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God you people are nuts. I love you all.
Elvis obvious joke comments made if you read the queue line at all.
DGB's weird vote on malth saying EK should know. Well how about sharing with the rest of the class.
Skanders: Welcome to the chaos. Your reaction is interesting. So interesting that if volk does flip scum I would vote you next.
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The above is a weird reaction to BW votes. I see people who panic with votes that are being voted against but not something like this. It's like a protective action on someone for no reason.Skander wrote:What is the scum reaction that Volkan made in his first post? I've read it over 3 times and I can't see it.
And is everyone voting for Volkan voting seriously?
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It's frowned on later in the day sort of speak, but I can't tell you the number of times I see this as a start of day to get reactions and talks going quicker.Skander wrote:
Well that would explain it. In the site I play on (MTGSalvation) random BW's are heavily frowned upon. I rarely see anyone get to closer than L-4 or L-3 without someone commenting about a wagon in the random stage and pointing fingers.farside22 wrote:
The above is a weird reaction to BW votes. I see people who panic with votes that are being voted against but not something like this. It's like a protective action on someone for no reason.Skander wrote:What is the scum reaction that Volkan made in his first post? I've read it over 3 times and I can't see it.
And is everyone voting for Volkan voting seriously?
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I don't know. His reasoning when asked seemed sound to me, but it's something I would keep an eye on.elvis_knits wrote:
Do you think skander is newb scum? (with vollkan buddy?)farside22 wrote:@EK: I have this thing about reading newbs too well sometimes. :SSarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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Why didn't you say this when you first posted?Albert B. Rampage wrote:
Can I claim Miller? I claimelvis_knits wrote:I AM SCUM. THE OTHER SCUM MIGHT WAS WELL CLAIM NOW SO WE CAN COORDINATE ACTIONS AND WIN. THIS IS THE ONLY WAY TO WIN IF YOU ARE SCUM. CLAIM NOW.Miller. I am not bulletproof so please refrain from shooting me on the spot. I will not name anyone so foolish and reckless as to shoot unprovoked, but you know who you are. I'm looking at you DGB. And you too, volkan. Although we are friends now, there is no telling if you still secretly want revenge for Peril in Panama.Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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I'm done with my interrogation and satisfied to the point that I have exhausted all my questions for you.Albert B. Rampage wrote:
Well I am good too, farside.farside22 wrote:Alright I'm good then.Or is that not what you meant?What do you mean by you are 'good'? Are my answers to your interrogation satisfactory to the point that you have exhausted all your questions for me? Or should we take it in the sense that you will make up your mind once more players have weighed in on the claim, so you can better situate where you stand vis-a-vis me? Please be specific.
Also I have had the mind to claim miller as scum and it would surprise me if you had thought abou tthis in your time her on MS.
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Yes. I haven't seen a game with a fake miller claim except 1. You are saying 80% are fake. Out of all the games I played with a miller it is more like 90% are town.DrippingGoofball wrote:
Are you serious? You need to be shown games with fake miller claims?farside22 wrote:@DGB: Every game thus far except 1 all miller claims have been town. Can you link games where millers are scum?Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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I looked at 703 and Nat wasn't in that game.DrippingGoofball wrote:
Mini 703 (ongoing), so I'm naming it, but no discussion please. Natirasha claimed miller.farside22 wrote:Yes. I haven't seen a game with a fake miller claim except 1. You are saying 80% are fake. Out of all the games I played with a miller it is more like 90% are town.Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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DrippingGoofball wrote:Sorry, that's 708, not 703.
Also, http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 171#776171 skitzer fakeclaimed miller
Alright 2 things reading that. 1 skitzer didn't claim right away. 2 he fake claimed vanilla then switched to miller. So that isn't even close to a good claim. ABR is claiming at the start of the day which is stated that millers should claim at the beginning of the day.
