Or scum was in the 1st group. Which is why i think spring is scum still.In post 2260, beeboy wrote:What Spring, Raya and I were going over towards the start of the day was scum had a 1-shot Tamper in order to prevent town from chain getting successful groups. By having more then 1 tamper it becomes stacked against town since 2 guaranteed failures combined with the low odds of getting an all town group makes the mechanic too scum sided.In post 2259, farside22 wrote:I thought you believed scum had something to mess with the quiz?
By running it back if it fails we know the group has scum because they shouldn't have 2 tampers.
Or the group succeeds, we gain the power role + random conf town (the one who gains the PR).
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Well whoever is part of the quiz, we do need to approve it.
I have no desire to be part of the quiz team. Im a bit paranoid at the idea of a scum player that can switch votes theory that was presented.
I feel better about titus play over abr.
Till i see spring lynched I won't feel much satisfaction, unless its tse.
Id say im null on ndmath, feeling null on titus. This is not outside her ability as scum to do but she at least reads like she is sorting people.
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Because I think your scum and would rather see you lynched.In post 2277, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:Why did you decline the quiz?
Scum either shot unwnd (would clear scum in theory but the failed attempt still lingers), there is a role that protected someone, or scum didn't shot.In post 2278, Raya36 wrote:
I honestly don't think so because they would have known who was getting the chain and the no kill suggests they targeted the BP. Just a theory though I guessIn post 2262, farside22 wrote:
Or scum was in the 1st group. Which is why i think spring is scum still.In post 2260, beeboy wrote:
What Spring, Raya and I were going over towards the start of the day was scum had a 1-shot Tamper in order to prevent town from chain getting successful groups. By having more then 1 tamper it becomes stacked against town since 2 guaranteed failures combined with the low odds of getting an all town group makes the mechanic too scum sided.In post 2259, farside22 wrote:I thought you believed scum had something to mess with the quiz?
By running it back if it fails we know the group has scum because they shouldn't have 2 tampers.
Or the group succeeds, we gain the power role + random conf town (the one who gains the PR).
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Tse you had 2 questions you asked in your quote. This was the one i was saying no too.
But you keep throwing shit on the wall. You have beeboy convinced your town.
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I love that idea.In post 2312, Titus wrote:Midway, you're self admitted survivalist and wish washy on reads. You say neither of those are enough to warrant a scumread on you. The question is, what would be a better standard? Who would then be scum? I don't see much solving but instead objecting to ours.
Also
*mutes TSE*
I don't know about shade but i like the town block.In post 2331, Titus wrote:
I wasn't being sarcastic. Raya/Farside/Starbuck reads like an all town block scum are desperate to shade.In post 2330, unwnd wrote:I think she was being sarcastic, which begs the question what her problem with my post was
If your town with your role, why dont you think scum could have the same role?In post 2338, unwnd wrote:
That is honestly a very disappointing take from your end, I just don't think why you think this situation is normal in light of us just coming back from a failed quiz. Like, maybe you missed hte memo? There is one scum between Raya/Farside/Starbuck/Spring/Dunn who were all on the quiz. I've read into Beeboy's theory about scum being able to fuck with results but that goes against my own role and I think it'd be boring setup design to have a pure counter to each role present.In post 2331, Titus wrote:
I wasn't being sarcastic. Raya/Farside/Starbuck reads like an all town block scum are desperate to shade.In post 2330, unwnd wrote:I think she was being sarcastic, which begs the question what her problem with my post was
We could go with lynching spring.In post 2344, Titus wrote:
You just speculated that two scum could be in R/F/Starbuck. Now, you seem certain there's only one.In post 2338, unwnd wrote:There is one scum between Raya/Farside/Starbuck/Spring/Dunn who were all on the quiz
There's nothing preventing scum from being in Spring/Dunn.
I'd go 1v1 with that.
God that would be the best thing ever.In post 2354, Pink Ball wrote:Dude can we just lynch TSE? I don't give a flying fuckSarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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Because your first question was something i already stated in thread.In post 2358, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:
Why focus on that when that question was just a response to the other question regarding you being scum.In post 2355, farside22 wrote:Tse you had 2 questions you asked in your quote. This was the one i was saying no too.
But you keep throwing shit on the wall. You have beeboy convinced your town.
Good job.
How about this.
We lynch you if your town i accept my lynch.
That is the only way anyone should accept.
You saying mid is town can come from scum.
I dont trust anyone hear to follow my scum read of you.
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TSE is basically saying once your dead he should be chain leader. What's the difference and he is super confident in you flipping town.In post 2363, midwaybear wrote:mmm
I honestly don't really like the deals where someone says "we lynch [player] and if I'm wrong, you guys can lynch me" because it's super hard tunneling and the other person manages to talk their way out of it the next day.Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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Not anti-town. I don't see anything town from you. You basically just throw out the same thing over and over without a reason and call something scummy that isn't.In post 2365, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:
Your either scum or you gotta learn how to not be so Anti-Town.In post 2361, farside22 wrote:
Because your first question was something i already stated in thread.In post 2358, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:
Why focus on that when that question was just a response to the other question regarding you being scum.In post 2355, farside22 wrote:Tse you had 2 questions you asked in your quote. This was the one i was saying no too.
But you keep throwing shit on the wall. You have beeboy convinced your town.
Good job.
How about this.
We lynch you if your town i accept my lynch.
That is the only way anyone should accept.
You saying mid is town can come from scum.
I dont trust anyone hear to follow my scum read of you.
Your in the bottom. Lynch you, profit.
You called yourself a good scum hunter, but you basically called out players who call you scum.
And the last straw is you making something a scum tell that isn't.
Oh and a super confident town read on Mid? When most scum read a player is classic scum tell 101.
But hey thanks for reminding me why i left MS for the time I did. You have brought back many, many unpleasant memories for me.Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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Cakez flipped town.In post 2388, Titus wrote:
Fos Lully and CakezIn post 589, Albert B. Rampage wrote:heres a good group:
Farside
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Me
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BeeboyNDMath 598
Boom.
Unwnd and Starbuck should be town.In post 618, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
UnwndIn post 615, springlullaby wrote:
So you have no other scum lead than starbuck?In post 609, Albert B. Rampage wrote:So why the fuck should we approve a list of players we want to lynch?
Starbuck
My main scumreads right now.
Spring said she thought Abr had some day cop ability, which i rhought sounded like crap. And theres pages of spring arguing for the sake of arguing.
@sb: i said from the start i didn't want to fight with you because this was your first game back and just thought you'd be more excited to play.
