This is awkward, sorry Cyrus.In post 290, cyrus62 wrote:im here
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JJH locktown probably.
Pooky and Dwlee voting together means they're either just good buddies, or one of them is scum and is using the other as a conduit of towniness.
Flea is just looking to have fun. Probably town?
NM soul read as scum. Miltank is too OP for this set up anyway.
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His ISO looks like my ISO when I'm town. BUT maybe pushing the game forward is just the better option here.In post 296, Radical Rat wrote:
He's probably actually scumIn post 295, Roden wrote:Do people actually think NK15 is scum or is this a meme wagon?
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In post 298, Roden wrote:
His ISO looks like my ISO when I'm town.In post 296, Radical Rat wrote:
He's probably actually scumIn post 295, Roden wrote:Do people actually think NK15 is scum or is this a meme wagon?
OOFIn post 328, Jingle wrote: You know what they say: "Turnabout is fair play." Not Known 15 has been torn apart by hyenas. They were:
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Ok, so we have two people off wagon: NK15, who flipped scum, and JJH, who is locktown. The Galron vote on Radical Rat is an error, his last vote was on NK15.
We also had four people just not voting at all: Flea, Enchant, Firebringer, and Faerie. None of them ever voted NK15, nor did they ever really interact with them, so I don't really see any associatives. Faerie at the very least does look uninformed though, the shade on JJH right before NK15 flipped red makes me think that they genuinely didn't know he'd flip red.
I don't think both scum stayed off the wagon, and I don't think both bussed either. I also town lean a couple of the people on the wagon. So for me, I think either Radical Rat, Galron, or NM bussed. For the non-voters, it's between Flea, Enchant, and Firebringer. I'll be going by this PoE this game, and starting off with:
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I'd seen that defense of Flea by NK15, but I wasn't sure what to think of it. It's possible he just spewed fae as town, I just don't want to write Flea off as town yet until fae starts town telling.
I do think it's pretty +town to defend Flea here though. Game state vibes suggest the scum team don't have any momentum and aren't doing much to try to control the game state, but also need to keep potential mis-elim choices open if fae is town. There was hardly any resistance to the NK15 wagon and there weren't any notable counter wagons. They're likely playing cautiously since their first scum buddy got ran up quickly.
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Enchant is mostly just messing around in his ISO, this sticks out a bit though because he complains about the game stalling but he doesn't do much to push the game forward. He doesn't even vote the leading wagon despite him wanting to start killing people.In post 226, Enchant wrote:Game staling, when we start murdering?
This vote doesn't make any sense, he finally votes the leading wagon after it's already been hammered.
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This post is kinda funny in hindsight but I admittedly town read this before the flip, probably because the frustration feels genuine. Poor guy wasn't getting any help at all from his buddies.In post 237, Not Known 15 wrote:
The game is stalling because there are some complacent people who haven't expressed a single read, or the absence of reads other than null. Scum are probably waiting for someone to vote me to E-1 so that Not Mafia can lolhammer and produce a cheap mislim.In post 226, Enchant wrote:Game staling, when we start murdering?
Well, this situation again...
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In post 202, Galron wrote:Firebringer is lockscum but I want him for elo
Galron, do you think these two are the rest of the scum team?In post 203, Galron wrote:I think RR is scum-
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This is one of the towniest posts of all time.In post 573, TemporalLich wrote:you do realize radical rat is scum right?
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Lmao
Pretty sure that was meant to be a frame attempt on TL. Scum probably wanted them to win the fight because right around now would've been a good time to send in scum to fight so that they don't have to 1v1 towards end game. And there's absolutely no way scum were trying to fear kill TL, even if anything they said was right nobody was actually listening to them. The plan was likely for him to win and then take all the heat today for being super scummy all game and putting Rat at an early E-1 without announcing it.
But, they didn't account for TL making a niche fighter choice that you would have to Google to find out what the hell it even was.
Faerie is also locktown because scum don't try to 1v1 a scum read townie ever.
So that leaves me at a Galron/Dwlee/NM PoE.
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In post 734, Galron wrote:That's the team right? Faerie and Mage plus Roden?
Galron 100% was smiling as he was typing these posts lolIn post 735, Galron wrote:Huge scumslip-
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I think I just did that? I have a PoE of three people, we kill one today then the other dies tonight in a fight. If both scum don't flip one after the other but we still get at least one red flip, then we can vote out the last one and win. And I kinda prefer to do this while we're both still in the game and have a solid town core.
