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VOTE: Titus

Long time no see there

A blast from the past. You were in my first scumgame on site. Brings back memories.

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Post 25 kills my soul. All the votes lost, never a VC to be had.

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Hoctac, your schtick is not fooling anyone and it's annoying me.

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You got anything good, Pigman? I'm willing to trade.

man I don't even know lol I am gonna need some help here.

I'll help you.

*gestures towards fryer*

We all love bacon. Show me your card. We'll make nice bacon.

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I'll give my card to nice vegans

That grandma of that little red riding hood was a vegan...

*hides teeth*

Sure I'm vegan. If you don't count me huffing and puffing.

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No bad! I don't want to give it to Titus.

Don't like my open wolfing...awe shucks.

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Personally I just want to be in a neighborhood, but the Lucifer and Raziel one seems the most fun to me so I would rather do that.

How pissed would you be if not Lucifer/Raziel targeted you?

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I'll start us off: I found it odd that Titus was annoyed by me messing around but then started joking around with Pigman straight after.

I was annoyed not bc memeing but that you were playing dumb.

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I wouldn't be 'pissed' I would be more sad/disappointed than anything else. If someone wanted to throw a card at me I would hope they explain why afterwards if it wasn't the Lucifer card.

What about Uriel?

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I want someone who I am familiar with (beyond one game) to have my card.

Throw: Dr. Pepper

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Throw: Titus

Probably a nightkill early if town so they might actually have a use for this ability

What did you throw me?

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Who is left? Does Pigman have to throw to himself?

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Who is left? Does Pigman have to throw to himself?

It is not possible to throw to yourself

Right which means we go to vanilla.

So who does Pigman throw to?

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VOTE: Clidd

Hi.

Also hi elements.

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What do you think of Pigman ?

Easy scapegoat from what I can tell.

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Does Pigman sounds as a scapegoat to you, Elements ?

Why aren't you stating your own opinion here?

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Hoctac might be scum here.

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VOTE: Hoctac

Dr. Let's see how the patient responds to treatment.

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I dont really see the town motivation behind fishing for support before expressing your own ideas.

VOTE: clidd

Hi, Pigman. It's interesting how you've worded this. If clidd is "fishing for support", sure, that implies he's scum looking to see whether there's support to push a mislynch on you. However, if he dislikes you, but is afraid that he's simply scumleaning a scapepig, it'd make sense why he'd first ask for others' opinions, to see if they see the same thing he sees, and whether he's on the right track.

Why have you discounted the latter?

also how does everyone else's opinion help you form a read on me? Aren't you supposed to be able to make your own observations? It seems like a bit of a cop-out if you ask me because then you can just blame a bad read on everyone else.

How am I a scapegoat?

Second this, as in what are people actually talking about? Scapegoat for what? Who called him scum?

clidd is working his way up to a scumread on me but he's trying to figure out if there will be support for it first.

I dont really see the town motivation behind fishing for support before expressing your own ideas.

VOTE: clidd

I think Pigman's progression on clidd is overblown and unnatural. Kind of like a pyramid shaped balloon.

VOTE: Pigman

Dunny, Pigman was my strongest townlean start of game, and I think bodyguard is better given to someone who is unlikely to be nightkilled. Axolotyls are far too cute and I've never seen one get nightkilled before.

Hoctac goes from townreading Pigman and slyly defending Clidd to immediately voting Pigman. His tone also feels more apologetic in nature.

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I have been more passive tbh. Aside from hating D1, my emotional and physical health is not where I want it to be.

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This game is rather stale. Where are the Hoctac scumreads coming from?

I literally just answered that a few posts above.

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I feel like this whole thread needs a kick in the pants. So I'll put out a theory.

The answer is Clidd/Hoctac. Outside shot of DP or Elena with Hoctac.

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Why is attacker bad? Second, what if the attackers are all town?

Two mafia in love sounds good to me.

The color reveal is by far the worst one.

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The color reveal requires living players of each color to reveal.

Scum can force it. Then if they leash their nightkill, they can rig it to nothing revealed at all. From a strategic perspective alone, a Dunn lynch isn't bad but I think Dunn is town. I would explain how scum could rig color reveal to get nothing via lynch and kill coordination but that would be anti-town.

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1. The mafia nightkill will be treated as compulsive this game.

My analysis supposes that and a compulsive lynch.

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hello prod received I will read over that wall tomorrow

I skipped and partially skimmed the walls. There's only setup spec that's just wrong.