The toxicty of tse is way above that. This is day 2 of a game reading it. And ive told him repeatedly i would not engage with his attitude as i find it more a scum tactic. I wouldn't compare my attitude to his.Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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In post 668, Albert B. Rampage wrote:starbuck is scum i guarantee it. Spring is on a massive power trip refusing to PASS THE CHAIN.In post 672, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Youre scum Starbuck
Youre getting lynched one way or another
If youre on the quiz team we gonna fail this fucking quiz and ill make sure of it because in return we will see your scum head roll
PASS THE CHAIN SPRINGIn post 675, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
How do I put this...okay...In post 673, springlullaby wrote:Who is the tyrant now.
Starbuck is Marie Antoinette... you are like her servant that helps her put on those phat ass gowns with the feathers... and we, the people of France, are gonna divide her body in two at the neck.
We're gonna be a republic now. The era of the royalty is finished.
PASS THE CHAIN SPRINGIn post 571, springlullaby wrote:
Ok, you are scum.In post 570, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
I dont give a single fuck about that! My scumhunting is so good i need a handicap!In post 567, springlullaby wrote:OK, stop. HAVE YOU READ THAT DENYING THE QUIZ TEAM IS AN AUTOMATIC ADVANTAGE FOR SCUM?In post 590, springlullaby wrote:In post 580, Albert B. Rampage wrote:we need to give the fucking team seats to the TOWNIEST players aka the least likely to be lynched. Whats so difficult to understand?
Yeah, ok, ABR needs to be lynched. He doesn't make that many mistakes as town.In post 606, springlullaby wrote:
Once we agree on the team, it means we don't lynch them. Anyone making this happen is scum.In post 585, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
If we lynch them the quiz automatically fails.In post 582, beeboy wrote:I dont think the team gets lynch immunity its only the team leader and the chain leader.
You think very strangely.In post 680, springlullaby wrote:No, I'm putting up a quizz team without starbuck on it. You have zero reason to refuse.In post 682, springlullaby wrote:Just to be clear, I'm supposing that was a softclaim of somekind ABR.
No way out of it otherwise.
Don't know if this will help bur it was spring that started to scum read abr the said she thought the post were abr guarentee star as scum that spring took as a soft claim.
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Not that I recall. The strangest thing I remember is that mid never said he had a town read on Dunn so why he passed to Dunn then and there was off.In post 2399, Titus wrote:Was there anything weird about the pass from midway to Dunn?
Why titus over spring?In post 2425, Pink Ball wrote:I'm fine with saying that there's one scum in {spring,Titus}, that I'm more inclined to Titus and that I hope I don't have to take that decision
Where did this read come from? When did you start reading Raya/SB as maybe a scum between the 2?In post 2430, Dunnstral wrote:In post 2285, unwnd wrote:I fail to understand what you're doing but you're at least more active than NDmath, what are your thoughts right now?
Hi. I'd like to hear what you think about the next quiz group, I think we should sort that out asap.In post 2286, unwnd wrote:Or just say nothing that's cool too
I think there's scum in Raya/Starbuck, leaning Raya. I think Spring is town. I'm not sure on Midway, not really scumreading him. Titus looks like Scum.
When I asked Pink Ball if he was approving or denying the quiz he gave me a nonanswer which is kind of sus, though the post was fineSarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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She's just thinking out loud. It's pretty NAI.In post 2445, Dunnstral wrote:In post 2386, Titus wrote:My theory, shall it be accepted, is that spring is scum. ABR was loud, vocal, and wrong. Scum wanted him alive and had Spring do it because they feared that ABR would be left out due to toxicity, thus losing a townbeard.
Let's see who ABR suspected.
I don't like these posts. This doesn't feel like real analysis.In post 2387, Titus wrote:
There should be at least one scum in here, if my theory holds. My eyes jump to Dunn and SirCakez.In post 561, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
This is a team I will approve.In post 558, beeboy wrote:Dunnstral
Cakez
Pinkball
Raya
TSE
that was my team.
TSE is a stubborn guy but that doesn't change his role card.
I don't care if I have to deny 3 times, if you put forward a dealbreaker team then it's no deal and no quiz tonight.
I've pretty much don't have much to think about Dunn. I recall PB had/has a scum read on the spot but I was focused on TSE/Spring/ABR scum team thoughts.In post 2450, Titus wrote:
Where does this expectation I have read come from?In post 2446, Dunnstral wrote:Also why do her eyes 'jump to SirCakez'? Obviously she hasn't been reading the guys posts!
Farside, what do you think of my theory? My biggest concern about it is beeboy but I think it's pretty solid. Particularly with Dunn waking up from the dead after I proposed it.
Dunn has been pretty null. Looking at him I see a follow up questions that really don't go anywhere. He asked about a read on SB in the pt quiz. I didn't see a point to the question as it was asking my read on her, it was pretty obvious I had a town read and understood a lot of where she was coming from.
I suggest looking/reading the players and get back into your scum hunt world. I know this game is exhausting, but we have a few players that have not received a chain and it would be good to have the bottom 2 sorted. That way if a player passes to someone most agree is scum then that player is basically claiming scum.In post 2451, Pink Ball wrote:@farside I think I have a scumtell on Titus that I have no time to check if it's statistically significant; that's why I'm not pushing her, would be rude without doing some ground work first.
There is no reason to not keep the bottom 2 players in the bottom if the majority agrees.
Whose left without a chain: Pb, mid, dunn, tse, spring, titus.........let me know if I forgot someone. I didn't check this.Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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Hey playing 4 games and doing home school. I'm impressed I remembered as much as I did without looking.
I know it was a joke about NDMath, but I'm proud I remember as much as I do.Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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In post 2467, unwnd wrote:Would you be willing to be on a team with spring and yourself? Would you ever deny a quiz if you felt like someone on the team was scum, or would you take that chance and see if your read was wrong?In post 2470, unwnd wrote:See that's where I see the power in the quiz personally? Especially now. But people don't see it that way. They want me to pick townie players. OK. Who? I want to go into that ambiguous gray I was talking about because then it can be less gray based on results.In post 2477, beeboy wrote:In post 2474, unwnd wrote:
I'm stupid and spell a quiz team out for me with this in mind. I don't really want Dunn or Spring, I think I would like to see them down the chain more.In post 2468, beeboy wrote:
To summarize (I can find any relevant long posts)In post 2462, unwnd wrote:I just realized 2 and 3 sort of intertwine, given that 2 of the chained were on the last quiz and 2 of them were not. The only people who aren't chained right now are Dunn/Spring (from last quiz).
