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Post Post #76 (isolation #0) » Sun Oct 06, 2019 10:10 am

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In post 11, Wisdom wrote:We identify four townies and win. Townhunting is better than scumhunting and this playerlist is good for application
This is good. I like where this is going.

I think based on page 1 and 2 that chennis and Elements are probably town.

HEAL: chennis
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Post Post #82 (isolation #1) » Sun Oct 06, 2019 10:13 am

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In post 77, Wisdom wrote:I think youre echoing me.
I just like your thought process.
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Post Post #105 (isolation #2) » Sun Oct 06, 2019 10:46 am

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I agree Ginngie is bad.
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Post Post #106 (isolation #3) » Sun Oct 06, 2019 10:46 am

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inb4 Wisdom says I'm echoing him again
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Post Post #108 (isolation #4) » Sun Oct 06, 2019 10:47 am

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In post 102, Ginngie wrote:
Spoiler: @Nacho
In post 9, Oversoul wrote:Let’s not

HURT: Elements
In post 13, Oversoul wrote:
In post 11, Wisdom wrote:We identify four townies and win. Townhunting is better than scumhunting and this playerlist is good for application
But but fight song :(
In post 42, Oversoul wrote:
In post 33, Elements wrote:
In post 9, Oversoul wrote:Let’s not

HURT: Elements
Last game you entered with a heal not a hurt. Coincidence? I think not.
HURT: oversoul
Its almost as if there’s a reason for the difference.
In post 51, Oversoul wrote:HURT: Elements
HURT: Elements
HURT: Elements
In post 54, Oversoul wrote:
In post 47, Wisdom wrote:oversoul on the other hand looks scummy so far
mmmm no

I’m obvtown and this is a game I don’t even need to make myself obvtown in

yo, so first read through it looks fuckin weird to declare you're obvtown when you make the above posts as they're NAI.

So first question is your thoughts on souls boldness of claiming obvtown when doing nothing in particular to make it obv. It's small in significance but hilariously enough, that's almost exactly how I planned on entering the game saying lol cool i'm town and focus on sorting you and mastina. idk like a look in the mirror type feeling.

A more direct question is the (fuck whats the word we use) retaliation vote by Elements onto Souls and your thoughts in general of Elements starting game voting patterns.
Why are you addressing Nacho?
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Post Post #123 (isolation #5) » Sun Oct 06, 2019 12:03 pm

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We should spare today and see how things go and assess the route tomorrow maybe?
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Post Post #139 (isolation #6) » Sun Oct 06, 2019 12:18 pm

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In post 135, chennisden wrote:Nymph isnt a slot i particularly have a lean on
Generally I'm a very hard slot to read.
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Post Post #141 (isolation #7) » Sun Oct 06, 2019 12:22 pm

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So were those two posts you linked AI and if so how?
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Post Post #146 (isolation #8) » Sun Oct 06, 2019 1:23 pm

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Very spicy post. I like it.
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Post Post #155 (isolation #9) » Sun Oct 06, 2019 1:35 pm

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In post 148, Xayah wrote:
In post 76, Nymph wrote:
In post 11, Wisdom wrote:We identify four townies and win. Townhunting is better than scumhunting and this playerlist is good for application
This is good. I like where this is going.

I think based on page 1 and 2 that chennis and Elements are probably town.

HEAL: chennis
Did I miss the memmo? How are you people reading anything Chen/Ele said as...anything? I feel like when I read into anything Chen/Ele/Oversoul are saying in regards to each other it’s like a clique talking in girl talk about meta I have no idea about. So you guys having reads on them has me ???
It's a light read and might be a bit rushed but it's like a pre page 10 read as well.
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Post Post #182 (isolation #10) » Sun Oct 06, 2019 2:30 pm

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So I never played this mode before so can y'all decide how we approach this and let me know what we do mechanically?
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Post Post #225 (isolation #11) » Sun Oct 06, 2019 4:07 pm

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I'm not entirely sure what to think of Oversoul right now.
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Post Post #228 (isolation #12) » Sun Oct 06, 2019 4:08 pm

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In post 223, Rakan wrote:We're either fighting or sparing Oversoul today.
This is really bad. We're only at page 10 and you want to just focus one person because of a crumb?
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Post Post #232 (isolation #13) » Sun Oct 06, 2019 4:11 pm

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In post 229, chennisden wrote:
In post 226, Rakan wrote:I don't think it's worth discussing other reads before the mafia nightkill. Why do you think I should discuss other reads?

