Mini 2270: Spring Fling!

[Andante]

I’d be surprised if ginggie-scum made that post.
Still think andante and datisi are scum.
I feel datisi is just kinda wooden.

You think I'm scum with datisi? lol just get him first then

VOTE: Datisi

[Andante]

I will say Andantes vote has made me lose a lot of confidence.

It feels like faking emotions. Like this is my first game playing dance but even i figured out what actions are viable during whichever game phase.

lmao what?? how am I faking emotions?? want me to leave the dance?

[Andante]

I think my partner might be maf… but then the question is with who…

[Andante]

if I leave, can I be assured datisi and dunn are next to go?

[Andante]

if for whatever reason datisi and dunn are t/t I’m auto leaving
VOTE: Datisi

[Andante]

UNVOTE:
actually wait

[Andante]

why is there 0 attention on ceph and fire… that’s sus to me

[Andante]

VOTE: Fire

[Andante]

I genuinely don’t understand your thoughts/progression on me

[Andante]

maf had a chance to kill, they didn’t. maf is comfortable with the way this is going, NO ONE has voiced suspicion of ceph or fire recently, there’s a scum in therr and I wouldn’t be surprised if it was ceph. I want them out

[Andante]

why not?

[Andante]

the ceph fire pair has at least 1 scum in it

[Andante]

and I literally said why already…

[Andante]

if you’re so convinced I’m maf then leave… but I’m so done with arguing with my own partner here… like seriously

[Andante]

lmaooo whatever

[Andante]

fire is definitely maf here… KNOWS im town

[Andante]

ok if we’re TT and you and ceph are TT, who are the 2 scum?

[Andante]

ok if we’re TT and you and ceph are TT, who are the 2 scum?

if we are, then i would say it's probably datisi/myko. im not sure on ceph but ive been considering possible worlds where he is scum and i don't quite understand the lack of nightkill in that case

so it all comes down to lack of night kill? I mean, who would it make sense for scum!ceph to kill? he can't kill me, I town cased him, I think he's town, ummm can't kill myko or bell, neither is widely TRed, both could be easy pushes, he can't kill in dunn/dats cause that would be where his partner is tbh... like, scum!ceph can't really kill anyone

[Andante]

so fire, I'm not seeing where you're like "no nightkill.... can't be ceph!!"

[Andante]

nope

[Andante]

but it was enough for ceph to know I TRed him, and no chance he'd kill me knowing I TRed him. not saying he's definitely maf or any of that, but more just talking to my sr fire cause I need fire to convince me they're not maf

[Andante]

fire is... mafia!!!!!

[Andante]

idk where you got that i think ceph is for sure town. my mind is not anywhere close to made up on that

I mean, you haven't really hinted at all about a sr on ceph so I took that as you tr him, and yall aren't really interacting, so to me it really looks like there's a scum in yall

[Andante]

ok if we’re TT and you and ceph are TT, who are the 2 scum?

if we are, then i would say it's probably datisi/myko. im not sure on ceph but ive been considering possible worlds where he is scum and i don't quite understand the lack of nightkill in that case

so it all comes down to lack of night kill? I mean, who would it make sense for scum!ceph to kill? he can't kill me, I town cased him, I think he's town, ummm can't kill myko or bell, neither is widely TRed, both could be easy pushes, he can't kill in dunn/dats cause that would be where his partner is tbh... like, scum!ceph can't really kill anyone

i think if it's ceph with datisi they could kill ginngie, or possibly bell, if they think that myko won't pair with dunn. if it's ceph with anyone else, they could kill dunn. idk, it's not that strong, im not saying that its for sure not ceph bc ceph would guaranteed kill, im just saying it doesn't quite fit as well for me

why kill ginngie who keeps saying she for sure leaves me, and no way we do final dance? cause to maf, if we are T/T, you just look at us and you go "lol they're def leaving" OR.... "Ginngie and Andante both have wrong reads, so leave them be..." and that's more what I'm thinking here

[Andante]

why does us not interacting much mean there's a scum in us

i think most dance partners aren't interacting that much in thread

I mean, scum has no incentive to actually read their partner, or actually voice "hey I don't tr my partner" cause scum needs everyone to fully believe their partner is town.... like if I were scum here, me yelling "GINNGIE NOT TOWN!!!" in no way helps here.. cause we both die if voted out... Dunn is talking about Datisi, I like that, I TR Dunn. You and ceph... are not talking like at all... like earlier ceph just going "I trust fire with my andante read" like, that implies ceph TRs you, but I haven't seen a whole lot from ceph about why you're town...