Would still like thoughts.
*long post on how easy it is to turn 1 successful group to a game with only successes by picking the same people over and over*
*long post on how a 1 shot tamper makes that fair for scum, 2 tampers is too strong*
*long post on how you being shot despite being BP could imply the above was used*
By using the same people we know scum can''t have 2 tampers so 2 fails = scum in the group.
Or scum is forced to hit pass for us and we win the power role, either outcome is $$$$$
Unwnd, Farside, Starbuck, Raya.
Assuming your town and we ignore Dunn and Spring this is the only group that fits my strat within your requirements.In post 2480, midwaybear wrote:Replace farside with pink ball
This is going to be a sloppy post.In post 2488, beeboy wrote:Keep in mind the scum pool is still {Farside, Spring, Dunn, Raya, Starbuck} if the quiz fails.
Since Dunn/Spring could manually deny the quiz night 1 then tamper night 2. Which makes them scum candidates still if we get chain fails.
1) i would approve any of the above. Wouldn't mind pb in exchange for me.
2) could we please put tse/spring as the bottom 2 for lynching. I think tse/mid scum but titus mentioning dunn did make me think about the animal mafia game that just ended. I strongly read dunn town by the end of day 2 in that game but admittedly my read on here on him is weak. Basically i wouldn't object to dunn at the bottom.
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I think so too.In post 2496, Titus wrote:
I think only town are chained.In post 2492, unwnd wrote:I think the people chainless right now is a bit telling of events in particular. Do people think there is more scum chained or less scum chained? Right now I'm sitting with the ideal that at least one scum is chained, which is why i agreed upon the quiz.Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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Not repeating myself. Go read my iso and the quiz pt.In post 2499, springlullaby wrote:@farside, why do you think I'm scum again?
Nothing has changed my views about you, especially as you still did the same thing today you did in the pt.Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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In post 2501, springlullaby wrote:Such as?
Same response. I'm not running the same argument over and over. If you can't read the iso, I can't help you.In post 2500, farside22 wrote:
Not repeating myself. Go read my iso and the quiz pt.In post 2499, springlullaby wrote:@farside, why do you think I'm scum again?
Nothing has changed my views about you, especially as you still did the same thing today you did in the pt.
I thought an RB just blocks a night action in the game, I didn't think about a vote.In post 2508, Raya36 wrote:
I'm scared that if we happen to have an all town team then scum could roleblock you and then Beeboy fails the quiz. I think it was Beeboy who mentioned this? The joat could be a roleblockerIn post 2465, unwnd wrote:The problem with running me+beeboy is that I cannot guarantee the other two people will simply pass, and then beeboy is never allowed to be on the quiz again. Beeboy is a slot scumwantsto keep around. This is my problem just going with me+Beeboy because then you have a giant hole and scum has more room to sneak in when it's going to count more. This is the time to be risky and be willing to make a mistake.Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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I did forget about that. Good catch.In post 2533, Raya36 wrote:
If we put Bee in the team then get Unwnd to make his vote a pass. Then Unwnd gets roleblocked. Beeboy failsIn post 2530, farside22 wrote:
I thought an RB just blocks a night action in the game, I didn't think about a vote.In post 2508, Raya36 wrote:
I'm scared that if we happen to have an all town team then scum could roleblock you and then Beeboy fails the quiz. I think it was Beeboy who mentioned this? The joat could be a roleblockerIn post 2465, unwnd wrote:The problem with running me+beeboy is that I cannot guarantee the other two people will simply pass, and then beeboy is never allowed to be on the quiz again. Beeboy is a slot scumwantsto keep around. This is my problem just going with me+Beeboy because then you have a giant hole and scum has more room to sneak in when it's going to count more. This is the time to be risky and be willing to make a mistake.
SB: Are you passing the chain soon? I'm concerned about deadline I know it's 7 days but we have to at least talk about bottom 2 and i don't see a lot of people discussing that.Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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In post 1539, Dunnstral wrote:
Farside looked towny IMO, changed my read thereIn post 1534, unwnd wrote:I appreciate the concern but as someone apart of the fail quiz you should start telling me who you think is the most likely.
People had a problem with Spring but I'm not convinced - I could use talking to on this from my pt mates
Starbuck was pushing Spring in a weird way IMO
Honestly, I think it's Raya if anyone. He's been playing it safe the whole time, there was a moment where I voted unwnd for the quiz and raya instantly hammered it in which caught me off guard. I think he may be playing a safe game here, emulating his last town game I was in - except I feel he had more analysis in that gameIn post 1586, Dunnstral wrote:
I didn't want to stir the pot if the quiz was going to pass. There was no reason for me to say anything about Raya in the pt (and if the quiz passed, I would believe him as town)In post 1582, farside22 wrote:Dunn didn't say much about any suspicion on raya in the pt.
When I initially voted unwnd chainleader, I was under the impression that Raya was going to be pushing for beeboy - instead he instantly hammered unwnd in a post that came out in the same minute - now, to be fair, he also had some analysis to go with that, so it's like... I asked if there was no p.edit in pts but apparently there is.
Now, I could be wrong - between You, Spring, and Starbuck, I think Starbuck was behaving oddly in the pt - it's like she was pushing spring in advance, knowing that the quiz would fail - though why scum would do that IDK.
As for you not knowing that the person we were voting was bp: I assumed you knew it after the mod clarification - so you never saw that? What about the posts where I was arguing to give it to unwnd so he could give a result in case there was scum in the quiz group, and playing for the bad case scenario rather than the good case scenario?
So your views haven't changed since saying this, given what has been said today you still feel this way?Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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Obviously.In post 2543, Dunnstral wrote:
Because I still don't think it's Spring/You, and I'm not convinced on mafia messing with the quiz. Raya has been playing it safe with his reads too, and he never looked into all his townreads on the quiz members, and Starbuck is poe, I don't feel as good about herIn post 2540, farside22 wrote:Follow up question: Why?
Do you think I'm wrong?
So you forget something or some else forgets the rules thats ok.In post 2557, springlullaby wrote:In post 2542, unwnd wrote:I can see both of your dispositions. The quiz failed last time so it's not exactly wise for you to approve of it. It's just due retribution. Why not let things play out if you are so against it? I just feel like if I nominated either of you even if there was Starbuck/Raya on it, you would still agree.
Not true for me. I'm ok-ish with Raya atm. But not with Starbuck, and not really with farside either.
