Mini 2150 - Anime SeiyuU-Pick [SHOW'S OVER!]

[MariaR]

Much better, now I don't need to keep logging into that hydra. And no, I won't say who Fox was.

[MariaR]

Mastina, can I check, are you suggesting you can't read Shiro at all based on meta, and that is sufficient to not vote her here?

No, Shiro can be read off of meta and I used to know how--but I forgot the method I used to read Shiro off of said meta, which means that currently it's more or less 'yes'.

However, while I might not be able to remember what Shiro's tell is--I can say this about Shiro regardless. Even without a meta tell on Shiro, Shiro's alignment becomes more clear with time. Shiro cannot carry a scumteam even when scum. Shiro contributes virtually nothing regardless of alignment. Because of this lack of contribution regardless of alignment, Shiro is the least-valuable member of any given scumteam, and with other scum dead, Shiro is quick to be exposed. That much I remember about Shiro quite clearly. Shiro won't carry a game as town, but Shiro won't carry a game as scum. More than that, a Shiro lynch gives the town almost nothing regardless of Shiro's alignment. If Shiro's scum, nothing to find scumbuddies from; if Shiro's town, we get no info from what amounted to a policy lurker-lynch since there's no way to tell the scum hopping on an easy wagon apart from the town who believed it was a good wagon.

I'm not going to give Shiro an indefinite pass. Heck I want Shiro to post more and if Shiro continues to not, I might even frustrate-vote Shiro just to apply pressure to Shiro. But I don't think Shiro's a good D1 lynch; Shiro's a good D3 or so lynch, if suspicion remains.

Basically, Shiro isn't getting an indefinite pass from me, but

currently

has a temporary one.

Alright now I'm getting a Shiro Mastina scumteam vibe from this. I feel like Mastina was being overly quick to defend Shiro and now saying if Shiro is scum we nee stop find their partner first. I don't know how to describe it but it feels like Mastina is shielding Shiro.

You say this, but I feel like most of Mastina's points from what I read are pretty valid. At least the one I quoted on panther at least. I don't think Shiro has really done much to warrant a wagon on them, at least at the time. Shiro is a pretty easy vote that people wouldn't get heat for and that comes from scum more often than town. Now does that mean we should hurl every Shiro voted off a cliff? No, but I don't see the Mastina/Shiro scumteam thing going on here

[MariaR]

Well this is a pleasant surprise Panther. Nice to see you. Please give Fox my well wishes, whomever they are.

I'll do just that. Thanks Titus. It was a shame I couldn't scream in glee when I saw you. It was also making me pull my hair out having to pretend I had no idea that Mastina fakes mason claims every other game.

[MariaR]

Hello Alisae nice to see you.

[MariaR]

Well this is a pleasant surprise Panther. Nice to see you. Please give Fox my well wishes, whomever they are.

I'll do just that. Thanks Titus. It was a shame I couldn't scream in glee when I saw you. It was also making me pull my hair out having to pretend I had no idea that Mastina fakes mason claims every other game.

Oh yeah. Mastina's done that again. Ok.

Since Fox isn't here, can you give me a general rundown of your viewpoints and his/her last ones?

-Fox was scumreading Battlemage the most out of everyone in the playerlist earlygame/when they were done catching up.
-They wanted Panzer dead first though because it's a 3p and we have no idea if they're telling the truth.

We agreed with townreads on Deimos and Mikul and that's really all Fox had.

I myself think Cat boi is scum and Shiro is town have not read a single DK or much of Tipsys posts.
pedit: No, no I couldn't because that's giving me information in a game that I am apart of.

[MariaR]

Panzer is aligned with no one atm but once they're hit with 3 night actions they're turned into town.

[MariaR]

I also agree that the claim is odd because it seems like really bad design if it's just...that. I don't think it's entirely made up cause Starrk is really lazy, but I think there's more to the claim than what we're being presented with. Do I really want to use the day 1 lynch on a 3p when we probably have some kind of vig to deal with it though? Not really.

[MariaR]

Hey beeboy what's up! I don't really disagree with part of the assessment that we're still in a...odd game state for page 30. It probably has to do with the fact that this is basically a new playerlist on why it feels so off and strange for me I can't speak for anyone else on the matter but I find it hard to post in this game and that's really new for me.

[MariaR]

Wasn't I obv scum to you Panzer or did that read go away when you saw it was me?

[MariaR]

Beeboy...no.