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VOTE: DoctorMiranda

I am not looking at your wall of nicknames each time you vote.

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From a strategic perspective alone, a Dunn lynch isn't bad but I think Dunn is town.

Dunn is never night killed N1 or N1

He's my first choice to kill n1 strategy wise only.

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Why? You seemed so certain against that in 303. How am I suddenly onto something?

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I am currently having a battle with depression. I am not VLA but please be understanding if I don't post as well as I usually do. This is NAI. I will try to hang in there for one more game day but if my depression gets worse, I may sub out. I am taking it day by day. If I do sub out, it will be across all games.

Xpost all games

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GeorgeBailey replaces clidd effective immediately

Hi George. Sorry you drew scum.

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Work week over, allow me to catch up this weekend and try to explain why I shouldn't be wagonned.

When even you need time to figure out why you shouldn't be voted, that's not a great look

If it's because I haven't been engaged in the game, then idk why. Everything I'm doing is honestly NAI at best so I find it so weird that there's a push on me

This leads me to think the push on me is not townie motivated

Join me on Hoctac.

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scum wants to throw to their teammate to make sure they get some sort of confirmable role. Scum is obviously not going to throw to each other,

Can you rephrase this?

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Can you rephrase this?

Scum A is likely to throw to scum B
while Scum B will throw randomly

Why? How do you determine who is scum A and who is Scum B?

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VLA this weekend

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Yeah, this reeks of scum wanting to get rid of a PR.

GB and Hoctac is where it's at.

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I admit I didn't read all of Shiki's wall but I feel he's town for the portion where he talks about Dr. Pepper and I not being teamed. That type of self reflection is rare from scum. I think he's wrong, and I could be wrong but Shiki just feels town there. Scum would just claim we're partners and move on to selling his wagon.

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I'm warming to Hoctac town

Smh, the objection to Dunn and Pigman being aligned pairs hurts Hoctac scum if my theory is correct. A mislynch on Dunn would bar a mislynch on Pigman which is why Hoctac suddenly changed his tone towards me. It was that I was wrong town, but now he's looking for something to pick at when I have SRed him for awhile.

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Also, why would she as scum necessarily call you partners and push you, when she can push you individually as scumreads anyway? This looks like a fabricated thought process.

She can't push us as a team though. Let's suppose I am wrong and Dunn is scum. She then wouldn't jump and mislynch me. That's a townie thought process to take a theory to its conclusion, even if it disagrees with another theory.

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*sigh*

I'll just wait for the GB or Hoctac wagons.

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Q

Yeah, this reeks of scum wanting to get rid of a PR.

GB and Hoctac is where it's at.

This is quite narrow minded, Titus!

You think scum are openly voting with each other to get rid of a 1-shot neighbouriser on day 1? As someone pointed out, the ability isn't exactly Lady with Laptop level.

Why Hoctac and GeorgeBailey from the wagon of 4 specifically?

I'd also like you to address this, Titus.

I addressed this ad nauseam btw. You two are my lock scum reads.

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VOTE: George Bsiley

I'm going to sigh at us lynching the strongest PR in the game. I know that's controversial but I legit feel like that.

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I do think neighborizer is the most powerful role. That's why I threw it to Dr. Pepper. He'd use it appropriately. Having two town neighborizer together is immensely powerful.

The other options were Hotac and George Bailey. They weren't about to vote for themselves.

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I want someone who I am familiar with (beyond one game) to have my card.

Throw: Dr. Pepper

When you threw this to DoctarMiranda, where you implying he should neighbourise you, or just that you want someone you know to have it?

Someone I knew who could make the strategic decisions that would benefit town. I would have been a candidate, but not the only one.

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VOTE: pigman

Why?

I don't town read them at at this point that is my strongest read

This is so lazy. You’ve done nothing at all to sort me. How on earth can you have me as your strongest read when you’ve hardly interacted with me nor questioned me about anything? Not to mention the fact that there’s so much more content from other slots that are far more suspicious than the few I’ve managed to get out considering I’ve been lost and struggling to keep up with this game in the first place.

Town

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Huh, why is Dunny lurking this game out so much. Get back in here, Dunny.

VOTE: Dunny

People should really start placing their votes today.

My pool is shiki/Dunny/Elements.

That said though, Titus, you not interested in any VCA this time around?

I'm waiting for more data for my VCA and hopefully a more contested flip.