> Starbuck: I already stated why.
> Farside: I don't really like how she's seemed so slow to understand the setup. Than so outright against figuring it out.
If we all agree and decide that we should PoE from the first QT, supposing that scum failed it, I'd be ok with that then I'd approve of the team.
But since it's not the case, I'm just denying whatever team I think has scum on it.
Only because i was slow about it is scummy... ok not buying it but sure you keeping pushing that shit.
I never was against figuring it out.
Im sensing fear amoung scum here.
If everyone recalls spring had the idea that if scum even allowed the quiz to go through it confirms a town member now she is worried about being framed for it.
I think no one ahould or would instanta town read the group suggested.
Saying that is a fallacy.
I do wonder why dunn denied the first team when his only concern is nd who is a null read.
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Your pushing things that are not scummy.In post 2568, springlullaby wrote:
Yet, you read me as scummy when I put in the work today.In post 2565, farside22 wrote:I never was against figuring it out.
Molehill you turn into a mountain. Its called seeing you do fake scum hunting.
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Yes. I do, but im tired of tse. Mine is personal reasons of being tired of one players attitude. Spring never voiced a concern till now.In post 2575, beeboy wrote:Farside didn't you have the same concern about being framed?
Sorry in advance when you point out the thing I am missing Z_ZSarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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This makes no sense.In post 2573, springlullaby wrote:
Ahem what?In post 2571, Raya36 wrote:
This is a good point to keep in mindIn post 2565, farside22 wrote: Im sensing fear amoung scum here.
If everyone recalls spring had the idea that if scum even allowed the quiz to go through it confirms a town member now she is worried about being framed for it.
I think no one ahould or would instanta town read the group suggested.
Saying that is a fallacy.
These two propositions are not contradictory?
They don't even connect logically?
If scum allow the quiz to go through, good that confirms one town member.
If scum fail the quiz, I refuse to be framed for that voting that team in.
> Do people see the problem I have with farside now?
I already stated that in this game.In post 2574, springlullaby wrote:
What molehill did I turn into a mountain?In post 2569, farside22 wrote:Molehill you turn into a mountain.Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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You were fine day 1 with the idea. Why is this an issue today?In post 2578, springlullaby wrote:Farside, you are the one not making sense.
How am I scummy for not wanting to vote scum into the QT?
How does that even connect with scum failing or passing the quiz?
The only thing you said was when I asked Starbuck on why she thought it'd be fun to have her as a leader.
I explained why I asked that already, to gauge who'd she think she'd surprise (whom I suppose are who she thinks are scum).
And again IF YOU READ THE GAME IT WAS FUCKING APPARENT!
You think she was lying given the situation day 1? Did you seriously miss abr attacking her? Or cakez saying she was scum or abr was at the end of the fucking day?
The question wasn't even to get anything alugnmrnt indicative and if you think it did explain how?Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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In post 567, springlullaby wrote:OK, stop. HAVE YOU READ THAT DENYING THE QUIZ TEAM IS AN AUTOMATIC ADVANTAGE FOR SCUM?In post 571, springlullaby wrote:
Ok, you are scum.In post 570, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
I dont give a single fuck about that! My scumhunting is so good i need a handicap!In post 567, springlullaby wrote:OK, stop. HAVE YOU READ THAT DENYING THE QUIZ TEAM IS AN AUTOMATIC ADVANTAGE FOR SCUM?In post 574, springlullaby wrote:
I think it's 3 denies. But just passing the team is the straight way to do it. I want no wiggle room for scum to automatically gain an advantage, instead of being forced to at least PoE if they want to fail the quiz.In post 569, beeboy wrote:
Can you ask if denying 3 times is an advantage for scum?In post 567, springlullaby wrote:OK, stop. HAVE YOU READ THAT DENYING THE QUIZ TEAM IS AN AUTOMATIC ADVANTAGE FOR SCUM?
Instead of just once.
Agree/Disagree?
This is all spring day 1 on her reasons and thought for the quiz.In post 504, springlullaby wrote:Alright, that's my question answered.
So as you know, I'm the chainleader, and I'm also responsible of nominating a quiz team.
Here what I know about the team:
1) The quiz team size for tonight is 5 players.
2) All players on the quiz team get to pass or fail the quiz, by PM to the mod.
3) If the quiz is passed, town gain a unspecified advantage.
4) If the quiz is failed, scum gain a unspecified advantage.
5) All quiz team member must pass the quiz, for the quiz to be passed.
6) If no quiz team can be formed, scum gain an unspecified advantage.
> Given the above, there is zero advantage in veto-ing the quiz team since:
a) scum automatically gain an advantage anyway
b) quiz team failing or passing the quiz serves as PoE.
A) Quiz team members have the additional task of selecting the next chain leader by vote.
B) The next chain leader can be selected outside of the quiz team.
> Given all of the above, I'd like to take care of forming the quiz team first.
NOMINATE QUIZ TEAM:
1. Springlullaby
2. farside
3. Starbuck
4. Raya
5. Dunnstral
> Also, I will personally vote to nominate beeboy as the next chain leader.
Please vote to approve the quiz team.
She is now against it.
If she thinks scum is on it wouldn't it benefit her read on sb or me or raya or anyone she suspects? So why is she against it.Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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Since your sharing thing. Can you walk me through any reason to town read TSE. All i see is yelling, making false accusations and running a player into the ground with that player being scum regardless what they say.In post 2583, Titus wrote:
Do you remember how you felt about Chemist in T v A?In post 2572, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:I really want someone to link me Farside’s Town game in case they are just normally Anti-Town and I’m just looking at them wrong.Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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In post 2589, springlullaby wrote:
Do you even read the thread? Or are you just trying to find angles to attack me?In post 2584, farside22 wrote:Spoiler:
This is all spring day 1 on her reasons and thought for the quiz.
She is now against it.
If she thinks scum is on it wouldn't it benefit her read on sb or me or raya or anyone she suspects? So why is she against it.
I explicitly said if there was consensus on PoE, i'd approve of the team straight away.
BUT since there seems there isn't, I'm not getting framed for voting in scum.In post 2594, springlullaby wrote:
...No, I'm defending myself from the QT failing, and people framing me for voting in scumIn post 2593, Titus wrote:
You'd only be "framed" if the team would actually pass the quiz, which you seem to know they would.In post 2589, springlullaby wrote:I explicitly said if there was consensus on PoE, i'd approve of the team straight away.
BUT since there seems there isn't, I'm not getting framed for voting in scum.
