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[Espeonage]

Hello everyone.

I would like to announce that I believe I am the best choice for Student Council President. I pledge to ensure that I will make sure there is no frivolous and wanton spending of important school funds. This includes making sure that everyone is taking part in important and enjoyable extra-curricular activities. It is important to me that I am able to provide everyone with the chance to flourish, to learn, and to have fun. Responsibly.

It is the horse that is in the race that wins, so I have put myself in the race. I encourage you to vote with your heads not your hearts as I have a strong track record as treasurer at one of the most prestigious high schools in the area.

I also want to provide EVERY student the ability to thrive despite where they come from or their past.

Thank you.

[Espeonage]

Real talk though, the president gets to hand pick a hood. Bitmap might have cliques and be able to soul read some of the playlist but I don't think they need a hood to do that.

I think I have the ability to read strongly in a hood setting and hopefully set up a pseudo masonry. I am also extremely hard to pocket, which I think is probably the strongest difference between me and Bitty. No offence.

[Espeonage]

I also want to provide EVERY student the ability to thrive despite where they come from or their past.

@Eragon

[Espeonage]

I'd also say hold off on voting as well.

Want to have some frame of reference for picking my Student Council.

[Espeonage]

Idk.

[Espeonage]

All I have is that it happens during the day.

[Espeonage]

I just kinda assumed it happens whenever there is a majority. But I don't actually know.

[Espeonage]

If there is a majority for the student council election before there is a majority for the day's Lynch does the hood happen straight away and is it locked in or still changable?

Does the Student Council have day talk?

If the answer is the election happens whenever that hits majority first and there is day talk, I think it's likely better to do that first as I feel like whoever wins it out of me and bitty likely gets a target on their back.

[Espeonage]

And then we can make use of it for day 1.

[Espeonage]

Aww dang

[Espeonage]

Well then, guess we play normally.

Vote: Norway

You scum slipped.

[Espeonage]

Cute

[Espeonage]

But trash

[Espeonage]

Look, I am just staying true to the game.

[Espeonage]

How is everyone not stupid excited for this game? I have been checking the thread every half hour to see how close it was getting.

[Espeonage]

Look, I am just staying true to the game.

I might just need to show you the true power of explosion magic, and that's something only I would want to see.

Maybe in your world that works. But I have never seen magic.

[Espeonage]

So post game are we all jumping on a discord and watching all the source materials?

Because I think my waifu is from a criminally underwatched anime.

[Espeonage]

Been there done that lol. It took me literal years to get up to date and now I am like two arcs behind again.

Real talk though I put my waifu's name in to giphy and not a single gif of her comes up. :'(

[Espeonage]

I am gonna have a fun time with autocorrect.

My waif is apparently a satsuma.

[Espeonage]

Have you read the manga or watched it before?

[Espeonage]

Well there's some draggy bits but there are also some insane spots. I bawled my eyes out once as well.

[Espeonage]

Episode 312 is the one that made me cry. Something to look forward to. Everything picks up about episode 229.

[Espeonage]

Omfg I just looked I am 175 episodes behind. -.-

[Espeonage]

Oh yeah does anyone know what the tiers mean?

[Espeonage]

Back to the game lol.

[Espeonage]

Fair enough.

[Espeonage]

I didn't follow my golden u-pick rule and I'm regretting it.

[Espeonage]

I usually submit a pick designed specifically to make me one of the four roles I always want to get. Treestump/IC/FN/Mason

[Espeonage]

I fucked up.

Should have sent in a ghost or a zombie. Tried to go for a tree stump. IC would have been too hard to target in a waifu game.

But idiot me sent in three girls I actually like.

[Espeonage]

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[Espeonage]

I usually submit a pick designed specifically to make me one of the four roles I always want to get. Treestump/IC/FN/Mason

I mean we can still be masons :^)

I fucked up.

Should have sent in a ghost or a zombie. Tried to go for a tree stump. IC would have been too hard to target in a waifu game.

But idiot me sent in three girls I actually like.

good for you

It's tempting haha.

[Espeonage]

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While I am sharing games, I present this game as evidence for why I would make the best student council president.

[Espeonage]

Aww fuck, just realised I missed the perfect opportunity to expose people to terrible terrible things.

[Espeonage]

I messed up my picks so bad.

[Espeonage]

I want gifs of my waifu.

[Espeonage]

Give me a hood and I can do it there?

[Espeonage]

Winner gets to pick a three person hood. Flavour is that it is a student council. That's the long and short of it.

[Espeonage]

Is it fair for me to assume that Bitmap and Espeonage can't be scum together because of this mechanic?

