Mini 2134 Gin's Joint Pick4U - GAME OVER

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Engineer sounds like it messes with other items.

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eavesdropper sounds like it invades pts and listens in without being able to post

Those would be my guesses

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Anybody want to bite the bullet and explain what spiked kool-aid does for everyone else?

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I vote to start the game

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I already tried to grab the watcher

Did not work, I actually only have $1

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We should all be accountable for where our points are going this game

There are powers like Vig and Ninja in the black market, and if you had enough points to buy one of those and we need to lynch one of those and you can't show what you spent your points on, you should be lynched

Eavesdropper is a half provable role if it lets you spy on neighborhoods, bp isn't but there's only 1 of those

Spiked kool-aid, I don't know what that does, we shouldn't all rush to buy it until some inquisitive soul decides to buy it (and explain what it is, which is important since it shows where their points went for later, and lets us decide whether we want to avoid it or what.

So IMO, if spiked kool-aid is something that makes your points unaccountable, we shouldn't tolerate people buying it

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We should all be accountable for where our points are going this game

There are powers like Vig and Ninja in the black market, and if you had enough points to buy one of those and we need to lynch one of those and you can't show what you spent your points on, you should be lynched

Eavesdropper is a half provable role if it lets you spy on neighborhoods, bp isn't but there's only 1 of those

Spiked kool-aid, I don't know what that does, we shouldn't all rush to buy it until some inquisitive soul decides to buy it (and explain what it is, which is important since it shows where their points went for later, and lets us decide whether we want to avoid it or what.

So IMO, if spiked kool-aid is something that makes your points unaccountable, we shouldn't tolerate people buying it

@Mod, will you just tell us what spiked Kool-Aid does if we just asked you?

At least, what's the difference between day and black market roles?

Sure just buy it and I'll explain it

Definitely agree to accountability point-wise in some form, but voicing that beforehand gives information to scum and it may prevent the utility of secrecy for a role such as a doc PR to avoid 2 role stops. I also haven't really played a game before that incorporates the mechanic of buying roles, or when they come into effect upon buying them.

I want to know how you best think accountability should be laid out.

People should eventually be able to explain where all their points went, and it shouldn't be something unprovable. If somebody goes for a doc, there are only a certain amount of those in the store, so it's somewhat confirmable. I'm not saying people should claim what they buy immediately, but that they should be able to claim it eventually.

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VOTE: Bulbazak

I don't trust this guy at all

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Maria has a post restriction or is faking a post restriction, and it appears her quoting does not count and put her onto the list.

What does that mean mastina?

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OK. Based on what?

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mod edited one of her posts

What does that have to do with your neighborhood?

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Pink ball wasn't even being voted, so somebody else is doing something

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Another random neighborhood claim

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I'm not picking up what you're putting down MariaR

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Day Market
In stock	Ability	Shots	Phase	Price
X	Eavesdropper	1	Night	1
1	Cop	1	Night	3
1	Doctor	2	Night	2
X	BP	1	Night	1
1	Tracker	1	Night	2
1	Watcher	1	Night	2
2	Engineer	1	Day	2
Unlimited	Spiked Kool-Aid	1	Day	1

Anyone notice that the Eavesdropper and BP are gone?

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I think we should vote Bulbazek. They only seem concerned with what the third party claim is doing. 209 and 222 were weird posts.

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Explain how there is scum in there. What's wrong with voting the third party claim?

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so i plunged into the chaotic, demonic realm and drank that

spiked kool-aid

was told that I'm tipsy, and broke :D

So it doesn't do anything?

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And if it doesn't do anything, why keep that a secret Penguin?

Eh...I think they have a reason behind their play so far and I kinda just like them for the pagetop setup so...

What do you like about their play?

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Did you buy the spiked kool-aid and then not tell anyone that it did nothing?

What do you like about their play?

I liked the pagetop setup...which is what I said.

So you don't think they're town?

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MariaR's text is increasing in size

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Did you or did you not buy the spiked kool-aid Penguin?

MariaR, what is the significance behind your increasing text size?

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I interpreted post 253 as if you had drank it, did I misunderstand?

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ok. Why didn't you tell us it did nothing?

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Because Bulba already said it makes you tipsy?

So why did you buy it?

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I don't think you've ever explained why you purchased the spiked kool-aid, knowing it does nothing. Do you want to do that now, or will you continue to run me around in circles?

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I don't see it.

