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No? Why do people keep saying thatIn post 10, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:Is this a hectic alt?not yet sentient-
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I'm listening to Good News right now!In post 20, Ame wrote:Hoc, I'm glad you enjoyed it! She has a couple of other really good ones too.
I feel like this game is going to be a wine tasting contest!
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> We shouldn't lynch group 1. Too risky.
> That'sexactlywhy scum would just put all 3 in group 1; we should lynch it.
> What if they knew we would think that and we just lose by lynching it??
> It's fine. If there's 2 or 3 scum in there, it's a positive result.
> It's not even that good if there's 2 scum in here. We enter MyLo the next day.
> They're counting on our paranoi, see? We should definitely lynch it.
> What if it's a 1/1/1 split though? We insta-lose then!
> A 1/1/1 split makes no sense for EV purposes, it's either 0, 2, or 3 in group 1. Therefore, we lynch it.
> But the fact you think that is exactly why they do a 1/1/1 split and then we lose by lynching group 1.
> They anticipated you would be afraid and used the airpeed velocity of an unladen swallow...
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Mohab entered saying we shouldn't talk about partitions because what's the point, but then discusses them anyway and emphasises how there can definitely be 3 scum in group 1.
He says it's too "risky" to lynch in group 1 and talks about how we shouldn't do it just because, unless we find "at least 1 scum in there worth lynching" - which is a very easy thing to do in 8 players. He's setting himself up later to vote group 1 while being reasonable and fair about it early.
Also, the self-vote is weird.not yet sentient-
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I'm not saying you are. I'm just wondering if you are in other games. There's incentive for scum to dump 3 lynchbaits into the same group.In post 92, enomis wrote:
This is addressed to me? How am I being lynchbait this game?In post 88, Hoctac wrote:@enomis and @mohab: Do you have the tendency to be lynchbait in other games? Be honest.not yet sentient-
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He ended up saying to not lynch group 1 unless we found 1 scum in there. Finding a town or two who look like scum in 8 players is very easy. Mafia wouldn't work if that wasn't the case every game. So, my fear is that he knows this and is eventually setting himself up to vote group 1 in the future.In post 99, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:I see. I liked how he was thinking about how to play the setup, which seemed natural. and he did end up saying to not lynch group 1 today
Secondly, it doesn't consider the possibility of there being 1 scum in group 1 who acts like a "jester" of sorts.not yet sentient-
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Yep, that's what I thought you were getting at lolIn post 122, Ame wrote:
Group 1. One of these things is not like the others.In post 118, Hoctac wrote:I know it's about the groups. I can only think of 1 thing.not yet sentient-
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In post 124, Ame wrote:Hoc, who all have you played with here?
I'm played with a couple of people here, but the games are ongoing, so I shouldn't mention them.In post 125, Ame wrote:Or who haven't' you played with rathernot yet sentient-
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Hmm, not so sure about that comparison.In post 165, Kanna wrote:Albert already reminds me of a certain fizzy drink orznot yet sentient-
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What worries you about this, Morning?In post 144, Morning Tweet wrote:Hoctac (91) - Suggesting we lynch group one if there's enough scummy players in there, although he presently thinks there's scummy players in group three. You're worrying me hoctoc
Ifthere are enough people acting scummy in group 1, we should lynch group 1. Right now though, I find people in group 3 are acting scumy.
Could you expand on what you find scummy about that statement?not yet sentient-
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Not a fan tbh.In post 196, clidd wrote:Hoctac, what do you think about Ame's push on group 2 ?
Ame, why is clidd scummy?not yet sentient-
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What if Enomis is scum pretending to act demoralised? His emotion doesn't have to be real.In post 210, Morning Tweet wrote:Enomis is either a demoralized player who feels like he has no options today but wants to keep playing so he's blindly voting group #2, or he's acting out that character. I feel like this is a bad course of action for scum to take. I'd expect scum to find ways to scumread clidd and ABR, not claim "I don't want to die" and more or less give upnot yet sentient-
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you mean this? can you explain it and why you found it townie?In post 168, Hoctac wrote:Ame is probably town for her conspiracy theory. Knowing she was Paragon is interesting though, she felt completely different in that game.thinkI get what she's referring to, but I'm not 100% sure. I'm not going to explain it in case I'm wrong.not yet sentient-
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He's pretty obvtown. Mixture of things. As scum, he's more reserved, doesn't take hard stances, I'd expect him to talk more setup and less reads/potential slips. Also, being paranoid of his own group is reminiscent of you know what.