[Andante]

fire is... mafia!!!!!

why does scum fire vote Luke.

uhhh currently thinking it's just ceph, and that fire isn't really thinking about ceph scum

why kill ginngie who keeps saying she for sure leaves me, and no way we do final dance? cause to maf, if we are T/T, you just look at us and you go "lol they're def leaving" OR.... "Ginngie and Andante both have wrong reads, so leave them be..." and that's more what I'm thinking here

i think she only really started saying that after this phase started? idk i didn't get the impression from her earlier that she was def gonna leave

you can't tell me you genuinely believed all game neither of us is going to leave... like its been very clear one of us is leaving

[Andante]

yeah I have no intentions on leaving, and honestly, if Ginngie really wants to play this "hold me to it, I'm leaving in 4 IRL days" game... that's probably scum indicative lmao and then scum leaving is like... lol I'm really interesting in what Ginngie says when she's back cause "I'm leaving in 4 days no matter what" uhhh what?? you SR me more than anyone else here?? lmaoooo ok... Like sure I get you hate me, hate that you're my partner.. but hey, it is what it is.. and I'm definitely town, sooo telling me you're leaving when I had just said I wanna leave... like really??


anyways. myko we sr you too. What are your thoughts with Bell and stuff?

[Andante]

Ginngie, if all you plan on doing is tunneling me.. seriously, we can just leave then, instead of wasting 4 days of everyone else's IRL time, cause I'm not freaking doing this

[Andante]

why does us not interacting much mean there's a scum in us

i think most dance partners aren't interacting that much in thread

I mean, scum has no incentive to actually read their partner, or actually voice "hey I don't tr my partner" cause scum needs everyone to fully believe their partner is town.... like if I were scum here, me yelling "GINNGIE NOT TOWN!!!" in no way helps here.. cause we both die if voted out... Dunn is talking about Datisi, I like that, I TR Dunn. You and ceph... are not talking like at all... like earlier ceph just going "I trust fire with my andante read" like, that implies ceph TRs you, but I haven't seen a whole lot from ceph about why you're town...

ok but this is why i was townreading ginngie. she has no scum motivation to come into this phase doubting her TR on you if she's scum and you're town

umm she's trying to get ahead of my push on her. she went very silent in the PT, and that did not go un noticed (PT is cancelled now, I'm not using it) but like, this goes back to me just being an easy push. Like, why does Ginngie even sr me?? cause I'm not playing by an agenda??? right...

[Andante]

have this day last longer than a real life day

I want it over as soon as possible if Ginngie is set on leaving here

[Andante]

instead of actually wasting my time trying to find maf

[Andante]

umm she's trying to get ahead of my push on her. she went very silent in the PT, and that did not go un noticed (PT is cancelled now, I'm not using it) but like, this goes back to me just being an easy push. Like, why does Ginngie even sr me?? cause I'm not playing by an agenda??? right...

you two are tied together. what does her scumreading you accomplish if she's scum?

this is 100% mind games, so if she’s gonna keep saying “I’m leaving!!!” instead of actually leaving?? yeah… mind games, like I don’t actually believe she is leaving, but if she’s going to do nothing but tunnel me for 4 IRL days… might as well just leave cause I don’t wanna deal with it

[Andante]

like, I don’t actually SR her, it’s just so freaking annoying, she’s over here yelling that I’m maf for what… being myself??? so if she wants to tunnel me then leave… whatever

[Andante]

given this game goes through phases of twitter posting, it can't be a deep mindgame.

#MykoMafia

[Andante]

umm she's trying to get ahead of my push on her. she went very silent in the PT, and that did not go un noticed (PT is cancelled now, I'm not using it) but like, this goes back to me just being an easy push. Like, why does Ginngie even sr me?? cause I'm not playing by an agenda??? right...

you two are tied together. what does her scumreading you accomplish if she's scum?

this is 100% mind games, so if she’s gonna keep saying “I’m leaving!!!” instead of actually leaving?? yeah… mind games, like I don’t actually believe she is leaving, but if she’s going to do nothing but tunnel me for 4 IRL days… might as well just leave cause I don’t wanna deal with it

Also lmfao now you know how i felt when i joined the game and all you said was you were gonna leave leave leave cuz you thought i was mafia and nothing was gonna change your mind.