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It's getting bigger

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Alisae and MariaR are voting twice?

vote count fixed

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I'M FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Nice

@Enter: You still have yet to give a reason why masturbating would be bad.

p-edit: This neutral 3rd party fear has always been bull crap. Most players with a neutral 3rd party still have a town bent, which means they are more likely to help town than scum if given the choice. Lynching them wastes a lynch and ignores any help they can give. They are an easy wagon for scum to push and hide on. If you want to vig them, fine, but if the objective is easily obtainable and does not go against our wincon, there's no point wasting time trying to kill them.

What is the difference between lynching mastina and vigging mastina that makes one of those acceptable?

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A vig is 100% town controlled

Anybody can buy the vig from the black market.

and can be used to get rid of players or roles that can hurt the town in the long run or that can cause a distraction.

But lynching the same players is scum motivated?

Given that vigs are readily available, that should be an easy choice for anyone that wants to get rid of mastina because of the 3p claim. Policy lynching mastina just because she claimed 3p is going to shorten the day and not give us as much information as literally any other lynch.

First off, the vig power costs 3 - it's not readily available on night 1 unless somebody decides to send their money to somebody else, or if somebody has a role that gives them more money.
Second, again, anyone can grab the vig power. Including the third party claim.

It sounds like you're saying we should vig the third party claim instead of lynching them, and that's not what you were arguing earlier either, you were saying the third party was easily provable/benign, or something. Actually, you've been pushing third party agendas harder than the third party claim.

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I'm not 100% sold on mastina's read, but I figure she knows Pine better than I do,

Mastina's role as described has no incentive to try to lynch mafia.

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I'm not 100% sold on mastina's read, but I figure she knows Pine better than I do,

Mastina's role as described has no incentive to try to lynch mafia.

Which is why we lynch the fuck out of her for being literal anti town.

So why are you swinging at Bulba again

He's siding with 3p to a degree that looks unnatural, to the point where it looks like he is more concerned about Mastina winning than town.

UNVOTE: Bulbazak

I'm willing to rethink this, I think that his 'don't lynch mastina, shoot her instead' thing deserves more critical review though.

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Pink Ball really needs death.

Unsure

Never kill Enter or whatever the fuck his name is.

Agree

Please kill Mastina.

Not sure if necessary to kill vs ignore

Pine is always scum.

Why, because of his vote?

anyway, Ari/Maria is not two townies.

Ari needs to get in the game, Maria became able to post but hasn't really told us anything - not sure what to think

Dunn for town, Bulba for town because DUnn is never right if Dunn is right on Bulba I would need a complete rework on reads which is possible but who cares dunn is never right

Sorry if I have undermined you in the past, I'm not looking to make this game toxic

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Pink Ball I don't like your lack of doing anything substantive

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@Enter: You still have yet to give a reason why masturbating would be bad.

p-edit: This neutral 3rd party fear has always been bull crap. Most players with a neutral 3rd party still have a town bent, which means they are more likely to help town than scum if given the choice. Lynching them wastes a lynch and ignores any help they can give. They are an easy wagon for scum to push and hide on. If you want to vig them, fine, but if the objective is easily obtainable and does not go against our wincon, there's no point wasting time trying to kill them.

What is the difference between lynching mastina and vigging mastina that makes one of those acceptable?

Lynches are not 100% town controlled and are one of the best sources of information on later days. That's why policy lynching a 3p "just because" is bad, because it's easy for scum to blend in, creates too much noise in the moment, and might not be useful on later days. And that's ignoring that there are certain 3p roles you don't want to lynch at all in a self-proclaimed bastard game where everything is on the table. A vig is 100% town controlled and can be used to get rid of players or roles that can hurt the town in the long run or that can cause a distraction.

Given that vigs are readily available, that should be an easy choice for anyone that wants to get rid of mastina because of the 3p claim. Policy lynching mastina just because she claimed 3p is going to shorten the day and not give us as much information as literally any other lynch.

You asked the difference between lynching and vigging. I gave you the simplified answer. Scum are not going to shoot mastina. Only town will. And lynches provide more information than vigging. I really don't see how informative a mastina lynch would be if she's a 3p, which was why she was being waggoned. Outside of that, I'm not arguing semantics with you.

Same thing with the 3p claim and why I'm against lynching her. I've given my reasons. Why is wanting to test a verifiable claim of a neutral 3p scum motivated, especially when it could tell us who is town and who is scum?

