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I'd like an explanation from Votato
Votato was leaning towards going on me so it looks like you were going with the momentoskitter30 wrote:- not reacting defensively
- your push on me is vapid
- i'm kinda intersted that you're framing my vote on you as 'trying to form a cw' over 'think your entrance is scummy'
You do indeed appear to be reacting defensively-
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I think you overexplained youself here which felt overdefensiveIn post 15, skitter30 wrote:ok, why is that a fake persona over:
- me being in a good mood this morning?
- me writing p much the exact same rvs post that i've written in nearly every game i've played in the past several months?-
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Only thing I can agree with in hereIn post 31, votato wrote:But if youre scum its actually quite a bad play,-
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lilith2013 wrote:skitter I’ve never seen you this excited which is making me a biiiiiiiiit paranoid
Idk. Loaded question.In post 44, lilith2013 wrote:Dunn, if you don’t like my vote on you then why don’t you straight up ask me why I voted? Why this skirting around of trying to throw shade at me for it?
Literally what I was argueing and you're now voting me forlilith2013 wrote:skitter I’ve never seen you this excited which is making me a biiiiiiiiit paranoid-
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Supposed to be @ the first half of skitters post. I jumped on her early but there are $!gns thereIn post 47, lilith2013 wrote:skitter I’ve never seen you this excited which is making me a biiiiiiiiit paranoid-
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TwoIn post 194, midwaybear wrote:
bruh you played in one game with meIn post 193, Dunnstral wrote:The midway thing was a joke because I've always been scum in his games and he gets pushed as town
right?
Remember I replaced into one-
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I was pushing what was available at the time. This is fair analysisIn post 116, Morning Tweet wrote:a lot of people don't openly admit their pushes are weak early on. It's actually funny sometimes how big the gap between how good the push is and how confident someone is about it. I think he was playing it up in an attempt to sort you, so it doesn't really make sense to see it as town!Dunn backs down and scum!dunn doubles down
I endorse this sentimentIn post 117, Clover Ebi wrote:@Lilith/Votato/Skitter. Are your votes on Dunnstral real? Do you think he's coming out of the gate swinging on Skitter like this as scum? That just seems pretty bold if you ask me.
Skitter/Lilith/Votato are so eager to scumread me-
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Really cause it seems she's only talking about meIn post 149, Clover Ebi wrote:
I looked at your iso again and it seems very reasonable/open. You're talking to others and taking other angles that don't involve Dunn. I don't think you're tunneled atm.In post 145, skitter30 wrote:
am i tunneled/focused on dunn too much?In post 127, Clover Ebi wrote:How do I say this properly...
Lilith I looked at your back and forth with Dunn and I think you're a bit tunneled/focused on him too much. Like, if Dunn is scum I doubt a lot of the reasons you're calling him scum went through his head and was an action he decided to consciously take as scum. That's just, so much early game when really it isn't needed at all.
@Midway Wah? Huh? I just like the emojis! :(
My push made sense on page 1 (rvs, didn't want to vote votato)In post 204, Nahdia wrote:@dunn asked you a question earlier. do you still stand by the reasoning you gave for the early skitter push? is there any more context?
Then skitter/lilith/votato reacted to it like crazy and it kept going-
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Do you think I'm town then?In post 161, Tuxedo Mask wrote:It's not my only take but it's the one I wanted to start with.
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Beeboy's first five posts are nothing. And I consider them a deliberate distraction because he actually demands they get attention and responses. After the thread has slowed down to just say hi and talk about fluff with him then he jumps in with a weak defense of Dunnstral.
Like he doesn't say that this game is different from scum Dunnstral he's seen. He says that "by nature" Dunnstral scum doesn't play like this. Implying he's almost incapable of it, and it's based on only one game. It feels much stronger than evidence supports.-
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Yep, that's what I'm on aboutIn post 166, drusilla wrote:trying to delineate between these arguments feels pretty forced to me. skitter actively chose to use exclamation points in a way that is uncommon for her.-
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Not enough info to have a good read there yetIn post 174, Tuxedo Mask wrote:@Dunnstral how do you feel about Beeboy?-
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scumposting.In post 187, Nahdia wrote:hi sorry i intended to enter the game in earnest earlier but a lot happened today. was kinda hoping someone would react to my first post but i guess you all just don't care about me. i see how it is.
dunnstral how serious was your early push on skitter? do you still stand by that reasoning you gave?
skitter's reaction to dunn's push is kinda towny imo.
blah blah blah
In post 121, Clover Ebi wrote:Am I the only one who is getting like, no scum pings from Dunnstral/Skitter/Lilith/Votato? I got townie pings from the first 3 and nothing from Votato. Just me? Okay.
VOTE: Clover Ebi
Nope Clover is towny.
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HAHAAHAHAHAIn post 190, midwaybear wrote:Tux's entrance is very similar to dunnstral's because they both picked bad reasons to scumread someone.-
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Because it's a fake persona.In post 215, skitter30 wrote:you still haven't explained why 'exclamation points being uncommon for me' and ' being a vote-worthy behavior-
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Well you've seen me play mafia twice and I never really played like this from the get goIn post 236, midwaybear wrote:
lol it was a half-joke, but basicallyIn post 217, Morning Tweet wrote:lso, wtf -- this comes a bit after Lilith started a push on Clover that votato joined. You didnt mention Clover in your catchup post. what prompted you to theorize out of the blue that clover is using emojis to hide nervousness? Just seeing a couple of emojis?
