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[Enchant]

Why hello.

Is there's even mechanism to prevent too many scum? For example 10+ mafia members if RNG is insane enough. For now statistically, around of half of town is scum here.

I think claiming "Faction" dice rolls is safe but somewhat useless. Mine is 4 which i fudged down, and got 1 instead. Not claiming others yet.
Fearing about PR is useless, because there's only 1/20 chance to not being PR. I assume everyone have PR, unless unlucky.

[Enchant]

@encant

Ok carus69

[Enchant]

Actually valid point.
Jester is scum.

Therefory, in Elo he will simple vote self and allow to be hammered, thus ending game. So it does benefit to kill Jester d1 to reduce ammount (or shot him, but if you can shot him why not execute and then shot someone else i wonder).

[Enchant]

I don't think faking alignment dice is too hard, scum must be totally incompetent to unable do that, and if so, i think we should find them anyway.

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Cult is danger for everyone imo, it's like rabbits replicating at impressive temps. Issue is, it's almost impossible to hunt lone cult leader, especially d1 so probably should't even bother.

Idk if scum motivated enough to keep cult alive.

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Also, I'm someone that rolled a 20 on my alignment die and fudged it to make myself town.

Blatant lies

[Enchant]

"Simple"

No doubt.

[Enchant]

Yeah Simple on the modifier die is a big woof for me. Finder is also situationally pretty weak on the role die.

@Reg, why are you so concerned specifically with Enchant's alignment die? Seems like a weird thing to latch on to

Eh, maybe I misread Enchant, but they basically said they had a low alignment roll and fudged that down.

Yeah, and?

[Enchant]

Yes.

I don't understand what is wrong.

[Enchant]

Oh i just realised what you mean.

Yeah, i rolled 4 on alignment and tried to roll it down to 20, but got 1 instead.

[Enchant]

I can't see chain in logic between trusting cyrus and me. Help.

[Enchant]

Oh i just realised what you mean.

Yeah, i rolled 4 on alignment and tried to roll it down to 20, but got 1 instead.

This seems odd like you guys were discussing it. Idk encant I kinda thought you were town.

Misunderstanding. Pretty common.

[Enchant]

The answer to my queston to what I think is the worse mod is. Odd or even night it makes the role basically useless..

Not in mood to argue, but disagree.

I kinda think dw could be 3dr party or some kinda scum faction this game hence his lack of post. Feels like he's basicly avoiding posting..

It's... Pretty interesting choice of words honestly.

[Enchant]

I don't remember dwlee as active player regardless of alignment.

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He believed i wasted my roll uselessly, because i already recieved low number on alignment roll and rolling it even more down didn't make sense for him.

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Imo considering you can roll out from scum at any position (really, 13-20 results, there's no number where it's impossible to fudge dice at town if you wish, but yeah maybe hard if too long way). Also, you have only 22% (or so) chance to actually roll town without any chance to reroll other alignment (5, 6, 7 and 8).

So i think best to look out for players who enjoy to play as scum, because they more likely fudged dice to get alignment they like and protect players who hate to play as them. But it's... yeah wine and such.

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I can't understend Reg logic after rereading his posts.

He votes me, for wasting fudge, he apologises and unvotes after clearing that and then again accuses me for reason i can't comprehend, but doesh't vote.

[Enchant]

I kinda want explaination of this from him, and then think should i vote here.

[Enchant]

Alright that's pretty long.

VOTE: Reg
Still waiting.

[Enchant]

Now i want vote Loftwing instead. Why you didn't vote early if you disagree?

[Enchant]

UNVOTE:

No quickhammers (expect for me).

[Enchant]

I just noticed we have less than 24 hours.

Well. I possible cannot be here all time.

Reg

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VOTE: Reg

Imao screwed up. That's E-1.

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The bitch that roleblocked me can stay in the werk room.

Could it be possible you targeted person who killed Dunnstral-Ascteticizer and thus now roleblock every not-NK visit? Or it doesh't work at same night?

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The bitch that roleblocked me can stay in the werk room.

Could it be possible you targeted person who killed Dunnstral-Ascteticizer and thus now roleblock every not-NK visit? Or it doesh't work at same night?

Go ahead and full claim now please.

Me?

[Enchant]

wait till day three damn it.

No.

I. Have. A. Guilty. Result. On. Enchant.

You fucking sure? Because after, i will not accept "this was bait" or something other. Faking guilty not cool.

[Enchant]

Is this yes or no?

