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What do you mean you investigate as both town and mafia? Like it's 50-50?In post 12, Nathann wrote:Also, while we're on the first page:
I am a Miller.Kind of. I investigate as both town and mafia. And I flip as both town and mafia. Cool? Cool.-
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yeah I got hit with the sense of deja vu tooIn post 23, Toogeloo wrote:Cat Scratch, Andante, and Rad Rat probably understand why I'm laughing in real life right now over A50's opening posts..
Because of the ~fusion~In post 24, Almost50 wrote:Why another Miller?-
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I liked A50's gamesolving energy.In post 78, Nordom wrote:You wanna to elaborate on these fee-fees?
Also, Nathan. I'm going to assume for the moment that your vote on me was a "gut-read" or something, but could you explain your vote on me a bit?
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He's only made 3 posts pushing you at this point. What makes him scum over other people on your wagon like me or Toog?In post 92, Roden wrote:As scum. He's trying to push a fast mis-elim and is ignoring anything that goes against his case.
I don't think PGO is that obvious? It's reflexive
andkills people, but the latter effect is missing.
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Does it say somewhere that you can't submit modifiers? I assumed you could, but have nothing to base this on.In post 149, Roden wrote:The sample role PM couldn't have been fused with Reflexive [Role] because it made a point to show individual role submissions can't be [Modifier] + [Role]. Otherwise what stops people from submitting something like Disloyal Day Vig?
you may be right about the role name. I just looked up my role in the Wiki, and apparently it's there, although I've literally never heard of it in all of my years of playing here. And the mod kind of took... creative liberties with it.In post 149, Roden wrote: You absolutely should know what you're fused with. Unless your role name is nonsense and your ability requires a cypher to read, I don't see how that's possible, especially when the set up says you can ask the mod for clarification on what your role does.-
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What was disingenuous about it?In post 127, Nordom wrote:UNVOTE: Ircher
VOTE: Almost50
Read Almost's post 122 and decide if that was a genuine town post.
Why no vote?In post 132, Radical Rat wrote:A50 Town, Roden Scum, Ircher... Not sure, leaning Town.
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What's your read on Rosen aside from the scum slip? What do you think about his a50 push?In post 153, Nathann wrote:On this whole Roden/Almost50 nonsense:
At first I thought that Roden was doing a weird reaction test on me by asking me if I'm a Miller/Godfather combo. 63 was pretty clear to me, though, "the role name and description make it easy to guess what you were fused with". I don't think my role description does that, however I do think that the sample role PMs do make it relatively easy to make a guess, maybe not the exact one, but close enough.
I'm not saying Roden is town because of this, but I don't think this makes him scum. I stand by my townread on Almost50, 122 feels like a post that is made by a townie who believes they've caught a slip, but is also willing to reconsider. I think if he were scum who was trying to push town!Roden, he wouldn't have opened that possibility, especially as votes were piling onto Roden.-
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Ignoring the specifics of who you think wrote the actual post, you should still be able to say what about 122 felt disingenuousIn post 202, Nordom wrote:@Almost 50I wouldn't give too much credence to the ping-pong thoughts of a brain whirl-pooled in alcohol, other than the intent to fumble around and try to nail the mafia. Broken brain is just a euphemism to hide a secret shame.
*Breathes in shakily*
My name is Nordom and I'm an alcoholic.
My role name isn't a fused/compound word eitherIn post 214, Almost50 wrote:Well, alright hen.. this is a good lead I think. Can everyone else state whether their role follows the "name fusion" suggested by Roden or not?
I don't want to speak for RR, but by "bluff," I think he meant that Town typically does not claim Vengeful like this under pressure. That was my reaction at leastIn post 226, Roden wrote:
Already beat you to that thought process. If you think it's a fake claim, then one other person in the game shouldn't have been fused with my Vengeful submission, and I couldn't have the Gunsmith half either since no one could have submitted that. My role is actually very confirmable, as is everyone else's.In post 224, Radical Rat wrote:It also seems to me that if Roden was indeed Town Vengeful, he shouldn't have said so. Because indeed, if he's Town, scum likely aren't going to want to hammer him... Which means if he does get eliminated, it's most likely Town doing the hammering.... Which means the role is now anti-Town.