You also stated when this quiz gets voted down.
The simplest explanation is that you're scrambling for a defense, preemptively.
What the fuck.
Who said they were framing you for voting scum into the team?
All I said is that you stated day 1 it was a good way to scum hunt and that it give POE. I also just said that if you think sb, me or raya are scum and it fails that would make it seem like you were cleared.
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I'll look into it, but I haven't had the best luck looking at someone elses game and seeing clearly there play in the game I'm in.In post 2586, Titus wrote:
He did the same thing to Chemist in T v A.In post 2585, farside22 wrote:
Since your sharing thing. Can you walk me through any reason to town read TSE. All i see is yelling, making false accusations and running a player into the ground with that player being scum regardless what they say.In post 2583, Titus wrote:
Do you remember how you felt about Chemist in T v A?In post 2572, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:I really want someone to link me Farside’s Town game in case they are just normally Anti-Town and I’m just looking at them wrong.Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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Am I crazy to think that spring seems to be weird for thinking she looks scummy for suggesting a team that may have had scum on it?
No one even suggested that today.
EBWOF: Okay so SL is preemptively saying something not in facts and changing her views 180 degrees from day 1.
Good to know.Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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I've changed my mind on titus. I would rather see spring/dunn/TSE/mid any of those 4 as bottom 2. I swear sometimes I just think you really don't care about this game any more or just want to stick with your reads because......??? I don't know i just never meet a player that refused to see or think about what others are saying like you do.In post 2650, beeboy wrote:In general I still want Titus flipping today over Midaway, I don't think anyone has been a new opinion due to the Titus slot and the flip helps us out more then the midway flip does.
Although I guess either is fine idk.
I am with PB I want more flip based info in order to solve Dunn I think he'll be easy to solve with a few of those.Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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Jigsaw mafiaIn post 2657, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:If your still there Farside.
Can I please have a name of a game you played where you were Town in.
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Not going to say I'm all cozy with titus. I know titus can butter me up because she knows how I can get. But she is pushing someone I see as scum. She is defending TSE, (despite TSE being nothing more then ranting noise at this point to me) and I liked her thoughts on Dunn because I had felt a few things during the quiz pt coming from his post that felt off, but I get lost in my own tunnels and forget about players.In post 2658, beeboy wrote:
I think we are lacking new relevant information in the form of wagons and even flips because of how slow this game is going. I am not happy about the constant thunderdomes that keep happening this game. But with vote counts and wagon dynamics normally I am capable of making it work? A lack of clear support on pushes makes this game very hard for me to navigate and all these aggressive 1v1s aren't doing a good job persuading me outside town reading Starbuck which is a shit take away from this amount of pages. Mafia has never been a game of rhetoric so these various 1v1s has little bearing on player's alignment in my world.In post 2655, farside22 wrote:
I've changed my mind on titus. I would rather see spring/dunn/TSE/mid any of those 4 as bottom 2. I swear sometimes I just think you really don't care about this game any more or just want to stick with your reads because......??? I don't know i just never meet a player that refused to see or think about what others are saying like you do.In post 2650, beeboy wrote:In general I still want Titus flipping today over Midaway, I don't think anyone has been a new opinion due to the Titus slot and the flip helps us out more then the midway flip does.
Although I guess either is fine idk.
I am with PB I want more flip based info in order to solve Dunn I think he'll be easy to solve with a few of those.
I think Dunn's recent set of posts where he responded to me indirectly by saying "fuck me so if the group fails you guys lynch me anyway" felt like town frustration to me over anything else. Which is why I put him as my 4th best option which I guess was my most recent read adjustment.
You tin foiling me constantly is also starting to give me better vibes compared to where I was previously at?
Titus is supporting you but I don't think she is doing it in a way that is overly hard to fake? I could maybe see from your POV how her angles and thoughts come from a town POV. But it feels like standard going through motions to me which I'll admit town can do. Lot's of my recent posts are just me going through motions.
Issue with my new Dunnstral read and read on you is that I am now committing to the idea of the n1 quiz group being all town. Which is something I actually believe is highly likely to be possible but the state of the thread makes me not want to actually argue about mechanics to be blunt. Scum had to have seen the update because scum see thread updates when they check their scum topic or the quiz team topic. So I think "scum not noticing" isn't an argument that actually holds up unless scum deliberately gambited shooting unwnd which doesn't make much sense given the quiz failed. I literally just wanted to run the quiz team back because I wanted to validate to myself that it will pass this time and is all town or I prove myself wrong so I am forced to scum read someone in that group.
So I'd like to see a Spring lynch. For me it would either let me know if my reads are correct or if I'm running around looking in the wrong directs. Because telling me a players tone reads town is just something I can see easily faked.
Unless I missed a memo somewhere there is typically more then one scum in a game. Not sure why you wrapped this into only NDMath option.In post 2664, beeboy wrote:I wanted NDMath dead because if this was somehow negligence then the slot that is least active by a large margin gains massive scum equity.
So NDMath is just always scum. Either by quiz 1 being all scum or by being the one most likely to not submit a kill / see a thread update.Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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I say let PB decide.In post 2667, NDMath wrote:
You are so smart.In post 2638, midwaybear wrote:He’s passing it to Dunnstral
If not, he’s giving it to Pink Ball
Mark my words
That is a bs reason to scumread me.In post 2664, beeboy wrote:I wanted NDMath dead because if this was somehow negligence then the slot that is least active by a large margin gains massive scum equity.
So NDMath is just always scum. Either by quiz 1 being all scum or by being the one most likely to not submit a kill / see a thread update.
Which of Pinkball and Dunn are gonna be our chain decider so I can pass to the other?Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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In post 990, Dunnstral wrote:Actually he didn't deny it - he danced around the idea of denying it but never voted, and I think that looks worse
Dunn: why did you bring up springs non vote on the team day 1, but never follow up after?In post 1539, Dunnstral wrote:
Farside looked towny IMO, changed my read thereIn post 1534, unwnd wrote:I appreciate the concern but as someone apart of the fail quiz you should start telling me who you think is the most likely.
People had a problem with Spring but I'm not convinced - I could use talking to on this from my pt mates
Starbuck was pushing Spring in a weird way IMO
Honestly, I think it's Raya if anyone. He's been playing it safe the whole time, there was a moment where I voted unwnd for the quiz and raya instantly hammered it in which caught me off guard. I think he may be playing a safe game here, emulating his last town game I was in - except I feel he had more analysis in that game
Can you give more detail what you found scummy about sb.Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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Welcome to my world.In post 2717, Titus wrote:Excuse me while I pull my hair out. I'll be back this evening.
