Mini 2127 - Fairly Special [Game Over]

[Titus]

How is this on page 3 already?

VOTE: Cronos

I hate titans.

VOTE: BP

Hates the rate of the game, but doesn't vote the higher posters.

[Titus]

Titus! Long time no play! Looking forward to playing with you!

Me too.

How is this on page 3 already?

VOTE: Cronos

I hate titans.

VOTE: BP

Hates the rate of the game, but doesn't vote the higher posters.

And 3 pages isn't even bad for a mini. ~50 posts in about 10 hours.

Join me?

[Titus]

Did I miss rvs and we're all on serious votes now? Two votes on page 2 looked like they were serious votes and some of the votes on page 3 looked like they were rvs.

You did. We're srs business.

[Titus]

I have a random theory already, and I'm pretty sure Chronos is town. I just need to filter down to see which one is agency captured because I have four suspects.

[Titus]

"agency captured"
"page 4"

ok titus

-Q

Well, sounds like someone's scared. It's a fifty/fifty on the last two. My money's on EP and BP being teamed.

[Titus]

How is this on page 3 already?

VOTE: Cronos

I hate titans.

VOTE: BP

Hates the rate of the game, but doesn't vote the higher posters.

And 3 pages isn't even bad for a mini. ~50 posts in about 10 hours.

Join me?

VOTE: BP

B

Joining you when asked in rvs = s/s huh?

-Q

It wasn't RVS. BP was scummy in that he hated volume but he didn't vote anyone making the problem. EP agreed.

Immediately thereafter, he picks a fight with Chronos so he has an excuse to move his vote.

That makes me suspect partners.

[Titus]

Mastina, can you join me on BP? I think you're wrong on Adorable but right on EP and BP.

I also wouldn't locktown the hydra yet, but let's work together.

[Titus]

[...]
It wasn't RVS. BP was scummy in that he hated volume but he didn't vote anyone making the problem. EP agreed.

Immediately thereafter, he picks a fight with Chronos so he has an excuse to move his vote.

That makes me suspect partners.

Do you disagree with my reasons for voting Chronos?

Yes, and I don't see how they're in good faith.

[Titus]

Eh, I'm probably one of the few who didn't inherently dislike Yume.

I didn't dislike her at first. The repeated flaking and the sense of entitlement got to me though. I spent so much time trying to help but the slightest reality check and she'd wig out. She flat out expects rules not to apply to her.

[Titus]

Mastina, can you join me on BP? I think you're wrong on Adorable but right on EP and BP.

Sorry, Titus, but I'm not budging from Adorable.
Have you played with Adorable?

I have, and never before in my career have I so strongly felt that the contrast between the Adorable I'm seeing now and the Adorable I saw before is due to a different alignment. Adorable this game is oozing obvscum, not to mention, radiating an entirely different aura than when I played with her before, where she was obvtown pretty much immediately.

If this is wrong or I die, you'll sheep me on EP/BP? I feel the same way about them on those two and they are in the bottom of your reads list. I don't have a strong feeling on Adorable but I'd rather not fight.

I feel even stronger based on EP's why me fry me fight/response to Chronos and trying to say there's not enough to support my partners read. The hydra getting all omgusy defensive of those two really doesn't sit well with me either.

I could go to the hydra but I'd rather work with you than against you.

[Titus]

I'm really not following your process here. Granted, I skimmed my partner's posts, but what partner do you have?

My partners read = My read on EP and BP being partners.

[Titus]

Titus, how serious were you in your first two posts this game?

Very. RVS ended early for me.

[Titus]

I'm really not following your process here. Granted, I skimmed my partner's posts, but what partner do you have?

My partners read = My read on EP and BP being partners.

I see...

BP hasn't done anything but make a singular joke post, and I assumed until now your reaction to him was also a joke, am I wrong in that?

-Raven

Most people don't complain about game speed as a joke.

[Titus]

@Titus, I also don't understand how you scum read EP but not Yume.

-Raven

Yume didn't vote BP then not stick around and act like he never existed. I'm assuming Yume is Adorable here.

[Titus]

VOTE: Adorable

Soon you'll come to the grey side. We have half cookies.

[Titus]

@Titus, I also don't understand how you scum read EP but not Yume.

-Raven

Yume didn't vote BP then not stick around and act like he never existed. I'm assuming Yume is Adorable here.

No, I'm yume apparently. Adorable is adorable.

Oh you're not Yume. It's gotta be the avatar.

[Titus]

VOTE: STRQ

Ok, I just can't sit on Adorable any longer when I can't fit him on my scumteam.

[Titus]

Sorry everyone. Personal emergency corona-related. Will try to update on the game within the next 12-16 hours.

Personal sympathies.

[Titus]

Can someone town tell pls so I can get into the game properly

-Summer

*insert town tell here*

Haha.

[Titus]

Perfect!!!!!

Titus is now my shepherd

-Summer

You can still vote BP or EP and follow me.

[Titus]

Adorable does look a bit frailing, and her defence has a bit of WIFOM in there, but there is quite a bit of scummy people on her wagon at this point.

Do tell.

VC 1.5

Team STRQ (4) - Rabid Schnauzer, Chronos, Adorable, Titus
Adorable (3) - mastina, Team STRQ, eyestott

_{(titus switched off just prior to this vc)}

...Because to me the wagon looking suspicious would be the one on Team STRQ.

I townread everyone on the hydra's wagon. The hydra's posts at best are an incomprehensible mess.

[Titus]

EP, why do you just float on various forms of OMGUS? First Chronos now Egix.

[Titus]

Hydra, can you quote and spoiler what specific things you wanted answered?

[Titus]

All of them? They're fun.

[Titus]

Why did you vote STRQ here when you had been saying EP/BP was scum this entire time and had been trying to get Mastina to vote BP/EP?

Because my scumcore is EP and BP. My other guesses were your slot and mastina. I'm much weaker there. If I can't get my core, I'd rather use my vote to scumhunt the edges.

[Titus]

Gets prodded, moves vote to town

Consider my RS read weakened significantly.

[Titus]

Gets prodded, moves vote to town

Consider my RS read weakened significantly.

I hadn't done a damn thing, and still haven't. Doubtful you had a read on me, and more doubtful that that vote (which was basically a prodge, but adding to a wagon because wagons are good) changed anything in your mind. That post was fake analysis.

Everyone starts at null, gtmh town. Adding to an eyestott wagon doesn't change you jumped from the top wagon to something else. I'm a big fan of wagons as anyone, but your explanation here makes zero sense.

[Titus]

Why did you vote STRQ here when you had been saying EP/BP was scum this entire time and had been trying to get Mastina to vote BP/EP?