So yeah, I'm calling the bluff.
The role isn't anti-town for claiming either, I already announced my Venge target. Scum have to kill me tonight now if I don't get elim'd; I consider tanking the NK as pretty pro-town.
Because by claiming Venge, you basically ruin any chance you have at genuine reaction testing. You could be mafia venge though, in which case leaving your slot for later in the game is extremely dangerous.-
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Why, ircher?
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Why do you think I'm scum instead of town who believed Roden was scum?In post 309, Nordom wrote:VOTE: Cat Scratch Fever
This guy has done nothing but parrot the obvious, give easy reads, and hard-defend Almost50 every step of the way. Feels like him buckling up comfortably on Almost's Roden lynch of the day.
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I don't see what's unnatural about the thought process here? Vengeful townies don't usually claim vengeful when run up like that. It's even called out in the vengeful wiki entry.In post 316, Nordom wrote:Almost has already gave out the response that they confused "Vengeful" with "Supersaint", which is the role that leads to the person hammering getting offed. So, two people at relatively the same time somehow made the exact same "mistake", despite Rat being comfortable enough to call the role claim "a bluff".
So, either we can assume this is town who just isn't paying attention or mafia grabbing onto any reasoning at their feet to bring the lynch to it's juicy conclusion. I'm inclined to go with the latter. I've had an uncomfortable feeling about RadicalRat for quite a while, so take that for what it's worth. Rather get this than Cat for now.-
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Well what would you like to know?In post 372, Nordom wrote:You know, is this what's expected of a mafia game now? "Let's all say these things, but don't back them up or elaborate on anything." You do realise that communication of thoughts and ideas is what makes this game tick, right?-
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I got the feeling there was some sort of misreading when I was reading the your back and forth. I guess I can take a stab at explaining, since what RR said in 224 sort of made sense to me:In post 376, Nordom wrote:
Well, if you say some shit like "I don't feel Nordom's case" then at least back it up with some reasoning on why. I'm not advocating for players to write paragraphs and paragraphs every time, but to communicate what they're thinking goes a long way.In post 374, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
Well what would you like to know?In post 372, Nordom wrote:You know, is this what's expected of a mafia game now? "Let's all say these things, but don't back them up or elaborate on anything." You do realise that communication of thoughts and ideas is what makes this game tick, right?
- Town Vengeful usually do not claim Town Vengeful at E-1. I've seen Town Vengeful fakeclaim at E-1 and die denying their true role.
- The reason to not trueclaim is because doing so will prompt scum to play around the vengeful. Town, being uninformed, will have "scummier" reactions than scum, which is bad because the vengeful will probably end up killing town.
- Roden claimed Venge at E-1. Therefore, Roden was probably scum, not a Town Vengeful.
Although tbh, the last part I don't 100% agree with b/c I didn't think Roden was fakeclaiming, I kinda thought he was scum venge.-
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Mostly because of his Ircher push - I thought 335 warrants a response.In post 378, Nordom wrote:Why are you reading Radical town though?-
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I didn't think Roden was really lying in his own grave when he claimed though. Based on the tone, it looked like he claimed in 204 thinking that was going to get people to shift off.In post 381, Nordom wrote:
This is something that I posted about, but it was mostly ignored.Roden wrote:Town Vengeful usually do not claim Town Vengeful at E-1. I've seen Town Vengeful fakeclaim at E-1 and die denying their true role
In post 221, Nordom wrote:Hmmmmmm. I'm inclined to believe Roden is town here because their story seems pretty consistent. They didn't really put up a fight, even when put a L-1 and anybody could have hammered at any time. There was barely any resistance to their lynch and I would think if they were mafia they would have claimed earlier as opposed to waiting for someone to prompt them to claim.