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I've seen him do that as town if he isn't invested in the game, unfortunately. And I've seen him put in effort as scum.In post 769, jjh927 wrote:I think the secret to reading NM is that if you give NM the space to troll and lolhammer and then that is the only thing he does in the whole game over multiple day phases then he is scum-
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You think scum set themselves up to fight two nights in a row and won both times? Why does Faerie set themself up against Lich even though they were mis-elim bait?
I don't really have a strong reason to town read Flea but I trust all of the earlier town reads that were made previous days.
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Could you explain why that's a scummy reaction? Do you think it's impossible for town to reevaluate their read on you?In post 780, Galron wrote:In post 741, Roden wrote:Galron panic spewing lol. I know this is just a meme game and we're not really taking it seriously, but he's making it really obvious that he's scum at this point.
Scummy reaction. Roden hasn't scum read me all game and then this?In post 742, Roden wrote:In post 734, Galron wrote:That's the team right? Faerie and Mage plus Roden?
Galron 100% was smiling as he was typing these posts lolIn post 735, Galron wrote:Huge scumslip
Also why do I say to vote you here if I'm scum? If multiple suspect Flea and Faerie, if one of them were my partner I'd just vote the townie out. With NM in the game I know I'd need one less vote than usual to quick hammer town. This day phase would've been really easy to win tbh.
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I agree that FB did basically claim they'd be an easy win, but that feels a little too obvious. This does give me pause to reconsider though.In post 781, jjh927 wrote:
No, I think scum did that probably one of the times. Flea is the most likely though. If you find speculating around the fights to be productive I am very slightly concerned that Flea's fight was against Firebringer who declared intent to basically job the fight by picking an obscure anime character, while Flea's pick is a comedic approach that would generally beat any cool and op anime character you could think of when it comes to the voteIn post 775, Roden wrote:You think scum set themselves up to fight two nights in a row and won both times? Why does Faerie set themself up against Lich even though they were mis-elim bait?
I don't really have a strong reason to town read Flea but I trust all of the earlier town reads that were made previous days.
What makes Galron town?
The last game I played with Galron, Galron looked very similar.
This feels similar to Galron's scum game actually. Scum!Galron cares about his image and actively tries to look townie, and will go out of his way to associate with loud town voices. Town!Galron will usually just do his own thing and doesn't really care about how he looks. I've also noticed that as town that he'll try to use meta to read me, but he isn't really doing that here.
I'm going to stick my neck out and townlock Faerie here. I don't think it's possible for them to be scum since they went up against Lich. It's technically possible it was a gambit but I don't believe it was.In post 782, jjh927 wrote:If you want to speculate around the fights properly then note that if either one of Faerie or Flea is scum then Galron surely is not due to voting against their fighters
If Flea is scum then the people who voted for fae's fighter still make up the rest of my PoE, AKA Dwlee and NM.
I think we're guaranteed one scum between Flea and Galron, they're not SvS or TvT.-
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Yeah, I just looked at it. Am I missing something?In post 795, Dwlee99 wrote:
Roden... you know there's only two people alive that didn't vote for Flea's fighter?In post 612, Jingle wrote:Fighter A: Natsuki Subaru in the Ayamatsu IF Timeline was submitted by Firebringer.
Fighter B: Incorporeal voices whispering dad jokes endlessly was submitted by Flea the Magician.
