Mini Theme 2182 - Legends of the Hidden Temple III - Over!

[DkKoba]

sup im town. Gonna check out my PT first.

[DkKoba]

wait how is this balanced with 4 scum lol

[DkKoba]

Oh my partner died lol that explains why its so dead in there LOOL

[DkKoba]

MF SPIES IN THESE TEAMS HUH

[DkKoba]

Gamma if ur town im about to save ur ass dw

[DkKoba]

If ur worried about spamposts why aren't u voting pooky LOL

[DkKoba]

how does town win this setup lol this shit is so scumsided LOL and i replaced into the one slot who already caught its scum

[DkKoba]

gamma can i get some scum games from u cause initial vibes is like ~this is within gamma townrange/towntone~ but i wanna be sure

[DkKoba]

VOTE: VP baltar parking here

[DkKoba]

I TRUST U POOKY

[DkKoba]

POOKY EXPLAIN......

[DkKoba]

Also i have a general question for people: do you think this is an all town nomination? If so, why?

[DkKoba]

fuck da police

we spamming till the cows come home.............

[DkKoba]

im actually rly sad i dont have a neighbor this game I love neighborhood

we woulda caught agar d1 if i was here

[DkKoba]

Lol, the one time I get high, a wild Koba appears.

I'm not real, im just a manifestation of your high.

[DkKoba]

oh no. cakez is in this game .. QUICK HIDE ME BEFORE HE YELLS AT MY HYPERPOSTING

[DkKoba]

i think agar is scummy but honestly not liking lilith's reaction here too much

ok like im not fucking sure if this is like typical bad take cakez townplay or if its like scum cakez trying to help their partner

[DkKoba]

can we undo this challenge i dont like the limpool lmfao

[DkKoba]

im instant challenging reck tomorrow. theres something fishy there and I will explain when its relevant.


also since no one has answered yet I'll restate: does anyone here who has been here the whole game think this nomination is all town?

[DkKoba]

i mean like if i determined this to be a full town pool I would lim gamma just bc solvability factor + proves recks push on gamma sux

[DkKoba]

Newbie 2041: Herbs and Spices
Large Normal 230
MBoS 10
Mini 2159: Cinder Blocks
Open 796: Haunted Village
Your Nightmare 4
warlock, werewolf, vampire/anonymous dance 2 - was the replacement for Gentleman 1
Arbiter's Takeover - offsite game, with unique threads for each day phase. If extra links are needed just ask

This is everything I've got for post-hiatus scumgames. Beyond that I don't care to dig for it because there's a lot and it's better to just provide a recent sample vs. what feels most representative of my play.

oh right i completely forgot about the newbie game where i specced for Esooa xD u were pretty blatant. yeah ok i dont think ur scum here just based on that vibe lol

[DkKoba]

im instant challenging reck tomorrow. theres something fishy there and I will explain when its relevant.

I think UT could be scum (and if you obvtown I will gain confidence in that) but I don't think you should auto challenge
unless it's cakez because he's a scumbutt

im obvtown

[DkKoba]

god i hate nightless so much. i rely so much on nightkill analysis im like "fuck these mf prob bussing obvscum agar and they gonna ride that towncred till the end"

[DkKoba]

are we locktowning lilith btw? like i just reread agar and then lilith

[DkKoba]

now to towntell or anything but i also would clear my slot based on agar interactions but thats not up to me

[DkKoba]

actually yeah i wanna townlock gamma here just soley based on agar posting alongside lilith -> and on the same vein i think notscience is scum who pretty blatantly distanced with them LMFAO

VP baltar also town to that vein but i have less confidence but its enough to UNVOTE:

[DkKoba]

are we locktowning lilith btw? like i just reread agar and then lilith

maybe? Do you think she should be locktowned?

i mean like look at how they interacted u think partners talk like that??

agar seemed to legit want lilith dead here.

[DkKoba]

which is why im looking at cakez since im not used to him having good accurate reads -> having a partner they know is scum would help them have a more accurate case imo which is why im like super fucking sus there.

[DkKoba]

am i crazy or does a reck/cakez/notscience team sound plausible

[DkKoba]

id like to hear from bulge/tripod/lilith on what theyve discussed in their PT about those 3 btw ^

[DkKoba]

gamma would u mind being an info lim if anything

[DkKoba]

just wannna say - i just doubled my slots post within the span of an hour.



also yes thats kinda like my boardstate read and thats why im like especially townlocking u rn. whats pooky like in his hood?