Feels a lot different when the shoe is on the other foot

seriously?

[Andante]

So does Andante simultaneously think it's Datisi, Ginngie, and fireisredsir?

it’s Cephrir. 100% lol like I am CONFIDENT. we need to yeet fire/ceph here

[Andante]

uhhh it kinda was strong, but then like, I have stronger reasons to SR ceph than tr, plus like, ceph literally just went "You voted fire and I? I'll vote you" Ceph has done no actual solving all game, he literally has to be mafia

[Andante]

Even maybe scum Andante sees it.

you see, town andante went "fire is just ignoring ceph...." hmmm ceph isn't that towny... actually I think he's maf... then he posted last night and I was like "yeah he's maf" CEPH + GINNGIE. GG EASY GAME!!!!

[Andante]

would love to hear from datisi though

[Andante]

uhhh it kinda was strong, but then like, I have stronger reasons to SR ceph than tr, plus like, ceph literally just went "You voted fire and I? I'll vote you" Ceph has done no actual solving all game, he literally has to be mafia

So you didn't read my posts?

I did and I SRed them

[Andante]

instead of actually wasting my time trying to find maf

shouldn't you want to push your reads if you're expecting to imminently die. it's only 'wasting time' if your only goal with scumhunting is to get townread, no?

VOTE: andante

like, why are you even voting me if it's for any reason other than "you're voting us"

I've been pushing my reads... I was talking to fire?? and yeah it's wasting time if Ginngie is deadset on leaving, like, what's the point of even trying.. cause I KNOW no one is sheeping me after im dead "lol she called everyone maf. who cares"

[Andante]

DATISI WELCOME BACK!!!! Ceph is mafia, we're voing him out, then I'm leaving and bam town wins. gg easy

[Andante]

Ok, I just had a thought and I think it's worth sharing. I wanna say I TR datisi, there is no chance he comes in going "what the fuck happened" as maf, after the me and ginngie stuff... NOT. A. CHANCE.

Which then kinda just makes reads like, hmmm, cause yeah, Datisi scum has been making sense, in a way, but like, I commented to Ginngie before Datisi showed up that I don't think Datisi is actually scum, then he showed up, and I was like, ok, he might not be, I've been TRing Dunn, myko and bell seem alright... that leaves fire and ceph.

we know there was no kill last night. Kill means someone is partner hunting right? so if fire and ceph killed someone, someone would most likely go to them to take a partner... as proven by the first kill...


I think the team is Ceph and Fire. it's a bold move yes. but I think that perfectly explains why a kill didn't happen

[Andante]

Ceph, what's your read on fire?

[Andante]

Ceph, what's your read on fire?

probably town

what makes fire town

[Andante]

Ok, I just had a thought and I think it's worth sharing. I wanna say I TR datisi, there is no chance he comes in going "what the fuck happened" as maf, after the me and ginngie stuff... NOT. A. CHANCE.

Which then kinda just makes reads like, hmmm, cause yeah, Datisi scum has been making sense, in a way, but like, I commented to Ginngie before Datisi showed up that I don't think Datisi is actually scum, then he showed up, and I was like, ok, he might not be, I've been TRing Dunn, myko and bell seem alright... that leaves fire and ceph.

we know there was no kill last night. Kill means someone is partner hunting right? so if fire and ceph killed someone, someone would most likely go to them to take a partner... as proven by the first kill...


I think the team is Ceph and Fire. it's a bold move yes. but I think that perfectly explains why a kill didn't happen

we would definitely have killed someone and tried to get datisi left out

who would yall have killed to achieve that? Dunn?

[Andante]

Ceph, what's your read on fire?

probably town

what makes fire town

their posts :3

they are scumhunting have had nuanced thoughts and i dont think have ever made a post that made me suspicious

so if fire's posts make fire town, whose posts make them scum?