Because my scumcore is EP and BP. My other guesses were your slot and mastina. I'm much weaker there. If I can't get my core, I'd rather use my vote to scumhunt the edges.

Even though you said you wanted to work with Mastina?

Yes. Working with mastina, at least for a little while, helps me clarify my read on her and see how willing she actually is to push BP+EP and whether her Adorable tunnel is noise. If the Adorable tunnel is noise, then there's t v t noise or t v S noise. (I doubt it's S v S.)

[Titus]

If you think I'm scum, then I would be trying to conceal that I am scum.

True, but you would not not do something (read: you would do something) you thought concealed you as scum. It is possible that another explanation for the random comment about STRQ and policy is that you fully believed it to be your town meta to do such a thing. This is further supported by the fact that you admit you thought you policy voted a hydra in another game.

Ahh, I see. I could have sworn I've done a hydra policy vote, but I can't find one in any of my other games either.

It is possible that you were aware of that meta and thought detracting from that meta needed an explanation. You just happened to be wrong about your own meta.

I think we're in deep enough here that whatever I say will be WIFOM one way or another.

I trust that whatever your read of me becomes later in the game, the hydra voting thing will be one of many reasons for said read.

Are you asking about Titus because you also scumread her? Why not ask about the townreads, too?

I have a This Game answer and a Not This Game answer to this question.
This Game Answer: I think it is interesting that you both scumread one another.

Fair point. What do you think of Titus' reasoning?

And further, do you think my read of her questioning on me is accurate?

Not This Game Answer: I think it is easier to find scum by looking at their scumhunting, not their townhunting.
Addendum to the Not This Game: Scum are going to be necessarily correct when they call townies town. Probing a scum's mind for correctly townreading a townie seems like an exercise fit for a Lovecraft punishment. [...]

Re: the addendum -- I sometimes find it helpful to sort people based on their reasons for townreading (eg. Volpe's reason for townreading me in TM20). Your scumreads won't always be correct, so sometimes you can find town based on their town reads.

That being said, I know from MM2 that your specialty is looking for scum first. It makes sense that you'd therefore focus on your suspect's reasons for their scumreads.

This S/T v S professor non-sense needs to stop.

[Titus]

I've procastinated today and didn't re:read the game but...yeah I think I'm just going to keep going from here, I'm getting a good grasp here already. Maybe.

I'll try to check out Adorable case/meta another day, out of respect for mastina I'm putting him a bracket below what I would normally have him as

[Chronos]
[Suji, Mastina, Adorable]
[Gobble]
[everyone else]
[Titus, Eyesott]

How do you have Suji as town? How do you have EP as an unsorted afterthought?

[Titus]

VC 1.9

gobbledygook (3) - Adorable, Titus, Rabid Schnauzer
Adorable (3) - mastina, eyestott, gobbledygook
eyestott (2) - alimdia, Churros
Egix96 (2) - Chronos, EspressoPatronum
Chronos (1) - BP
EspressoPatronum (1) - Egix96

Not voting: Sujimichi

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2020-04-03 22:45:00) or when a lynch is reached.

mastina is V/LA until March 31, 2020

alimida is V/LA until March 31, 2020

Hmph. I'll need to come back to this VC later. High scum involvement suggests we wagoned a scum at some point today.

[Titus]

Titus... are you reading my posts?

Yes. I just don't care to do a read wall for lock scum.

[Titus]

I've procastinated today and didn't re:read the game but...yeah I think I'm just going to keep going from here, I'm getting a good grasp here already. Maybe.

I'll try to check out Adorable case/meta another day, out of respect for mastina I'm putting him a bracket below what I would normally have him as

[Chronos]
[Suji, Mastina, Adorable]
[Gobble]
[everyone else]
[Titus, Eyesott]

How do you have Suji as town? How do you have EP as an unsorted afterthought?

VOTE: Titus

I had already explained in the above post my position in Suji, and I have also talked about how I haven't really read much of the game, skimmed a lot. It's somewhat apparent I wouldn't have a grasp in EP's situation, and Chronos x EP in this past posts have been so much theory oriented I have began to skim it as well.

I don't like you asking me about EP when I've stated multiple times to not have a hold on every slot yet but it's ok, something still relatively normal/natural to post/question.

Now, asking me about Suji when I explained in the post above seems like you trying to look busy. Skimming my posts would be fine as well but why question my read list when you've not even read my post explaining it?

Your posts on Suji were hedges at best. If I feel it was clear, I wouldn't have asked you to justify your read there.

I care about EP because 1) he's blatantly lockscum and 2) almost every slot and their interactions depend on the strength of their EP read. I find it hard to believe anyone could put together a read state without reading EP.

[Titus]

That's literally impossible to not have a read on EP though. It's so baffling. To not even take a position on EP is so baffling that it's either scum faking it or town so not reading the game as to not be taken seriously at all. The nonsensical and incomprehensible waffling on Suji despite him being a townread doesn't help either.

You aren't misconveying anything as much as you legitimately say nothing and are proud of it because it's not a "gamestate" read.

[Titus]

Mod:Can we get a BP prod?

[Titus]

If someone would post a succinct explanation of anything major that happened in the game before it would be very helpful by the way.

This post right here is an excellent example. How can your reads have merit when you don't even know the context to put them in?

For instance the BP vote (his only non-emergency vote) is highly sketch. EP agreed but promptly vacated the pressure. The amount of people who said BP was joking in the face of such a patently serious but inconsistent post (complains about game speed but voted no major posters) is something that should be picked up on.

Mastina versus Adorable is a thing that covers the game as well.

If you can't understand and identify major events, just what are your reads made from?

[Titus]

I said over here everyone approaches games differently and you can't expect a town player to play the same in another game they play as town. I'm getting really sick and tired of this meta discussion to the point when there is no case on me. Maybe I should just claim and this should be a lesson learnt to never focus on meta.

Do not claim. Focus on working with your TRs instead.

Fancy an EP wagon?

[Titus]

Can someone explain to me why Alimdia is being so universally town read?

I think Egix / Rabid / alimdia are good wagons and think an Adorable wagon here is giving us little to no information.

Best case scenario, Adorable flips scum and mastina is cleared, which we don't really need because she'd likely be a night target anyway. TEAM STRQ again, gobbles stepped it up a bit and want to call it a lean town. That's about it.

If she's town, we just let scum hide onto her wagon without providing much reasoning and on Day 2 it's like we start Day 1 all over again.

Alimeda is not a lock townread but more of a PoE TR at this point.

[Titus]

An Adorable wagon gives a lot of information on everyone but mastina. I just happen to think it's wrong but Adorable's response here is telling.