I think we're missing the point where if we keep engaging with the wall of noise you'll keep getting it when other factors are of more importance. Do people townread catboi/like there recent posting? Has it impressed them enough to deal with the early game of Tux that was (imo) the worst in the game?

[MariaR]

The only slots I see real reason to want to vote are Panzer/Cat/jk. Could argue for Tipsy but that's not gonna happen with my levels of effort to be honest.

VOTE: catboi

[MariaR]

Pretty good putting Titus/Mastina/Shiro/Beeboy in my townie pool.

[MariaR]

I would feel better about it if you were more accepting to the fact that it was obviously fake? Even then his reaction to such a thing looked really forced. If he did believe it I would be townreading your slot, but the way he reacted to it is the issue not if it was obvious or not.

[MariaR]

you have a town role pm so you're biased I get that. But not being able to see how this could be fake to others is still...odd? I don't really think you've done much to change my option overall. Consodering I don't know who you are most of your posts are...fair. But I don't really see anything that's super townie from them.

[MariaR]

Will post tomorrow but tldr don’t feel good about the Deimos wagon regardless of the mastina claim

[MariaR]

Surprised I haven't been wagoned yet.

VOTE: Tipsy

Test

[MariaR]

Beeboy/Mastina/Chem/Jackson/Shiro is 5 not counting myself. My job is done now I can go back to bed

[MariaR]

dl is at 11 am? Yawn. I'll get up for it I guess. Byeeee

[MariaR]

Don’t lynch Shiro thank you

[MariaR]

HURT: MariaR

VOTE: Tipsy

[MariaR]

HURT: no one

VOTE: Panzer

Hm...

[MariaR]

Really annoyed that Shiro ended up being lynched I should've been clearer but I was super busy. Time to look at the early posters

Mastina
Chemist
Beeboy
Jackson
Titus
jks
Donkey Kong
Panzer
Tipsy
Catboi

[MariaR]

Beeboy might be scum in fact, I'd be a bit surprised if he wasn't but if beeboy dies I become a VT and I'm not ready to be a VT yet.

[MariaR]

Don't see why Titus goes head to head with Mastina here as scum. Then again I'm agreeing with the Tipsy scumread. Although any scumteam with Tipsy/Panzer on it is...really really weird.

[MariaR]

VOTE: Tipsy

[MariaR]

VOTE: catboi

[MariaR]

Just woke up. Read this in like, 5 minutes and feel fine with this vote. Catboi/Tipsy are my ideal vote targets. I have reason to doubt Panzer still but that's not for today

[MariaR]

This is part where I'm supposed tp post updated content but I don't have much to give. Who wants to bounce some ideas off

[MariaR]

This is part where I'm supposed tp post updated content but I don't have much to give. Who wants to bounce some ideas off

Me. If you had a vig pool of 3 players, who would you pick?

Catboi/Tipsy/Panzer in that order at the moment.

[MariaR]

Thoughts on beeboy?

I kinda feel like scum are demotivated because they realized I am unlynchable today.

As I said before, beeboy could be scum and I would expect him to be but his death makes me a VT and with my role I don't wanna be VT atm

[MariaR]

VOTE: Tipsy

The urge to vote Panzer was strong I can probably debate it though

[MariaR]

We're not lynching beeboy day 2 Especially with the plans we're setting up. Don't make me claim ty

[MariaR]

Beeboy please you're not helping

[MariaR]

I wouldn't have believed the vig thing knowing my own power but since we have a cop power anything seems possible.

[MariaR]

Why me Titus? Need a helping hand?

My vote was still on Ari purely because I forgot to be honest. Panzer could be scum but that read is more in relation to my own role more than anything else given I like the Tipsy push.

[MariaR]

beeboy
Tipsy
Panzerjager
Donkey Kong
catboi
jks

Mastina
Chemist
Jackson slot
Titus
DK
Beeboy
jks
Panzer
Catboi
Tipsy

[MariaR]

Oh ignore the top part of that list I forgot to delete that when I was making my reads list. The bottom part is town to scum. As for leashing? Catboi/Tipsy. If Panzer is town I can't trust my own role so I really want to flip him but a cop is a cop

VOTE: Tipsy for now though

[MariaR]

Aww I was silently wishing you were asking me because you townread me.
pedit: It's not bastard, you should be able to get at what I'm hinting at though.

[MariaR]

If Panzer is town the mafia have counters that make me not trust my role.