Brought to you by the letter S
Can you think of words that start with S?
Shitty, scummy son-of-a-bitches.
How I feel when I'm in this game
okay I feel slightly better sharing that.Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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In post 2720, springlullaby wrote:In post 2719, farside22 wrote:Welcome to my world.
Brought to you by the letter S
Can you think of words that start with S?
Shitty, scummy son-of-a-bitches.
Oh right, you mean Starbuck is scum.
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No she isn'tIn post 2757, beeboy wrote:The core issue with this entire situation is Spring is town.
No she is playing to survive as long as possible, not solving the game.In post 2762, beeboy wrote:
I mean my counter argument is you have the ABR slot.In post 2758, Titus wrote:
Based on what? His AtE that's wrong and offensive AF.In post 2757, beeboy wrote:The core issue with this entire situation is Spring is town.
They aren't playing to end game they are playing to be right which feels townie to me.
Her reactions to something in regards to tonight failing (1) hasn't happened (2) no one even suggest and (3) she believes it will fail too strongly and is playing the victim pre-morning.
Why would she think she would be alive day 2 if she was town?
Does she think BB will get the vest or that unwnd is dead? Why would she think that when she never thought unwnd was going to be a target in the first place?
Her reactions to anything that plays as a victim is not a town action when nothing occurred and she is just preemptively acting. She doesn't even think it could pass, why?
She believed day 1 the quiz would mean sorting things and finding scum? So now it's paranoia? One that she didn't vote and was willing to change?
No and if you can really look at ABR's post and say he reads as a day cop. I'd be really surprised.
Ditto.
So spring want players to lynch between titus and PB even though many have expressed a scum read in mid.
Yup that is not helping solve the game. It's only to help her.
If anyone passes to spring/dunn day 3 they are scum claiming at that point.Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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Nothing you say makes any sense. Including this. I explained multiple times with different reasons why I find you scummy.In post 2776, springlullaby wrote:
beeboy, I do play to win. And there are enough players in this game who know that.In post 2772, beeboy wrote:Spring don't let them kill Pinkball.
Why are you doing this to me I keep defending you PepeHands.
Farside in particular being dismissive the way she is of my contribution is highly suspect, because she is in a oldies game so thick in blabla, this one is nothing in comparison.
In post 2779, midwaybear wrote:In post 2775, farside22 wrote:many have expressed a scum read in mid.
iirc you never explained why you SR me. Also, ND admitted he scumread me because he didn't read my posts as townie which is questionable. Pink Ball never gave his reasons, and I refuted all of Raya's.
I had day 1, but since then it was more like you just changed your reads without explaining anything. I'll bring in quotes shortly.
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In post 1635, midwaybear wrote:Unfortunate that mafia got a JOAT...
I wanted to say that ABR is the scummiest player, but his anger feels genuine and I agree that we definitely did not use the mechanics in our favor yesterday.I agree with ND that we should decide the quiz teamafter not beforepassing the chain. ABR is still on my radar of suspicion though.
I also disagree with the Raya scumreads. I think a lot of people have been saying that she makes the "safe" reads which I don't exactly agree with. She was townreading Cakez before he became obv town, and I can't really see any necessarily "safe" reads.
I like this quote because some people(like Dunnstral and beeboy) were trying to suggest that scum were outside the quiz team. That's super unlikely, and suggesting that seems more scum motivated than town motivated.In post 1611, Raya36 wrote:
Is it really likely there's a PR that allows scum to fail a quiz without even having to be on it? That seems to overpowered to me because not only does it gain scum an advantage but it also causes a lot of town confusion and makes us believe someone on the quiz is scum.In post 1518, Dunnstral wrote:
Unless there was no scum in the neighborhood but it failed because ____? Power rolesIn post 1513, Albert B. Rampage wrote:when you vote someone for chain leader, they become BP. Scum know this. They did NOT try to kill unwnd.
I'm honestly gonna just go with scum is on the quiz
@Pink Ball. Yesterday, you said that I was scum upon a SirCakez scum flip.
Also, we don't really know that beeboy is town, so I do not really support him on the quiz team. unwnd is safely conf town though.
I think the quiz team should be me, unwnd, farside, RayaIn post 505, midwaybear wrote:why farside and starbuck?In post 754, midwaybear wrote:Thinking of passing the chain to Starbuck nglIn post 756, midwaybear wrote:
how is that a sheep? I already explained why I TR her before.In post 755, beeboy wrote:I would rather you just do you and fully justify it then sheep a readIn post 762, midwaybear wrote:farside, unwnd, tse, starbuck all give me doubts. And then I can't give it to PB or Cakez who I think are town(mostly Cakez). NDMath has posted way too little, and not that much substance. I can see myself giving it to Dunn or beeboy then. I like Dunnstral's posts because he seems critical of things others were saying, and veered away from sheeping, so VOTE: DunnstralIn post 775, midwaybear wrote:@farside I don't think I really townread TSE. You, starbuck, TSE, and unwnd give me doubts not in the sense of scumread, but I'm pretty sure there are two scum in the 4 of you and probably a scum outside of this subset who is getting TR.In post 1368, midwaybear wrote:how am I following an agenda? unwnd has been pretty helpful and anti-town. I prefer having her lynched over Cakez
the flight or fight is interesting
I was reading a MU Champs game, and scum went inactive as they were caught (season 7 game 6)In post 1435, midwaybear wrote:i guess unwnd can change beeboy's quiz once, but that doesn't seem that useful.
I prefer keeping cakez
TSE is probably scum nowIn post 1731, midwaybear wrote:
What do you mean by this? Was his reaction EOD not enough to convince you he’s town?In post 1706, Raya36 wrote:But I chose Unwnd since I think he's town and we would gain a lot more info from him than we would giving it to Beeboy who was the alternative option.
Anyways, Raya is making me reconsider, so the only person I’m comfortable “recycling” would be farside. Remaining 3 can be me, unwnd, ND.In post 1736, midwaybear wrote:I think PB is fine too because of the reaction test.
@Raya We’re not going with the same group because then we’re going to fail again. Sure there might be a tamperer, but it’s still too risky
@Dunn so what
If you guys really don’t want me, then it can be {unwnd, Farside, PB, ND}
Pedit: ...In post 2088, midwaybear wrote:yeah, let's decide the team after handing the chain. The current team doesn't really seem appealing, and unwnd's reasoning for it is iffy.