[DkKoba]

i wanna play chess in a PT... all ive ever done is roleswap and catch scum

[DkKoba]

VOTE: pooky

chess cheater

[DkKoba]

The pool of players eligible to be eliminated today consists of

VP Baltar

Gamma Emerald
PookyTheMagicalBear

Gamma Emerald (4) : VP Baltar, SirCakez, xRECKONERx, lilith2013
VP Baltar (3) : notscience, PookyTheMagicalBear, Gamma Emerald
PookyTheMagicalBear (0) :


Not Voting: Untrod Tripod, everyone Else

With 10 players alive it takes 6 votes to eliminate.

Starbuck has 40 minutes to reply to the prod and then I will start actively seeking replacement.

Oh idk NS, why dont I??

[DkKoba]

Can we no lim and choose a different group??

[DkKoba]

15."No Elim" is not an option. The gods of the Hidden Temple demand blood.

Read the rules

Bold of you to assume koba reads the rules in the first go

[DkKoba]

ok i need a poll then:

who unironically thinks lilith x agar could be remotely partnered interactions

bc that stuck out to me like a sore thumb and i looked at it and was like, the tone he used with lilith spews them as hard town here.
same with gamma

which is why i think the gamma push is dumb and scum motivated.

[DkKoba]

y doe

[DkKoba]

So who was agar distancing with?

[DkKoba]

"Ur bad or ur scum" most lazy reaction to an fos, should be the modern omgus

[DkKoba]

I don't think Koba knows how to read me at all tho so who knows

How should i read you to be correct then?

[DkKoba]

How do challenges work

[DkKoba]

im challenging sircakez right after this flips town

[DkKoba]

why are u helping me

[DkKoba]

im literally trying to challenge ur partner

[DkKoba]

ur already setting up lmaoooo

[DkKoba]

yeah but im fucking high rn and with family so i wont rn
ur interactions/what agar spewed made me mainly think ur scum. The accurate read point was pointing to TMI.
Felt too convenient when reading.
Thats what I'll mention from what i remember

[DkKoba]

i literallt gave u like my summary of the main points i remember but whatever

[DkKoba]

I don't think Koba knows how to read me at all tho so who knows

hmmm
trying to remember what koba's read on you in betrayal was

town

[DkKoba]

I replaced in and found 2 scum right away

[DkKoba]

I replaced in and found 2 scum right away

who r u talking about

when i replaced into Betrayal Mafia 1 i found 2 maf right away who were obvious.

this game im pretty sure its reck/cakez

[DkKoba]

koba who is it between gamma and baltar

leaning towards neither but if u told me 1 of them had to be scum id shoot baltar.

[DkKoba]

"I had good reads in a game one time"

Okay cool

what are u trying to say with this bud?

[DkKoba]

no you definitely were ok with elimming me in betrayal

im okay everytime to lim a person who hardpushes 3 town miselims

[DkKoba]

whatever VOTE: VP Baltar

there is 0 chance we get gamma here

[DkKoba]

whatever VOTE: VP Baltar

there is 0 chance we get gamma here

He's literally sitting at y1

I will singlehandedly save him.

[DkKoba]

it was policy

[DkKoba]

Hey bulge why did u hammer

[DkKoba]

VOTE: bulge
Dont let quickhammerers live kthzbye

[DkKoba]

VOTE: bulge
Dont let quickhammerers live kthzbye

this is scum trying to get rid of obvtown lilith while distancing bulge/cakez.
Either way like bulge flips scum here like always and if hes town its a good policy anyways

[DkKoba]

gamma was bleeding town idgaf

[DkKoba]

Whatever. Keep limming my locktowns just lose the game while ur at it

[DkKoba]

why is she scum

[DkKoba]

agar literally spewed her as town idfg how u can literally ignore that shit

[DkKoba]

agar in our PT wanted me to push lilith too

[DkKoba]

U play mafia since 2015 and dont know what spew means?

[DkKoba]

i literally explained it ffs

they had intent to eliminate them.

If u mean to tell me that agars strategy is to force a scum v scum then ur insane

[DkKoba]

Just cause 1 wagon is wrong doesnt mean the alternative one was correct tf

[DkKoba]

or maybe pushing an easy target bc shes LHF LMAO
What's the case on her this time cakez?