Also, Chronos, your scumreads are the players who largely haven't called you obvtown bc you're universally townread. I'd be shocked if any were scum.

[Titus]

I find it very strange that Titus would not want to work with me after TvA and even after I caught up and others raised their opinions about me she still left her vote on me.

Her asking to start a wagon on EP seems like she’s trying to test the waters for an EP vote hop.

VOTE: Titus

EP is my biggest SR. I am not lock scumming you, so this is working with you. I'm not interrupting you. Instead, you OMGUS me when I tell you to get out of being Professor Gobble.

Professor Gobble never showed up in TvA. While others like your posts, I find there's a real possibility of S v S with EP.

[Titus]

Titus, how is your vote still on me?

Better yet.... why is her vote not on me?? She's been trying to stir up a wagon on me all day.

Because that would be a tunnel. I have all the evidence I need for EP scum (no one TRs you, but no one will vote you). I have the rest of the game to solve and the rest of the town won't work with me, there's only so much I can do. I'll take out the scummiest slots protecting you instead.

In this case, that's Gobble in a landslide.

I have no interest in readwalling for you because there's two lockscum reads (EP and BP) , one probably scum read (Gobble), one backup read (RS) and the rest are town by PoE. Could I be wrong? Sure.

[Titus]

Why would I omgus you for calling me Professor Gobbles? I find that title to be a compliment.

Oh bullshit. It's clear by the context I wasn't using Professor Gobbles as a compliment. You have been filling up the thread with useless theory while interacting with EP rather than anything that sorts him.

[Titus]

EP, I want to be clear when you do kill me who flips next after your red flip. Engaging in a read wall does nothing of the sort and gives you room to hide.

[Titus]

Suji, can you help me get things going on scum? EP, BP or Gobbles?

[Titus]

Scum Core: Die
- Titus
- Rabid Schnauzer
- Egix96
- EspressoPatronum

This scum core is another reason I don't trust you Gobbles.

Your scumcore is my two scumreads, me, and the one other guy voting EP. Your pool is about distancing from EP but shading those who want him dead.

Your interactions might as well be a neon sign of scum with EP and BP. I don't let people have their cake and eat it too.

[Titus]

Suji, can you help me get things going on scum? EP, BP or Gobbles?

Gobbledygook is Town. I think so more now than when I was just looking at Team STRQ.

Could you summarize why you so strongly believe that EspressoPatronum and BP are Mafia?

BP's vote was highly scum indicative. He complained about the pace of the game, which was slow. He also didn't vote anyone who was actively posting at the time. Those two together are basically a neon sign that BP just wants to lurk away. I highlighted this. EP agreed and we voted him. Then EP bails after picking a fight with obvtown Chronos.

I am rather annoyed at how often I have to repeat this.

Gobbles is distancing from the pair rather than scumhunting IMO.

[Titus]

I am not lock scumming you, so this is working with you. I'm not interrupting you. Instead, you OMGUS me when I tell you to get out of being Professor Gobble.

Professor Gobble never showed up in TvA. While others like your posts, I find there's a real possibility of S v S with EP.

I don’t know why you would still be voting me, is my point. You voting me doesn’t give off a “work with you” vibe. This aggression also seems out of place given the game, and given me.

I'd am voting you because you're the scumread I can get. That doesn't mean I'm not opposed to working with you to lynch EP or BP but you'd have to bus them and you have no incentive to do so right now. No one but me is going to hold you to your posting of your scumpool anyway.

[Titus]

Titus, how is your vote still on me?

Better yet.... why is her vote not on me?? She's been trying to stir up a wagon on me all day.

Because that would be a tunnel. I have all the evidence I need for EP scum (no one TRs you, but no one will vote you). I have the rest of the game to solve and the rest of the town won't work with me, there's only so much I can do. I'll take out the scummiest slots protecting you instead.

In this case, that's Gobble in a landslide.

I have no interest in readwalling for you because there's two lockscum reads (EP and BP) , one probably scum read (Gobble), one backup read (RS) and the rest are town by PoE. Could I be wrong? Sure.

You're already deep in a tunnel. Tunneling is confirmation bias, or tunnel vision, and your vote has nothing to do with it. See the link below:
https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... ation_Bias

Everything I do is confirming your misconception. You're actively resisting the only way I know how to get you out of that tunnel -- by engaging with you. So you're either town tunneling me hard or you're scum trying for a mislynch. In the event that I am wrong on the latter, I would like to engage with you to help correct the former.

If you insist on scumreading me this strongly without engaging in a good-faith dialogue, I ask that you at least do a blank-slate re-evaluation of me later.

The way you change my opinion of you is not to whine and pity party to me. It's to scumhunt. I don't need or want a dialogue with you, particularly one that is you pleading that you're not scum. That's what mastina and Adorable are doing. No one reads it either. It's boring and a waste of space.

I'm constantly reading this game. If someone flips scum outside of you three plus RS, I'll reset. If you actually scumhunt, I'll reset. Doing an intellectual exercise with Gobble is you two rolling around in mud.

[Titus]

VOTE: Adorable

Hi. Don't think I didn't notice this vote.

[Titus]

I am not lock scumming you, so this is working with you. I'm not interrupting you. Instead, you OMGUS me when I tell you to get out of being Professor Gobble.

Professor Gobble never showed up in TvA. While others like your posts, I find there's a real possibility of S v S with EP.

I don’t know why you would still be voting me, is my point. You voting me doesn’t give off a “work with you” vibe. This aggression also seems out of place given the game, and given me.

I'd am voting you because you're the scumread I can get. That doesn't mean I'm not opposed to working with you to lynch EP or BP but you'd have to bus them and you have no incentive to do so right now. No one but me is going to hold you to your posting of your scumpool anyway.

What do you mean by scumread [you] can get?

No one besides Egix is willing to vote EP atm. BP is coasting and no one cares. So that leaves you. You're the slot that has a wagon on it. I'd prefer EP or BP because they're patently obvscum (no one TRs them) but I'll settle for likely scum defending obvscum. Worst case scenario is removing a voice defending scum.

[Titus]

I don’t know why you are scumhunting with all of these associative reads when we have no flips to use.
You’re also saying 4 people could be scum which necessarily means you are wrong on one of those reads scum reads.

But you know I am scumhunting. That's the rub. You may not agree with my methods, but you know I am using them. You know this is how I hunt from T v A as well.

I'm likely wrong somewhere but I'm using a tiered way. It's Day 1. But my method will be lynch lock scum, then prob scum, then possible scum, then town blocking way of scum that aren't locktown.

