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I confirm having received the PM with the roles.
I will soon read the roles (and the setup) and see if my little monkey brain can comprehend everything or if I need to request an urgent meeting with the national assembly of the democratic republic of apes to select the members of a delegation who will then convene with the mod for further clarifications
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Do you mean IRL? Or on MS? (In other words, are you this player: memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=24426 ?)In post 14, Lady Chloe wrote:I am best known by the name of Taly.
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Wait until the game gets going..In post 19, T3 wrote:Hi I now understand the setup
I mean, it's easy to think one has got a hold of it all, but once everyone starts doing their own stuff you'll find out it wasn't as easy as you think.
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Also for this reason (and this reason alone) I have decided to cut down the meme'ing to a min. I don't want everyone to hate me, because .. Jingle has put on his best effort yet to confuse the shit out of everyone else,
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That's good to knowIn post 24, Lady Chloe wrote:
MS. Taly is my main account.In post 21, Almost50 wrote:
Do you mean IRL? Or on MS? (In other words, are you this player: memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=24426 ?)In post 14, Lady Chloe wrote:I am best known by the name of Taly.
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Oh, I wasn't even referncing anything close. It was good to know because I think I know your play is what I meant
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ATTENTION: PLEASE READ CAREFULLY
NOT SURE IF THIS THE OPTIMAL PLAY, BUT I SOLVED GAME 3
SCUM ARE HOUSE/DUNN/RR/RCE (I promise NOT ONE is wrong). I'll even go as far as telling you that RCE is Ben, RR is Alisson, Dunn is in Reginald/Luther/Diego and House is Reginald/Luther/Diego
Note: One of Reginald/Luther/Diego is -obviously- a Mason, and I know "the player" and suspect it's Diego, but regardless.. we need not specify which player holds which anonymous alt. All wee need to do is VOTE OUT SCUM
Pros of my move:We now have a pool of 4 to eliminate on D1. Since the D1 lim seems to have to be on the same player on all 3 games; we need to make sure they're scum in at least one game
Cons of my move:Well, I'll be dead in Game 3. Not actually a "con" per se because (a) it gives me more time to concentrate on the other 2 games and (b) EVEN if all 4 Masons are dead the remaining 5 Townies can still win it for us.
Which brings me back to the PROS actually. If we lim outside this pool we are risking Scum potentially winning the game via killing the Masons and thus achieving parity.
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Oh, another pro: No other Mason needs to be outed. EVERYONE should be voting one of these 4
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Thank youIn post 48, Amy Dunne wrote:These are the same names Jingle used in his secret alt game.
Did you notice that I claimed MASON? This means I am a member of the Scum/Masons thread and I know the 8 members of the Hargreaves family (as I'm one of them).
RCE & RR both made a severe mistake by posting in said thread and the main thread almost simultaneously. RR even did it twice. If you wish to remain anonymous you need to post in the main thread at a certain time and in the anon thread on a totally different time, or -at the very least- make sure the main thread is active enough when you use the anon thread so you can't be singled out as the one and only player active at the time. (Sorry if you think it's a dirty trick, but all is fair in War and Mafia)
I won't say how I found out about House & Dunn yet, but I am still confident there too.
P-edit: THANK YOU Ircher for actually reacting to my revelation.
P-edit 2: Beetlejuice much? @House
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Must be an elephant's arse to come up with not one, not 2, but ALL FOUR Scums in the game.In post 57, House wrote:It's A50, not the first time I've seen him pull a hero solve out of his ass on d1.
At least you didn't POST in that thread as you came in.
BUT .. you did login to Reginald.
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So, now Dunn needs to actually read this FIRST before he goes to his anon account to have a chance to fight back.
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Mate, you already are caught. YOU LOGGED INTO YOUR LUTHER ACCOUNT. Before you did it was "Last Visited on 27 Nov".In post 61, House wrote:A50, you should know better than most that the only time I'm afraid of being run up is as town.
My scum games is stronk. It's my villa game that sucks.
VOTE: House
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YES, and I picked the perfect setup to do it too. The one setup where there are THREE OTHER MASONS who can confirm me.In post 66, RCEnigma wrote:....I have to dive into this but I think you're scum telling before gamestart.