A: Galron, jjh927, Firebringer
B: TemporalLich, Dwlee99, Not_Mafia, Roden, Radical Rat, Flea the Magician, Faerie Mages
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You know what? Fuck this. I'm out. Natsuki Subaru has given up on the fight, taking Firebringer with him. Firebringer was:
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I mean, if Flea is scum then that's true. JJH is locktown regardless, but Galron is not scum if Flea is scum, and vice versa.In post 797, Dwlee99 wrote:"The people that voted for flea's fighter make up my poe"
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That's like worthless idk
My PoE today was already Galron/you/NM. If Galron is wrong and Flea is actually scum, that doesn't clear you or NM. Faerie and JJH are town, and I'm not claiming scum. Like there isn't much else to it tbh.-
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Might've been tempted if anyone took this game seriously enough to defend themselves when they were run up tbh. But between the quick hammers and the OMGUS, nobody was really playing. And if scum were in the fighters like you said then you never were going to get votes to dig through there.In post 812, jjh927 wrote:If we'd voted there in the last day phase we'd have had more insurance as well because as I kept fucking saying it was optimal to lim in those who have already fought
Would have been massively >50% odds of winning whereas now I'd say we're well under that
Thing is that we probably would've voted Flea yesterday if I listened to you, who you now believe to be town, and we'd be stuck in an even worse ELo today if fae did flip green. I really don't see how our chances would be higher today unless both Flea and Faerie are scum, but I have a hard time believing either are tbh.-
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Dwlee I'm pretty sure you know by now that it isn't in my scum range to openly buddy up with my partner. I also don't set up my scum buddy against Lich ever, I was the only one town reading that slot and they were pretty obviously going to get mis-elim'd if they had survived their fight. If anything, it would've been optimal for me to bus Faerie there since nobody expects scum to NK themselves.In post 820, Dwlee99 wrote:In post 331, Jingle wrote:Fighter A: Batman with six months prep time was submitted by jjh927.
Fighter B: A bear made of metal. was submitted by a disinterested party on behalf of PookyTheMagicalBear, who failed to submit a fighter on time.
A: Faerie Mages, Radical Rat, Not_Mafia, Roden, jjh927, Flea the Magician, Temporal Lich, Enchant
B: Dwlee99, PookytheMagicalBear, Firebringer,
The bear made of metal lies cold and dead, as does Pooky, it's master. Pooky was:
TOWNIn post 612, Jingle wrote:Fighter A: Natsuki Subaru in the Ayamatsu IF Timeline was submitted by Firebringer.
Fighter B: Incorporeal voices whispering dad jokes endlessly was submitted by Flea the Magician.
A: Galron, jjh927, Firebringer
B: TemporalLich, Dwlee99, Not_Mafia, Roden, Radical Rat, Flea the Magician, Faerie Mages
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You know what? Fuck this. I'm out. Natsuki Subaru has given up on the fight, taking Firebringer with him. Firebringer was:
TOWNIn post 669, Jingle wrote:Fighter A: Isabelle from Animal Crossing with Doom Guy was submitted by Faerie Mages.
Fighter B: Supreme Calamitas was submitted by TemporalLich.
A: jjh927, Dwlee99, Not_Mafia, Roden, Flea the Magician, Faerie Mages
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I'd prepared a longwinded commentary of the epic battle, but unfortunately wasn't able to provide it due to a lack of oxygen. Supreme Calamitas suffered a supreme calamity, taking TemporalLich along for the ride. TemporalLich was:
TOWN
Roden/Faerie have voted together every timeIn post 807, Jingle wrote:Fighter A: Giant frog with magic and opposable thumbs was submitted by Dwlee99.
Fighter B: Whitney's Miltank: Stomp, Attract, Milk Drink, Rollout was submitted by Not_Mafia.
A: Dwlee99, Flea the Magician, jjh927
B: Roden, Faerie Mages
Not_Mafia, so assured of the superiority of Miltanks everywhere, didn't manage to submit a vote before he was mercilessly crushed under the magical might of frogs everywhere. He was:
TOWN
This is also the reason I find it hard to believe Faerie could be scum. Fighting Lich makes zero sense for scum to do unless theyreallybelieved I could stop their mis-elim.-
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Yes, I know, that's the problem here. I have to seriously think over the possibility of scum trying to NK themselves to save town from getting mis-elim'd.In post 849, jjh927 wrote:Ah, right, you're having a hard time believing either of them are scum but the only other players are me, you, and dwlee, and there are 2 scum
Because almost no one took this game seriously and there is very little content to work with.In post 852, jjh927 wrote:Why is NK speculation the only reason you TR faerie mages-
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No? The fighting mechanic is the only reason I even joined this game. I'm not gonna wait all game to have my turn at the fun gimmick just to get told to throw lol. It would also go against the spirit of the game, and everyone's been preaching how we shouldn't do that. If you think I'm scum then just vote me.In post 853, jjh927 wrote:I am pretty confident we're limming scum!Faerie today. If you are somehow town, I request that you throw the fight that you're going to have in the night in the interest of removing yourself from the game without a town loss.