Gamma Emerald, what do you think of these posts by Bulbazak?

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Hey gamma can you take a look at 548 for me?

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Just that? Is there flavor text?

Nope.

What purpose does this line of questioning serve?

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@Enter: You still have yet to give a reason why masturbating would be bad.

p-edit: This neutral 3rd party fear has always been bull crap. Most players with a neutral 3rd party still have a town bent, which means they are more likely to help town than scum if given the choice. Lynching them wastes a lynch and ignores any help they can give. They are an easy wagon for scum to push and hide on. If you want to vig them, fine, but if the objective is easily obtainable and does not go against our wincon, there's no point wasting time trying to kill them.

What is the difference between lynching mastina and vigging mastina that makes one of those acceptable?

Lynches are not 100% town controlled and are one of the best sources of information on later days. That's why policy lynching a 3p "just because" is bad, because it's easy for scum to blend in, creates too much noise in the moment, and might not be useful on later days. And that's ignoring that there are certain 3p roles you don't want to lynch at all in a self-proclaimed bastard game where everything is on the table. A vig is 100% town controlled and can be used to get rid of players or roles that can hurt the town in the long run or that can cause a distraction.

Given that vigs are readily available, that should be an easy choice for anyone that wants to get rid of mastina because of the 3p claim. Policy lynching mastina just because she claimed 3p is going to shorten the day and not give us as much information as literally any other lynch.

You asked the difference between lynching and vigging. I gave you the simplified answer. Scum are not going to shoot mastina. Only town will. And lynches provide more information than vigging. I really don't see how informative a mastina lynch would be if she's a 3p, which was why she was being waggoned. Outside of that, I'm not arguing semantics with you.

Same thing with the 3p claim and why I'm against lynching her. I've given my reasons. Why is wanting to test a verifiable claim of a neutral 3p scum motivated, especially when it could tell us who is town and who is scum?

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Alright big boy time, some of you guys are letting Bulbazek get away with pushing some truly mind boggling and anti-town agendas while knowing full well that he has knowledge he hasn't displayed in the main thread that means he's straight up lying and trying to get town to waste their resources. If you guys aren't going to call him out, I'm going to call you out.


PT: mastina, Bulbazak, Penguinpower, Gamma Emerald, aristophanes

mastina claims 3p instantly
Bulbazek asks the general neighborhood to give him money for the night phase
Bulbazek immediately starts buttering up to mastina, and asking for her reads, and trying to get her money before she gets lynched
Bulbazek points out that the vote count won't result in a lynch on mastina (allegedly)
mastina claims to have bought the bulletproof vest
mastina says she cannot win while dead
Bulbazek says that the neighborhood should keep the fact that mastina has the bp a secret
Penguinpower agrees with the above

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In the main thread:

Bulbazek tells people to vig mastina instead of lynching her, and makes up reasons for why it's better for town to shoot her instead of lynching her, while knowing that she has a bp
Bulbazek says that only town would shoot at mastina

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Bulbazek says that if anyone gets a vig shot, shoot Enter
Penguinpower claims to have bought spike kool-aid
Bulbazek posts a read list that is pretty wild - He can share it if he wants, I won't
Aristophanes asks for people to send him money

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Penguinpower, Aristophanes, and Gamma Emerald:

Why did none of you point out that Bulbazek knew that mastina had a bp vest, but that he still asked for town to shoot her instead of lynching her?
Why did you guys keep mastina purchasing the bp vest a secret? She's not town, and Bulbazek argued that only town would shoot her.

Bulbazek:

Why did you continue to keep the bp vest a secret, while thinking there was scum in the neighborhood?

Penguinpower:

Why do you claim to have bought spiked kool-aid after having learned that it does nothing? Your points are now unaccountable, and you could grab something like the vig or ninja for nefarious purposes while pretending you wasted your points on spiked kool-aid, and there would be no way to prove it either way.

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mastina, I'm not willing to listen to your reads this game because you clearly have a built-in role bias for wanting to keep certain members, such as Bulbazek, alive - as they're hard siding with you. Whereas pine is a road block for you, but that doesn't mean he's a good lynch for US, and I can't believe anything you say because you clearly want him dead for other reason.

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Bulbazek is coming across to me as "too scummy to be scum" - he really pulled that when his neighborhood has 5 people talking in it. mastina is one of those, but still, what about the other 3? They should have called him out on that.