Listen, we can ALL out.. all four of us, and Town still wins that game. The beauty of it is if you guys shoot us we only die in that game too, so if you're Town in the other 2 games it's a safe route to take.
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Is it. Mr Ben Hargreaves?In post 70, RCEnigma wrote:Ughhhhh I wanna townread this but it's all so antitown
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I outed FOUR scums in ONE game. I didn't know which of you to vote and didn't have a preference, so I was always going to vote on the first wagon that forms on any of the 4In post 71, House wrote:Good job finally mustering the balls to vote, though.
I was wondering what was taking you so long.
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You can do that on your own account and alts, but how were you going to change the settings of an alt that has been given to you without you first LOGGING TO IT. Like, EVEN if you change the settings now, I already checked all 7 accounts (other than mine), so a change in settings is still very telling.In post 73, House wrote:Also, I stay on private to avoid that very asshattery, A50, so you're talking out your ass.
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I INVITE EVERYONE TO CHECK THE LUTHER HARGREAVES Account. Go to members (at the top right corner of your screen) then pick L then order by post count (just to make it easier for you to find the account) and it currently has 252 posts.
I mean. I could have saved you all the trouble and simply linked it here, except I am not sure if that is allowed and I don't want to get in trouble over a mere technicality
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As I said:In post 76, RCEnigma wrote:On one hand it's so rolephishy (I guess alt in this case) because any of the slots in that Poe could slip trying to defend themselves and outing themselves as VT.
RCE is Ben Hargreeves
House is Luther Hargreeves
Radical Rat is Allison Hargreeves
And that leaves us with Dunn as either Reginald Hargreeves or Diego Hargreaves
Now EVERYBODY can check said accounts and compare the times. Since you're doing it from your own account you won't even need to change settings or do time calculations. EASY.
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They do, and I did explain it. I needed to guarantee a SCUM FLIP on ANY of the games on D1. After that all 3 games take their separate ways, and we can play as usual (well, almost as usual, because someone could roll Scum in one setup and a TPR on another). It would suck though if we flipped someone who had rolled Town in all three games.In post 78, RCEnigma wrote:So the other two games don't matter then?
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EXACTLY! And the ONLY way Scum could have reacted here was to "block vote me" so as to look like they are the Masons, but then either my Masons buddioes will interfere, or I will flip and they're caught with their pants down (all four of them).In post 82, Ircher wrote:Almost50 will sort himself just by outing himself as mason.
Now they need to KILL ME, but they are also afraid of that too, because my flip confirms me as a Mason, and thus ....
Give them some time to figure out a way to get out of this (hint: There isn't one)
Also, you picking House of the four tells me you're not Scum with House in either of the other 2 setups (which was part of why I didn't pick one myself. I wanted to see who votes whom first, and who defends whom, who stays silent.. etc.)
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1- You're SCUM (in Setup 3)In post 88, RCEnigma wrote:Fair to assume but I'm familiar with A50 Gambit play (which I assume this to be)
2- You're BAD at reading me in general (just refer yourself to the most recent 2-3 games)
3- YOU ARE CAUFGHT SCUM IN SETUP 3
4- If I was gambit'ing I would have done it in NOT THE OPEN SETUP
5- Did I mention you're just outed scum??
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And how would I know about the Hargreaves accounts? And how would I know RCE & RR posted in that thread? Nice try though.In post 91, House wrote:I'm thinking he's VT fishing for a day kill attempt.
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In post 99, Amy Dunne wrote:
It would probably be easier if you link it.In post 92, Almost50 wrote:I INVITE EVERYONE TO CHECK THE LUTHER HARGREAVES Account. Go to members (at the top right corner of your screen) then pick L then order by post count (just to make it easier for you to find the account) and it currently has 252 posts.
I mean. I could have saved you all the trouble and simply linked it here, except I am not sure if that is allowed and I don't want to get in trouble over a mere technicality
@Mod:Am I allowed to link the Hargreaves accounts in this thread?
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Now if I didn't know better.In post 110, mastina wrote:VOTE: MegAzumarill
HURT: Ircher
I have more fosses than these two, but, phoneposting.
