Mini Theme 2412: Gacha Mafia

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I've got the phantom ninja egg and I can't think of a way it could be helpful other than being on the board

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there seems to be an uncharacteristic quantity of sucmhunting from you Hoctac

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more than I'm used to

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was that before or after the mini scum destroyed us?

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After. That game had quite a lot scumhunting too though, even if some was fake.

rlly? i feel like you're generally more chaotic.
although now I think about it that could just be in large games

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I've got the bah post one, I can give that to pigman

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could we get an updated distribution status please

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throw:pigman

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VOTE: titus because i can't remember anything you've said so far and you're at the bottom

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good to remember you titus
VOTE: clidd

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VOTE: Elements

He probably has the worst vote I've seen on the wagon and he's a bit more subdued than I remember.

We've played together before?

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think people think pigman is a scapepig not a scapegoat. But i don't get why.

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I'm illiterate who's the bodyguard

Elements is

Oh that's fun!

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Forgive my ignorance but Hoctac, isn't the color coding just the color of the Card Egg thrown to you?

I mean Chemist is green because my card egg was green

that is exactly what it means and he knew it. Have you played with hoctac before?

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^is Hoctac also Hectic?

yes

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VOTE: hoctac

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he's being annoying

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he's being annoying

Ok... that doesn't really help me

dw, ill probably change it to elana or chemist soon

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This game is going slowly let's do some fun setup analysis.
All same coloured cards share a type.
Two night kills for a card effect, that makes 4 deaths and 5 players remaining.

Let's start with only town lynches.
The game is in lylo and a card effect activates:

2 Attackers : The living mafia become lovers.
The game becomes one lynch and the game ends. Scum will have to push their buddy as town much more heavily and won't be able to bus for distancing reasons.

2 Healers : The town HEAL: s two players in a vote. If both those players are town, the town wins, otherwise, the mafia wins.
From random guesses there's a 3/10 chance of town winning just from random guessing, which aren't great odds. Everyone presumably starts by voting for themselves?

2 Devils : The town chooses a player, that player is public cop'ed.
2/5 chance of hitting scum. If we do then we can have a free day of association analysis from the previous two days and another night kill to look at. If we don't we have a 1 day IC who will get killed off the next night.

2 Gods : If there are two living mafia, the mafia immediately strongkills one mafia and one townie. If there is one living mafia, that player public cops two other players.
5 player lylo to 3 player lylo. A whole gallon of WIFOM over why scum chose which one of them they did more so than night kill WIFOM.

Colour Reveals
A better version of 2 Devils.



Town lynch and scum lynch:
The game is not in lylo and a card effect activates:

2 Attackers : The living mafia become lovers.
Does nothing.

2 Healers : The town HEAL: s two players in a vote. If both those players are town, the town wins, otherwise, the mafia wins.
From random guesses there's a 3/5 chance of winning which is great. The remaining scum has to be the most town read player. Some WIFOM but I don't think scum picks this option if they aren't the most town read.

2 Devils : The town chooses a player, that player is public cop'ed.
1/5 chance of hitting the last scum. If we do, we win. If we don't we have a one day IC and 4 players to sort.

2 Gods : If there are two living mafia, the mafia immediately strongkills one mafia and one townie. If there is one living mafia, that player public cops two other players.
Basically 2 devils.

Colour Reveals
A better version of 2 Devils.

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The color reveal requires living players of each color to reveal.

Scum can force it. Then if they leash their nightkill, they can rig it to nothing revealed at all. From a strategic perspective alone, a Dunn lynch isn't bad but I think Dunn is town. I would explain how scum could rig color reveal to get nothing via lynch and kill coordination but that would be anti-town.

That is true. I didn't consider the lynches removing the colour partners from play.

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hello prod received I will read over that wall tomorrow

I skipped and partially skimmed the walls. There's only setup spec that's just wrong.

fite me

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maybe god and devil are the best with the public coping and literal killing of mafia.
no scum lynches, 2 healers is the worst by quite a way.
devil > god at that point?

1 scum lynch
healer becomes viable
God >> everything else
devil is good but not great

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hello prod received I will read over that wall tomorrow

I skipped and partially skimmed the walls. There's only setup spec that's just wrong.

fite me

not that you're wrong

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From a strategic perspective alone, a Dunn lynch isn't bad but I think Dunn is town.

Dunn is never night killed N1 or N1

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Elements what are your non-mechanical takes rn

I don't rlly have any which is why i did setup spec.
titus is town

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From a strategic perspective alone, a Dunn lynch isn't bad but I think Dunn is town.