Deny teamIn post 2197, midwaybear wrote:Why is everybody just ignoring how SCUMMY ABR was?
What has Titus done to make you all reconsider?
pedit: how coincidental. most of what I remember from your posts here is you explaining why ABR is badIn post 2315, midwaybear wrote:actually she seems townie now...
I'm still semi-confident that scum is in this pool of six(five)
{Titus, raya, farside, dunn, ND}. I don't really think Pink Ball is likely to be scum anymore because of the reaction test. I disagree with farside that it felt fake. Also, his feelings about being pressured to solve seem legit.
I don't think people read this stuff but here is the quotes I pulled from Mid where he changes his reads and many, many times never explains his scum reads.
The first one was day 1. He said he was going to give SB the chain and then has a sudden unsure I changed my mind 10 minutes later. According to mid it was on reread, but he never says what changed his mind.
Another quote in the mix he talks about ABR and most of his comments ABR is a positive comment, I put that in bold above what he said.
Fast forward to today and he basically is agreeing with everyone about anyone that is scum. I haven't seen Mid really stick with a scum read or say why. At one point he had a town read on me that just vanished for no reason and seriously after his "suspicion" of me yesterday I don't see where he started to town read me at all.
I don't even know why he didn't like the team when he didn't state a scum read on any of the ones in the quiz from the first one (which at that time was NDMath, Unwnd, TSE and PB.)
Basically all I see from mid is following others and blending in without stating why or sticking with a scum read without following someone else.Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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Well i still dont see tse town. But don't look at me to lead. Personally i haven't requested replacement because of how many pages this game has gone. I really hate tse harassment that continues to get a free pass. Springs flailing around at any accusation. Beeboy ignoring it all no matter what is said.In post 2792, Titus wrote:@Farside, Pretty sure I'm dead here, barring a miracle. I'll trust you to carry on with my theory. If it fails, I trust you to at least look at ND/Starbuck.
Like I said, ABR was toxic and I lack an obvtown gene. Thanks for giving me a shot.
And tbf you know i hate when people try to appeal to me. I always feel like its an ulterior motive.
So yea im a bad one to ask to do anything more then what ive done.Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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In post 2793, springlullaby wrote:^Look at that wall and tell me it's not pure OMGUS + bullshit.
It's been a pattern of hers.
1) My biggest disagreement with her play is how obvious unwnd was town at the end of day 1. The claim really sucked at that point, and there like a flower, she was saying that it was absolutely clear unwnd was town.
2) Look at farside change of heart about ABR, she was all "ABR is scum" when there was zero chance of ABR being lynched, but today she transitioned into Titus must be town for no tangible reason whatsoever.
Anyway, @ TSE, have you read that I want Pink Ball and Titus as bottom 2? Do you have a comment?
By the way i explained my change of read, but that requires you to actually read the fucking game.Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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NoIn post 2807, Raya36 wrote:
Do you think it's AI that she keeps repeating that she's doomed?In post 2805, Pink Ball wrote:I agree with Titus that she's probably doomed, and I don't think that's bad. It's good actually. Really good.
Mid was.In post 2808, Dunnstral wrote:Wasn't somebody else doing the 'I'm doomed' routine in this game earlier?
And im noting a page from pb and no linger interacting with spring who clearly likes to not read the game.Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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In post 2274, farside22 wrote:Well whoever is part of the quiz, we do need to approve it.
I have no desire to be part of the quiz team. Im a bit paranoid at the idea of a scum player that can switch votes theory that was presented.
I feel better about titus play over abr.
Till i see spring lynched I won't feel much satisfaction, unless its tse.
Id say im null on ndmath, feeling null on titus. This is not outside her ability as scum to do but she at least reads like she is sorting people.
Plus something abr said in the game gives me a slight pause.In post 2356, farside22 wrote:
I love that idea.In post 2312, Titus wrote:Midway, you're self admitted survivalist and wish washy on reads. You say neither of those are enough to warrant a scumread on you. The question is, what would be a better standard? Who would then be scum? I don't see much solving but instead objecting to ours.
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*mutes TSE*
I don't know about shade but i like the town block.In post 2331, Titus wrote:
I wasn't being sarcastic. Raya/Farside/Starbuck reads like an all town block scum are desperate to shade.In post 2330, unwnd wrote:I think she was being sarcastic, which begs the question what her problem with my post was
If your town with your role, why dont you think scum could have the same role?In post 2338, unwnd wrote:
That is honestly a very disappointing take from your end, I just don't think why you think this situation is normal in light of us just coming back from a failed quiz. Like, maybe you missed hte memo? There is one scum between Raya/Farside/Starbuck/Spring/Dunn who were all on the quiz. I've read into Beeboy's theory about scum being able to fuck with results but that goes against my own role and I think it'd be boring setup design to have a pure counter to each role present.In post 2331, Titus wrote:
I wasn't being sarcastic. Raya/Farside/Starbuck reads like an all town block scum are desperate to shade.In post 2330, unwnd wrote:I think she was being sarcastic, which begs the question what her problem with my post was
We could go with lynching spring.In post 2344, Titus wrote:
You just speculated that two scum could be in R/F/Starbuck. Now, you seem certain there's only one.In post 2338, unwnd wrote:There is one scum between Raya/Farside/Starbuck/Spring/Dunn who were all on the quiz
There's nothing preventing scum from being in Spring/Dunn.
I'd go 1v1 with that.
God that would be the best thing ever.In post 2354, Pink Ball wrote:Dude can we just lynch TSE? I don't give a flying fuck
Just quoting thing i said about titus that show SB isn't reading/takes one quote and ignores everything else stated.In post 2666, farside22 wrote:
Jigsaw mafiaIn post 2657, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:If your still there Farside.
Can I please have a name of a game you played where you were Town in.
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Not going to say I'm all cozy with titus. I know titus can butter me up because she knows how I can get. But she is pushing someone I see as scum. She is defending TSE, (despite TSE being nothing more then ranting noise at this point to me) and I liked her thoughts on Dunn because I had felt a few things during the quiz pt coming from his post that felt off, but I get lost in my own tunnels and forget about players.In post 2658, beeboy wrote:
I think we are lacking new relevant information in the form of wagons and even flips because of how slow this game is going. I am not happy about the constant thunderdomes that keep happening this game. But with vote counts and wagon dynamics normally I am capable of making it work? A lack of clear support on pushes makes this game very hard for me to navigate and all these aggressive 1v1s aren't doing a good job persuading me outside town reading Starbuck which is a shit take away from this amount of pages. Mafia has never been a game of rhetoric so these various 1v1s has little bearing on player's alignment in my world.In post 2655, farside22 wrote:
I've changed my mind on titus. I would rather see spring/dunn/TSE/mid any of those 4 as bottom 2. I swear sometimes I just think you really don't care about this game any more or just want to stick with your reads because......??? I don't know i just never meet a player that refused to see or think about what others are saying like you do.In post 2650, beeboy wrote:In general I still want Titus flipping today over Midaway, I don't think anyone has been a new opinion due to the Titus slot and the flip helps us out more then the midway flip does.