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skitzer didn't claim out the gate. I will have to persue Adel's game a bit.DrippingGoofball wrote:
708.farside22 wrote:Do you know of anyone scum before who claimed at the start of the day before?
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Depends when the person claimed and how they answer questions under pressure.Skander wrote:@ Korts and farside: IN your opinons when you see someone claim miller Day 1 does that make them more or less likely to be scum than a random player who has not claimed miller (or does it not change anything)?Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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DGB claimed that 80% of miller claims were scum I wanted proff. I dont' want to see her use this as a reason for voting someone without something valid as a future actions or reason.charter wrote:
... I asked why you were questioning about games with millers in them. It had nothing to do with the fact that ABR claimed miller. So, what was the point of all the questioning games with millers in them?farside22 wrote:I asked ABR someone questions because he didn't claim on his first post and wanted to know more about why he claimed when he did and why he didn't claim in his first post.
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Someone claiming miller at L-1 would be most likely scum in my opinion. Someone who claims miller late in the day or the next day I would put in scum category.Skander wrote:Farside: Can you answer the question I asked you before? What timing of the miller claiming implies town and what timing implies scum?
Where is Volkan?
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No I'm just giving examples of who I would think is scum and the timing of the claim is mostly likely scum.DrippingGoofball wrote:
Why? What advantage is there for scum to claim MILLER, of all things, at minus 1? I'd really like yo know how this works. Are you suggesting that the scum wants to out the real miller before dying???? Or the town to back off such an awesome power role? What am I missing?farside22 wrote:Someone claiming miller at L-1 would be most likely scum in my opinion.Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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I love bussing. Never will deny that but even I'm not stupid enough as scum to lynch a buddy day 1 with nothing behind it. I wanted to see a reaction from Volkan plus if comment was sarcastic. I'm curious to know why he is being sarcastic about being lynched. If he doesn't care or if he is scum.DrippingGoofball wrote:
BINGO. It's very very very sketchy.elvis_knits wrote:Korts was all about the vollkan wagon until now. I don't see what could possibly have changed his mind about vollkan.
farside put vollkan and minus one, and I know she's one that loves to bus. Not only that, but she put vollkan at minus 1 with no explanation, she was babbling about ABR: "I asked ABR someone questions because he didn't claim on his first post and wanted to know more about why he claimed when he did and why he didn't claim in his first post. "Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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DGB are you telling me people don't ask for claims at L-1? I'm just saying if somoene was at L-1 and was asked to claim and claimed miller I would beat it was scum. I can't imagine a town person being that dumb.DrippingGoofball wrote:@ farside:
PLEASE answer this.DrippingGoofball wrote:Why would a scum, run up to L-1, claim miller. Please list the advantages for said scum to claim miller.
Are you kidding? If someone hammered without (1) waiting for a claim (2) having a good reason. I would be looking at that person tomorrow for lynch. Great way to catch scum. I doubt in this group there is dumb town or dumb scum, however.DrippingGoofball wrote:
What was your purpose in putting him at minus one? Weren't you afraid he might be 'accidentally hammered?'farside22 wrote:I love bussing. Never will deny that but even I'm not stupid enough as scum to lynch a buddy day 1 with nothing behind it. I wanted to see a reaction from Volkan plus if comment was sarcastic. I'm curious to know why he is being sarcastic about being lynched. If he doesn't care or if he is scum.Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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I will rephrase.farside22 wrote: DGB are you telling me people don't ask for claims at L-1? I'm just saying if somoene was at L-1 and was asked to claim and claimed miller I would beat it was scum. I can't imagine a town person being that dumb.
What are the benefits for scum to claim Miller when at L-1?
*** People! Help me! Is that not a simple question? Why is it that I can't get farside to understand this simple question??? Can someone else try to ask it differently or something? I can't get through.***
What if the hammer came from a townie that didn't realize there was a wagon at L-1 on page 5?DrippingGoofball wrote:Are you kidding? If someone hammered without (1) waiting for a claim (2) having a good reason. I would be looking at that person tomorrow for lynch. Great way to catch scum. I doubt in this group there is dumb town or dumb scum, however.There is no bennifit!! Why do you act like I was saying someone would do it. I'm saying examples of who I would think is scum when Skander asked me about timing of claims!! GEEZ!