The possibility exists that they could have the role as mafia, but I think mafia would use their role as leverage to get a wagon off them as opposed to submitting to a lynch just to kill someone. People are going to be hesitant to push on a Vengeful claim and I find it hard to believe maf wouldn't take advantage of that in a more timely fashion.
Ircher also did a 180 on A50 and then refused to engage today. Idk, I don't want to speak for RR but how often do you stick to your day 1 gut reads?In post 382, Nordom wrote:
I threw shade on this shit as well. If Radical was gut-reading town on Ircher D1, why all of a sudden are they going to push on him when I pressure him with a vote and Galan throws a vote on him?In post 380, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
Mostly because of his Ircher push - I thought 335 warrants a response.In post 378, Nordom wrote:Why are you reading Radical town though?-
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I just have to do it once right? I don't have to keep my vote on you?In post 387, Enchant wrote:CSF, can you vote me?
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I think it's a valid question though.In post 476, Enchant wrote:I am not answering anti-town questions.
You voting me for this doesh't look any good.
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Are you voting enchant to enable his ability or because you think he's scum?
This kind of posting is getting really old. Even if you refuse to elaborate on your a50 vote from earlier, i don't see any reason to be so abstruse here?
I think fae is actually scumreading you for exactly what you're written here in this post.In post 502, Greeting wrote:I don't feel like pushing the issue of your pronouns further actually. I apologised and said that I'll do better. If you continue to take my vote and my post personally because of that then I can't really help it. My vote stays, hopefully you'll soon actually prove to everyone, including myself that I was belittling you (as in, underestimating your contributions to the game and not of you as a player or person), because I don't feel that I am
Not actively but I think you're in the PoE because i don't see any reason to put you as town. I don't understand why Nordon is townreading you and you've flown under the radar a lot. whereas if you were town, i think scum would've jumped on you as a potential easy miselim
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TownIn post 541, Toogeloo wrote:
What is your PoE?In post 534, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:Not actively but I think you're in the PoE
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This. It makes sense to me and i can buy someone having this thought process yesterday.In post 399, Radical Rat wrote:
That was the entire point I was trying to make. I didn't believe the claim, because Town shouldn't have claimed there, and as such wanted the elimination to happen. Though with knowledge of Roden's actual abilities, I do actually think claiming and getting eliminated for it was the correct play, at the time I didn't buy it.In post 359, Nordom wrote:If that were the case, why didn't you just point that out? You claimed that scum were going to NK them regardless, why would it matter that Roden was going to get hammered? You kept the lynch at L-1 and didn't unvote, which is an obvious indicator that you wanted to the lynch to go through. If you truly believed that town was going to be the hammer on them, then you would have said so. You didn't and sat on your haunches while it went through.-
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Because I was asked nicely.In post 551, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:Toog, why are you voting for rat?
Do you have an opinion on Nordom? Do you have an opinion on Rat?
Nope, this just feels like a stall.In post 565, Ircher wrote:I will reveal the info day 4.-
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Why? His replace out seems NAI.
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Not that confident. Greeting and Flea haven't given me SvS vibes so far, but I also think that'll depend on how Greeting responds to Flea's wall.In post 644, Toogeloo wrote:
How likely do you think that the solve would be Flea, Ircher, and greeting, and doesn't that feel a little on the nose considering those 3 names are all being pushed today varying amounts?In post 545, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
TownIn post 541, Toogeloo wrote:
What is your PoE?In post 534, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:Not actively but I think you're in the PoE
Nathan, Nordom, almost
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Why are Enchant, Galron, and Rat all town leans?
Enchant regret at hammering seemed genuine end of day yesterday.
Galron is admittedly low effort, but I think that's also within his townrange and I liked his Ircher push.
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In post 665, Ircher wrote:Look if I were scum, I'd be putting in more effort than I am right now.
Can you explain why you think Nordom/Dwlee is scum? It's not an unreasonable ask, we're not asking you to move mountains.In post 666, Ircher wrote:Anyway Nordom was in fact scum, but it's a lot more convenient to vote there when I'm not going to get barraged by a flurry of posts that reiterate the same point 20 times.-
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