Although I guess either is fine idk.
I am with PB I want more flip based info in order to solve Dunn I think he'll be easy to solve with a few of those.
I think Dunn's recent set of posts where he responded to me indirectly by saying "fuck me so if the group fails you guys lynch me anyway" felt like town frustration to me over anything else. Which is why I put him as my 4th best option which I guess was my most recent read adjustment.
You tin foiling me constantly is also starting to give me better vibes compared to where I was previously at?
Titus is supporting you but I don't think she is doing it in a way that is overly hard to fake? I could maybe see from your POV how her angles and thoughts come from a town POV. But it feels like standard going through motions to me which I'll admit town can do. Lot's of my recent posts are just me going through motions.
Issue with my new Dunnstral read and read on you is that I am now committing to the idea of the n1 quiz group being all town. Which is something I actually believe is highly likely to be possible but the state of the thread makes me not want to actually argue about mechanics to be blunt. Scum had to have seen the update because scum see thread updates when they check their scum topic or the quiz team topic. So I think "scum not noticing" isn't an argument that actually holds up unless scum deliberately gambited shooting unwnd which doesn't make much sense given the quiz failed. I literally just wanted to run the quiz team back because I wanted to validate to myself that it will pass this time and is all town or I prove myself wrong so I am forced to scum read someone in that group.
So I'd like to see a Spring lynch. For me it would either let me know if my reads are correct or if I'm running around looking in the wrong directs. Because telling me a players tone reads town is just something I can see easily faked.
Unless I missed a memo somewhere there is typically more then one scum in a game. Not sure why you wrapped this into only NDMath option.In post 2664, beeboy wrote:I wanted NDMath dead because if this was somehow negligence then the slot that is least active by a large margin gains massive scum equity.
So NDMath is just always scum. Either by quiz 1 being all scum or by being the one most likely to not submit a kill / see a thread update.Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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You put scummy people in the middle or beginning it's the same results.In post 2833, Raya36 wrote:Tomorrow we need to be more organized with the chain. The problem is we leave all the scummiest players to the end and they make scummy decisionsSarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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Just let the day end with TSE making his choice. We have the quiz PT and we can discuss further a few thoughts.In post 2836, Raya36 wrote:
Yeah I guess you're right ://In post 2834, farside22 wrote:
You put scummy people in the middle or beginning it's the same results.In post 2833, Raya36 wrote:Tomorrow we need to be more organized with the chain. The problem is we leave all the scummiest players to the end and they make scummy decisionsSarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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In post 2859, Starbuck wrote:Stop putting words in my mouth. I would just like you to be a good sportsman all around to everybody whether you think somebody is scum or not. At the end of the day, we're playing a game and you're just going out of your way to make the whole game miserable and I just don't understand why.In post 2872, Pink Ball wrote:spring, is so obvious that you're picking a fight with me 'cause you felt bad when you read the mafia PT from XP Mafia and saw that I was trying to pocket you 'cause I thought you were a good target since my analysis of your playstyle is that you could tend to tunnel and if scum could control those tunnels you would be a good target to pocket.
You didn't like that, you don't see that flaw in your game and now you dislike me. That's fine I guess!
But don't try to depict me like someone I'm not. You clearly don't know me or even have a grasp of how I'm like.In post 2874, Pink Ball wrote:Like, if you just thought I'm scum, yeah sure. But you keep pushing a rethoric that I'm someone I'm not, and I'm not even talking about the game.
I wouldn't mind if you just wanted me dead because you think I'm scum, but you clearly have outside influence in your play. That, or I'm right and you're just scum. Hopefully it's the latter.
Good night spring, hope to not encounter you in the future, that's the most reasonable take I can give you.
Just going to say to both of you. She is scum. She is trolling as scum and she knows she's dead tomorrow. So this is her way to be the asshole till that happens.
Your better off ignoring her.
PB: I'm totally and completely understanding of your feelings, but regardless of how you feel and for the sake of the game titus should be lynched. I don't understand why BB is ignoring Spring's attitude or would think of that as town. But i swear to all that I can I will plan for a better day 3.Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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In post 2903, springlullaby wrote:Lol at farside: autovote=autolynch. You and I both know this.Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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I endorse this product and or service.In post 2934, Pink Ball wrote:I propose Dunn, midway and spring as the targets for tonight
We discussed who should be part of the quiz for n3 and who we scum read. Im waiting for the mod to anwser a question i sent.Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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I want to pass the chain with no crazy shit happening. So if I pass to someone I don't want it to go rogue like it has in the past.
Still waiting on the mod about the questions for how many are to be part of the quiz. Many in the PT agreed that PB should be put in the quiz. Raya also trusted unwnd. If anyone has suggestion on who they want to see do the quiz please let me know.Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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Hey for once we agree on something.In post 2957, midwaybear wrote:
I have been scumreading him for a majority of D2 because I don't really see any effort to scumhunt or really engage with the thread.In post 2955, Pink Ball wrote: Why do you want Dunn lynched now?
Also, farside do not pass the chain until we have all agreed to some form of plan that outlines who is passing to who and who is getting lynched. I really would like to end the day with a scum lynch, and discussing the exact order seems like a better idea than what we did D1, D2.
Which 3 people would you like to see as voted to be shot tonight?Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.-
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Just doing this instead of using a tag.In post 2961, Starbuck wrote:I must have been gone too long, what's the hurt tag?
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Meh, I'd rather force scum to kill someone that most scum read. Dont give them an out, besides they were either wanting you or unwnd dead day 1 anyways.In post 2969, beeboy wrote:HURT: unwnd, Beeboy, NDMath
Give unwnd a bullet proof vest.
Scum has to kill Math or my negative utility.
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My scum read is spring/ dunn and either mid or tse.In post 2971, Pink Ball wrote:I'm starting to think that I'm wrong in one of Dunn and spring, and that beeboy is the third scum with midway and one of Dunn and springSarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.