With this group are you kidding? Seriously? EVERYONE FUCKING KNOWS HE IS AT L-1. IF THEY HAMMER THEY ARE SCUM.
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I don't either. I have player commenting about the whole miller claim with questions and comment and I have another talking to be about a question a player asked me about what timing would I consider somoene scum who claimed miller. I feel like I'm being completely misread.Albert B. Rampage wrote:I don't get your line of thinking either ^^^Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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Did you even read the link you gave me. Perfect example of dumb scum. He claims vanilla and then claims miller when pressured. No it doesn't out anyone. I'm saying I would bet someone was scum if they did that because no town person would do that in their right mind.DrippingGoofball wrote:
She says that if a player claimed miller at lynch minus one, she would bet that the player is scum.Albert B. Rampage wrote:I don't get your line of thinking either ^^^
Why would a cornered scum, at L-1, claim miller???
A cornered scum might claim miller after an infavorable investigation. But a scum wagonned to lynch minus 1 (no investigation) would be really stupid to claim miller, no?
Would that stop the lynch? No.
Would the scum out 'the real miller'? That is absurd, the scum wants to out useful power roles if they're going to go down, or, if not counterclaimed, appropriate the power role for themselves.
If a player claimed miller at L-1, they'd be hammered in the next post. I can't imagine why scum (or town, for that matter) would want to do that.
It would surprise me to see someone fumble when pressured. It happens all the time. Why are you acting like it's a big deal. It was a comment to a question. Why are you acting like it a big tado or something?
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That should say wouldn't with the surprise.DrippingGoofball wrote:
If it happens all the time, why would it surprise you?farside22 wrote:It would surprise me to see someone fumble when pressured. It happens all the time.
Are you, by any chance, fumbling under pressure?
No. I think you are grasping at straws.
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If you stopped asking a misleading question I would answer it properly. As it was when you asked it looked to me like you were implying something I said had anything to do with anything. I answered a question about who I would suspect as scum with a miller claim based on time. That was the question I answered and did not understand why you found this a subject in which answering what scum gain by doing so is really something that needs any focus in my book. One had nothing to do with the other except both talked about miller vs scum claim.DrippingGoofball wrote:
That's because you're not understanding/answering the question. If you had answered it the first time I asked, you would have spared everyone the tiresome twenty follow up questions.farside22 wrote:Plus I feel you are misrepresting the initail conversation and blowing out of poportion for no real good reason I can find thus far.Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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It wasn't meant to be a ? it was meant to be a ! I was busy during the weekend and did a quick post before taking off. Sorry about that.Korts wrote:unvote, vote: ABR
Why the ORLY? If you are asking for rofl's reasons, why follow his vote?farside22 wrote:
ORLY?roflcopter wrote:ok guys, abr is lying about his roleclaim, time for a lynch
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This just inDrippingGoofball wrote:==========
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We interrupt this Mafia game for breaking news. DrippingGoofball has just announced, in a press conference, that she will continue to demand that claimed millers be killed, no matter when they claim.
Now back to your regularly programmed game.
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@Skanders: I did what I felt was best with ABR's "claim" I questioned him till I felt satisfied with his answers. The reason I question DBG about scum claiming miller is because I have yet (till now) see scum fake claim miller day 1 as ABR did.
Notes for ABR's lynched. Didn't care for neko's comment about ABR and quick come to his defense. Don't like Carn Carn thus far. Quiet and hammers ABR. I doubt he is reading the game I know, I know people (dgb) were saying lets hammer but I always read what's going on before I hammer.
I would say neko and carn are my top two scum suspects based on ABR's lynch.