I'm willing to talk mechanics, why we should or shouldn't pick neutral.

As for Oversoul: He's either a pr and will die tonight if we don't spare him, or he's fake softing and should be killed for that
Because
a) I don't really think you're town
and b) obfuscating reads hurts town more than it hurts mafia
Why?
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Post Post #239 (isolation #14) » Sun Oct 06, 2019 4:16 pm

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Rakan is hot headed leaning town but should really stop tunneling.

It's bad to tunnel in League of Legends and it's also bad to tunnel in mafia.
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Post Post #241 (isolation #15) » Sun Oct 06, 2019 4:16 pm

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If Rakan was scum, he wouldn't stab himself in the foot this hard.
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Post Post #242 (isolation #16) » Sun Oct 06, 2019 4:18 pm

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I take back my chennis slight town lean.

HEAL: N/A
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Post Post #255 (isolation #17) » Sun Oct 06, 2019 6:43 pm

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HEAL: Rakan

I also think Rakan is town.
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Post Post #263 (isolation #18) » Sun Oct 06, 2019 7:04 pm

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Wisdom have similar reads as me. And I rolled town. So I think I'm going to town-lean him for now.
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Post Post #286 (isolation #19) » Tue Oct 08, 2019 4:12 am

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Rakan is probably more town than Wisdom.
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Post Post #292 (isolation #20) » Tue Oct 08, 2019 6:34 am

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In post 287, Ginngie wrote:
In post 226, Rakan wrote:I don't think it's worth discussing other reads before the mafia nightkill. Why do you think I should discuss other reads?
I'm thinking Rakan is better sorted town than not because of what
Nymph pointed out earlier about Rakan not shooting himself in the foot so hard as scum.

I'm not seeing scum blatantly telling people they're not gonna talk about reads.
In post 291, Ginngie wrote: Nymph posts nothing of value so far
Bro are you fucking serious right now?
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Post Post #293 (isolation #21) » Tue Oct 08, 2019 6:35 am

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Also if you're going to call Rakan pretty much town and sheep my read maybe you should heal him.
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Post Post #294 (isolation #22) » Tue Oct 08, 2019 6:40 am

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HURT: Ginngie
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Post Post #309 (isolation #23) » Tue Oct 08, 2019 8:14 am

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In post 295, Ginngie wrote:I apologize

Nymph posted one thing of value and did fuck all else
In post 299, Wisdom wrote:is nymph being bad on purpose because it's an alt gimmick or
hahahaha
In post 301, Ginngie wrote:Your read on Rakan is based on his push on OverSoul as demonstrated in the spoiler
Spoiler:
In post 228, Nymph wrote:
In post 223, Rakan wrote:We're either fighting or sparing Oversoul today.
This is really bad. We're only at page 10 and you want to just focus one person because of a crumb?
In post 239, Nymph wrote:Rakan is hot headed leaning town but should really stop tunneling.

It's bad to tunnel in League of Legends and it's also bad to tunnel in mafia.
In post 241, Nymph wrote:If Rakan was scum, he wouldn't stab himself in the foot this hard.


Now, when i read your post, I looked into what you said, and found post 226.
In post 226, Rakan wrote:I don't think it's worth discussing other reads before the mafia nightkill. Why do you think I should discuss other reads?
Which is completely different that discussing Rakan tunneling a player, as this is talking about not discussing ANY reads.

So when I made the post declaring my read of Rakan, it literally goes me saying my starting reference point(YOU), and then going on to discuss how I further developed my read(Rakan not discussing any reads).