There's zero way that these two are town in all three games so eliminating one of them is guaranteed to advance the town wincon in at least one game.
Did you roll Scum with House in setup 1 or 2??
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Let me simplify it for your "Water Rat" little mind.In post 112, MegAzumarill wrote:Ooooh we got double voter>
Also I don't follow any of what A50 is saying, other than they apprantly have found the entire mafia on n0 in game 3.
I am a MASON on setup 3. There are 4 Masons and 4 Scums in that setup. They ALL share one PT .. all 8 of them. Right?
Now if you login with your provided alt (if you had one, that is) and checked the PT you'd see Bingle used all accounts to do an ego post for each. These were all done on Nov 27. Yes? Now WHO posted after that (TODAY)?? Alison, Ben, Ben and Alison. Now check the time of the first Alison post and compare it to the one of RR in here (their first post where they said "FIRST"). Also compare the time of their second post (almost 18 hours later) and compare it to their pots in this thread.
Now RCE (ben) posted twice but these were 2 minutes apart. Compare the time to that of his first post in this thread. You can also look for posts before and after his in this thread to see if it could've been someone else.
As for House, the account remained unused since Nov 27 until he showed up in this thread. Only then did the "last logged in" field change to Nov 30.
Dunn was obviously the smartest of the 4. He didn't even login to his alt (yet). There are two accounts that haven't been used since Nov 27. He is one of them.
So, I caught the Scum team in setup 3 by comparing post timestamps, being around (and refreshing periodically) to notice any change in "last login" times and/or account settings.
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I don't get it. Why am I Town in the other 2 games? I haven't even started playing in either (I mean, theoretically I am playing in all three, but practically I've been only focused on Game 3 and haven't posted anything AI regarding the other 2).In post 127, mastina wrote:BTW right now, I think that A50 and Lady Chloe. (Taly) are town in all three games.
Also, why aren't you voting one of the 4 scums of game 3? What IS the plan here? I know you have one, but I can't imagine what it may be. If we vote anyone NOT in these 4 we are risking (a) outing another Mason on game 3, OR (b) killing a VT (which makes the game winnable to Scum by shooting all 4 Masons at once.). Killing one of these 4 ensures EVEN if they shot ALL masons the 5 VTs will win the game for us. (I obviously can't tell what is what yet in the other 2 setups machanically-wise because "not enough information")
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I REALLY don't care which one of them 4 gets eliminated first. It's all the same to me. Whichever accumulates more votes I will also vote.In post 130, Amy Dunne wrote:
Should I be switching to RCE then?In post 118, Almost50 wrote:
1- You're SCUM (in Setup 3)In post 88, RCEnigma wrote:Fair to assume but I'm familiar with A50 Gambit play (which I assume this to be)
2- You're BAD at reading me in general (just refer yourself to the most recent 2-3 games)
3- YOU ARE CAUFGHT SCUM IN SETUP 3
4- If I was gambit'ing I would have done it in NOT THE OPEN SETUP
5- Did I mention you're just outed scum??
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And how would I know who is scum in the other 2 games on D1?? I don't do gut reads, and I suck at reading tones. I am not exactly an expert in meta either (although I do use it, but only to an extent). My strong suit is MECHANICAL solves, AND "thinking outside the box", which is what I did. Not everyone compares timestamps and not everyone opens 7 profiles and refresh them periodically, and only closes one when they've decided who is behind the anonymous account. (It was even harder in a previous game run by Boonskies, because the 3rd game cam after the other 2 have frinished, so I had to compare login times of mains to posting times of alts AND to "writing-style" hunt. The thing is I was Scum and we could only kill a player if we guessed their main)In post 136, T3 wrote:While I do strongly think house is scum, the optimal mechanical play is to look for people in your group who re also scum in other games.
So, I can assure you I am an expert in alt-hunting IF (and ONLY IF) given a list of a matching number of mains. (example: 10 mains vs 10 alts). Otherwise I also suck at alt-hunting in general.
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I am assuming you mean Dwlee?? (Hard to think of another name that gets autocorrected to Delete)In post 140, mastina wrote:BTW T3 and Delete MIGHT be town in all three games, hard to tell for sure.