[MariaR]

Although, that makes me think only 1 of Panzer/beeboy are probably scum because the counter to my role would be beeboy

[MariaR]

In theory it could be, but that would depend on the rest of the setup that I don't know about.
pedit: I agree given my role is like, busted. (Hi Mafia I'm just kidding don't kill me~)

[MariaR]

I'm tempted to claim to help clear up my beeboy/Panzer theory but I'd only feel comfortable if I got help solving them/we did something about it. Scum may already know my role

[MariaR]

Okay so, I'm in a pt with beeboy/Shiro

My role is a tracker+watcher combo. I watch/track my combo but my results must be posted in that pt. If they both die I lose my powers. There's also something else that makes no sense in claiming.

[MariaR]

Okay so, I'm in a pt with beeboy/Shiro

My role is a tracker+watcher combo. I watch/track my combo but my results must be posted in that pt. If they both die I lose my powers. There's also something else that makes no sense in claiming.

If beeboy dies at night, do you get your results in the PT that night?

If so, you could track and watch me. That would prevent scum from roleblocking me. You might also watch chemist.

Yeah I still get my results if beeboy dies at night

[MariaR]

Okay so, I'm in a pt with beeboy/Shiro

My role is a tracker+watcher combo. I watch/track my combo but my results must be posted in that pt. If they both die I lose my powers. There's also something else that makes no sense in claiming.

If beeboy dies at night, do you get your results in the PT that night?

If so, you could track and watch me. That would prevent scum from roleblocking me. You might also watch chemist.

Yeah I still get my results if beeboy dies at night

Ok, I gave Chemist a gun. He needs to be watched actually. This is regardless of who I am leashed to. Chemist needs to be protected. I had to make a choice between him and mastina. Since mastina has floated shooting me, I picked Chemist.

This is why I said Creature's calculations are off. He wasn't factoring in another town killing.

I would have held off but I don't think I am living longer.

Will do.

[MariaR]

like in a hypothetical scenario where we eliminate aristophanes and he flips town are people going to re-evaluate me or just keep clinging to the same lazy reads

Until you give better reasons for who scum is then I'll stick to my lazy reads <3

[MariaR]

like in a hypothetical scenario where we eliminate aristophanes and he flips town are people going to re-evaluate me or just keep clinging to the same lazy reads

Until you give better reasons for who scum is then I'll stick to my lazy reads <3

i'm not convinced you're reading the game at all so why bother

Okay but, I'm not the only player in this game that you need to convince.

[MariaR]

VOTE: Panzer

[MariaR]

hmmm

[MariaR]

First of all
HEAL: MariaRx2

[MariaR]

Then I choose no one

[MariaR]

I just wanna confirm something really quick.
@Titus you shot beeboy and you're sure chemist got a gun correct?

[MariaR]

Okay so I was blocked.

We know Chemist wouldn't shoot Mastina so either he was blocked as well or never got a gun. Hm

[MariaR]

I was gonna fake a guilty but I forgot for a quick moment beeboy would know it's fake.

[MariaR]

2 people did die but does a scum vig really make sense? Let me sit on that

[MariaR]

Who did you target N1 and what result, MariaR?

I can't see it in your ISO.

Titus with no visit or action.

[MariaR]

I can see a world with Titus/Beeboy with Titus not wanting me to track her but if that was the case scum already knew I tracked Titus n1 so I wouldn't be able to do it again.

[MariaR]

People who normally aren't that talked about in the middle ground are people who normally do things like night kills or actions that would get you caught. So I figured Titus was a good bet.

[MariaR]

Pretty good putting Titus/Mastina/Shiro/Beeboy in my townie pool.

Did this change before N1?

(And on a related note, you were scum reading beeboy D2. What changed between here and D2?)

Nope! Also Day 2 we had Shiro who flipped town and I was left alone with beeboy. Don't really want to say I scumread my neighbors for no reason even though I told them I think 1 of them is probably scum

[MariaR]

I forgot star flipped vig tbh

[MariaR]

Would Chem die if he was roleblocked with the vig?

[MariaR]

I was roleblocked Titus don't know what else to tell you. Roleblocker some kind of rolestopper I don't know. But at the moment the most logical scum team to me is you+beeboy

[MariaR]

I guess I'll wait for the others but I'm trying to see what the world is with only 1 of beeboy/Titus scum.

If beeboy is scum and titus is town we had 3 ways of killing scum
If titus is scum and beeboy is town scum had a vig and no way of knowing about a cop/tracker that we're aware of.

Both of these seem pretty reachy

[MariaR]

I don't either because this seems extrmely messy

[MariaR]

taps foot

anytime now

[MariaR]

That's a mood.