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Thanks. I'm never sure which way to think about it. Sometimes I see one point and sometimes I see the other. I personally think it depends on the player. What I really need is some spyglasses to get into someone's head.DrippingGoofball wrote:
A fakeclaiming miller puts himself in a very awkward position, he can't really defend a buddy, since his own credibility is nebulous at best. WIFOM I know, but I think it's more likely for ABR to strive to get 'town cred' for defending vollkan if vollkan is lynched and flips town, and ABR, as a fake claiming miller, needed all the town cred he could get. That's why I knocked one scumpoint OFF vollkan for ABR buddying up to him.farside22 wrote:Question doesn't ABR defending volkan seem like scum trying to save his scum partner or do you look at it as more scum trying to appear town?
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neko is on vacation till the 14th.Skander wrote:
I thought we were waiting for a claim, or do people not claim at L-2 here?charter wrote:Are we waiting for anything in particular? I don't understand why neko isn't lynched yet.
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I agree with the above ^. We can camouflage the person who replaces Neko and just call them neko2.DrippingGoofball wrote:Mod: can neko be temporarily replaced?We need a claim, we can't hold off lynching the scummiest candidate for VLA reasons, in a speed game.Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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Found his thoughts on ABR
I really dont' see how jailing a claimed miller was the right move reading this.neko2086 wrote:Hm. I don't know how ABR's claim can be anything more than a null-tell. This discussion is getting real WIFOMy real fast.
ABR, now that you've made your entrance, could you share some thoughts on who you think is scum?
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He did say yet. Once again I have a reason to ask.DrippingGoofball wrote:
There are no nights. Yesterday, he jailed ABR. And he said that he hasn't submitted today's choice.farside22 wrote:I found this DGB and there is a reason I'm asking.neko2086 wrote:rofl, no. I don't think the morning phase is over yet anyway.Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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All I get from copter was this:
I took this statement to mean he looked into ABR that night. Interesting enough if he see's ABR doesn't that mean that Neko didn't lock him up?roflcopter wrote:ok guys, abr is lying about his roleclaim, time for a lynch
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Okay DGB is correct:
http://www.mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Reporter
For those curious. If copter saw that ABR wasn't home then it's clear he wasn't blocked.
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Makes sense can't see otherwise.
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Simply put reading the game and all. ABR was scum yes. rofl outted him.neko2086 wrote:Ugh. Now I'm really confused. I did jail ABR, and early on too. That's why I didn't believe rofl right away, but then the thing about ABR talking to the mod was pointed out, and I thought that's what rofl was referring to...
rofl must have checked out abr before I imprisoned him, or I was roleblocked.
Haven't jailed anybody yet. Again, didn't jail rofl as he didn't look like an obvious target. Why would I think he's an obvious target when I jailed ABR?
Ergo rolf looks so town it makes my teeth hurt. Day 2 you had an action and you chose not to use it? Are you really serious?
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It's possible looking at DGB's quote that it would explain the action of why rolf. A couple of issues I have at this moment. I feel 2 people are scum with a possible 3rd at this point
Korts/ tajo (very high)
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Volkan stated the following:I'd forgotten all about Panama...until now :Evil:
On the other hand, I am firmly of the view that Millers should claim as early as possible (and this is early enough).
Easily believes without question the miller claim.
charter found the discussion unncecessary and Korts believed it as well. None of these 3 have hammered Neko at this point and none are voting for him.Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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You voted without a reason. You replaced stating you were reading but never had any conclusion except a list.populartajo wrote:
Id be careful with that vote, farside.farside22 wrote:vote: tajo
Didn't like his hammer at the end. Didn't care for his predessor who was Korts. Felt connections between ABR and Korts.
Why didnt you like my hammer?
Whats wrong with me not caring about Korts?
Also, can you show me that connections?
See DGB's post about the interactions but I will give you more in a bit.Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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Here is the main thing he said about ABR.