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Well, then you probably should take rest in nearest grave, not running around, because i am Town Paranoid Gun Owner. Miracle? Doctor save? Or probably Bulletproof. Only possible reasons you breath.
Oh right, you just pulled randomguilty and didn't visit me.

VOTE: Bingle

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Why you asking me for claim if you already know i am "not town" then?

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Sadly i think no one will side me in this one, so i should ask ya to vote Bingle after i die and flip Town PGO. Or better shot him.

Either he jester or suicidal maf/whatever.

[Enchant]

You forgot to vote me.

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4>1, 7, 14.

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It doesn't prove anything ffs.

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Substract.


Sadly mod disallowed rampaging PGO, because "not compatible".

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Sigh. For Cyruses.

IROLLED4ONALIGNMENTTHENSUBSTRACTEDTO1.4-3=1.ONE.

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Bruh

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I am not sure if Cyrus is just genius troll or... Cyrus.

[Enchant]

Actually i gave tip i have powerful role by posting i fudged my alignment (which is truth, duh), and planned to claim Doubled Parity Cop, so i can get killed or visited by other evil role.
Imo, if i roll pgo why i should just claim it and render useless?

About why Bingle could lie:
1. Jester. Regardless of D1 jester claim, i never would do that, Bingle possible too. Reason is simple. It's boring. Randomaccuse mostly works fine in damaging town and getting win as well.
2. He is other scum and believed i am scum, so can be pushed for townpoints. I am not sure what plan he having when i flip town.
3. He is scum and we are in plenty bad situation where scum could get majority so soon, but fairly it's very unlikely.

There's no way i was framed or something, because everyone visiting me will die, so Bingle is scum for almost sure, or are brilliant town logic.

[Enchant]

I gived it good though (wasted 10 mins) and i realised, there's no way Bingle will be killed before me, and even if will, there's no benefit for me because i will be dead as well and so can't kill more ppls (which is my lifegoal).

I am Actual Cannibal, Shia LaBeouf which translates in Serial Killer Paranoid Gun Owner. I actually substracted from 4 and hit 20. Kyouko is my NK (so techically i didn't commit any crimes cuz cult doesh't have human rights).
My second role roll was Complex Serial Killer (actually i rolled Complex Vigilante, but SK can't be Vigilante here), but i obviously didn't choose it.
It means Bingle check is actually right, but why the hell is he alive after using ability on me. Maybe healed, maybe some nasty scum lying idk.

Because of possible amount scum against town here, and my wish to survive this mess as long as possible, i can offer my ability to blast everything to town use for now. I am basically Vigilante who hardly will die at night.

UNVOTE:
Your win for now, duh.

[Enchant]

Didn't expect other reaction.

Still, bad idea to speedelim me, give it thought.

[Enchant]

Yes, he does.

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I think Cult is last threat you should think. At worst it's lone cultist who most likely can't kill, at best convert failed.

[Enchant]

I think Cult is last threat you should think. At worst it's lone cultist who most likely can't kill, at best convert failed.

True. It was more a talking point while we wait for people to check in than a serious desire to eliminate STD. I had been thinking that equivalently scummy slots could be resolved in order of likelihood of recruitment, but the weird cult resolution makes that moot.

If we do leash you, who do you like for scum?

Hard question actually, i am not good scumreader. Loftwing/STD/Quiet Owl most likely contain scum. STD here is just for policy though, could be town.

... Actually it's you supposed to make calls here, and i follow them i quess.

[Enchant]

... Actually it's you supposed to make calls here, and i follow them i quess.

Honestly your POV on who might be scum is probably more valuable than mine to the thread at large. You are a known quantity. You want to convince town that you are useful enough to keep around instead of eliminating you and reducing the KPN. Theoretically I could be a scum bloodhound who just so happened to find scum of another flavor and outed the guilty because I was unconcerned about getting NK'd myself and desperately wanted the towncred (which doesn't really make any sense, but is theoretically a thing I could be doing).

Additionally, if you're lying about being SK and are actually groupscum you scumhunting now could potentially give us clues about possible partners.

Makes sense and that's exactly what i thought when you found me.

I targeted Kyouko because she was on first place in your reads and also having anime pfp. So probably it's just dumb luck, because i didn't really intent to kill Cult Leader.

[Enchant]

I do not trust enchant bingel or west at this point.

Do you think i plan to backstab or something?

[Enchant]

I do not trust enchant bingel or west at this point.