-Y

I am mechanically soft town reading bitty bc I think it is fundamentally unfair if one of us is scum bc the voting is anonymous. But then the other hand is why is the voting anonymous if not to protect scum buddies.

It's wifom but I think that's a fair conclusion.

[Espeonage]

Is it fair for me to assume that Bitmap and Espeonage can't be scum together because of this mechanic?

-Y

Im not entirely sure but I believe this game is probably small-town meaning flavor and abilities are created before alignment rands.

But 'tis a good point

I 'think' usually upicks are done alignments first, but I have seen both ways.

[Espeonage]

Wha-!

[Espeonage]

I sent in three, but I ordered them.

[Espeonage]

I am sorry to have broken expectations but Ichigo was number 2.

[Espeonage]

Here Brian:

[Espeonage]

Since the fuck when has Nekopara been an anime. Just saw it on my newsfeed. wtf. You mean I could have been submitting them?

[Espeonage]

Oh right, this is supposed to be a game of mafia. So right now i've got some light scumpings on Espeonage and Amrun. Tentative townread on Bitmap and Eragon.

Why do you have light scum pings on Esp and Amrum?

Amrun popping in just to immediately claim he has a low tier waifu gave me a bad taste in the mouth.
Espeonage i might just be a bit salty from the way he scumread me as a scum player in a earlier game we played. Also i'm wondering if one of the two student council president nominees might be scum, and his entry seemed way too POLITICAL. While yours was more natural and human. So that's why i'm wary of him.

My entrance was in character. I even wound it back a bit.

[Espeonage]

Esp, what did you think of my speech? I was trying to be very in character.

I liked your speech btw and have no problems if you won the nomination for president. It'll mean I just got screwed over in 2016 and now 2020.

Yeah look there's worse players to have it. But I think you know how strongly I rate myself. You speech was fine. Idk who you are tho.

I've been considering the idea that we could hood each other.

Farks reasoning for picking you bc they know you is exactly what I think is most dangerous.

[Espeonage]

I have a soft town read on cloud. Hard town read on xtoxm, with the caveat that disloyal is a strong modifier to protect that kind of pr in mass claim.

[Espeonage]

These neighborhoods are totally going to be based on earlier friendships and elitism. Who decided we had to elect one of these specific two politicians anyway. The system is RIGGED.

Well yeah, but look who got the slots. Bitty knows everyone. I'm elitist and tryhard. That's what you get.

[Espeonage]

How are people reconciling cloud providing insight in to their deep wolf game willingly with them being scum here. Bc that seems like a hella alpha move and way cocky.

[Espeonage]

It means it's a town specific role. Don't rolefish.

[Espeonage]

Can i reiterate how much Espeonage irritates me. Don’t vote him for council president, please.

Ok, but also, if you are town we have to work together at some point.

[Espeonage]

@bitty: I don't actually watch a lot of anime. So chances are I haven't seen anyone's source material. I'm a fake weeb.

[Espeonage]

Sure, i still think you have town potency Espeonage. My annoyance is based on a completely personal level. We can still solve and co-operate in a business-like manner.

Cool, that's what I like.

I am definitely polarising. So I am sorry in advance if I frustrate you. I will say that in our last game together, it was a filler game for me that I have no investment in and I pretty much missed half the game so I didn't have time to posture myself properly as scum. Which is why I just went hard on you. This game I am excited for though so expect a much more switched on Espe. My motivation is tied to how keen I am for the game rather than my alignment.

[Espeonage]

anyways the only nerd rage "waifu" is sakura from naruto or Rachel from tower of god. And one is alot more common then the other

I have literally not seen a single episode of either.

[Espeonage]

Norway, my argument was that people generally wouldn't willingly go "hey look how great I was deep wolfing this game recently" unless they are town.

[Espeonage]

anyways the only nerd rage "waifu" is sakura from naruto or Rachel from tower of god. And one is alot more common then the other

I have literally not seen a single episode of either.

If it makes you feel any better. Me neither. I'm not a fake weeb though, it's just that i've usually avoided most mainstream anime in favor of obscure ones.

idek what constitutes obscure. I really need someone to just suggest me things to watch.

If anyone is up for it, my favourite two anime were Claymore for something action-y, and Love, Elections, and Chocolate for something slice of life-y. Tend to prefer slice of life tho.

[Espeonage]

Norway, my argument was that people generally wouldn't willingly go "hey look how great I was deep wolfing this game recently" unless they are town.

Maybe in general you'd be right. But he seems like the type of player that would want to share his achievements at any point in time really.

Fair enough. It's early days tho.

[Espeonage]

Actually I do have a waifu that shits me. Zero Two is the worst character in an average anime.