What would also help is if you understood what I mean by 'value'. I'm looking for interactions that are more than a couple of sentences. I can't in good faith call you town cuz you made one post I liked. I enjoy reading into interactions, which hilariously enough, I get to do now.

Now, what I particularly like is the emotion you showed. You first read my post and then went hey buddy wtf. Then 5 minutes later you vote me. Now the tone and the vote tells me two things. One, that I pissed you off, and second, that I pissed you off enough for you to come back and naked vote. I'm hilariously toxic way back and used to get dumb angry. One horrible habit is that I'd scum read anyone that I disagreed with vehemently. Now looking at yours, it's like looking into the mirror and seeing the a little bit of anger come out in the form of a vote.
226 is kind of weird. I'm not sure what to think about it. Anyways, I tend to believe scum to keep a large portfolio of options as a means of an "out". Rakan clearly has not considered that most likely because he's town. When I play scum, I'm generally more agenda focused and tend to give myself many options in order to get out of a bad spot. I'm not a lengthy poster in general so one-liners and short responses are usually what you'll be getting from me.
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Post Post #327 (isolation #24) » Wed Oct 09, 2019 11:26 am

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In post 324, chennisden wrote:Okay that was a weird post chemist and i dont really like it
How was that weird?
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Post Post #386 (isolation #25) » Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:06 pm

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@mastina:
How is Rakan not town from his Oversoul interactions?
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Post Post #387 (isolation #26) » Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:08 pm

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I can see chennis being town. I have seen his scum game once and it was definitely more aggressive and less committal when he's doing reads.
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Post Post #424 (isolation #27) » Fri Oct 11, 2019 7:12 am

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In post 419, mastina wrote:
In post 386, Nymph wrote:
@mastina:
How is Rakan not town from his Oversoul interactions?
What's town about them? I saw hyper-aggression. If I knew who Rakan was maybe I'd be able to judge that hyper-aggression in the context of "oh for Rakan that's town" or "oh for Rakan that's scum" but lacking that knowledge all I can really say is that in isolation nothing about it was town. Would Rakan be my vote if I were interested in genocide/neutral? Oh heck no. (Okay, so I can't outright rule it out, but I can say that almost certainly? Probably not.) But while Rakan's not someone I'm interested in lynching, he's also not someone I see any reason to save, either.
I never played with you before but this doesn't sound like a genuine response from the whole Rakan situation considering you almost completely ignored it until I asked you about it.

HURT: mastina
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Post Post #455 (isolation #28) » Sun Oct 13, 2019 4:25 am

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Can we heal Rakan? He's like obvtown.
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Post Post #457 (isolation #29) » Sun Oct 13, 2019 4:35 am

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In post 456, chennisden wrote:
In post 437, chennisden wrote:also a lot of the content towards rakan feels very appeasy.
I wonder why i made this post
Who cares? He's clearly town and your self vote isn't doing much.
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Post Post #460 (isolation #30) » Sun Oct 13, 2019 9:07 am

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In post 459, chennisden wrote:
In post 457, Nymph wrote:
In post 456, chennisden wrote:
In post 437, chennisden wrote:also a lot of the content towards rakan feels very appeasy.
I wonder why i made this post
Who cares? He's clearly town and your self vote isn't doing much.
But you're scum so
But he's obvtown so who clearly a higher contender of being saved compared to you
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Post Post #461 (isolation #31) » Sun Oct 13, 2019 9:11 am

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I feel like chennis would heal the obvtown person as town instead of this loopy bullshit and emphasis on himself. He clearly did this in gay dance so I'm not inclined to give him the town pass.
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Post Post #462 (isolation #32) » Sun Oct 13, 2019 9:13 am

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HURT: chennis

Ginngie is probably town. I feel like scum!Ginngie would use my annoyance as a reason to try to lynch me.
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Post Post #465 (isolation #33) » Sun Oct 13, 2019 9:41 am

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In post 463, chennisden wrote:Ur ignoring valid concerns on Rakan

