In post 776, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Post
744 is a huge waste of text where Mastina leads us down this rabbit hole of how open and honest she is about her time, she's not in the right headspace, etc etc. Much ado about nothing.
Mastinas play pretty much fits what i expect to see from scum!her, which is short bursts of spam texts with longer breaks in-between, with the grand bonus being this incessant tunneling.
This would be a fine narrative if not for one problem:
The narrative falls apart when you realize
744 was not my only post in that day. It's true enough that scumastina will very frequently make excuses for not making content especially when she is struggling in the game. So that aspect of the narrative is accurate! But the problem is, scumastina when using that excuse?
Doesn't post content at all when making it. And when she does post not-prod-dodges,
they are literally this lackluster. (I eventually managed to post content...by hard-bussing my teammates.)
Oh, but, "that's just one game!". I assure you,
it is not just the one game. You can even see it in
posts like this, which you may think, "wait, mastina, wasn't that a cross-post across all of your games at the time?", to which I would say yes, it was, but the cross-post in other games contained modifications specific to that game to contribute content. (I'd be augmenting my point if I could track down those towngames with that same cross-post to indicate the differences between the cross-post as town and the cross-post as scum but alas, hard to do that.)
Which continued.
Repeatedly.
Oh but that's just two examples.
Care for a third? Which, again, wasn't just an isolated post from that game.
Especially evident in
the last two posts of mine. I posted once on a Wednesday with a "no content today" and then again on a Friday with "no content today".
Care for a fourth? Where I actually
spent a second post declaring the no-content. Admittedly, that game had a notable aversion of this trend,
where I needed to post despite not wanting to as scum, but that's not only one of my best recent scumgames on record but also isolated,
Because here's a fifth.
Where I prod-dodged.
Repeatedly.
So why is this link spam important? This is me setting up for showing what the trend NorwegianboyEE attributes to my scum meta actually is. It is me showing examples of the thing that NorwegianboyEE was talking about, specifically so that you have the context behind how
744 doesn't
fit the narrative, which brings us to the crux of the issue.
If
744 were my only post of the day, NorwegianboyEE would've had a genuine, fair point.
The problem which makes Norwee's whole argument disingenuous as fuck? 744
was not my first post that day, and I
made many other posts both before the aforementioned
744, and then continued
AFTER 744 with more.
I did not do nothing on Tuesday with
744 being my sole contribution. I was posting content basically the entire time.
(As for short bursts of text with long pauses between? That's just a bullshit point in general because taking a look at literally any of my completed towngames will show that I've done precisely that in all of them because I am a much healthier mafiascum player nowadays and actually take breaks from the game for a day or two when I can get away with them. Even in a Blitz game where I should be posting every 24 hours, if the mod isn't attentive enough to notice I've been gone longer than that I can get away with a full 2-day break.
)
And anyone who doesn't see that this is my towngame is a fucking idiot because this is painfully transparently my towngame. Just as the difference between you as town and as scum is night/day the difference between me as town and as scum is night and day--
especially
during the times I am struggling to get into the game largely due to rl stuff.
The games where I struggle to get into the game due to rl stuff might be among my weakest, worst towngames, and my weakest worst towngames are comparable to my absolute best scumgames...but they are, critically,
not
comparable to the scumgames where I struggle to get into the game due to rl stuff. Because the scumgames where I struggle to get into the game due to rl stuff are not my best scumgames; they remain my worst.
Kinda wish jjh were in the game because he'd be able to explain that concept more eloquently than I could, really. (Basically: invested in the game town-mastina >>>> struggling town-mastina
>
invested in the game scumastina >>>>>>>> struggling scumastina. The fact I am struggling to be in the game is self-evident, but the fact that I am still putting in effort in
spite
of struggling is also self-evident, and a struggling scumastina
cannot
pull off a game like this. Nor is it ethical to lie about struggling as scum and even were it I never fucking lie so I wouldn't do that on personal morals.)
In post 798, Bingle wrote:Ngl, I don’t really hate this list. Or at least the middle bit of it. I don’t agree with it, but I can see where the reads originate. That doesn’t really make me less concerned that you’re scum.
I mean, sure. scumastina has readslists which look good. That's usually for a good reason though; she often has strong locktown reads on town and busses her scumbuddies. (Who'da thought? You can't make a readslist which looks good to people without it containing large swathes of truthfulness to it. If the readslist is entirely fabricated, it ends up not looking good.) To the point where this is actually a notable trend that people have picked up on!
So you should fucking sheep me on it.
Admittedly, the only parts that are going to be reliable regardless of my alignment are the very top and very bottom since the middle usually contains a mixture of alignments, but I guarantee you that even were I scum, Taly and Flea would be town and I'd be fucking bussing the shit out of NorwegianboyEE here! So you should fucking sheep me there because this is
not
the sort of read that is ever wrong.
Then after Norwee flips scum you can make your own decision on what alignment you think I am.
In post 798, Bingle wrote:I will point out that you not being in thread due to the RL absence doesn’t really fix the lack of town vibes while you’re here, but this could just be a case of you being too checked out to bleed town.
I
have
bled town. This is, transparently, my towngame. I've not been my
maximum townness
self, because again, I have a lot on my plate that makes things genuine a struggle, but
given what I'm capable of
, this is as town as I can get right now.
That having been said, can answer this;
In post 798, Bingle wrote:Talk to me about Taly, because I feel like he has significant scum equity if you’re town.
Taly is town here because of similar reasons to Flea;
1: Read resonance here, in a way that is not a carbon copy of my reads but looks like was developed on his own, with him having come to a similar place to me but not identical with him having done this largely on his own.
2: Taly asked me to townread him when he said I had like a 1/6 readrate on him with me always reading him as wrong so I decided "eh what the hell, it's D1, might as well townread him for it".
3: But actually I legit genuinely
did
townread him for that play. I may have exaggerated the townread generated due to #2 but it existed albeit weaker even lacking point #2.
4: And then after I did townread him, Taly didn't just accept this; he showed actual
surprise
to the townread! He was baffled that I was townreading him, in a way that strongly indicates to me that he is town, because if he were scum I don't think he'd be baffled I'd be townreading him (since to him, reading me wrong is what he'd expect, so me reading him as town when he is scum wouldn't be baffling, but me reading him as town when he is town IS).
5: Also, gut.
In post 798, Bingle wrote:Also, if you have a game or two that you think shows norwee scum I’d appreciate it, because I’m pretty sure he’s told me his scum game is easy to catch before and I don’t remember ever seeing it.
I think you're misinterpreting my point here.
I've never seen NorwegianboyEE as scum before this game.
I don't have any scum meta for Norwee.
But I do have town meta with Norwee, and can tell instantly that this? Isn't that. I've played with Norwee enough times to tell that this isn't Norwee as town, even remotely. It's "off" in a fundamental way that I can't see as being anything other than being due to him being scum because it's just...not him as town, in tone, in content, in posting, in everything.