[Espeonage]

Norway, my argument was that people generally wouldn't willingly go "hey look how great I was deep wolfing this game recently" unless they are town.

I would think you are wrong, that kind of thing is exactly what a deepwolf would do. Deepwolfing is all about twisting your meta, fakeclaiming, etc - it's the pure art of lying with words and actions.

And there's the epeen factor too, which is also part of being a deepwolf tbh. This does not imply a higher scum equity, it just isn't a valid reason to lower it either

Ooooo You are not going to like me at all.

[Espeonage]

Also unrelated note, I just asked and I'm allowed to list off my waifu choices that weren't initially accepted or that I changed my mind on:

-RadiantCowbells
-Evenstar

Best waifus imo.

I can be your new raybells.

[Espeonage]

Yeah small town is a style where the game is balanced in a way that the powers are all relatively equal so it's less swingy. At least with uPick. We have no info if it is one way or another, so I am pretty keen to go you can read in to me and bitty.

I am town reading bitty on some things I probably can't go in to but tonally I like bitty's approach to limelight right now.

[Espeonage]

I regularly manipulate my meta, lie, and am elitist as both alignments. I've been known to fake claim from time to time. But like claiming neighbour when mason not claiming a guilty on someone or dumb shit like that.

PEDIT: @Fark

[Espeonage]

@Esp:

Esp, what did you think of my speech? I was trying to be very in character.

I liked your speech btw and have no problems if you won the nomination for president. It'll mean I just got screwed over in 2016 and now 2020.

Yeah look there's worse players to have it. But I think you know how strongly I rate myself. You speech was fine. Idk who you are tho.

I've been considering the idea that we could hood each other.

Farks reasoning for picking you bc they know you is exactly what I think is most dangerous.

I thought I was pretty obvious who I was based off my speech but it's more of an American thing then.

I'm actually up for the idea that regardless of the winner, we can mutually agree to hood each other and the winner can pick the third slot. Let me know if you're okay with this so we don't have to spend time bothering with student council president votes arguing and can focus on the game itself.

Farkran is picking me not just because he knows me but because I spearheaded a super town block of me and 2 other people in a hood and pretty much had a solid town block with huge solve potential.

Do you want to just hood each other regardless of winner?

I am like 80% in favour of it atm.

[Espeonage]

I'm still curious why Espeonage and Bitmap are the players randomly selected for this election though. Was it the mod handpicking them, or was it one town randomly picked and one scum modifier?
It seems likely to me it would be either T/T or T/S.

It fits my waifu perfectly.

[Espeonage]

@Esp:

Esp, what did you think of my speech? I was trying to be very in character.

I liked your speech btw and have no problems if you won the nomination for president. It'll mean I just got screwed over in 2016 and now 2020.

Yeah look there's worse players to have it. But I think you know how strongly I rate myself. You speech was fine. Idk who you are tho.

I've been considering the idea that we could hood each other.

Farks reasoning for picking you bc they know you is exactly what I think is most dangerous.

I thought I was pretty obvious who I was based off my speech but it's more of an American thing then.

I'm actually up for the idea that regardless of the winner, we can mutually agree to hood each other and the winner can pick the third slot. Let me know if you're okay with this so we don't have to spend time bothering with student council president votes arguing and can focus on the game itself.

Farkran is picking me not just because he knows me but because I spearheaded a super town block of me and 2 other people in a hood and pretty much had a solid town block with huge solve potential.

Do you want to just hood each other regardless of winner?

wut no plz, hood era and I

I beggeth

I super beggeth

The thing is the whole student council president debate is just noise and I don't see the point of Esp and I continually arguing who should be president as something beneficial to town. It'd probably benefit scum more to create more noise with the elections.

That's fair. I feel like it has been more helpful than an RVS tho.

[Espeonage]

I'm not against claiming my waifu. Satsuki Shinonome.

[Espeonage]

My waifu is Bernie Sanders.

What the actual fuck

[Espeonage]

A common question people ask me in mafiascum, life, and just everywhere is "Bitmap why are you like this?".

Hey bitty, how do you feel about farky?

[Espeonage]

Me and bitty would need to both be on it. So unless you want to argue we are both scum, I think you gotta accept we're in an election.

[Espeonage]

Unvote, Vote: Eragon

[Espeonage]

Haha shadow is currently my top pick for hooding.

[Espeonage]

Seems like a backward justification of a sheep on Eragon.

Well that's what you asked us for, so...

-Y

No, I didn’t ask you to make a poor vote and then half ass a reason to sheep.

Sheeping is fine, or can be. I don’t like how you went about it.

Bitmap’s similar vote didn’t bother me - it’s all in the execution.