Ur also scum
Which were what again outside people (like you) discrediting the town-spew?
In post 464, chennisden wrote:Idc if rakan is town because even if ur town sparing rakan is prolly in scums gameplan
This is how scum!chennis would reply.
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Post Post #476 (isolation #34) » Sun Oct 13, 2019 1:21 pm

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Did chennis just scum slip?
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Post Post #498 (isolation #35) » Mon Oct 14, 2019 6:14 am

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Heal Rakan pls kthx. Or we can lynch chennis.
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Post Post #521 (isolation #36) » Mon Oct 14, 2019 4:30 pm

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In post 508, Nachomamma8 wrote: I do trust Wisdom.
Why?
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Post Post #522 (isolation #37) » Mon Oct 14, 2019 5:12 pm

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Nacho, I think your intentions are town worthy but the lack of hard direction you're giving us is lackluster and we only have 2 1/2 days left to decide our action.
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Post Post #525 (isolation #38) » Mon Oct 14, 2019 7:08 pm

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Why are we sparing the leaders? This game is already in a pretty bad state atm.
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Post Post #526 (isolation #39) » Mon Oct 14, 2019 7:12 pm

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In post 402, Nachomamma8 wrote:Do Maria-Rakan-Nymph all know each other/are their avatars themed or something?
I know them. They do not know me afaik.
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Post Post #527 (isolation #40) » Mon Oct 14, 2019 7:13 pm

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Rakan clearly isn't leadership material. Rakan is probably very likely town.
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Post Post #541 (isolation #41) » Tue Oct 15, 2019 8:08 am

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In post 538, chennisden wrote:
In post 532, Elements wrote:Did everyone decide this game had no rvs and not tell me?
why are people still tring this?
Stupidity is not AI.
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Post Post #569 (isolation #42) » Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:07 pm

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HURT: mastina

cool, we get to lynch one of my scum reads
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Post Post #598 (isolation #43) » Thu Oct 17, 2019 7:58 pm

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I'll join if I can't get my mastina lynch.
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Post Post #637 (isolation #44) » Fri Oct 18, 2019 6:42 am

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HEAL: Ginngie
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Post Post #644 (isolation #45) » Fri Oct 18, 2019 7:52 am

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I don't like Elements anymore.
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Post Post #647 (isolation #46) » Fri Oct 18, 2019 8:14 am

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I didn't roll scum unfortunately so I'm playing town objective.
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Post Post #669 (isolation #47) » Sat Oct 19, 2019 5:58 am

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Lets not spare Elements or Wisdom.
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Post Post #671 (isolation #48) » Sat Oct 19, 2019 6:01 am

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Good, I wasn't a fan of both of your exchanges.

Ginngie for sparing or mastina for killing please. Pick one.
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Post Post #672 (isolation #49) » Sat Oct 19, 2019 6:03 am

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mastina's AtE felt fake. Her post count is literally as much as our mod right now. It's something I'd pull off for ez town cred if I was scum.
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Post Post #674 (isolation #50) » Sat Oct 19, 2019 6:15 am

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In post 673, Wisdom wrote:mastina is mastina. She can be like that as town.

If we had to lynch, id go for nacho, xayah, or elements.

But we're sparing gingie.
This is my first time playing with mastina but she isn't being pro-town right now so I'm going based on a standard mold of how I expect town to play.

Why Nacho? Is it relating to BoP?
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Post Post #676 (isolation #51) » Sat Oct 19, 2019 6:19 am

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In post 675, Wisdom wrote:Town aren't always playing pro-town. If youre so shallow you will rarely catch scum.

Nacho is much better than this as town.
I have no experience with mastina so I'm using a standard mold. For future games, I'll have this to reference.

I've seen Nacho play before and I do agree it's much better than this. I'm definitely willing to give Nacho some time to ramp up fast.
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Post Post #677 (isolation #52) » Sat Oct 19, 2019 6:20 am

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chennis kill so weird honestly and it makes the mastina slot look so fucking bad.

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