Not Known 15 wrote:Welcome to my Mini Theme.
Rules:
1.Follow the Site Rules. This includes not talking about ongoing games.
2.You may have access to private threads (e.g. Mafia factional chat); you can talk about this game there, but you may not quote anything from them outside of the PT. You may not quote any game-related PMs without express permission by your game mod.
3.Play to win this game.
4.Lurking: You will be prodded after 2 days of no substantial contribution(no prod dodging). After 24 hours of an unanswered prod I will search for a replacement(unless V/LA). Four prods in total, or two prods in one day will result in an instant replacement. ASK FOR REPLACEMENT IN A PM.
5.Vacation/Limited Access: Tell me when you are going to have limited access. If you have limited access, you will still count as having a prod after 3 days, and you will be instantly replaced after 5 days in total.
6.Weekend: For the purposes of prods and nights, Sunday and Saturday count as 12 hours each.
7.CHEATING:Cheating(breaking site rules, posting while dead, quoting Role PM's without explicit permission, encrypting posts without explicit permission, editing/deleting posts without explicit permission) is forbidden. Don't do it.
Setup information:
8.Maximum length of day phases:7 days
9.Maximum length of nights: 2 days
10. Lynching:After 24 hours or more of the current day have passed everyone who has more than 50% of votes against them will get lynched. If the day ends without a majority lynch and at least two votes are currently on at least one person, then the person with the most votes - ties being resolved randomly - will be lynched. Otherwise, at the end of the day a random townie gets lynched. LINK TO CLARIFICATION POST
11:Hammer:As soon as the required number of people for a Lynch is reached, the game descends into Twilight.
12:Twilight:Alive people, including the hammered lynch target, may continue to post until the flip.
13:Flip: After the flip, if there is no one to replace, the game descends into Night.
If there is a replacement, the game will be locked(do not post). The game descends into Night after the lynch.
14:Daychat: Every evil faction has daychat.
15:Natural Action Resolution applies. Same priority cycles are resolved by making all actions of the same priority fail(e.g.Roleblocker vs Roleblocker, only both roleblocks fail).
16:Color and Vanilla Role PM:
This is my ordinary mod color: #BF8080 . Do not use it.
This is the Text of Truth color: #0000FF . Do not use it.
Anything written in the Text of Truth color is guranteed to be correct unless I make a mistake(mod error)
17:Breaking rules can result in any kind of punishment. Do not break the rules.
18:I may add additional rules at my discretion. I will tell everyone via PM if this happens.
19:Backup Mod:popsofctown.
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In post 141, Vorkuta wrote:In post 140, cyrus62 wrote:but a no lynch results@mod- can you confirm that VOTE: No Lynch is not-kosher?
(Obligatory back to VOTE: Korina)The rules post does not contain a rule enabling No Lynch.-
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In post 470, Iconeum wrote:
the way i read this is simple: a majority vote to lynch can only be done after at least 24 hours. Once after that period, you have the majority votes on you you are lynched (just like in any other game).In post 465, cyrus62 wrote:
seee icon my isuseIn post 0, Not Known 15 wrote:10. Lynching:After 24 hours or more of the current day have passed everyone who has more than 50% of votes against them will get lynched. If the day ends without a majority lynch and at least two votes are currently on at least one person, then the person with the most votes - ties being resolved randomly - will be lynched. Otherwise, at the end of the day a random townie gets lynched.
HOWEVER, if no majority vote at end of day, the person with the most votes is lynched and ties are randomly solved.
In an extreme case where there's like almost no votes, a random town gets lynched.
So it's not REALLY that different from regular lynching.Clarification:
A majority vote is indeed enabled after 24 hours have passed each day.
If there is no majority vote until the scheduled end of the day, either:
-at least one person has two or more votes on them, then the person with the most votes gets lynched. If more than one person got the most votes then that tie between the people who have the highest number of votes is resolved randomly.