What did you see?not yet sentient-
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Oh... I'm not going to say. You go first.In post 254, Ame wrote:
Hoc, I'm referring to thisIn post 242, Hoctac wrote:I think I get what she's referring to, but I'm not 100% sure. I'm not going to explain it in case I'm wrong.not yet sentient-
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Doro!In post 86, dsjstr wrote:I was also thinking of voting for group 3 tbh
Group 1 is too risky and if there is 1 member in group 2 then even without reads it would be a 50/50 we get them the next day.
You mentioned you would rather vote for group 2 over 3 since 2 will only have 1 member at max. But from your perspective, you know you're town, so should group 2 and 3 both have an equal number of potential scum (2)?not yet sentient-
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No games with him; I'm quite new here. But I spent a lot of time metaing him pregame and I'm confident in my read, but there's just one hiccup involving the question I asked him. I need to understand why he immediately went for group 3 over 2.In post 267, Kanna wrote:@Hoctac; how much experience do you have with Dsj and how confident are you of your read on him?not yet sentient-
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Why though? You know you're town, so both group 2 and 3 have 2 people that could be scum. Using that logic, group 2 is better to lynch since you know you're killing yourself (town) in group 3.In post 283, dsjstr wrote:
That came at a time while 1-1-1 was being discussed and at the time I was thinking if that was case then group 3 would be the safest bet.In post 258, Hoctac wrote:
Doro!In post 86, dsjstr wrote:I was also thinking of voting for group 3 tbh
Group 1 is too risky and if there is 1 member in group 2 then even without reads it would be a 50/50 we get them the next day.
You mentioned you would rather vote for group 2 over 3 since 2 will only have 1 member at max. But from your perspective, you know you're town, so should group 2 and 3 both have an equal number of potential scum (2)?not yet sentient-
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That's beautiful. Change "his tea" to "coffee" and it'd be perfect (clidd's a huge fan).In post 284, Morning Tweet wrote:
clidd, the detectiveIn post 266, Hoctac wrote:a haiku about clidd
he takes a sip of his tea
it’s quite delicious
im not sure if the last line is cheating or not
VOTE: Group 2
You have earned my vote.not yet sentient-
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viewtopic.php?t=81962In post 296, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:Do you have any completed scumgames dsjstr?
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Hang on a minute, I just realised why there's probably 2 or 3 scum in group 1. Everyone (as far as I'm aware) in group 1 are good at looking like town and don't get lynched very often.
In group 3, Mohab has said he gets scumread a lot. Doro is usually scumread (even though he's obvtown), and enomis I have a feeling is made of the same cut, given how he's entered strangely with this whole demotivated thing. Should metacheck him.
clidd doesn't really get lynched however. And Albert is a wildcard I guess, but definitely wouldn't call him lynchbait. BUT, they are exactly the sort of players that would have the confidence to put themselves in a smaller group and pull that off as scum. In fact, I think scum have done their homework and have put them both in group 2 so that we fall into the trap of thinking that.
Conclusion: Either, there's 2 scum in G1 with 1 being in G2. Or they're all in G1.not yet sentient-
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Pregame, I did research on everyone but Daenerys and Dragons, enomis, and Mohab.In post 324, Ame wrote:Hoc, who haven't you played with or "read up on?" on your main account. Ongoing games are irrelevant to this question.
This is my main account. Would be a little silly to have an alt not even a month into the site!not yet sentient-
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Let's nuke ourselves together...In post 303, Morning Tweet wrote:YES HOCTAC ILY!! (*≧∀≦*)
I am in total agreement with that assessment
I'm going to gather my reads on everyone in Group 1 first actually.
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Puff, why do you think scum would include you with them in group 1 if you think they've researched you and seen you as a null/scumlean most of the time, rather than put you in group 2/3, so that those could get lynched more easily today?In post 350, Adorable wrote:I'm always a null read or I would be a scum lean since I'm not an active member. I get the feeling scum looked up my completed games and they put me on Group 1 and plan on lynching Group 2 or Group 3 on day 1 and on day 2 they would put me in a group that would get lynched. I also think whoever are scum in this game are trying way too hard to look towny and it is Group 1 who is getting town read alot.
This post looks like shade throwing and you didn't elaborate on why you didn't like my entrance and this is the kind of post I normally scum read when I don't see a player elaborate.In post 142, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:I don't like Adorable's entrance either
I think 2 scum are in Group 1 and that's why I'm voting there.not yet sentient-
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So why not put you in Group 2 if they really don't want Group 1 lynched?In post 357, Adorable wrote:The players in Group 3 are scummy and I was also going to vote there yesterday and then I started to think scum must have looked up the players completed games which makes me think the players on Group 3 get scum read more often than me.not yet sentient-
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