Unless we get random hit that goes against my theory (unlikely day 1), then I'll just be in the same place tomorrow. So I'll go after my scumreads. You can either help or get out of the way.

[Titus]

@Adorable

I had you as a townlean because I strongly disagree with Raven's methods. He did something similar to me (ie. A condescending push) when I was town and he was scum, so his push on you suggested your towniness to me.

Mastina, on the other hand, put forward a compelling case against you. She is the reason I am now willing to vote you.

If your wagon continues to grow, I highly suggest you ignore Titus' advice and claim. Egix has rightfully pointed out that claiming loses some of its usefulness in a role madness game, but I'm willing to wait for your claim until I make up my mind.

If anyone doubts this is scum, just read these interactions.

EP: I townread Adorable.
Also EP: Claim, then I'll vote you.
Also Also EP: Mastina's regurgitated case is suddenly compelling after the hydra (now Gobble) leaves the game.
Also Also Also EP: My mind isn't made up.

EP just wants Adorable's claim.

[Titus]

@Titus - can you link me some of your town games? I tried to do a meta check, but you've been scum in every game I clicked, lol.

Try something a bit less ancient history. So almost any game this year that finished.

[Titus]

VOTE: EP

[Titus]

Great, you can disagree with me on Gobble. Do you feel my summary of EP's posting was accurate?

Chronos is obvtown from a quick read of his ISO. Scumhunting. Unafraid to be wrong and unabashedly so. He's focused on the whole game too. By far he's my biggest TR. Any reason why you're not TRing him? That'd be a unique position.

[Titus]

His response is in post 452.

[Titus]

Also, *grumbles* on Chronos hedge.

[Titus]

@EP, That's pointless unless you are suggesting that Gobble and Egix are partners.

Voting Adorable to increase the pressure does nothing if she buys me not telling her to claim and her wagon has peaked. It also diverts from you. 408 strongly indicates you're willing to vote Adorable whatever the claim. 446 is another threat towards claiming. It's dressed up but it might as well be claim or I'll vote you. Claiming is less useful in role madness so I'm going to keep my vote there.

It's plain as day. Just read the ISO and people can determine what's real and what isn't.

[Titus]

@EP, That's pointless unless you are suggesting that Gobble and Egix are partners.[...]

I don't think the VCA suggests that at all. Why do you think it does?

Egix looking for a fast lynch otherwise is NAI and time wasting.

[Titus]

@EP, That's pointless unless you are suggesting that Gobble and Egix are partners.[...]

I don't think the VCA suggests that at all. Why do you think it does?

Egix looking for a fast lynch otherwise is NAI and time wasting.

Limiting the amount of information generated in D1 (or any day, really) is a net win for scum.

You misinterpreted my question though. I'm asking why you think the VCA could suggest a Gobble + Egix pairing.

Unless Gobble plus Egix is a team, then Egix targeting any wagon is just a playstyle diversion and OMGUS.

[Titus]

Hey Pisskop. Convince me you're not scum?

[Titus]

VC 1.13

momo (4) - mastina, eyestott, Egix96, gobbledygook
EspressoPatronum (2) - Rabid Schnauzer, Titus
Titus (2) - Churros, EspressoPatronum
Egix96 (1) - Chronos
gobbledygook (1) - momo
eyestott (1) - alimdia
Chronos (1) - pisskop

Not voting: Sujimichi

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Day 1 ends in (expired on 2020-04-06 07:00:00) or when a lynch is reached.

I think the mono wagon is totally t v t

[Titus]

Well minus Gobble

[Titus]

My theory on 1.13

Momo is town. Only Gobble is scum voting him. This is to keep "momentum" on that mislynch.
EP is confusing to try and create an alternative mislynch in case momo falls apart.
This leaves RS/BP pisskop as scum off the major wagons. Pisskop keeping his vote useless isn't reassuring. Momo does have a point about RS but RS isn't likely scum with EP in this wagon setup.

[Titus]

*confusing = omgusing

[Titus]

. Can you all please share the gist of your flavor messages, so we can try and figure out who is telling the mod what to say?

Eyestott claimed it

[Titus]

VOTE: Rabid

*watches mastina and EP closely*

[Titus]

Mono, I got mine as two separate PMs. I think you got yours as one because you were a sub.

[Titus]

This isn't even close to what I'm saying. I'm not reading Titus as town because her actions are antitown. I think she's town because she chose to avoid RVS completely which isn't something I would expect Titus to do.

You should expect me to break out of RVS asap. I detest it. It's the best method to get the game started but it's not a good point. Basically, RVS is bad but no one has come up with anything else.

[Titus]

I'll be off tonight.

willing to hammer rabid

Yuck. Seriously reconsidering my rabid vote here.

The rapid case is weaker than EP and Pisskop's first move is to try and quick lynch rabid.

[Titus]

VOTE: EP

Ok, Gobble. If you felt like that, why not claim when you arrived? Not really interested in claims even though I SR you as I could be wrong. If you strongly feel your role is neg utility, do it.

[Titus]

Ok this is T v S on Rabid v EP, almost certainly. Definitely not S v S. Scum would pick one and paint the other wagon as town given the impending deadline.

Churros might take the place of Gobble in my scumreads. That would make my theory Churros, pisskop, EP.

[Titus]

Pisskop, why didn't you or your associate claim it? Or is ascetic hider a joke?

[Titus]

Is it the action they target you with only or any action?

[Titus]

VC 1.17

Rabid Schnauzer (4) - momo, mastina, eyestott, Churros
EspressoPatronum (3) - Rabid Schnauzer, Titus, gobbledygook
Egix96 (3) - Chronos, alimdia, EspressoPatronum
momo (1) - Egix96
mastina (1) - pisskop

Not voting: Sujimichi

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Day 1 ends in (expired on 2020-04-06 07:00:00) or when a lynch is reached.

Churros is V/LA during the weekend.

If anyone had any doubt as to Pisskop being scum, check the VC here. He disbands partially one wagon to go sit on a vanity mastina wagon.

There's about 1 day left too.

The problem is getting an EP lynch is near impossible when the moving slots are almost all scum. Churros and Pisskop have no reason to vote EP knowing that I'll have to collapse onto RS.

[Titus]

VOTE: RS

I think EP is scum but can't risk an NL. Plus, I got real demotivated on defending this slot when its Persivul. Sucks but real.

[Titus]

RS is at L minus 1

alimdia has expressed intent to hammer.

[Titus]

Wait why don’t we just kill Pisskop?

VOTE: pisskop

22 hours left. He's a great wagon tmo.

[Titus]

RS is lynched barring a lie somewhere. It's twilight. Post fast.

[Titus]

I've even less TRs with that nightkill.