[DkKoba]

just wild like I'll take either bulge or cakez today. They wanna take the LHF to make themselves feel more clear

[DkKoba]

bulge has no reason to vote gamma

[DkKoba]

ill reread but this is dumb

[DkKoba]

where did this narrative that someone agar attacked = scum lmfao

[DkKoba]

thats the most arbitrary thing to make up that is an easy way to chain elims.

my mindset here rn is like "who did agar spew as town and who as scum"

not just "lets just lim people agar has interacted with"

[DkKoba]

i think agar is scummy but honestly not liking lilith's reaction here too much

did we forget this tho

[DkKoba]

My point was for someone who was agars preferred push in that elimination pool he sure did fuckall to actually push it. I also think it’s weird that he ignored my partner for the most part besides superficial interactions but that just kinda compounds on prior misgivings I had

he wanted to push lilith in our PT, but wanted me to do it.

[DkKoba]

i think he was seriously trying to push it onto lilith and didnt want to get cakez limmed there.......but ok. at least fmpov thats what I see. and that explains the self hammer there.

[DkKoba]

He went very quick from “notsci scum” to “yeah notsci has the best plan to follow”

interesting

[DkKoba]

he wanted to push lilith in our PT, but wanted me to do it.

Tell us more about this.

When i get off work. But it isnt much.

[DkKoba]

yes I definitely hard bussed my buddy for the obviously nonexistent towncred

Well u flushed it down the drain with the gamma push

[DkKoba]

Koba, do you subscribe to this meta brought by gamma and Noraa that if Cakez is finding scum, he is suspicious?

wait im not the only one? LMAO

i literally suggested it the other day based on how detailed the case was cause it felt TMI

[DkKoba]

Yup thats why im voting scum rn and ur voting town

[DkKoba]

saying x amount of ppl have to be on or off wagon is moonlogic

[DkKoba]

Koba can still shove it tho

<3

why did u hammer gamma?

[DkKoba]

limming town just because theyre quiet is playing right into scum hands wtf

[DkKoba]

no one wants to bite on bulge so imma just pivot back to this: VOTE: cakez

lack of momentum towards bulge implies lilith is not scum btw

[DkKoba]

pooky u up?

[DkKoba]

we getting the baddie?

[DkKoba]

ill flip lilith just to prove a point tbh if she doesnt come and post.

the slanking is not a good look here so im not as convinced of her being town but like :// imma feel like a clown after prob

[DkKoba]

*pokes thread*

[DkKoba]

not today, going back to work im tired etc more later this week

[DkKoba]

yeah losing spoons after having to fight to get gamma limmed lmfao

[DkKoba]

it can be both so how about you fuck off

[DkKoba]

Koba, can you answer my question

lmao sorry i completely forgot

[DkKoba]

let me pull it up

[DkKoba]

the PT is literally less than 1 page but like after post 6 its like agar trying to appeal to starbuck who is just straight afk and doesnt reply lol

agar explains like how lilith being on him is scummy and that starbuck should push on her. it explains why agar just selfed. its the main reason im townreading lilith here. he was trying to appeal like subtly. theres like 5 posts with a few quote walls and then the 6th one is agar basically being like "sorry for deceiving you"

[DkKoba]

fmpov it makes sense

[DkKoba]

like he basically hardspewed lilith town and then like rage quit lol

[DkKoba]

i dont get why we keep assuming scum are big-brained players trying to set up super theater when the Occam's Razor Solution is Agar thought Lilith would be an easy push cuz Lilith is not even here and our mod is also not here to prod her into actually playing the game.

[DkKoba]

unless u think im also scum i literally confirm that agar played that in our PT

[DkKoba]

hi lilith can u share what ur perspective is rn? where are u at in this game rn

[DkKoba]

this means like at least something substantive like a reads list btw

[DkKoba]

me, when my townreads towntell:

[DkKoba]

i literally just cleared u based on our PT how am I null???

god i hate this game sometimes lol

[DkKoba]

VOTE: sircakez

yall actually or

[DkKoba]

hey bulge i declare intent to challenge you

[DkKoba]

and their push on Bulge and me was wafflesauce

Was too busy putting in effort into among us mafia. My attention has been diverted here

[DkKoba]

i should just listen to my gut everytime tbh

[DkKoba]

not feeling lilith either after that flip as much

[DkKoba]

I want to kill baltar Cakez and bulge

you can't kill cakez twice dude

baltar do u claim pt cop

[DkKoba]

Oh whoops forgot those were in my quotes

[DkKoba]

I have nothing to add here except that Reck's turn onto me here is weird

yeah if you're town sorry, this back and forth was doing nothing for me and i'm tired of listening to koba say how right they are

lmao what is this weak ass excuse to dissociate yourself from the wagon

[DkKoba]

scum guilt?