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Dwlee and NM were both in my PoE.In post 844, jjh927 wrote:If you think scum would coordinate their votes in any way at all then look for strange votes
like, idk, people voting for the clearly Not Mafia option when they say they scumread Not Mafia-
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There hasn't been a quick hammer on you. Mechanically, you or JJH have to be scum here.
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Bad idea for multiple reasons. Flipping me is an auto loss for town, and if you think I'm scum then you're better off flipping my buddy and then trying to kill me in the fight tonight since I'm guaranteed to fight.In post 871, Dwlee99 wrote:I'd actually much rather flip roden then either faerie or jjh today I think?
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Any reason I couldn't be scum with either of them?In post 878, jjh927 wrote:Well, we've just ruled out a Flea/Dwlee scumteam so that's very cool-
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Don't see how we lose. If we elim scum today and it does turn out to be Faerie, I'm likely fighting you tonight if you're town. If I win the fight, you can't tunnel me in ELo, and instead I'm going into ELo with Flea at the very least, who doesn't scum read me. Worst case scenario, ELo is Flea/Dwlee/me and Dwlee is town and death tunnels me, and scum!Flea just quick hammers once Dwlee votes.In post 864, jjh927 wrote:Oh, and to reiterate for you, Roden-
Throwing the fight is absolutely not against the spirit of the game. There's no obligation to pick the strongest thing you can think of, or even something that you think could win. I am not telling you what to pick. Rather, from a perspective of the game of mafia, if you think your death would be beneficial to town then you should try to lose the fight. I am telling you, objectively, yourdeath is beneficial to town regardless of your alignment.Please go to whatever lengths you can to ensure you die tonight.If you are town, and you win the fight, we will literally lose the game as a result.
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Problem is that this largely applies to your fight as well. By your logic, you're coasting on winning the first fight. Technically you didn't even commit to voting out NK15, you cased him then backed off and tried to get Flea out instead.In post 861, jjh927 wrote:There are loads of reasons that scum could choose to put someone in a fight, and a large number of considerations that totally invalidate your reasoning.
-Wifom. You are townreading someone because they were in a fight with someone, hence you must be able to extrapolate there is value in it for scum. This being said, the only two people who are making the argument here are you and Faerie, which I feel furthers my point that scum would absolutely think they can try to get town points out of a fight.
-Risk management. If scum lose their fight, then it would be dangerous to have someone who would do a lot with being conftown as the winner. TL is kinda a clown.
-TL is kinda a clown. It could have been predicted he would pick some obscure thing that people wouldn't care about.
-There weren't any widely townread players who could have been chosen at that time at all. Scum could have picked anyone.
In post 328, Jingle wrote:A HAMMMER!
You know what they say: "Turnabout is fair play." Not Known 15 has been torn apart by hyenas. They were:
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I mean, you've had zero suspicion thrown at you Day 2 onwards. Also I've definitely been trying to solve since the start so idk what you're talking about there.In post 896, jjh927 wrote:Am I coasting on winning the first fight? Half the time I've felt like I'm the only one playing the game
Wrong for multiple reasons. I've been wanting to fight for awhile and feel confident that I could win. Additionally, you assume I have associatives and that I can't possibly have just had an incorrect town read. Does my progression on Faerie look fake to you?In post 900, jjh927 wrote:
Looking through FM's iso and I seem to have missed a questionIn post 886, Faerie Mages wrote:Mage: What happened to your Flea SR, jjh?
It evaporated. You are lockscum, both in terms of play and now mechanically as you would have been hammered if you were town. I thought it was most likely that only one of you and Flea was scum, but wasn't ruling out a team. However, Roden has all the associatives in the world with you and if town almost certainly would not have been the last person to fight.
If town chooses not to solve in ELo and instant votes me then we kinda deserve to lose. There's literally zero way you can spin town instant voting in ELo as my fault.In post 901, jjh927 wrote:
I passed over this because I didn't think it was worth responding to given your reluctance, but no, it isIn post 893, Roden wrote:
Don't see how we lose. If we elim scum today and it does turn out to be Faerie, I'm likely fighting you tonight if you're town. If I win the fight, you can't tunnel me in ELo, and instead I'm going into ELo with Flea at the very least, who doesn't scum read me. Worst case scenario, ELo is Flea/Dwlee/me and Dwlee is town and death tunnels me, and scum!Flea just quick hammers once Dwlee votes.In post 864, jjh927 wrote:Oh, and to reiterate for you, Roden-
Throwing the fight is absolutely not against the spirit of the game. There's no obligation to pick the strongest thing you can think of, or even something that you think could win. I am not telling you what to pick. Rather, from a perspective of the game of mafia, if you think your death would be beneficial to town then you should try to lose the fight. I am telling you, objectively, yourdeath is beneficial to town regardless of your alignment.Please go to whatever lengths you can to ensure you die tonight.If you are town, and you win the fight, we will literally lose the game as a result.