I still SR Titus, and because of mastina kill I might also be looking in [Momo, Pisskop].

I do wonder the chances where this was a fearkill vs mastina was widely town read or another reason though.

First things first. I lied yesterday. I don't have a result. I am just a VT. If that gets me lynched today, so be it. I wasn't about to be flash lynched before the scumreads I thought I had caught.

Now, onto today's scumhunting.

Gobble, my meta is not bus happy at all as scum. I protect my "babies" as scum. Why are you putting forth that idea? Are you prepping for a world where you cannot lynch me but want to discredit my reads?

EP, fair question on the wagonomics. I'll do that when it's not 4 am.

[Titus]

Titus, what result did you imply you would have today?

I posted in the wrong game. Please disregard the PT Cop and lack of a result discussion.

[Titus]

The other stuff in that post is correct.

[Titus]

Looking at the wagons I see momo/EP and/or EP/pisskop. I scumread all three individually and collectively based on EoD.

[Titus]

I'm not going to make the same mistake I made in 2121.

What mistake is that?

[Titus]

EP, what are your thoughts on the major wagons and comparing them to day 1. I need to check whether it's new names on mono as opposed to the Adorable wagon. I'm asking you because we're essentially tiebreakers.

[Titus]

VOTE: pisskop

Is anyone TRing him at all? He's coasting, doing nothing which is exactly what his prior slot did.

[Titus]

EP, why are you voting on a wagon you completely scumread everyone on?

[Titus]

I got prodded.

We're still not lynching scum. Ok? Why?

[Titus]

Not going to lie, I think Momo flipping scum exonerates me as scum so I want to flip them.

*facepalm* We vote scum, not thinks to look town.

[Titus]

I’ve said pk is scum and a good vote since day start lol. You need to convince the others titus

You know what helps convince people? Votes.

[Titus]

pk feels town

VOTE: Egix96

faux casual tone reads scummy, pk has one too but egix seems a little afraid to commit the casualness

What about Pisskop feels town?

[Titus]

Yeah I am going to be skeptical of a masonry here. Just saying.

[Titus]

what made you some kind of masonry expert

Check my join date.

[Titus]

*gets professor cap*

There are a few reasons to fake masons

1) Express a strong TR so your target doesn't get lynched.
2) Bait a weaker slot into a nightkill rather than ml bait.
3) Get the real masons, if existing, to claim.

If I'm going with 2 atm.

[Titus]

Happy Birthday!

[Titus]

Momo wagon got deflected to pisskop now, interesting.

By Titus nonetheless.

I've always wanted Pisskop as my number 1 SR. Why is it surprising I lead the defectors away from momo v egix?

I am like 95% sure Egix is town and Pisskop is scum. Momo I would have compromised on at deadline.

[Titus]

we were doin the strat where we wanted to get a 2 mason 1 scum LYLO endgame

BUT YOU RUINED IT EVE

If this ever happens, it's scummy worthy.

[Titus]

Pisskop is still scum but deadline.

VOTE: momo

[Titus]

For those you who ask, I have a doctor's appointment 2 hours away at deadline. So I won't be here at the deadline and we need a lynch.

[Titus]

ok someone bussed I'm 100% sure but I'm also pretty confident that it means we hit scum

That wagon speed was just wow. I think scum got afraid of sitting on pisskop or egix when buddy!momo could go through?

With the deadline, I disagree. Scum could sit and force an NL unless Egix and Pisskop were also scum.

Momo might be scum, but busses would be in the middle, not the end.

[Titus]

VOTE: pisskop

[Titus]

@Titus, what's your read on gobble?

Gobble is lean scum for me.

Everyone else

Gobbles



EP/Pisskop

[Titus]

we arent my mylo, but we shouldnt accept 'some role flavorer did it' without demanding further explanation. It screams fake, whether from eyestott or from our masked-man joat.

I'm ok with this part. I want another conftown.

[Titus]

Im starting to think youre scum angling at me titus

Ok. Think what you want.

If you're innocent, the joat never comes forward, thus no conftown. So how is this an angle?

[Titus]

Yeah I would lynch pisskop probably without a massclaim, but I think massclaim is necessary

I would rather keep the other mason hidden. We need the joat to claim. Then tmo we can talk about mass claim. If the other mason dies, I'll be on board with massclaim.

[Titus]

Its not enough that a joat claims, or claims to have sent it. They need to fully claim, and explain why they didnt out yesterday, and wasted their mailman ability.

Why are you even supposing this joat exists?

[Titus]

Its not enough that a joat claims, or claims to have sent it. They need to fully claim, and explain why they didnt out yesterday, and wasted their mailman ability.

Why are you even supposing this joat exists?

???

because it might? Im not discounting the possibility that eyestott got a mailman but the mailer is a liar who can get roped.

They'd just shut up instead.

I find it odd you're wanting a full claim X shot tracker my ass.

[Titus]

Churros, you need to confirm how your ability works in connection with NAR

pedit: send it to eyestott because eyestott would be alive

And not voting Pisskop already

[Titus]

It is like so incredibly obvious who the mailer is and this is exactly the type of play they do lol

Then who is it?

[Titus]

Ok. Then we'll wait on the mailman.

[Titus]

Yeah I would lynch pisskop probably without a massclaim, but I think massclaim is necessary

I would rather keep the other mason hidden. We need the joat to claim. Then tmo we can talk about mass claim. If the other mason dies, I'll be on board with massclaim.

Outing the other mason might buy the JOAT more time alive. It'd force scum to pick between them.

Revealing the mason gives scum a roadmap to kill. A hidden mason in lylo or stopping their own mislynch is more valuable.

Hiding my last mason was something I did to great success in T v A. Scum just were literally out of mislynches because we coordinated.

[Titus]

Given everyone but alimada has posted, logic dictates alimada is the joat or the joat doesn't exist.

[Titus]

Fair point. If we don't end up massclaiming and if the mason makes it far, we're leaving it up to the mason to win a counterclaim scenario. I suppose they'll have to assess their chances there and plan accordingly.

I fully expect the mason to win any CC setup. Chronos bit a fair amount of suspicion before the replace out. We just see who never suspected him or had an abnormally strong read. I already know who the mason is.

[Titus]

it might be a scum mailman . . .

do you think its likely we are dealing with duplicate roles? I mean, we _do_ have _2_ masons. What about a joat with a sampler of several other player abilities?

So it claims and we go gee this guy has everyone else's role, so we lynch it?

I'm setting aside the mailman and supposing we lynch Egix or EP today. As much as I think Pisskop is scum, that move only makes sense for Pisskop scum if eyestott flips scum first and Pisskop just voted eye.