-no person has more than one vote on them, then a random townie is lynched, if possible.-
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In post 991, Chickadee wrote:I feel like I've been missing something for quite some time. Where did people find that at least 50% of roles will be bastard roles?The information that these people are talking about can be found here, in the info about the game that you should have read before you signed up...
That information is true. At least 50% of all players got a bastard role.-
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Chickadee has been lynched.Role PM:Spoiler:
A win condition has been achieved.
The mafia has gained control of 50% of all votes.
Endgame reached.
Shos, Secret Death Miller(Cult) , has been endgamed.
Cyrus, Secret Death Miller(Day:Mafia Goon, Night:Vanilla Townie) has been endgamed.
GAME ENDS; MAFIA WINS, CULT LOSES, TOWN LOSES.
The lone converted cultist, Chickadee, failed to survive to endgame and loses(their only applicable win condition(and a secret win condition))
Vorkuta, Mafia Goon, and Kelly Chen, Secret Death Godfather(Vanilla Townie), survive and win.
nomnomnom, Chemist and PMysterious were Secret Death Millers(Day:Mafia Goon, Night:Vanilla Townie), aligned with the town, and lose.
Iconeum and Doctor Drew were Death Masons, but the rest of their flips was correct. They lose.
The medium only recieved nightmares and good dreams, and only if a majority of dead people would have ever voted for a combination via PM which... never happened.(Yes, you all didn't read precisely, did you? It says "if the majorityagrees" right there.
The flips of Baezu and RCEnigma were correct, they were the only true Vanilla Townies.
Korina cheated and broke the site's game rules about not communicating outside the game(they communicated via changing their location in their profile).
Oh, and they lost - obviously.
Their original role was this:
Needless to say, it was an uphill battle for town when their only strong power role who wasn't supposed to be removable got themselves modkilled - with consent of the list mods of course - and it broke part of the game because the dead were no longer able to influence the game until the end of the game, which they otherwise would have.
I am also sorry for the error in judgement I made - I should have planned to tell you that there's dead interaction from the beginning. Not that it influenced the game this much....
And... if you play a bastard game, or indeed, any game that isn't a normal game read things, especially mod PM's and the rules... carefully. Otherwise... you might miss something!Last edited by Not Known 15 on Fri Nov 15, 2019 4:38 am, edited 2 times in total.-
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Well it says "SECRET Death Godfather"In post 1779, Kelly Chen wrote:Was I supposed to know anything about being a godfather? Vork and I were not sure how we would flip if lynched.-
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The Cult could only recruit death millers, and the death miller(cult) only if that one was the only applicable one.
And the Cultifier WOULD if possible, recruit every night until game end(or running out of death millers), actively targeting only recruitables, so it was right to lynch them.
So yes, Chickadee was one of the five original death millers(NK:VT lynch:Mafia Goon)
The obvious bastard roles were the six death millers(one for Cult, 5 for Mafia, but only at day) and the Cultifier.Last edited by Not Known 15 on Fri Nov 15, 2019 4:39 am, edited 2 times in total.-
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and probably... korina. Well, I am mad about that, at least. That clear-cut chase of cheating by korina - as the most powerful role of the entire game, aligned with the town, supposed to be able to influence the game until the end... - obviously distorted the game.In post 1784, Kelly Chen wrote:I have long foreseen town/cult were going to be really mad about this game-
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which would have left you with a very slightly townsided setup, probably.In post 1787, Kelly Chen wrote:The bad thing here is that if Drew's optimal play is supposed to be to get lynched then, jester concerns aside, one should not expect any cult to be recruited in this setup.
After all, the power of the Medium was limited to be known by the dead as Town(so the Medium claim was confirmed town for them), and to recieve thoughts o f the dead about alignment.-
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korina.In post 1789, Doctor Drew wrote:So what was the point of the dead Mason PT?
You were confirmed to korina as town. You were able to assist the Delegate of the Dead(here:korina) as confirmed town. The Delegate of the Dead who was supposed to have one vote from the grave, one time per day, until the end of the game.