Ari is still acting like the neighborhood is all town.

Gamma just showed where they are leaning, and I don't like it. I even quoted it for him and he didn't seem interested in answering at all.

Penguin has multiple strikes against him.

I'll vote for Ari or Penguin right now.

VOTE: Penguinpower

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Now, a question for you: How do you know what we were talking about in our neighborhood?

I've been part of it since the start, I just haven't posted.

Consequentially, the chances that a 6 person neighborhood has no mafia in it in a 13 player game is pretty much 0, so I don't really think it's worth posting in there.

PSA. if you suspect someone is hiding in your neighborhood, you can try sending them money and see if it works.

Bulbazek says that the neighborhood should keep the fact that mastina has the bp a secret

Keeping the BP recipient secret is a pretty good move. Town doesn't need to know who has it, as they are likely anti-scum, and scum are better kept in the dark so they make sub-optimal choices.

In the main thread:

Bulbazek tells people to vig mastina instead of lynching her, and makes up reasons for why it's better for town to shoot her instead of lynching her, while knowing that she has a bp
Bulbazek says that only town would shoot at mastina

In general, I'd rather neutral or beneficial 3ps be vigged instead of lynched, because lynches are more informative, and that's also the whole point of vigs. Personally, I'd rather just leave them alone, but you can't really convince people to do that.
Outside of that, I really hadn't put much thought into it. I really didn't care how much a vig cost, because I had no intention on buying one. And if someone wanted to be stupid and shoot mastina, that's their own problem. Anyone with half a brain should have figured out that the 3p that needs to stay alive until their wincon was met probably bought the bp.

But you don't think mafia will shoot at mastina, so it doesn't need to be kept a secret from the town.
Your thought process here doesn't really make sense.
As I said though, I kind of suspect the other people in the neighborhood for letting you get away with pushing this without prompting you for an explanation or saying anything. Maybe not Gamma.

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wait are you fucking kidding me

i blew my 1$ on the spiked koolaid because i overlooked

bulb's

post about it making you tipsy?

thats some bullshit

I missed it too

also, i think it was

dunn's

post that i skipped and i read something along the lines that

mastina

is BP?

can someone please clarify this?

The day market in the opening posts

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Why do you claim to have bought spiked kool-aid after having learned that it does nothing? Your points are now unaccountable, and you could grab something like the vig or ninja for nefarious purposes while pretending you wasted your points on spiked kool-aid, and there would be no way to prove it either way.

I think you'll notice a change in the votecount immediately after I said that I was going to purchase it. I will not discuss this further today.

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1.02 Votecount

mastina- 4 (Alisae, Lady Lambdadelta, Pine, MariaR)

L - 3

Pink Ball - 1 (Bulbazak)

L - 6

Bulbazak- 1 (Taly)

L - 6

Pine - 1 (mastina)

L - 6

Not Voting - 7 (The Rest of you fucks)

With

13

alive, it takes

7

to lynch.

At deadline,

Pink Ball

would be lynched.

Day One's deadline is Monday, April 27th, @ 10:00 PM EST: (expired on 2020-04-27 22:00:00).

chronic masturbaters
-mastina
-Bulbazak

feel my pain and toss me a drink

Buy the Kool-Aid. We can be tipsy together.

Okay

Votecount

mastina- 4 (Alisae, Lady Lambdadelta, Pine, MariaR)

L - 3

Alisae - 1 (Bulbazak)

L - 6

Bulbazak- 1 (Taly)

L - 6

Pine- 1 (mastina)

L-6

Not Voting - 6 (The Rest of you fucks)

With

13

alive, it takes

7

to lynch.

At deadline,

Pink Ball

would be lynched.

Day One's deadline is Monday, April 27th, @ 10:00 PM EST: (expired on 2020-04-27 22:00:00).

chronic masturbaters
-mastina
-Bulbazak

Am I missing something?

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Like - you're on me for not seeing stuff and yet you don't see obvious stuff when pointed out so...

even i can see it

So what is it?

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There's a mod error in 112 where there are 14 votes in play

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There’s a vote count number missing from the following vote count. Why didn’t you see that, Dunn?

Why does that matter?

???

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As far as I can tell, Ginngie was numbering the vote counts, then stopped, I don't see how that is significant or why I have to be intentionally dense to miss it

You said:

Why do you claim to have bought spiked kool-aid after having learned that it does nothing? Your points are now unaccountable, and you could grab something like the vig or ninja for nefarious purposes while pretending you wasted your points on spiked kool-aid, and there would be no way to prove it either way.