VOTE: Egix

[Titus]

VOTE: EP

I don't like his recent posting about claiming eyestott could be a scum rolecop. Looks like he's lynch fishing.

Gobble, who did you target?

[Titus]

Unless you think eye is the third, why would scum fake a guilty on their own?

[Titus]

Is it any worse than a scum vig? Ive totes seen scum viggies, especially in theme games.

Scum vigs are bugged are banned in normals.

Can we not push this further?

[Titus]

I mean I have a pretty good indication of who the mason is. I think I also know who the JoAT is, and who the flavor revealer is, but I’m not putting that info. If my hunches are correct then I think my earlier PoE is pretty good. Like I said, if you’re town I don’t think eyestott is scum. I see literally no reason eyestott as scum does what he did

Pk would you want to wagon Titus?

Yeet?

I dont think its the strongest move of the day, but yes.

EP is a stronger move. I am thinking EP/Egix plus one more.

[Titus]

I'm not comfortable with fully revealing everyone's flavour.
I'm not convinced that this information is useless, and I could be shooting the town in the foot by revealing their role flavour if there are other roles that have effects if flavour is known

A reveal of two flavours will suffice then.

Before the main wagon is lynched, I would like you to post their exact flavour. No more "watch out for John Snow" or mysterious clues, just their exact flavour.

In addition, pick one person who isn't me/Egix/gobble/Titus and post their exact flavour. The revealer can confirm that person's flavour tonight.

EP here wanting more reveals. He rolefishes the mason, now this.

Why can't I get support here?

[Titus]

I'm not comfortable with fully revealing everyone's flavour.
I'm not convinced that this information is useless, and I could be shooting the town in the foot by revealing their role flavour if there are other roles that have effects if flavour is known

A reveal of two flavours will suffice then.

Before the main wagon is lynched, I would like you to post their exact flavour. No more "watch out for John Snow" or mysterious clues, just their exact flavour.

In addition, pick one person who isn't me/Egix/gobble/Titus and post their exact flavour. The revealer can confirm that person's flavour tonight.

EP here wanting more reveals. He rolefishes the mason, now this.

Why can't I get support here?

Can you please just do like a 5 min meta dive on me. People consistently say this rolefishing line (or some variation) about me, but I'm always just trying to gain more information for the town. Mainstream Mafia II and Gay Mafia (TM 20) are two easy examples of this in my recent games.

I've been very transparent in wanting a mass claim today. Since that isn't going to happen, I at least want information to help solidify my flavour theory.

Do you disagree with my flavour theory? Why/why not? In addition, what do you make of flavour + how can we use it?

I am not helping you role fish. You being anti-town every game is irrelevant. It's not just anti-town here it's proscum. I don't do meta, not even five minute dives.

Stop rolefishing. Tell me who is scum.

[Titus]

Alrighty. I’m just going to do this because this game is stalling.
Egix is the JoAT. Eve is the mason. Flavor revealer has to be EP.

Smh. We are not confirming or denying this.

Mod: Prod Egix please

[Titus]

The guilty is likely fake. Unless Egix claims it (unlikely), the most likely setup is Pisskop was framed.

[Titus]

VOTE: Egix

I don't buy Egix's clueless routine here and EP's recent posting feels like dumb town flail.

EP, your role doesn't have to be useful. However, combined with our doc flip, it looks bad for you. Avoid having your flavor revealed. Sure just get healed by the doctor.

[Titus]

I actually agree with Pisskop.

Join me Pisskop? It's better than you fypov.

[Titus]

Titus there’s a guilty on your highest scum priority pick and you don’t want to vote it?

Because no one claimed it

[Titus]

Given no one claimed the guilty, it screams Pisskop is being framed.

[Titus]

EP, There's a difference between "Someone has a guilty" and let's out all the conftown. Without an owner, there is no guilty. If there's no guilty, then Pisskop is framed.

I don't like it either as it means my early scumread was wrong but facts are facts.

[Titus]

I have no idea whether the joat has actions remaining. That requires the mystical, nonexistent joat to claim.

Pisskop claimed X shot tracker too.

[Titus]

The joat is only conftown if it claims. The mason is conftown regardless.

[Titus]

EP, that assumes the mailman is actually a joat. We have no proof of such. The absence of proof means either a) eyestott is lying, b) the sender is scum or c) the joat is an idiot because people should think a or b.

Pisskop might have useful actions as much as this "joat".

[Titus]

I mean even before gobbles speculated, I had my own guess' on who was what.

Saying 'we dont need them to claim because we have enough info' is kind of what scum want. No scum worth their salt is going to not going to be combing through isoes.

What is better, is to have both claim, force scum to choose between a joat with a mystery shot, a mason, and a tracker, and see what they pick from that.

Potentially useful role or mechanical clear?

This whole day has become about hiding players that, at this stage, should not want to be hidden.

I'm assuming these are directed at me, so I'll reiterate my stance again. I agree that a mass claim would be useful here, as stated earlier:

I support a full claim today.

If we're actually in mylo, I'd prefer if the JOAT confirmed eyestott's story.

I really think today is the day to fullclaim, given all the claim shenanigans going on right now

However, given that

Titus, Egix, Eve, eyestott, and alimdia are evidently against a full claim

, I think the JOAT staying undercover is the next best option. Please see my most recent posts for an explanation of why I think it is the next best option.

No. Any mystical joat with a guilty should full claim. Period.

[Titus]

Why is JOAT conftown?

If it claims, then we can confirm the Pisskop guilty. The guilty confirmation makes it conftown.

If not, it's a lie.

[Titus]

Sorry, I'm not in the mood to play mafia and I couldn't get a confident solve before this so I don't know who to vote here.

I'm fine defaulting to consensus, town is winning substantially more than losing nowadays.

Is our consensus one of [eye/pk]? I'm fine voting whoever of them come to L-1.

No. EP is scum.

However, Pisskop is at L-1.

[Titus]

no the scum joat could fakeclaim a guilty and buss for towncred

if you claim i'm lynching you joat

You just plummeted my read on you.

[Titus]

Well, these people are voting EP in light of thinking the guilty on PK is fake. Why would those people not be voting for eyestott, the claimer of the guilty they think is fake, or vote for someone who could have the mailman ability now that it’s been revealed EP’s night action is not to send mail?

How does that turn into an EP vote?

Because both scenarios deal with could be not what actually is. It could be that Alimeda lied and sent a fake guilty (scum did that in Boon There done that) or eyestott could be lying. I have more confidence in EP scum than mechanical could bes.

[Titus]

wut why would I claim mailman then?