Amrun, you got Confbias or something here bc their vote was better than bitty's.

[Espeonage]

Are we ready to play some mafia? Yee haw!
-Time

who knew scum!krazy would be such an easy fucking catch
VOTE: Yumeko and Kirari

I would argue this is when rvs STARTED. It's after that point.

I'd rather not deal with sorting the slot bc I already have four null-scum reads which is far too many.

[Espeonage]

I feel like there is an element of this playerlist that we have a lot of people that follow town leaders?

I mean like even Bitty follows RC instinctually. There's a clique but they haven't really been playing much yet. Just mentally I think there is going to be a lot of empty wagoning in the game as a whole. I feel you are being a little choosy, but eh, there's jack shit to go on at the moment.

[Espeonage]

Not exactly. I picked a girl weebs rage over. I actually quite like her myself, in certain ways, and enjoy trolling about her.

Somewhere in my pm, the phrase “worst girl” appears. That’s all I have to say.

Chitoge?

The thing is the whole student council president debate is just noise and I don't see the point of Esp and I continually arguing who should be president as something beneficial to town. It'd probably benefit scum more to create more noise with the elections.

So you don't care if we vote for Espeonage then?

-Y

WHEN ARE YOUR CONTRIBUTIONS NOT GOING TO SUCK

Pot, time to meet kettle.

[Espeonage]

I do like 378 tho.

Unvote, Vote: Norway

[Espeonage]

Who is even in these hydras? I am notoriously bad at reading hydras.

[Espeonage]

They theory. Why didn't Adorable OMGUS Brian if they thought it was a naked serious vote with no real reasoning.

Does it mean Adorable is scared?

Like the closest thing to analysis is a soft omegas without a vote.

Vote: Adorable

Lets get a decent wagon going. We need some flux.

[Espeonage]

Is this where I say "Time is a harsh mistress" and then get lynched for my pun?

[Espeonage]

Sorry for that YK. I 'didn't' break my elbow last year. Had a huge run around bc they thought I broke it inside the joint so I needed to do a bunch of test. Finally they went we have no idea how you have so much damage without breaking it. Was still in a sling for months and on pain meds. Not fun.

Hope you can recover ok.

[Espeonage]

How long since you last played scum?

@espeonage this was a serious question, i'm interested

I have a scum game that finished yesterday.

[Espeonage]

I believe RVS started here:

Well then, guess we play normally.

Vote: Norway

You scum slipped.

Correct me if i'm wrong Espeonage, but i interpreted this vote of yours as a joke referring to events in the last game we played. Is that a correct assumption to make?

Yeah ofc

[Espeonage]

P sure I have been scum in three games that have finished this year already.

[Espeonage]

They theory. Why didn't Adorable OMGUS Brian if they thought it was a naked serious vote with no real reasoning.

Does it mean Adorable is scared?

Like the closest thing to analysis is a soft omegas without a vote.

Adorable did actually OMGUS vote me.

right

[Espeonage]

Unvote

[Espeonage]

This is gonna look terrible for me if YandK flips scum. But I really don't see their vote as an issue.

Like, I spent a good half hour debating who to vote after Eragon bc Adorable felt too convenient while Norway is annoyed at me already and I didn't want to fan the flames, and I have an agenda to be town read with the election.

It may bc I lie more as town than as scum and care more about being town read as town than as scum, but I legit feel like the one liner added to the 'case' and was a fine vote, especially for the game state.

[Espeonage]

[deleted. Not a post for this game.] ~ t

[Espeonage]

Ah shit wrong tab.

[Espeonage]

Mod please delete that post.

[Espeonage]

Esp what's your read on Eragon now?

Also the drugs are really helping and I don't feel drowsy, I'm hoping this is gonna be more weeks to heal rather than months

-K

Town-ish

[Espeonage]

I like the response to the pressure, I felt like my issue was mainly with the context of posts like you. But I feel like the response felt ok and that they were making a concerted effort to play their way in the game. Like it's not inconceivable that they just enjoyed talking to me and didn't pick up that much on the points where I tried to bring it back to the game.

I think if you look at early posts vs later posts you can't scum read Eragon for it without also scum reading me for it.

[Espeonage]

This is gonna look terrible for me if YandK flips scum. But I really don't see their vote as an issue.

Like, I spent a good half hour debating who to vote after Eragon bc Adorable felt too convenient while Norway is annoyed at me already and I didn't want to fan the flames, and I have an agenda to be town read with the election.

It may bc I lie more as town than as scum and care more about being town read as town than as scum, but I legit feel like the one liner added to the 'case' and was a fine vote, especially for the game state.