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Hi, I don't want to lynch Pigman, Shiki, or GeorgeBailey

Why not GB? I agree on the first two.

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I thought the neighbor stuff looked good.

I don't think Elena dies there if GB is scum

Elena said neighbors get a pass D1, that's it.

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Hey, I am going to point out the obvious. Everyone I try to work with is getting fucking wagoned. Maybe it's time to see it's Hoctac and GB.

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Dueling treestumps is a thing, complete with a draft.

Hoctac and George are still scum.

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Hey, I am going to point out the obvious. Everyone I try to work with is getting fucking wagoned. Maybe it's time to see it's Hoctac and GB.

Since when were you trying to work with Ele? Show me the post.

Specific post, I can't but I have been pretty clear I want to work with anyone who suspects you.

It's rather hard to do anything in this stalled gamestate. Scum are obvious but no one's listening.

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@Titus: What have you learnt from today? You expertly caught George and I yesterday for voting Pigman together, but have your reads changed at all since then? What did you think of clidd from the hood?

Nothing, other than town are stubborn and lazy. The game is already solved. There is nothing more to learn.

I was not in a hood with Clidd.

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Where has all this titus hate come from

Hoctac. Dunn is agency captured at this point.

Lynching me means scum can shoot Dunn and deny us any information in our symbols.

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Deadline is in literally 2 days, Hoctac whines about me not being here but ignores George Bailey. Like I don't know what else to do here. Scumteam is obvious.

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story of the pyramid destined for heaven or hell

Read this hood and tell me what you think of clidd from it.

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Drunk Titus will tonight

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If we lynch scum today:

Dunny should pick Devil.
Titus should switch to a Devil/Physical.

If we lynch town today:

Dunny should pick God.
Titus should remain as God/Healer.

(Assuming we lynch neither of them obviously)

I'd recommend this, Dunny. It's pretty clear-cut imo.

Sure why not. My pick will be based on optimal setup bonus. But let's be real here, I am not nightkilled too discredited because too right on GB and maybe Hoctac

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I guess if shiki is scum, it's probably with Dunny.

Who do you prefer to lynch today, shiki?

Dunny, why is Titus scummy?

This is avatar is really starting to grow on me. I wonder if people would mind if I changed all of my accounts to this avatar...

I'd prefer if you didn't. It artificially inflates GB's presence due to confusion.

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There's not going to be "a lot of resistance" in a game with only 2 scum

How were you interpreting Dunny's role here, Titus? Why did you think shooting him would mean no information?

Titus, can you answer this

Yeah, you have all four symbols. Scum shoot you, we're in color match. I'm lynched. There's no one nked to get information from. No alignment reveals at all.

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There's not going to be "a lot of resistance" in a game with only 2 scum

How were you interpreting Dunny's role here, Titus? Why did you think shooting him would mean no information?

Titus, can you answer this

Yeah, you have all four symbols. Scum shoot you, we're in color match. I'm lynched. There's no one nked to get information from. No alignment reveals at all.

N2 Dunn picks one of the 4 sybols to keep and loses the other three

I feel dumb. My whole approach was to see who took advantage of the situation that didn't exist.

I'll be over here in timeout.

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story of the pyramid destined for heaven or hell

Read this hood and tell me what you think of clidd from it.

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Do I have stealth mode activated? Maybe these card eggs do more than Isis is letting on and Titus simply can't see my posts.

I've noticed it and acknowledged it. I just haven't done it yet, because drunk and assumed you were scum looking to create a distraction. So it was low on my priority list. Now that I know I have been the class dumbass, I'll make it a priority to read through that.

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VOTE: Elements

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Deadline was 11 minutes, needed a lynch

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Not so sure I'd call Shiki town based on their comments. They could easily be scum hoping for an NL and went oh shit when I came back from my Saturday night game group early.

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Scum being allowed to give themselves IC is bullshit and should be taken out of future runnings of this setup.

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I am in full reset mode. My theory was objectively proven wrong twice.

VOTE: Dunn

Still think it could be shiki but my theory is admittedly weaker than when I posted.

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Dunn, who is scum?

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Pretty much we need 3 people who TR each other who aren't scum. Then we win.

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I'm very anxious about how this turns out. I doubt Pigman was the mastermind behind the lynch scum IC fiasco but I see she might not be able to live until lylo.

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VOTE: Pigman

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Thanks for nodding Isis.

Town, don't feel bad about the lylo. I wouldn't have done any better.