[MariaR]

Uhhh beeboy. You do know there's only been 2 nights correct?

[MariaR]

What's the issue?

[MariaR]

VOTE: beeboy

yawn

[MariaR]

Then don't let 1 more person vote? Not that hard.

[MariaR]

Titus if I was scum all I'd do is guilty you and then win off the ml. Sadly I'm town so this game isn't as easy.

[MariaR]

Glad you agree so you won't feel bad if I do
VOTE: Catboi

this right?

[MariaR]

I think I can townfirm two people rn, but not sure if I should out them

You should.

[MariaR]

Are you the one, MariaR?

Nope. There's no way you could clear me unless I was doc'd. I'm a VT atm

[MariaR]

Well now I'm even more curious

[MariaR]

Hey Ari, now that the gaems over I got a question. Why do you feel dif in this game compared to Free Love? You were a super easy tr for me and I'm not getting that vibe here? Maybe it has to do with how hard I was wolfreading tipsy but uh...what's up?

[MariaR]

Flavor claim as in my seiyuu or my char(s)?

Also thanks, that makes me feel a little bit better about you.

[MariaR]

Joseph Joestar and look @ beeboy/Shiro

[MariaR]

Creature says they have a clear you say you have a guilty. Well I can just kick back at this point can't I?

[MariaR]

I didn't do the mod post thing cause it seems entirely useless.
Also yes the thing that made no sense in claiming was an extra power that was dumb to claim

[MariaR]

I didn't do the mod post thing cause it seems entirely useless.
Also yes the thing that made no sense in claiming was an extra power that was dumb to claim

Have you used it?
If so, when?

I've used it every night. That's all I can say on the matter.

[MariaR]

How hard is this guilty?

[MariaR]

Alright I'm not gonna do anything until you say more then.

[MariaR]

Alright I'm not gonna do anything until you say more then.

Okay then. Did you target me in any way last night?

Last night? No.

[MariaR]

You shouldn't see me visiting at all at this point...unless the mod poster thing is a visit but even then I've purposely avoided using it.

[MariaR]

There's a perfectly logical explnation for this

[MariaR]

There's a perfectly logical explnation for this

Oh?

And what might that be?

Let me see if I get this right:

You're saying I attacked you?

[MariaR]

There's a perfectly logical explnation for this

Oh?

And what might that be?

Let me see if I get this right:

You're saying I attacked you?

Essentially, though I am unsure if you are referring to a specific flavour if that is part of this question.

If you're saying that I visited you then you're lying if it's a guilty.
If you're saying my suiyus flavor visited you then that's not a guilty.

[MariaR]

VOTE: Donkey Kong

Has DK claimed flavor because this is really important and makes a lot of sense if what I'm thinking is real really happened.

[MariaR]

There's a perfectly logical explnation for this

Oh?

And what might that be?

Let me see if I get this right:

You're saying I attacked you?

Essentially, though I am unsure if you are referring to a specific flavour if that is part of this question.

If you're saying that I visited you then you're lying if it's a guilty.
If you're saying my suiyus flavor visited you then that's not a guilty.

I have not seen a DK flavour claim, no.

How is your Seiyuu's flavour visiting me not a guilty? I'd love for you to elaborate on this when you can.

I didn't think much of it at the time, but during the pt with Shiro beeboy etc. When we were talking about who to basically flavor cop. I brought up you and DK and when I told beeboy I was gonna vote for DK he strongly seemed against it saying it was useless and probably didn't matter. I thought it was just a flavor cop so I didn't really care that much myself. But, what if the last scum can change there flavor/Seiyuu? I got a double vote the day before for...no reason? I wouldn't be surprised if that was connected and since Beeboy didn't want me to flavor cop DK I think that might be way.

[MariaR]

If you think this is crazy you can vote me. I'm still basically a VT even with the mini action but that's where my head is at right now.

[MariaR]

Karasuma Tadaomi.

You don't lose much for voting me. Give me the Macho tag regardless though

[MariaR]

I got a double vote the day before for...no reason?

I gave you the double audition vote, I claimed it yesterday. I figured I would protect you as the claimed watcher and chose the 1/3 of my powers that had no effect on someone being targeted, but it at least confirms my role

Dang my THEORY.

[MariaR]

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[MariaR]

ooo let me pick!

HURT: jks

[MariaR]

Despite all the replaceouts even my own hydra this was fun.

Ta ta friends!