I smell scum bussing with his vote on ABR. Korts kept his distance the whole conversation when ABR was being asked. He didn't question the claim.Korts wrote:No, DGB, I never said that a miller claim=confirmed town. To me it makes no immediate difference regarding alignment. I don't "trust millers with my money" but neither do I trust anyone else in this game with it.
So get on with actually relevant scumhunting instead of going off on tangential policy lynches.
Tajo instead of a list how about reason's. I think a list without reason is a poor attempt from you.Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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You are typically more vocal about who is scum and why when you are town. So I've noted.populartajo wrote:
Didnt have much time and mood to make a wallotext post with a decent lynch near. Thought/still think that it is much better to do a better reread knowing neko's alignment.farside22 wrote:
You voted without a reason. You replaced stating you were reading but never had any conclusion except a list.populartajo wrote:
Id be careful with that vote, farside.farside22 wrote:vote: tajo
Didn't like his hammer at the end. Didn't care for his predessor who was Korts. Felt connections between ABR and Korts.
Why didnt you like my hammer?
Whats wrong with me not caring about Korts?
Also, can you show me that connections?
This makes me scum why?[/mech]Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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Oh really since I believe this to be an out and out calling out. Why dont' you share with the class. I don't see you saying anything but player X is scum with nothing to back it up.charter wrote:
Don't think it will behoove town to answer this right this second.DrippingGoofball wrote:
farside??? Why farside?charter wrote:It's totally farside+vollkan.
vote vollkan
I think someone is about to fake claim here. Get ready to bring out your popcorn everyone this should be a good one.Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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To cause a mislynch. It is a nightless game so scum using a tactic to get a player out of the game is not unheard of. He's using no game related reason to say I'm scum. Just as you are. He then goes on to state that it's not town to answer why? He's just making stuff up.populartajo wrote:
Farside, you think charter is softclaiming what. What is the scum benefit for he if he is lying?farside22 wrote:
Oh really since I believe this to be an out and out calling out. Why dont' you share with the class. I don't see you saying anything but player X is scum with nothing to back it up.charter wrote:
Don't think it will behoove town to answer this right this second.DrippingGoofball wrote:
farside??? Why farside?charter wrote:It's totally farside+vollkan.
vote vollkan
I think someone is about to fake claim here. Get ready to bring out your popcorn everyone this should be a good one.
My review should be done tonight.
He may be bussing his scum buddy. Have to look more at volkan/ charter link.Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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I have no idea who that comment is for DGB.DrippingGoofball wrote:
WOW, that's too insane of a scumtell forpopulartajo wrote:
/facepalm.charter wrote:Good imagination, but it's purely meta. I don't think it's fruitful for me to argue that because farside is making sense, she probably isn't town, right now.meto use, to put things in perspective.Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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You seemed to imply you knew something and now are using "she is making too much sense" to gloss over having nothing of a case.charter wrote:Every game I've been in with farside where she's town she has been a loose cannon and made no sense whatsoever. This is quite the opposite of that, so that's why I think she's scum for meta reasons.
Farside also dropped her 'charter needs time to fakeclaim' bs pretty fast too.
Meta is so overrated. Only a few players do I use meta on. I'm criticizing tajo for not supply more info because he's a better player as town. However I can see ABR/ Korts pair looking at the game. Tajo's hammer with little to no reason is another factor that looks scummy. Using meta alone to me is a scum tactic that means I have no case but look at the meta.
Whatever.Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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You don't suck has scum tajo. You are less informative as scum.
You hammer looks scummy because your last comment was is there anything I need to know. You voted on Neko with no case or reason and your list afterwords looked like a desperate attempt at saying something when you said nothing at all.Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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I could be down with Carn vote. Carn has been way behind and I did search his/her (sorry don't remember) profile and he is active just not every day active.
I would be surprise about Volkan scum. Yes I know scum buss but ABR certainly pushed it and the case felt like crap to me.
I don't know I'm still thinkingSarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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