To wolfy to be a wolf. It's sorta like votato's point that Dunnstral is town because his push was bad. I disagree with this because I don't think being anti-town is exclusively for town. I think scum can act anti-town to get the village to ignore them. In fact, it's a viable strategy for scum to act anti-town if you believe in this TWTBAW logic.In post 229, lilith2013 wrote:What's TWTBAW?
I don't think I ever said that his argument was townie.In post 235, Kanna wrote:tux's argument = not good = townie-
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dot dot dotIn post 250, Nahdia wrote:The logic doesn't make him look bad, but beeboy's attitude does. beeboy engages tux, tux responds to beeboy, and suddenly beeboy is smearing him as "centering all his content around this 1v1" (I explained why this doesn't make sense) and he's frustrating because "I see things clearly other people aren't" (the exchange had literally just begun virtually no one else checking in).
What are you talking about-
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Yeah, I don't see itIn post 255, Nahdia wrote:
do you disagree or..?In post 253, Dunnstral wrote:
dot dot dotIn post 250, Nahdia wrote:The logic doesn't make him look bad, but beeboy's attitude does. beeboy engages tux, tux responds to beeboy, and suddenly beeboy is smearing him as "centering all his content around this 1v1" (I explained why this doesn't make sense) and he's frustrating because "I see things clearly other people aren't" (the exchange had literally just begun virtually no one else checking in).
What are you talking about-
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In post 124, votato wrote:i think skitter is town and lilith is prolly townish, but i think for lilith ill wait until later to sort her. i get solid townpings from votato. perhaps my strongest townread. something is off for sure about dunnstral. the logical conclusion is that dunn is scum.-
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In post 258, Hectic wrote:
It's the leading wagon and you immediately started shading tux after the votecount was postedIn post 270, votato wrote:
Do i though? I don't think there's an up and coming wagon on tux for example. Conversely, i haven't stated a scum read on nahdiaIn post 265, Dunnstral wrote:oh and votato seems to scumread every up and coming wagon which feels wrong to me-
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In post 76, lilith2013 wrote:I don’t think that’s what’s happening here though - votato seems to be simultaneously calling dunn probtown while keeping his options open to scumread dunn. I don’t think it’s a case of “haven’t found a better vote,” he pretty explicitly said he’s still voting dunn because he could be scum.
This feels like her method to shade/vote whoever she wants.In post 133, lilith2013 wrote:What a strange post. You’re talking to me like you know I’m town and you’re talking about Dunn like you know he’s town and you’re trying to defend him but you’re not actually pointing out anything towny about him, it’s a very null defense.
I'm not seeing any anger in her posts. She doesn't feel snarky - she'sslimy, she seems to h ave an agenda to push-
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This isn't a good reason to scumread meIn post 138, midwaybear wrote:Him remaining so stubborn makes me feel good about this.-
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nice shadingIn post 391, midwaybear wrote:nice sheeping-
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I feel like I've answer multiple times, the gist is that it seemed like a fake persona. a.k.a. not how she would naturally type out her posts, and I believe that to be scummyIn post 466, Raven Branwen wrote:@Dunn, can you please answer my Skitter question? Thanks.-
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I'm skimming the last ~8 pages.
Why am I probably scum? You've seen me as scum twice now, come on now.In post 571, midwaybear wrote:lilith, beeboy, votato, mt are probably town
kanna seems legit
nahdia, skitter, clover, tux have a good amount of posts but I may have not been paying attention
idk about drusilla and raven
dunnstral is probably scum
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I've only seen him through the lens of being scum - he tends to get pushed as a mislynch option by town throughout the gameIn post 586, Clover Ebi wrote:Now that I'm speaking outloud I just wanna kinda move my vote to here VOTE: midway So his meta is he's scummy as town but...scummy as scum? That could be a really easily used defense and I just kinda want to put some pressure here see where it leads.
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I thought you played well as scum in that newbie game.In post 705, lilith2013 wrote:I'm positive there's scum on my wagon. I can't understand anyone who's seriously scumreading me - if you think I am capable of creating this much content with so many different underlying threads going on when I'm scum, then I'm actually super flattered you think I'm that good, but I feel like I'm the most obvtown slot in this game.
re: Raven/Nahdia wagons, they have 0 traction somehow! literally it's just me and skitter voting them.. if they are in fact low hanging fruit, then scum should have been all over those wagons.
But fine, admittedly I've only been skimming for the past few days, and there is a large amount of people saying you are town.
I think the way he kept his vote on me the whole time has been awkward scummy so... this is a wagon I approve ofIn post 586, Clover Ebi wrote:Now that I'm speaking outloud I just wanna kinda move my vote to here VOTE: midway So his meta is he's scummy as town but...scummy as scum? That could be a really easily used defense and I just kinda want to put some pressure here see where it leads.
pedit: Yeah just give me a sec. Headache coming in again
VOTE: midwaybear-
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