That's why I don't like you as I fake guilty person. You could just be getting ahead of it. Remind me who you sent mail to?

[Titus]

Only one player can have possibly sent that mail, based off all the claims

No, Titus.

titus seems pretty sure Im not guilty.

If Titus is the only one to have sent the mail but thinks pk is innocent, then why wouldn't she be voting eyestott for lying about the contents of the mail?!

She evidently didn't send the mail.

Because in Boon There Done That scum sent a fake guilty.

Dude, your hand is so far up the cookie jar, it's in the oven.

[Titus]

and everyone has plausible deniability if pisskop flips town.

like eyescotts gonna say he got the mail, and nobodys gonna take ownership of that mail

List of options:
- if pk flips town, we know somebody lied but nobody will take ownership of it.
- if pk flips scum, there's a good chance that the sender of the mail is town. It looks good on eyestott, too.

If we lynch eyestott:
- and he's scum, we know he tried to frame pk and/or bait claims.
- and he's town, we still don't know if the contents of the letter were accurate AND we don't know who sent it. Nobody will take ownership for it.

Voting pk is better because getting it right on pk is better than getting it right on eyestott. Getting it wrong on pk is less bad than getting it wrong on eyestott. .

Or we simply vote you for rolefishing and play mafia.

[Titus]

Only one player can have possibly sent that mail, based off all the claims

I am just going to facepalm at this.

[Titus]

VOTE: pisskop

boom that's the win fools

So scum won? Based on a fake guilty?

Congrats to you and EP then.

[Titus]

VOTE: Eve

[Titus]

My gut is telling me not to post the synopsis I just wrote until D4 morning.
I hope for everyone’s sake that I’m right.
VOTE: pisskop

Yeah no. There's no reason not to since you have to paraphrase and not direct quote.

UNVOTE: Eve

[Titus]

VOTE: Churros

Me
Eve
Pisskop Alimeda
Gobble
Churros
EP

New readslist

[Titus]

VOTE: Churros

Me
Eve
Pisskop Alimeda
Gobble
Churros
EP

New readslist

Ebwop Eye is at Gobblr and that's the line of null.

[Titus]

Bring it punks.

[Titus]

He's the one that gives flavor.

That's his flavor.

It technically means not something the mod has choosen to him, but something he choose himself.

Hmmm.

Perhaps Eyestott is scum who only flavors town?

[Titus]

I still am against massclaim. Scum couldn't shoot the mason.

My pool is Alimeda, gobble, eyestott. Preference gobble.

[Titus]

Wait forgot EP damn.

[Titus]

Point blank, no one claimed the guilty. It was fake. Eve was the mailman, not Alimeda. I scumread liars unless explained. The guilty on Pisskop was accurate but faked.

[Titus]

I need to reset because there are only two mafia though before my VCA.

[Titus]

You've Eye in your pool.

Do you think the way he reacted to the "guilty" was partner-indicative or it's a read independent of that?

If Eye is Pisskop's partner, he can't deny the guilty. He'd link them both with no third scum to carry.

[Titus]

Willing to put my money where my mouth is, 95% odds on Egix or EP being the second scum.

[Titus]

My pool is Alimeda, gobble, eyestott. Preference gobble.

There's no egix here either?

I eyeballed the VCA.

[Titus]

Egix, EP, why should I townread you and lynch the other?

[Titus]

Egix, EP, why should I townread you and lynch the other?

Reread the entirety of yesterday. I don't need to tell you when my play speaks for itself.

This is unhelpful. Yesterday I wanted to lynch you. I still do. You're supposed to try and convince me not to lynch you.

[Titus]

My pool is Alimeda, gobble, eyestott. Preference gobble.

There's no egix here either?

I eyeballed the VCA.

Egix, EP, why should I townread you and lynch the other?

Is your lynch pool literally everyone except you and Churros?

Nope. Right now it's Egix and EP.

[Titus]

gobble was looking for every opportunity to leave pk's wagon.

My VCA clears Gobble.

You're welcome to vote Egix.

[Titus]

My pool is Alimeda, gobble, eyestott. Preference gobble.

There's no egix here either?

I eyeballed the VCA.

Egix, EP, why should I townread you and lynch the other?

Is your lynch pool literally everyone except you and Churros?

Nope. Right now it's Egix and EP.

One of the quotes is you saying you prefer me in your pool...

Check the order. VCA trumps play. Everytime.

[Titus]

gobble was looking for every opportunity to leave pk's wagon.

My VCA clears Gobble.

You're welcome to vote Egix.

How does it clear gobble?

Click the temporal iso.

Look where Gobble is when Pisskop was an option.

[Titus]

Can I have a list of everyone’s top three picks for the remaining scum?

Egix EP

Take a random guess

[Titus]

Yeah my VCA works without context EP. It's infuriating to some.

[Titus]

Yeah my VCA works without context EP. It's infuriating to some.

I mean, I just demonstrated that it doesn't.

Feel free to dispute my ideas with reasons of your own rather than dogmatic assertions.

I await your reasons for how gobble's VCA clears him. Merely asserting that it clears him isn't persuasive.

If anyone needs persuading, they just look at Gobble's votes in Temporal's ISO rather than spinning a narrative. Narratives are easy. Truth isn't.

[Titus]

I'm not voting Gobble until you and Egix are dead, so that's a thing.

[Titus]

I'm not voting Gobble until you and Egix are dead, so that's a thing.

Then I sincerely hope I don't make it to lylo with you.

The odds of me making it to lylo are near zero anyway. Basic math and common sense.

As long as you or Egix is the lynch, I am fine. My preference is Egix. Your VCA gives a bit of a townbeard vibe if I am 100% honest.

[Titus]

VOTE: Titus

[Titus]

My position on massclaim has changed. Basically, I am PoEd to be the mason at this point.

[Titus]

VOTE: Egix

Great, can we win now?

[Titus]

If Egix flips and the game is not over FFS lynch EP.

[Titus]

My bet is it was funneled through EP, not Egix. Remember Pisskop implied he had more shots. That doesn't happen if Egix dies.

But let's flip Egix then I die. EP coasts. Sounds good?

[Titus]

I'll post VCA details later today.

[Titus]

Hmm.

Who is scum Egix? You haven't voiced any reads yet.

If you plan to re:read before, when?

don't you have any guts either?

VOTE: Alimdia

^ This is whom I'm most sure of, with gobble in second.

I did a quick-and-dirty reread yesterday, as I summarised in 1574.

Notice how Egix still won't go after EP.