0 suspicious posts to you? that sounds odd

[Andante]

Ok, I just had a thought and I think it's worth sharing. I wanna say I TR datisi, there is no chance he comes in going "what the fuck happened" as maf, after the me and ginngie stuff... NOT. A. CHANCE.

i've seen some asspull reads in my time but this takes the cake

I mean, am I supposed to think scum Datisi does nothing but push me? I think you'd have a different strat as scum. and it's a real read tyvm

[Andante]

Ok, I just had a thought and I think it's worth sharing. I wanna say I TR datisi, there is no chance he comes in going "what the fuck happened" as maf, after the me and ginngie stuff... NOT. A. CHANCE.

Which then kinda just makes reads like, hmmm, cause yeah, Datisi scum has been making sense, in a way, but like, I commented to Ginngie before Datisi showed up that I don't think Datisi is actually scum, then he showed up, and I was like, ok, he might not be, I've been TRing Dunn, myko and bell seem alright... that leaves fire and ceph.

we know there was no kill last night. Kill means someone is partner hunting right? so if fire and ceph killed someone, someone would most likely go to them to take a partner... as proven by the first kill...


I think the team is Ceph and Fire. it's a bold move yes. but I think that perfectly explains why a kill didn't happen

we would definitely have killed someone and tried to get datisi left out

who would yall have killed to achieve that? Dunn?

i can't even think of a kill that wouldn't probably result in that outcome

hm datisi is scum isn't he

I thought I was scum? so here I am TRing my partner?

[Andante]

so if fire's posts make fire town, whose posts make them scum?

[looks at vote]

feels like you could figure this one out on your own

well I know you're voting me, I wanna know what specific posts you SR. you can't just go "everything you post is bad!!!" I want specific stuff. let's go.

(Pooky, whenever I'm near 200 please let me know lol I feel like I'll be hitting it here)

[Andante]

0 suspicious posts to you? that sounds odd

shrug

town or scum, theres no denying he is cute

lmaooo you're legit not even trying to scumhunt here...

[Andante]

this is gonna be luke 2.0.... We sr luke when mala is scum, we sr datisi when Dunn is scum...

[Andante]

this is gonna be luke 2.0.... We sr luke when mala is scum, we sr datisi when Dunn is scum...

but don't get me wrong... I still SR ceph!!!

[Andante]

Ceph: I'm just gonna quote my ISO and say nothing


ahhh yes.. lets quote from the ISO I SR...

[Andante]

this is gonna be luke 2.0.... We sr luke when mala is scum, we sr datisi when Dunn is scum...

dunn isn't scum

I feel like I've been giving more reasoning for my reads than you have....

[Andante]

anyone have a read on whether scum are happy with the gamestate or scared to do anything

yeah me neither

ceph, how much time did you spend thinking before you made this post?

the first part: none

the second part: idk a minute or two maybe

so why do you seem to magically come to scum!me via night actions in 2410 once your pair is being threatened

I CAN ANSWER THIS ONE!!! It's cause datisi/myko were the 2 names being thrown around!!! so then Ceph was like "yeah datisi maf" but now you're here, and he's gonna be scared of you, and back far away from that thought tbh

[Andante]

anyone have a read on whether scum are happy with the gamestate or scared to do anything

yeah me neither

ceph, how much time did you spend thinking before you made this post?

the first part: none

the second part: idk a minute or two maybe

so why do you seem to magically come to scum!me via night actions in 2410 once your pair is being threatened

I CAN ANSWER THIS ONE!!! It's cause datisi/myko were the 2 names being thrown around!!! so then Ceph was like "yeah datisi maf" but now you're here, and he's gonna be scared of you, and back far away from that thought tbh

wow you think im bad at this game huh

I mean, I don’t think your reads are genuine reads sooooo…. like, you SR me… I’m supposed to agree?? lmaoo

[Andante]

andante, do you know the difference between genuine and correct

yeah, but like Ceph’s SR on me makes no sense, doesn’t feel like he actually SRs me either

[Andante]

andante, do you know the difference between genuine and correct

yeah, but like Ceph’s SR on me makes no sense, doesn’t feel like he actually SRs me either

thus not genuine

[Andante]

andante, do you know the difference between genuine and correct

yeah, but like Ceph’s SR on me makes no sense, doesn’t feel like he actually SRs me either

i read through the pages i missed and i was (maybe foolishly) hoping i would get why you went from townreading him to scumreading him and like i'm not sure i get it

why is ceph scum, pls no "read on me isn't genuine" or something similarly vague like that

Yeah so there's a bunch of parts to it, but it's a very recent read, like, the top thing to me, is probably just, yesterday I was talking to fire like "you and ceph have basically 0 interactions here, looks like you TR each other, making 0 effort to read each other..." and hey, to me that's a huge red flag..