[DkKoba]

im probably just nominating bulge today and forcing the 1v1. id just like to give them time to speak and give their own nom and reasoning if they'd like lmao (and other reasons)

[DkKoba]

me, knowing cakez is never going to let me down misreading them in this game after roasting them in the past :

[DkKoba]

like if we miss here tommorrow is lylo

maybe I should actually re-read instead of snapchallenging Baltar.

pooky do u trust me

u know i can spot scum on replace in very often

[DkKoba]

I still say clear parrots and Jaguars

why do u think bulge is town?

[DkKoba]

you said "clear"

[DkKoba]

which implies town

[DkKoba]

did u forget yall were both on parrots? lol

[DkKoba]

also anything in their PT ?

[DkKoba]

ur word choice is weird then LOL

when i think clear i think "town"

[DkKoba]

i mean i would go as far as to say lilith is clear here

[DkKoba]

from my point of view at least

[DkKoba]

gamma i would have had as a close 2nd but yall murdered him >.>

[DkKoba]

ok

intent to challenge parrots in 12 hours

[DkKoba]

agar LITERALLY FUCKING SPEWED LILITH TOWN but ok

[DkKoba]

like if im actually wrong on lilith ill fucking delete my account

[DkKoba]

I have nothing to add here except that Reck's turn onto me here is weird

yeah if you're town sorry, this back and forth was doing nothing for me and i'm tired of listening to koba say how right they are

lmao what is this weak ass excuse to dissociate yourself from the wagon

nah it's just true, you're p insufferable tbh

[DkKoba]

VOTE: The Bulge

[DkKoba]

I mean if I were more active then yea I'd be more present to defend myself but I don't think anyone suspects me for my activity.

and if they are then like

lol

and yet u had the confidence to hammer gamma there?

[DkKoba]

I honestly would rather flip Lilith still who I think is the bus vote on the wagon

VOTE: lillith

bad vote

[DkKoba]

maybe its notsci and bulge and that's why they rushed to challenge lilith here lol

[DkKoba]

k i literally threatened to challenge ur team and now suddenly......... ur team challenges elsewhere..

[DkKoba]

idgaf after bulge im rechallenging u

[DkKoba]

are u really discrediting my whole game off 1 bad read, one that was logically warranted?

i have decent accuracy in games, it tends to not be as good when theres no nightkills involved but generally i'll pull it through by lylo. but that requires stuff like my townreads be respected. gamma was going to be a key member to keep around that was "obvtown" for me in my poe.

[DkKoba]

bump

[DkKoba]

UNVOTE:

[DkKoba]

dead air dead villager gonna reread

[DkKoba]

Yeah I really don’t care what koba says about those logs tbh

VOTE: notscience

[DkKoba]

if we take a look at notsci's d1 -> probably TMI that it was an all town challenge bc they were unengaged with hunting within -> voting who was noted as their top townread at one point -> looks like later they realize "oh i have to seem like i care about who i elim inside here" -> (seriously why did i never reread this cause it reeks of scum motivation in action choice, makes today's challenge make MUCH more sense)

like noraa is a player who obvtowns a lot. in a nightless, u CANNOT have players go to endgame as scum that are obvtown. when i played nomination 7p that nahdia hosted a while back, I was terrified of a couple players who obvtowned early on when i was scum. for me the goal was to get rid of them somehow. (pooky replaced in for me in that game as I had to replace out for IRL reasons)

notsci would then realize agar is a weak link(his appeal was rly obvscum flailing at the end in the PT lol)-> the fact that notscience is on the wagon here means they planned this bus so that notsci could get towncred in order to endgame easier. We already have 2 conf town on that wagon.

notsci again waffling on gamma, not actually defending them, knowing the other options are town here(if notsci flips scum they're all conf town and we basically win by poe.), look at their lines around the hammer 1576 -> this is reminiscent of notsci's behavior on d1.

lol like the more i read notsci its like........ the puzzle is just coming together like and it feels solved.