Basically we only lose if town plays impulsively, which I don't expect anyone here to do.
It's not about impulsive play. It's about how you are the CLEAR partner to scum!Faerie. Do you not see how absurdly obvious the associatives are at every level here? This goes beyond a kneejerk reaction; my death will not and absolutely should not mean you avoid getting limmed. If you are alive next day phase, you should be the lim with no questions asked. That's not an impulse play. That's just a correct play based on where we would find ourselves.
Unfortunately for you, you have a scum role PM and so throwing the fight would mean you just lose-
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Explain why it's fake.In post 920, jjh927 wrote:
YesIn post 919, Roden wrote:Does my progression on Faerie look fake to you?
Name two reasons why you think Faerie is town
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Would still like for Dwlee to respond to this.In post 851, Roden wrote:
Dwlee I'm pretty sure you know by now that it isn't in my scum range to openly buddy up with my partner. I also don't set up my scum buddy against Lich ever, I was the only one town reading that slot and they were pretty obviously going to get mis-elim'd if they had survived their fight. If anything, it would've been optimal for me to bus Faerie there since nobody expects scum to NK themselves.In post 820, Dwlee99 wrote:In post 331, Jingle wrote:Fighter A: Batman with six months prep time was submitted by jjh927.
Fighter B: A bear made of metal. was submitted by a disinterested party on behalf of PookyTheMagicalBear, who failed to submit a fighter on time.
A: Faerie Mages, Radical Rat, Not_Mafia, Roden, jjh927, Flea the Magician, Temporal Lich, Enchant
B: Dwlee99, PookytheMagicalBear, Firebringer,
The bear made of metal lies cold and dead, as does Pooky, it's master. Pooky was:
TOWNIn post 612, Jingle wrote:Fighter A: Natsuki Subaru in the Ayamatsu IF Timeline was submitted by Firebringer.
Fighter B: Incorporeal voices whispering dad jokes endlessly was submitted by Flea the Magician.
A: Galron, jjh927, Firebringer
B: TemporalLich, Dwlee99, Not_Mafia, Roden, Radical Rat, Flea the Magician, Faerie Mages
"What do you call a deer with no eyes? No idear."
"Why aren't previous generations of ants called antcestors?"
"Did you know that the person who invented the Merry-Go-Round and the person who invented the Ferris Wheel never actually met each other? They just travelled in different circles."
"What do we want?
Time travel.
When do we want it?
That’s irrelevant."
You know what? Fuck this. I'm out. Natsuki Subaru has given up on the fight, taking Firebringer with him. Firebringer was:
TOWNIn post 669, Jingle wrote:Fighter A: Isabelle from Animal Crossing with Doom Guy was submitted by Faerie Mages.
Fighter B: Supreme Calamitas was submitted by TemporalLich.
A: jjh927, Dwlee99, Not_Mafia, Roden, Flea the Magician, Faerie Mages
B: TemporalLich, Galron
I'd prepared a longwinded commentary of the epic battle, but unfortunately wasn't able to provide it due to a lack of oxygen. Supreme Calamitas suffered a supreme calamity, taking TemporalLich along for the ride. TemporalLich was:
TOWN
Roden/Faerie have voted together every timeIn post 807, Jingle wrote:Fighter A: Giant frog with magic and opposable thumbs was submitted by Dwlee99.
Fighter B: Whitney's Miltank: Stomp, Attract, Milk Drink, Rollout was submitted by Not_Mafia.