Dunn is never night killed N1 or N1

He's my first choice to kill n1 strategy wise only.

i think you may be onto something here

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Why? You seemed so certain against that in 303. How am I suddenly onto something?

were you not being sarcastic?

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titus is town

Why are you questioning me so much?
VOTE: chemist

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I mean, I know I'm an attractive axolotl but questioning me relentlessly (yes I know it's 2 posts this is for hyperbole and I've just been listening to a bunch of D&D horror stories so I'm fuelled with the way crit crab's voice makes you feel) is not the way to my heart.

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titus is town

Why are you questioning me so much?
VOTE: chemist

what

you asked about my non mech takes and I told you I don't rlly have any except titus is town. Then you ask me again. that's all you've done. haven't said any of your own take or asked anyone else theirs. Just me. Yes this is from just 2 of your posts but it shows you exist and have read the game enough to comment on current affairs. I think my vote is perfectly valid. Which is very surprising for me.

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help in what capacity.
I'm currently stuck in a house with my immune suppressed mother so if you need help putting up cabinets or similar no can do I'm afraid

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no, which is why my vote has been placed there

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I believe I'll join you for now.
VOTE: Chem

this is contradictory
VOTE: elana

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VOTE: chemist

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do scum both vote the same player D1 this game?

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Can you rephrase this?

Scum A is likely to throw to scum B
while Scum B will throw randomly

Why? How do you determine who is scum A and who is Scum B?

Presumably scum A is the first scum to throw or the one with the more desirable role

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must be my natural charisma

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VOTE: DoctorPepper
L-1

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Yeah, this reeks of scum wanting to get rid of a PR.

GB and Hoctac is where it's at.

I disagree about GB but Im with you on the hoctac front

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Why are you sus of me, Ele?

I'm always suspicious of you

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VOTE: pigman

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My first vote was RVS then she said hi to me

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I'm warming to Hoctac town

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spicy

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VOTE: shiki

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it's still chemist's slot and there hasn't been anything that's been strikingly town from shiki

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who's him?

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why am i scared about elana voting dp?

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I believe I'll join you for now.
VOTE: Chem

this is contradictory
VOTE: elana

VOTE: chemist

What did you think was contradictory before you switched back to Misty?

I remember it was definitely meant as a joke, but I cannot remember what or why I found it ammusing.

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VOTE: pigman

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I don't town read them at at this point that is my strongest read

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VOTE: pigman

Why?

I don't town read them at at this point that is my strongest read

This is so lazy. You’ve done nothing at all to sort me. How on earth can you have me as your strongest read when you’ve hardly interacted with me nor questioned me about anything? Not to mention the fact that there’s so much more content from other slots that are far more suspicious than the few I’ve managed to get out considering I’ve been lost and struggling to keep up with this game in the first place.

Why are you so angry?

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don't sheep elena she has bad reads.
This is exactly what happened in the mini Hoctic. Scum killed the person who scumread me and then pushed my lynch.
VOTE: georgebailey

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don't sheep elena she has bad reads.
This is exactly what happened in the mini Hoctic. Scum killed the person who scumread me and then pushed my lynch.
VOTE: georgebailey

That doesn't work unless George is scum though, and since when have you been scumreading clidd/George's slot?

That's why I've started scumreading GB. He comment about sheeping Elena

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Titus is probably my strongest townread at the moment

followed by elements,

I think.

This is so lazy. You’ve done nothing at all to sort me. How on earth can you have me as your strongest read when you’ve hardly interacted with me nor questioned me about anything? Not to mention the fact that there’s so much more content from other slots that are far more suspicious than the few I’ve managed to get out considering I’ve been lost and struggling to keep up with this game in the first place.

is this what you're townreading?

No. The read was mostly based on day one play. But the way their read on me “developed” seems baseless and fake af. Like how do you interact with everyone else but me and then say “he’s my strongest read”. Lol? So no not anymore.

The point was I had so few reads at the time that not thinking you're town was a read.

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our constant picturre changing is not helpful hoctac

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Where has all this titus hate come from

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There's not going to be "a lot of resistance" in a game with only 2 scum

How were you interpreting Dunny's role here, Titus? Why did you think shooting him would mean no information?

Titus, can you answer this

Yeah, you have all four symbols. Scum shoot you, we're in color match. I'm lynched. There's no one nked to get information from. No alignment reveals at all.

N2 Dunn picks one of the 4 sybols to keep and loses the other three

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Scum PT is released once Elements and Shiki confirm

/comfirm

Thanks Isis, your setups and flavour are always good fun. And I seems to win when you mod so keep up the good work.