I think you'll notice a change in the votecount immediately after I said that I was going to purchase it. I will not discuss this further today.

As if you buying the spiked kool-aid caused ginngie to stop keeping track of the votecount number, or as if that is somehow significant to the game

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I'm not sure why you're getting upset at me.

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Dunn, why did you keep your presence in the neighborhood secret for so long?

Because:

-When a player dies from lynching, members of the same drug type will receive cash back.

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Technically I'm either a stimulant or a depressant, and our neighborhood has 2 different types of drugs, but yes, partially. Also, I wanted to see if anything interesting happened if I didn't make my presence known

Maria: kind of, I need to see what she ends up doing with her ability, right now she isn't doing a whole lot even after being made able to speak

Is there anyone who is masturbating who would normally be more paranoid?

I don't think so, except possibly Penguinpower

Ari focusing on only the third party and kind of lurking seems really scummy this game, though. Probably a better vote than PenguinPower in any case.

VOTE: Aristophanes

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first half of that is responding to 655

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Hey that's cool. By the way, a lot of people have been calling you scum, do you want to talk about that?

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I'm ok with you trying to lunch me but if you insist that it's a good idea for me to be bigger, I'm going to have to kill you.

Did anyone actually advocate this? Except, you know, in the neighborhood Enter theoretically doesn't have access to?

I mentioned that it happened.

Bulbazak- 4 (Alisae, MariaR, gobbledygook, Pine)

L - 3

Pine- 2 (xRECKONERx, Lady Lambdadelta)

L - 5

Dunnstral- 1 (PenguinPower)

L - 6

Aristophanes- 1 (Dunnstral)

L - 6

gobbledygook- 1 (Bulbazak)

L - 6

PenguinPower- 1 (Bingle)

L - 6

Not Voting - 3 (Taly, Pink Ball, Mr. Stophanes)

With

13

alive, it takes

7

to lynch.

I need to hear from all of PP/Dunn/Taly/PB/Stophanes about their current votes and where they'd be willing to compromise.

Bulb is excluded because he's talked about the enter/gobbles scumread, but I would be interested in hearing his thoughts on other peoples.

I'm not interested in voting for Enter/Gobble, not really interested in voting for reck or bulba either

I'm interested in voting for Ari and Penguin

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Your hunch could potentially end the game vs his hunch that is being prudent.

Also you picked the one non masturbator who is being wagoned so it's survivalistic and you're justifying your vote to appeal the masses

I have role information that it will not end the game.

Yikes Enter certainly didn't act like it though.

Anyway, I'm fine with helping Reck now, after mulling it over. Probably on day 2 instead of day 1

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Dunn: I was obviously lying about having role information that it wouldn’t end game.

Don't do that

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Yeah I don’t care.

VOTE: Gobbledygook

Don't do that either

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Dunn let's give mafiascum's lore something to talk about and vote with me

I don't actually agree with your vote

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Post a chill song for me to smoke too. Any player that posts a song by the end of 4/22/20 will earn $1.

The challenge lasts from 4/20/20 to 4/22/20 because 4/22 is 4/20 too.

VOTE:

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Because 5 days ago I didn't notice that Ginngie changed the formatting in the votecount from 1.02 to 1

[Dunnstral]

I don't think so, except possibly Penguinpower

wut? Why would I be paranoid contrary to everyone else?

I don't know if you would

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Enter - Didn't like his interactions with Gamma. Didn't like his interactions with Taly. Didn't like his shade. Didn't like his Bulb push. Enter here just seems like he's not interested in anything that isn't his Bulb narrative and I'm getting the sense he wants to cut anything else off at the knees.

This, your masturbating immediately after joining the game while demonstrably knowing the theoretical town value in dictating a masturbation order to "test things" when I expect town you would have just asked the mod instead of acting in a way that explains away why you're suddenly not a viable investigation target, your refusal to engage meaningfully with the fact that half measures on masturbation were bad, your refusal to engage meaningfully with the point that utilizing dunn's role tomorrow is actually better, excessive ATE instead of solveyness, and a complete dismissal of the argument that with as much traction against the masturbation trigger as there was pushing for it D1 was a distraction and a waste of time.