A: Dwlee99, Flea the Magician, jjh927
B: Roden, Faerie Mages
Not_Mafia, so assured of the superiority of Miltanks everywhere, didn't manage to submit a vote before he was mercilessly crushed under the magical might of frogs everywhere. He was:
TOWN
This is also the reason I find it hard to believe Faerie could be scum. Fighting Lich makes zero sense for scum to do unless theyreallybelieved I could stop their mis-elim.-
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It isn't a self meta. But if you disagree then you're free to show examples of me open wolfing and hard defending my scum team.In post 930, Dwlee99 wrote:I disagree with your self meta and it's kinda irrelevant now that it's confirmed for me that faerie is scum-
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Was gonna say this but yeah, Flea has to either think you and Dwlee are the team or me and Faerie are the team. There aren't really any other options. Unless they're getting bussed I guess.In post 927, jjh927 wrote:It's actually simpler than that
From your POV I would have to be scum with Dwlee-
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This is factually untrue. I was the only one openly town reading Lich, I had the least to gain from putting them up and then voting for them to lose the fight. They would've been both pocketed and a mis-elim option if I were scum and they were still alive in ELo. If I'm scum, the best option is to put them up against NM since they'd have the best chance to survive vs literally anyone else.In post 931, Dwlee99 wrote:I actually don't think there's anyone that can't make the same argument you did about not putting TL up, for instance.-
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Idk. One of you could be bussing.In post 934, Dwlee99 wrote:Dude I literally don't care if you're scum or not today
Do you think JJH and I are a team or not
In post 934, Dwlee99 wrote:Dude I literally don't care if you're scum or not today
Do you think JJH and I are a team or not
That's not what I'm being accused of though? For me to be scum with Faerie I'd have to be hard defending my partner, intentionally killing my pocket right before ELo, and refuse to bus in ELo even though Faerie has been looking like the pretty clear elim all of today. Like that just doesn't make any senseIn post 935, Dwlee99 wrote:
How is out of anyone's scum range to just... Do things with their partner and townread them. It's like the MathBlade newbie method to play scumIn post 932, Roden wrote:
It isn't a self meta. But if you disagree then you're free to show examples of me open wolfing and hard defending my scum team.In post 930, Dwlee99 wrote:I disagree with your self meta and it's kinda irrelevant now that it's confirmed for me that faerie is scum-
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Saying my scum buddy is probably town on Day 1 in the Newbie queue is not even close to what I'm being accused of today lmao.In post 937, Dwlee99 wrote:
And here is you trying to frame your buddy as being in a TvT...In post 423, Roden wrote:Margot, Val, you're most likely both town and this back and forth is just gonna make a great cover for scum to hide in. Can you two please call a truce for now so we can figure out what the fuck is going on with Cook ingame, not whatever her intentions were in a scum PT in a completely different game from a month ago?this
PE: Thank you.
Then you're most likely scum tbh.In post 938, Dwlee99 wrote:
I just don't find it convincing sorryIn post 936, Roden wrote:
This is factually untrue. I was the only one openly town reading Lich, I had the least to gain from putting them up and then voting for them to lose the fight. They would've been both pocketed and a mis-elim option if I were scum and they were still alive in ELo. If I'm scum, the best option is to put them up against NM since they'd have the best chance to survive vs literally anyone else.In post 931, Dwlee99 wrote:I actually don't think there's anyone that can't make the same argument you did about not putting TL up, for instance.-
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In post 943, Dwlee99 wrote:Do you actually think you couldn't play a scum game where you defend your partner and vote with them?
You keep simplifying my actions. : /In post 944, Dwlee99 wrote:Like how am I supposed to find that even remotely convincing...
Why do you believe I NK my pocket and have them fight my scum buddy?
OOFIn post 945, Dwlee99 wrote:And I just got out of a game where koba was like "oh I can't be scum cause why would I night kill someone that townread me" and "how could I be scum when I made this post hard defending the flipped scum"
And then Datisi actually bought that hard defending their partner was town-indicative and voted me to lose in ELO lol
Datisi has real bad luck with Koba in ELo. Kinda evil to do that to him again after Mini 2239.
Addressing the point though, I'm not Koba. Koba is gutsy and can make convincing plays like that, I'm not. I can't really say I'd never do that since it might be considered a trust tell, but yeah I'd at least play it differently.
I do think you're town telling with this post though. I think you're trying too hard to make me fit in the scum team, but tonally you've been pretty town. How much do you trust JJH?-
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So let's say Faerie is scum and you win the fight against me and I flip town. ELo is you/Dwlee/Flea. Do you just instant vote Flea then?In post 960, jjh927 wrote:You've expressed trouble believing either of them could be scum for ages and now you're worried people aren't thinking they could both be scum?
Predictable and survivalistic because you want to have a chance at winning in the next day phase-
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