there really were 4 scum out (which by all means there practically was) that means that only 1 person out of the group of 5 wasn't scum.

The group of 5 was: (for reference)

Panzer (scum)
Budja (scum)
Percy (scum)
Me
Veerus

Obviously I don't think I'm scum, and I'm starting to have a hunch veerus is the last scum after all. Therefore I will Vote: Veerus

Does this show you why I suspect you?

[malthusis]

I think I have an idea to help unclutter this mess, I think I may know what my special ability. I think I redirect things off myself to hit other people! It fits with all my night actions, Scum actually hit me day 1, (reflected to hit roffman) my day 2 and 3 did nothing, Day 4 I reflected your ability to hit ToD and Day 5 ToD took the 2nd phase counter, making him neutral. The only problem is(and it is a big one), how the hell did I get a phase counter? I'll

Unvote

for now.

[malthusis]

If that's true, that means practically the only one who could be scum is ToD, because there's no way you could have done the kills. I'll

Vote: ToD

now.

Note: I'm leaving in two days. If we somehow move to another day, I'll have to be replaced.

[malthusis]

I feel a bit shafted for only having 1 (1!!) kill go through for us, and the fact that if Percy had taken the kill right after we lynched Panzer (or some time around there) we would have won. However, it was a great game and felt I played extremely well (until everything crumbled on the last day).