Mini 732: Dr. Horrible's Sing-Along Mafia (Game Over!)

[Rishi]

/confirm

[Rishi]

Here's the story of a girl,
who was brutally murdered

Okay, enough singing for now.

Vote: hasdgfas

On another note, what degree of results/target claiming about the night is usually called for in a Smalltown game? I've never been in one before and wonder what might be considered baseline optimal-strategy protocol.

Not sure why everyone ignored this, but in the one Smalltown game I've played in, we all claimed night choices after each night. I think it's worth discussing. I prefer the popcorn method of claiming night choices.

I do find it interesting that, in a game where the random phase is completely unnecessary, people choose to do it anyway.

[Rishi]

okay I jailkeeped tony montana. Rishi can go next.

I protected Danchaofan last night, actually. I felt the Jailkeeper was a fairly powerful role to keep around. As Gorrad pointed out, this clears Danchaofan, unless there's something in the setup that I'm not considering.

I'm really debating how to use my ability in the future. If we lynch a non-scum today, I will have 9 possible targets - with three scum in the mix. So I usually think cop (or psuedo-cop in my case) is a pretty good trade for a scum. If I advertise who I'm going to protect, then you'll know if that person is scum if I'm dead but it's easier for the scum to find a workaround.

<shrug> We're nowhere near the end of the day. I guess this can come up later.

Hey, H-cow, why don't you go next?

[Rishi]

If I were scum, I assume I would die if I protected a scumbuddy or the SK.

[Rishi]

unvote, vote megatheory

What exactly are you trying to accomplish with the vote-hopping?

[Rishi]

unvote, vote megatheory

What exactly are you trying to accomplish with the vote-hopping?

I was voting Danchofran because I wanted to hear more about the completely idiotic statement that he made saying he might have lied about his night action target, now I'm going back to my first vote.

Okay. But why Megatheory? I know you said your vote wasn't random and you gave a reason when you first voted (which, to be honest, sounded like a joke), but what has Megatheory done since then to get your attention?

[Rishi]

I don't think that not submitting a kill N0 is a scumtell, but if Megatheory was on the scum team, he's a very likely person to not submit a choice (since the person who kills doesn't get their normal choice).

I would say that Megatheory is extremely unlikely to be the SK. What SK would pass up the opportunity to make two kills on N0?

I don't think we should direct vig kills either.

[Rishi]

It seems doubtful that the scum would have chosen not to make a nightkill, so either Tony was the one calling in the order and got roleblocked or the scum tried to target me (if the scum making the action was Megatheory), or Tony Montana was targeted while being jailkeeped (or is it jailkept?) by Danchaofan. If Hasdgfas did indeed bodyguard Porochaz, then either Porochaz wasn’t a target since Hasdgfas survived or Porochaz could possibly be scum.

Or they could have targeted Danchaofan. He was also protected.

[Rishi]

N1, we shouldn't direct the vig. Not yet. Later, we'll see.

I don't get it, but okay.

It's too easy for the scum to find a workaround at this point.

[Rishi]

I think we get enough information from (possibly) 2 N1 kills that N2 onwards it's better to direct vig. I trust that you can make a reasonable decision N1 regarding our kill.

I agree with this. New discussion avenues - are there any?

We should probably lynch someone. Any suggestions?

[Rishi]

I hate when smalltown games devolve into a puzzle rather than actually trying to figure out who is scummy.

[Rishi]

Honestly, in a Smalltown, I don't care about their roles, especially night 0. I'm going to choose someone who I think will be targeted for death because they could be very helpful for the town, even more so than their night action.
If I had to choose between a vanilla-townie Glork and a kill-immune-vigilante-cop-doctor Natirasha, I'm going to choose to bodyguard Glork because he's far more useful, even without having a power role.

Umm, just because Natirasha claimed that role on Page 1 doesn't mean it's true. Okay, we shouldn't pick on players who aren't here.

I'm just wondering, though, if that's the right thing to do. I think Smalltown games are won and lost as much in the night phase as in the day phase. It is also really difficult to scumhunt sometimes, because it's fairly easy for someone to look town when discussing theory.

Also, for those of you playing along at home, I'd like to point out that this was the first post by H-cow that was more than a couple sentences. Glad you're coming out of your shell.

[Rishi]

Also, for those of you playing along at home, I'd like to point out that this was the first post by H-cow that was more than a couple sentences. Glad you're coming out of your shell.

And your point is?

My point is that you're posting a lot but not saying much. It seems like you're being evasive, to some degree.

Unvote

(Random vote - forgot it was there.)

[Rishi]

And

unvote vote Rishi

auto vote for taking off the random vote. Why? There wasnt a danger of a lynch. By taking off the random vote it nullifies its usage. Making lots of fail.

Call me naive, but I thought we voted for people that we wanted lynched.

[Rishi]

Running late for work because I had to make a long post in another thread. Will comment on this Tony Montana implosion (and any other issues) over the weekend.

[Rishi]

Still here. Don't like posting in twilight so will provide content in the morning.