[Titus]

VC 1.2

EspressoPatronum (4) - Team STRQ, mastina, Chronos, Egix96
Chronos (2) - eyestott, BP
BSG (1) - EspressoPatronum
Adorable (1) - alimdia
Team STRQ (1) - Rabid Schnauzer
BP (1) - Titus

Not voting: BSG, Shadowlesscloud, Adorable

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2020-04-02 21:40:44) or when a lynch is reached.

EP wagon...dead dead dead, scum suspect

BP scum is chain sawing Chronos

EP is voting dead slot (BSG is Eve)

VC 1.15

Rabid Schnauzer (3) - momo, mastina, eyestott
EspressoPatronum (3) - Rabid Schnauzer, Titus, gobbledygook
Titus (2) - Churros, EspressoPatronum
Egix96 (2) - Chronos, alimdia
momo (1) - Egix96
Chronos (1) - pisskop

Not voting: Sujimichi

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Day 1 ends in (expired on 2020-04-06 07:00:00) or when a lynch is reached.

VC 1.16

Rabid Schnauzer (6) - momo, mastina, eyestott, Churros, EspressoPatronum, pisskop [L-1]

EspressoPatronum (3) - Rabid Schnauzer, Titus, gobbledygook
Egix96 (2) - Chronos, alimdia
momo (1) - Egix96

Not voting: Sujimichi

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Day 1 ends in (expired on 2020-04-06 07:00:00) or when a lynch is reached.

Churros is V/LA during the weekend.

Scum confirmed preferring an RS over EP.

VC 1.18

Rabid Schnauzer (7) - momo, mastina, eyestott, Churros, EspressoPatronum, Titus, gobbledygook [LYNCH!]

Egix96 (2) - Chronos, alimdia
EspressoPatronum (1) - Rabid Schnauzer
momo (1) - Egix96
mastina (1) - pisskop

Not voting: Sujimichi

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Day 1 ends in (expired on 2020-04-06 07:00:00) or when a lynch is reached.

Churros is V/LA during the weekend.

Scum EP revotes here once scum PK gets off.

[Titus]

VC 2.5

momo (3) - Sujimichi, Egix96, Churros
pisskop (3) - Titus, gobbledygook, Bingle
Egix96 (2) - alimdia, EspressoPatronum
gobbledygook (1) - momo

Not voting: eyestott, pisskop

With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch.

Day 2 will end in (expired on 2020-04-17 15:25:00) or when a lynch is reached.

VC 2.6

pisskop (4) - Titus, gobbledygook, Bingle, Eve [L-2]

Egix96 (3) - alimdia, EspressoPatronum, momo
momo (2) - Egix96, Churros

Not voting: eyestott, pisskop

With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch.

Day 2 will end in (expired on 2020-04-17 17:50:00) or when a lynch is reached.

Edit: I have fixed the deadline in this votecount. Sorry for the confusion.

VC 2.7

pisskop (5) - Titus, gobbledygook, Bingle, Eve, Churros [L-1]

Egix96 (3) - alimdia, EspressoPatronum, momo
momo (1) - Egix96

Not voting: eyestott, pisskop

With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch.

Day 2 will end in (expired on 2020-04-17 17:50:00) or when a lynch is reached.

VC 2.8

momo (6) - Egix96, eyestott, Churros, pisskop, EspressoPatronum, Titus [LYNCH!]

pisskop (3) - gobbledygook, Bingle, Eve
Egix96 (3) - alimdia, momo

Not voting:

With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch.

Day 2 will end in (expired on 2020-04-17 17:50:00) or when a lynch is reached.

@mod is alignment rolled after or before a role is given to a slot here?

just for setup spec sake.

I can't answer this question.

Pisskop wagon avoided by EP, despite deadline. EP throws support behind mono who gets sppedlynched with Pisskop help.

[Titus]

So EP, is this all a major coincidence?

Why should I vote Egix over you?

[Titus]

Hardly, my VCA says you're scum OR the townbeard. You could be a traitor as well.

I was asked to case you specifically. Also my VCA never includes context. It's usually right.

[Titus]

Hardly, my VCA says you're scum OR the townbeard. You could be a traitor as well.

I was asked to case you specifically. Also my VCA never includes context. It's usually right.

What is a townbeard?

A town that tries their best but might as well be an additional scumfuck.

[Titus]

Also, ofc your VCA is going to usually be right if you say it points to someone being town OR scum, lol.

It's either you, or it's Egix. Individually, I don't 100% know if you're scum, but it's down to the two of you.

[Titus]

Ok, you can vote Egix if you finally want to be protown EP.

[Titus]

Ok, you can vote Egix if you finally want to be protown EP.

VC 3.8

pisskop

(5) -

Eve

,

EspressoPatronum

, gobbledygook, Churros, eyestott [LYNCH!]

Eve

(2) -

pisskop

,

Titus

eyestott (1) - alimdia

Not voting:

With 8 alive it takes 5 to lynch.

Day 3 will end in (expired on 2020-04-29 17:00:00) or when a lynch is reached.

Churros is V/LA until April 28th.

What do you call a townbeard who's more useful than your mason?


I'll vote Egix once we assess alimdia's claim.

Edited with more colours to really spell it out for you.

Voting after a guilty doesn't matter. That day was all about a guilty or the legitimacy thereof. I had tunneled Pisskop before Eve made up a guilty. Doubting a liar is absolutely normal.

[Titus]

Mod, if there were three mafia, unless one was a traitor, your Pisskop PM was very misleading.

[Titus]

Second, we had 3 v 2 wtf

[Titus]

Yeah, didn't help the mod outright stated 2 scum not 3 so none of the town thought it was anywhere near lylo.

[Titus]

Factional Abilities:
• You are a member of the Mafia, along with [redacted].

This strongly implies only 2 scum in the game, and it is what I based my VCA on.

[Titus]

Lich, I wouldn't take this too personally. You tried something you thought was fun -- I clearly felt the same way -- and it didn't get raves from all sides. That's okay. There's nothing wrong with that.

+1 My comments should be taken as constructive criticism.

[Titus]

Yeah, didn't help the mod outright stated 2 scum not 3 so none of the town thought it was anywhere near lylo.

... when did I say this?

If you're talking about the flip, the flip was not supposed to clue into how many scum exist.

You did the opposite.

To hide the number of scum, say you may talk to your partner(s) [redacted] in the PT.

[Titus]

If I did, then I have inadvertently gave info that I shouldn't have and also lied as a moderator in a non-bastard game, which means that this game should be null and void due to a game-ruining moderator error.

I had fun, but I do consider this game null and void for the reason you stated.

[Titus]

Bro, chill. Nobody is going to do anything to you. You made a clerical error at best, that's not worthy of not getting experience.

+1 human error doesn't require list mods. I have personally done worse.