It’s not about the vote. The one liner was fine (and accurate).

I don’t know how to say in many more creative ways that I don’t mind the vote.

That’s why I don’t scumread Bitmap for it. Starting a wagon just to start one is actually 100% fine for this gamestate. It’s not about the vote! It’s about me realizing that they’re appearance concerned.

Ok, but I did address that. I know I care much more about my appearance as town than as scum. Bc I know I can always cash in on free credit as scum by using theatre and aloofness and idgaf is usually towered by people.

I don't think caring about appearances is AI necessarily.

[Espeonage]

I'm actually not a huge fan of Shadow. He posts a lot but it's mostly just noise.

Espeonage, why was/is this slot your main candidate for neighboring?

Still feel good about the slot overall. There is an element of potentially trying to bend my hood partners to my will in a pseudo town bloc to alleviate any issues with potentially having scum in the hood.

My two trains of thought atm is either cloud/eragon or you/bitmap. One for bloc-ness and the other for mass game solve.

[Espeonage]

Hey Bitty. Going to take you up on your offer. How do you feel about us agreeing to us and Brian?

[Espeonage]

Possibly no meta?

[Espeonage]

Did you just give your scumread a townread based on the shouty reply?

I mean, it is bitty

[Espeonage]

Wondertime is ali?

Can we policy it?

[Espeonage]

I also don't think his claim is that townish to begin with since it seems like a way for scum to draw out visiting town roles

follow this logical train of thought for more than 2 seconds, schmuck
what happens when i cant prove the role exists?
as scum, i have precluded myself from endgaming, immediately at the start of d1
why do i do this as scum?

if the role ive claimed is real, and town aligned, hypothetically, then do you agree that it needs to be claimed to get any value out of it?
do you think pissing in the dark and hoping we hit each other is a better way to play my role?

Hi, can you play the game?

i am playing i just havent gone in depth in reads.
mechanics is also a big part of games and the part that interest me more actually
but fine if you really want reads

1. Bitmap - since the shouting match with ali i leaning village idiot more than scum
2. Farkran - i feel like everything hes offered is 'safe' and hes also someone im expecting to have a wide scumrange based on reputation i cant tr this yet
3. shadowlesscloud - i dont tr
4. Amrun - i dont tr, there was a post about "choo choo" for a wagon that i felt was pretty out of the place at the time and pinged me but eh.
5. Wondertime - seems pretty in line with town ali from what ive seen ARE YOU HAPPY NOW YOU MADE ME GIVE READS ENJOY THE +CHANCE OF EARLY NK
7. NorwegianboyEE - leaning town
8. Espeonage - decent start but he seems to have faded quite hard, which could be concerning
9. Eragon - feels pretty townie tbh, liked his back and forth with YK
10. Yumeko and Kirari - i dont know really but he claimed what sounds like the other part of my puzzle piece and i want to put them together and now that he clarified his role is a night action i kinda this this is town on setup spec but would def need to wait for massclaim to be confident to see how many slots my role actually has synergy with
11. Adorable - i like how she reacted to pressure and didnt think her first 5 posts that got her wagoned were sus in the first place, fairly solid town tbh
12. Brian Skies - honestly if hes gonna be ignoring mechanics then i think hes a liability so id be happy to lynch this
13. Shireen Baratheon - this is the true poe lynch, if people have too many townreads i am never the choice here

overall this game seems to have a bunch of high presence wordy people but im not ~feeling~ like this is a game being led by town, i think there 1-2 scum in the high presence crew that would be hard to catch, possibly with someone like shireen as a third

Quoted as note to self.

[Espeonage]

I've been lightly reading but I barely play on weekends.

[Espeonage]

"13. Shireen Baratheon - this is the true poe lynch, if people have too many townreads i am never the choice here"

Who reckons this is a slip and he forgot to edit his personal scumdoc?

[Espeonage]

Unvote, Vote: Xtoxm

[Espeonage]

"13. Shireen Baratheon - this is the true poe lynch, if people have too many townreads i am never the choice here"

Who reckons this is a slip and he forgot to edit his personal scumdoc?

Not me.

Explain?

Why is town talking about their ability to not be lynch based on someone being around?

Like what town says if people are townreading a lot, that means I am safe from being lynched. What town thinks like that?

The answer is town don't. But scum sure do.

[Espeonage]

Yeah another thing I want to point out thats good for Brian is he voted Yumeko.
If he was scum with Yumeko, he just hard pushes xtoxm right now.

Quotes for future reference

[Espeonage]

Will be doing a read through tomorrow, leave any prudent questions after this for me as I'll be reading recent things first.

I'm off to bed.