Then last night the 2 were talking to each other in the thread, like "what do you think of the no kill" and fire was like " I already said..."
That just looked like forced interaction here to me... like, it read to me as scum!ceph seeing I was noticing that they're not interacting here, then Ceph trying to interact... and fire's "I already said..." like, that just shows Ceph isn't even trying to read fire...

Then this morning I had the thought about how if maf killed... fire was probably getting taken by whoever... since that was very popular yesterday... meaning scum!ceph literally can't kill anyone

And yeah, Ceph talks to me like he knows I'm town, yet he's voting me and is all "I'm voting scum" when asked...


So yeah, I think Ceph is mafia here, he's not really trying to find scum, and he's not even trying to read his partner, cause he needs his partner to stay alive...

[Andante]

my attention is currently on ginnie, cephrir, and dunnstral

I'm not 100% sold on Ginngie's alignment right now, but I understand her plan right now (after she explained it lol) I very well might be pocketed by her... Has Cephrir even talked about Ginngie/Prism once?

[Andante]

Cephrir, you sound so against leaving this dance… yet at the same time you’re really not pushing any reads… makes me think even more that you’re maf here

[Andante]

Also Ginngie I’ll respond to you here instead of PT cause I’m annoyed, you keep saying we’re TT and that you still want to leave all cause you don’t “trust us” like seriously… if you’re not actually going to play, just leave then, cause I’m sick of all this talk about “oh must leave!!” and like no solving… there’s no reason to be convinced TT us HAS TO LEAVE… it’s seriously annoying Ginngie

[Andante]

Also Ginngie I’ll respond to you here instead of PT cause I’m annoyed, you keep saying we’re TT and that you still want to leave all cause you don’t “trust us” like seriously… if you’re not actually going to play, just leave then, cause I’m sick of all this talk about “oh must leave!!” and like no solving… there’s no reason to be convinced TT us HAS TO LEAVE… it’s seriously annoying Ginngie

This isn’t really a good response to Ginggie’s AtE post. In which they announce they’ve been aTe’d by you.

I typed that before seeing the post genius…

(had more but stupid phone logged me out as I posted)

but I’m glad Ginngie at least agrees with me on Ceph maf.

THERE IS NO WORLD IN WHICH CEPHRIR CAN BE TOWN HERE.

[Andante]

I think Andante would join us on a Datisi flip but she currently townreads him due to his recent posting.

What sense does this even make??? Andante TR’s Datisi… but she’ll vote him!!! I literally told you he’s town??? Ceph is maf and you’re like actively against going there?? you probably are maf tbh.. trying to push “easy lim” datisi through…

[Andante]

Am I wrong to state that your reads do a 180 almost every day?

I'm maf, I'm town, I'm maf, I'm town, now I'm maf again

like it's not hard to guess that your read would change sooner or later in supporting it.

they really don't... I literally only went to calling you maf (thus literally no push) cause you said you were doing something??
but now it's like "oh I'm sure Andante will vote her TR!!!" what's wrong with voting ceph and fire? you tr both? your partner is in them?

[Andante]

I'm heavily considering leaving cause I don't want the datisi lim to go through. I think it's simply just Ginngie and Ceph for maf

[Andante]

I want yall's reads on Ginngie before I do end up leaving though.

Ginngie's whole "I'm leaving in this countdown" thing was never serious, it was to "get reads"

[Andante]

I hate how it's now like "we have to lim datisi" excuse me... ceph is maf, and you have yet to tell me what makes ceph town, and instead are gunning after the "easy lim"

[Andante]

a way that idk why he would do if he were partners with her

but I mean, saying something in a hood but not here.... there's still a large difference

[Andante]

I want yall's reads on Ginngie before I do end up leaving though.

Ginngie's whole "I'm leaving in this countdown" thing was never serious, it was to "get reads"

Already gave my reads.

so you think ginngie town?

[Andante]

woooow Datisi and Dunn were a town/town pair... who would've thought

[Andante]

cool 1 left, the way myko hammered that was very sus.. like maf bussing for towncred? could still be ceph though

[Andante]

RL stuff is stressful right now, I'll be V/LA till sunday

[Andante]

gg all