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Because you didn't THINK of THAT before you did. I'm sure you will be more careful in any subsequent game played simultaneously with both your main and an anonymous alt.In post 144, RCEnigma wrote:I'm fairly sure my posting I. The maf/mason thread would out my main. Sure I could alter my style to avoid this. But if I was willing to do that why wouldn't I go to the trouble of hiding my online presence? Ofr ust not posting to the main thread?
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THANKSIn post 153, Jingle wrote:In post 129, Almost50 wrote:@Mod: Am I allowed to link the Hargreaves accounts in this thread?There is absolutely nothing in my rules about the usage of user tags being banned. Nor about linking to other sections of the site, so long as they are not ongoing games. (or other things that site rules say you can't link, I guess, but I don't know of any of those.)
So..
RCE is Ben
House is Luther
RR is Allison
Dunn is Reginald or Diego (The other one is a Mason, obviously)
I am Klaus
"Someone" is Five (I know who that is and can confirm they're a Mason)
"Another someone" is Vanya (I also know who that is and can confirm they're a Mason)
So that leaves the last Mason as one of Rig/Diego
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Playing "less than smart" isn't becoming of you, mate. Come on.In post 154, House wrote:Even so, they still have to pick a target or they forfeit their kill for the day, no?
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How about amazingly useless?In post 158, T3 wrote:I'm trying to decide whether meta is amazing or completely useless in this game.
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Because no "other person" was online??In post 163, MegAzumarill wrote:Ah, that doesn't seem super convincing though why couldn't it be a different person online?
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BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... THEY DID IT! THANKS FOR PLAYING. Now whatcha gonna do to shut me up??In post 169, Jingle wrote:BANG! BANG!
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He was: A Cheeky Monkey.
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VOTE: RCE
I forgot that in this mechanic the votes are reset after a flip.
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Because he had no posts. Like, BOTH the accounts that I have yet to link to a player were showing last visit as 27 Nov (now Diego has changed settings, but has claimed Scum), so Dunn is Diego, and "the third someone" is ReginaldIn post 178, Dwlee99 wrote:A50 I don't understand why you're convinced dunn is the fourth one from no posts
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Oh, right!In post 182, Dunnstral wrote:Your vote only counts in the first and second games so you should not do that
UNVOTE:
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I am still here though. I can even post in that PT if I want to (as per the rules) I just didn't and probably won't because I didn't/don't feel like it.In post 184, MegAzumarill wrote:Also an F to Almost50 you will be missed.
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I am out of that game, and I'm happy with that. I also stand by everything I said and have provided my reasoning.In post 187, RCEnigma wrote:A50 youre putting me between a rock and a hard place. I literally cannot defend without hurting town inside and outside of the open setup. If I go down here I'd look at my votes as likely red in more than 1 setup.
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Also, this is the 3rd time straight you call me scum when I'm Town. I know you were Town in the last 2, so it really doesn't do you any favours either way you want to tell the story.In post 187, RCEnigma wrote:A50 youre putting me between a rock and a hard place. I literally cannot defend without hurting town inside and outside of the open setup. If I go down here I'd look at my votes as likely red in more than 1 setup.
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THIS IS A SCUM CLAIM IN MY BOOK. IF RCE was Town, my PoE looks like a pile of BS. Why would anyone vote House if RCE flips Town as he claims to be?In post 191, RCEnigma wrote:I almost called house town in A50s Poe. He's the next elim after mine 100%
I kind of skipped over the fact scum had to actively be around to make the shot.
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Who are "We"??In post 200, MegAzumarill wrote:According to A50's judgement we are aligned in Game C too!
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I can tunnel you in the other 2 games still.In post 203, Radical Rat wrote:@A50
You're wrong about at least me, and while I obviously can't speak for the others, I have no idea where you got Dunn, considering he hasn't logged into the account yet, so... Yeah, I'm inclined to think this is just one of your wacky gambits.
On the bright side, I can't tunnel you over it this time since you already flipped!
VOTE: RR
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Also, this just hit me: WHY would scum shoot me if House was Town there? Why not wait for the "mislim" to go through and THEN shoot the outed Mason?