lol i tabbed out and forgot to hit post oops

[DkKoba]

basically, if you can trust that i am town here, then notsci spewed pooky+VP as town and we have a winning PoE

[DkKoba]

rule 1 of playing scum against Koba: don't piss Koba off

[DkKoba]

loooooooooooooooooool bye its u

[DkKoba]

im literally not letting this shit happen again

[DkKoba]

ok scum

[DkKoba]

didnt read btw

[DkKoba]

no u cant flip on me bc ur stuck townreading me bc of starbuck LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

basically ur trapped and now that ive exposed u its over.

ur gone bud, no more LHF lims for u

[DkKoba]

how am i confbiased

[DkKoba]

literally ur interactions around d1 and d3 wagons energy was much different from d2.

u TMI'd when going after agar and d1 and d3 wagons its really that simple.

[DkKoba]

yeah and how did u scumread agar d1 lmfao

->because he was ur partner and u knew they were scum and u were setting up the towncred

[DkKoba]

u literally only said agar was scum AFTER d1 nom already happened so its just a setup into d2 lmfao

[DkKoba]

basically ur point u scumread agar d1 is pointless bc, there was no way to lim agar d1.

[DkKoba]

no im not

[DkKoba]

whatever fuck this im not arguing in circles with scum

[DkKoba]

if we take a look at notsci's d1 -> probably TMI that it was an all town challenge bc they were unengaged with hunting within -> voting who was noted as their top townread at one point -> looks like later they realize "oh i have to seem like i care about who i elim inside here" -> (seriously why did i never reread this cause it reeks of scum motivation in action choice, makes today's challenge make MUCH more sense)

like noraa is a player who obvtowns a lot. in a nightless, u CANNOT have players go to endgame as scum that are obvtown. when i played nomination 7p that nahdia hosted a while back, I was terrified of a couple players who obvtowned early on when i was scum. for me the goal was to get rid of them somehow. (pooky replaced in for me in that game as I had to replace out for IRL reasons)

notsci would then realize agar is a weak link(his appeal was rly obvscum flailing at the end in the PT lol)-> the fact that notscience is on the wagon here means they planned this bus so that notsci could get towncred in order to endgame easier. We already have 2 conf town on that wagon.

notsci again waffling on gamma, not actually defending them, knowing the other options are town here(if notsci flips scum they're all conf town and we basically win by poe.), look at their lines around the hammer 1576 -> this is reminiscent of notsci's behavior on d1.

lol like the more i read notsci its like........ the puzzle is just coming together like and it feels solved.


lol i tabbed out and forgot to hit post oops

read this and look at the evidence urself and then vote notsci kthxbye

[DkKoba]

“Notsci said the day one challenge was all town and wasn’t doing anything”

*excuse*

“Notsci spewed them all as town”
*excuse*

“Notsci would have realized agar is the weak link”
*weak logic*

“He just did it for towncred”
*deflection*

“Notsci waffle on gamma”
*lie*

“Notsci didn’t want to hammer town”
*mischaracterization*

[DkKoba]

looks like someone didnt actually read what i wrote and just assumed notsci was telling the truth about what i said

[DkKoba]

Yes I was literally pointing out how u weren't defending the slot???

but sure twist my words into saying i just said u were scummy for not hammering someone you said you townread yup.

[DkKoba]

And as I explained, defending my read would have been pointless and a waste of time

Or do you like making the same boring pushes flipped scum made?

wtf are u on about

[DkKoba]

"would have been pointless and a waste of time"
k deepwolf whatever u say

[DkKoba]

wait when did ppl switch to bulge i thought i was solo there

[DkKoba]

now that i can respond to this - i only repped out cuz the game was going like 2mph and i was like zzz next time adding deadlines maybe like give mafia a shot if they take too long or smthing.

and also for the love of god dont play to bus in nightless cuz everytime u lose a player u have to make it up with 2 ML -

the cakez lim push was super satisfying as well as pulling the pressure off of lilith and tying her to me, overall i think mafia had a better chance if we get bulge over lilith the day lilith got eliminated. notsci was the optimal there.

gg.

good job cakez/gamma, i got u 2 limmed bc u were dangerous lolol was rly hard.

[DkKoba]

>:/
Your team lost m8

I did acknowledge this in my post, read it again. I said the reason for this was the bussing that occurred.

[DkKoba]

bussing is a losing strategy when u execute it poorly. tis all.