1. I apologize for masturbating immediately and I do realize its antitown side effects. At the time, I thought it was better that I did that. However, upon reflection, I think I objectively misplayed that. However, I still stand by the fact that it is a better idea to use Reck's wincon as an investigation Day 1 rather than later. I do appreciate that you are at least beyond the "fear mongering" that Reck's ability could lose us the game. More on this below.

2. See comment above. I do think that I

shouldn't

have been classified as masturbating considering how different my masturbation activation from the others, but I do agree it was reckless and a misplay.

3. I am not sure I understand what you mean by half measures on masturbation? I think it is related to the above points, but I would need clarification for futher comment on my end.

4. I disagree with this. Day 1 we get a conftown or a scum. This helps going into night so that night actions are better optimized. Jailkeepers/Doctors know who to protect. Investigations know not to target that person. It also helps us make better informed purchases. While it is true that when you get a smalller pool a conftown IS stronger it comes at the cost of less efficient night actions or purchases. At what point do you suggest we should use Reckoner's wincon as an investigation? Is this something that you just want floating around as a potential gotcha for scum? I standby that has diminishing returns over using on Day 1. I don't know if you are familiar with the term snowball, but I think having a stronger Day 1 is good to snowball the town to a victory. It makes it easier for the town to win later.

5. I think I have been solving. I have been doing AtE, but that is a personal fault of mine. I hate it when people illogically scumread me. I absolutely hate being scumread Day 1 because it runs contrary to everything I try to do as town which is lay low, ask questions that tie people to certain opinions, and then use those opinions later in the game to analyze contradictions in play when viewed in light of those opinions. I do not like getting into it with people. I like pulling at the loose threads and seeing where that goes.

6. I disagree with this point for multiple reasons. As I said, multiple others have acknowledged the benefit using Reck's wincon ability today. Just because it is the one that is slightly more favored and

your

personal opinion does not mean it is the

right

opinion or the way we

should

go. I think that is a little egotistical on your part, which is not something I would have said about you ever.

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I think that the people who are currently unmasturbated are probably more likely to be town than scum. However, there are some in there that I think have the potential to be scum. The fact that all of the currently unmasturbated people are people others have difficulty reading or have legendary scum games is a perfect opportunity to check them.

For the record, I think that scum have probably already gotten "in" on the ability to avoid being detected as scum by it. The most likely person that I think this applies to is Ari.

Ari looks like the type of scum player who has not played scum in a while and is uncomfortable in playing it so they are playing people and not the game. Look at Ari's iso. It does not look like Ari is scumhunting at this point in the game which is DIFFERENT to how he approached the Team Mafia Game where he very early on was scumhunting. I get you want to keep him around for his ability, but make use of it today and then let's lynch him.

I also think it is interesting that MariaR didn't have time to do anything recently other than sneak in get some free money with her music recommendation. But given how hard it was to lynch MariaR in both Furret v2 and TvA I am going to save my breath if that is scum and just ask that someone be intelligent and use their investigation on her. Her comments towards Alisae at least look like scumhunting though.

Looking at Pine's vote on me, it looks eerily similar to his play in Furret v2 where he did not really comment on things and did not scumhunt. That said I am also concerned about PenguinPower because he seems less happy go lucky and from my couple of games with PP!scum I think he is less happy go lucky as scum. Moreover, I would have fully expected PP to be on my wagon or any other larger wagon at this point in this game because he likes bandwagoning. Him sitting on Dunnstral for reasons I do not understand raise a lot of eyebrows to me.

Pink Ball ALSO looks different than Furret v2, but I can't tell if it is because I broke him that game or not. That said I do see some semblance of scumhunting in his iso so he isn't someone I want to pursue currently.

My town pool is {Bingle, Dunnstral, Reckoner, Lady Lambdadelta, Bulbazak, me}. I think Taly is probably town based off scumhunting, but I am not familiar enough with Taly to put him in the town core. If I can use the investigation to further narrow down my PoE I think we have a very real possibility of doing significant damage to the scumteam.

I like this post

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Dunnstral, pls pleasure yourself

Who is left and what is the order?

I am probably on board for this

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If we're doing something with Reck we need to either do it today (irl today), or next game day - 3 days remaining on deadline, we need to figure out who to lynch too

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Who does that leave?

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I masturbate

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Who we lynching

Aristophanes

[Dunnstral]

Ari is still not town in any capacity and we can safely lynch him today

Don't believe every Nigerian prince that needs your money

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Your drug type would have to be someone in the neighborhood, but it's split between two drug types