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So, I was wrong about at least you, huh??In post 229, Jingle wrote:BANG! BANG!
Radical Rat has DIED in the Open Game.
He was: A Radical Rat.
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This means Scum now know of at least ONE VT (This is for the less than familiar players of setup 3)In post 303, Almost50 wrote:
So, I was wrong about at least you, huh??In post 229, Jingle wrote:BANG! BANG!
Radical Rat has DIED in the Open Game.
He was: A Radical Rat.
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The other two games can hold for now. Game 3 has a lower threshold as we speak, so you can go ahead and execute House or RCE without ending the day in the other 2 games. I am giving Dunn a break here because if one Mason didn't use the alt account despite having posted in this thread then maybe one scum did the same. That's the ONE WEAK READ of my solve of that game.In post 237, Lady Chloe wrote:Almost50, should I humor your intentions for the other two games?
BUT.. if you have something to point out in the other games then please do.. I'mlisteningreading
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Why are you posting this here instead of using the alts PT?In post 240, Radical Rat wrote:For my buddies though: mastina was who I attempted to shoot, so cross her off your mason lists.
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No. I brain-farted and thought that I was still voting for game 3. MY BAD.In post 255, Radical Rat wrote:
You know that doesn't apply to game 3 since we're dead, right? Or do you think RCE's scum in the others too?In post 252, Almost50 wrote:VOTE: RCE
I forgot that in this mechanic the votes are reset after a flip.
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In what way? I don't think I saw anything alarming from you.. yetIn post 260, Lady Chloe wrote:Do I concern you, Almost50?
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Well, I think I'm going to have to wait for the next VC then. If he flips he flips (and especially soIn post 266, Ircher wrote:It might be too late. Enigma got a lotta votes.ifwhen he does flip red in the open)
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Because if he dies in the first 2 games because of my vote then he dies in the Open without it.
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the Open doesn't even "lock". It's NIGHTLESS. Again, I am not liking this and think you are feigning ignorance in that particular game.In post 268, Dunnstral wrote:My understanding is that once a hammer is achieved, votes for that game will lock, and then the night phase will only start once all 3 have locked
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In post 270, Jingle wrote:BANG! BANG!
House has DIED in the Open Game.
He was: Not Wake88.
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I certainly did have BAD reads there. Like, hypothically speaking, if I was WRONG on BOTH RCE & Dunn I still got 2/4 ON DAY FUCKING ONE!
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First vote is in all games, then second only applies where the player is alive. RR/House (and myself) are already dead in the Open, so voting someone who is alive in that game then voting one of us 3 locks your vote in the open to the living player and your vote in the other two is on one of RR/House/A50 (whichever you decided to vote after your voted for your intended target in the Open)In post 280, Lady Chloe wrote:I do not know what the split votes are going for.
Does the first vote go for A, and second go for B? What about C?
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I can't. First, I am not scum with you in that game. Second, who can guarantee that you are telling the truth? Like, RR could have shot mastina, OR he could have lied about it. This is why I asked why he said it in the main thread. Unless I misunderstand, dead players can still post in the alts PTIn post 289, House wrote:
Respond to 283 please.In post 288, Almost50 wrote:
THIS IS A SCUM CLAIM IN MY BOOK. IF RCE was Town, my PoE looks like a pile of BS. Why would anyone vote House if RCE flips Town as he claims to be?In post 191, RCEnigma wrote:I almost called house town in A50s Poe. He's the next elim after mine 100%
I kind of skipped over the fact scum had to actively be around to make the shot.
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Are you drunk?? WHERE did I say that you were Scum in game 3?In post 291, MegAzumarill wrote:Me and RCE
I gotta head to sleep hopefully scum shoot themselves to death before I return
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*Sigh*
So TWO scums were smart enough not to make that mistake. I guess I should retire while I'm ahead, huh?
Later..
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Actually, mastina is smart enough (and it explains why RR said he shot her in public). There's also the fact she didn't vote House when everybody was going for him. In fact I would rather her over Dunn now, but -as I said- I should be sound asleep already, so see you in a few hours (my definition of few is between 8 and 20)
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