.... MODKILL....
but that didn't happen.
You were a Death Mason because, of course, you had to lynch yourself at some point(and the pt had knowledge about you being bad for town), so as compensation, you were supposed to be able to influence the dead vote of the delegate greatly
....MODKILL....
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Sorry. You were one of the death millers(nightkill flip:VT, lynch flip: MGoon)In post 1791, Chemist1422 wrote:meanwhile I don’t even get told what my role was-
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In post 1806, Korina wrote:Ok, NK15, no offense to you, but that role fucking sucked. Like, there is no way that role is remotely fun.In post 1807, Korina wrote:Literally I'm a restless spirit that can vote once per day, with the option of confirming myself as a town voter?
Well, you could have talked with the other people as soon as there were dead people. You could have had lots of influence.. especially at the end of the game.In post 1808, Korina wrote:That's a fucking bullshit role. That isn't bastard by any meaning of the word. It's simply unfun.
It's just that this role didn't suit YOU and your playstyle. Sometimes you get RNG'd a role you don't like. This happens. And when it happens....
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Stop making it worse. Your modkill was explicitely agreed to by the list mods. Stop calling cheating something acceptable.In post 1811, Korina wrote:Do I regret doing what I did to get myself modkilled? Kinda, but not really. Looking at it with the entire setup in mind, I do because it costed town the game, but from the information I had at the time of the modkill? No. Not at all. I put ?? as my location when I think Vork brought up to look at my profile. I figured at that point, it wouldn't really hurt that much because it was pretty much established that I was the ?? voter. What does the game get from seeing that confirmed? That I'm town, and I'm the ?? voter, which they pretty much already had figured out.
On top of that, I literally couldn't replace out of the slot. While I could, it'd be a huge dick move to whoever takes the slot. I don't wanna do that, so I have to play with that bullshit role. And, don't get me wrong here, behind-the-scene roles are fun as hell to play, but only if executed correctly. This is an example of one that isn't executed correctly. If I had more abilities, more shots per day, or even been alive at the start but later committed suicide or something, that'd be different. It'd still be a bullshit role, and probably closer to the realm of bastard, but it'd certainly be more bearable and more fun to play.
Well, I normally don't design roles I wouldn't want to play and this role is NOT one of the exceptions.-
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I'd find that role fun to play... just saying. Are you someone who likes to make lots of posts?In post 1815, Korina wrote:I'm not calling it acceptable. I'm saying my thought process about it. I know what I did was wrong. We can agree on that point. But I don't regret my actions. That doesn't mean I see it as acceptable. And also, when I design roles, I try to see if it'd be fun to actually play. If it's arguably not fun to play, (like my role), then I try to change it to make it fun, or remove it.-
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Yeah, that role is definitely more suited for those who post less. It's basically a role that allows you to post an anonymous vote once per day only, but with confirmability... influencing the game by few, but potentially very powerful actions, especially at the end of the game when that vote decides the lynch.In post 1818, Korina wrote:Yes, I do. I tend to be one of the top posters in the game.-
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-Initial confusion. The flips showed your real wincon btw.In post 1844, Vorkuta wrote:@modperson
-Is there a particular reason you wouldnt share our wincon with us?
-I couldn't find drew's recruitment criteria? Random? Any restrictions?
-they were picking a death miller that 1. wasn't dead 2. wasn't about to be dead(target of the nightkill) 3.wasn't the cult-flipping death miller if another one was recruitable 4.was randomized amongst all remaining applicable death millers.-
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"You had a nightmare about Vorkuta"In post 1846, Kelly Chen wrote:Did you prepare text for Iconeum dreams or would the text have come from the players sending them?
Was trying to think what would be the worst role-related danger of letting Iconeum live to the last day and NKing Shos/Cyrus instead. It seems like there was no risk like that, except I'm not totally clear what's the maximum info Iconeum could have received that night.
"You had a pleasant dream about nomnomnom"
... nothing else.
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