Do you think i plan to backstab or something?

knew scum should never be left alive.

Probably reason survivors and jesters didn't claim.
Kinda fair, but i am more useful alive than dead, second townkill is awesome.

[Enchant]

i don't know if i believe enchant is SK

Yes a sk rampaging pgo that didn't out day1 so they Risk prs being killed but that would be basicly bullet proof killer .

Mod didn't allow Rampaging SK PGO to exist, because not compatible modifiers.

[Enchant]

Most fishy part is how he survived, but it's not so hard to assume doctor heal, because Bingle was pretty active in this game. So yeah, we possible have protective, who is town.

Bingle knew i am not town, not that i am exactly SK.

[Enchant]

Once he does let's kill enchant

Why?

[Enchant]

I didn't kill townie, so doesn't count.

[Enchant]

Actually main idea is where town such enough even with my help, so you help me in kingmaker.

Of course if you think you can win without me, go ahead.

[Enchant]

I am not dog or alien or, mercy me, butler.
I am aligned with myself and you overthinking things.

[Enchant]

Butler did it.

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Loft is one of person "Likely scum" from my list and could be voted, but i mostly chained to vote with majority (town).

As again, i knew i lose from start (i didn't expect SO FAST because PGO kinda supposed to protect me from PRs but it's still managed to hit me) and mostly played for Kill Count, so i will not hold any grudge if you kill me, but i am more useful alive (you always can kill me when i am last scum), and killing power is hard to overrate.

[Enchant]

They planned to vote me, not you. Idk why you claimed.

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At the very least, if I die tonight it would be confirmed that Enchant is a PGO.

I think PGO can be roleblocked even if it's passive ability. Unless i doesh't know something.

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I don't think it's needed to nullify my power, if you really want it, you could just vote me out and use ability on other ppl.

[Enchant]

Can you explain why you chooce Ma to block?

[Enchant]

Why kill claimed friendly scum if there's many unfriendly ones?

[Enchant]

If a doc saves some but person was shot by every one does the person still live.

Doc only protects from 1 kill.

[Enchant]

Aren't west town or you have doubts?

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Someone mentioned bus driver.

In theory, he could protect even more effectively, by bussing Bengie around. But if he is scum, he can bus Bengie kills instead or make sure Bengie will die by bussing him out of protection.

[Enchant]

Bengie checks i meant.

So scum could be confirmed as Town and otherwise without anyone knowing. Ergo, bus driver should be considered before thinking about plan.

[Enchant]

Well, if Bingle is actually scum who lied about doc existance, take care. It's not like you believe me anyway so see ya.

[Enchant]

Enchant ambushed monochromatic anime girl with all of the guns

Anime deserved it.

[Enchant]

god i hate this some else solve this for me

i'm a tracker.

i tracked loftwing to enchant.

1. why is loftwing alive if enchant is a PGO?
2. why did ssbm die if loftwing is a RB?
3. why did mama ru claim roleblock if loftwing didn't target mama ru?
4. i don't fucking know how bus driver works, so i guess loftwing got bus driven but if so, why am i so confused, is loftwing just straight up lying?

Welp! Seems like Loft lying.

You really don't need my help, scum trying to dig self.

[Enchant]

VOTE: Enchant

Actually, Enchant is not a Serial Killer, or else they have lied by omission.

Die, Scumb!

See ya in dead PT after day, college.

[Enchant]

Actually i got it right already.
VOTE: Enchant

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If bus driver is scum, Bingle not surviving this night.

[Enchant]

And yes, it's comedy gold.

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Why i am lying?

[Enchant]

Why i am lying?

PGO

But i am PGO. Why you think otherwise?

[Enchant]

Why i am lying?

PGO

But i am PGO. Why you think otherwise?

Bingle/Loft didn't die. I guess there could be a doctor but I think they would have had to protect loft so the bus drive would heal bing because I don't think a reflexive action like PGO is affected by bus driver

It's actually funny.

Doctor seems to healed Loft, but bus driver bussed heal on Bingle, who could survive.

It checks out, considering STD tried to watch who Loft visit, but watched Bingle instead.

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I don't know what town!doctor would heal loft

Hell i know, but he screwed me over with bus driver.

I believed to be immortal for PR and they found me n1.


Imo my betting is Scum!Doctor and Town!Bus driver

[Enchant]

Bah!

[Enchant]

Rolling protection against PRs and getting outed by said PR on day 2.

BAH