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I'm down for that, but I'm more interested in the bastard mechanics in this game and whether anyone has any insight as to what those may be
but in the interests of game progression and the slot's overall scumminess and 'overly-dramatic response' to a bunch of RVS votes
VOTE: cyrus @L-2 I think"Vork are you really confused about editing your sig?" ~Formerfish-
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idk anything about scum!cyrus so your meta insight would be appreciatedIn post 47, nomnomnom wrote:I don't think this is scum!cyrus
IndeedIn post 49, gameplay506 wrote:Gotta go back and dig that game up"Vork are you really confused about editing your sig?" ~Formerfish-
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In post 75, RCEnigma wrote:Someone has an invisible vote or Korina is voting gameplay beyond the grave.
What the shit why did I miss thatIn post 71, Not Known 15 wrote:gameplay506 (1)??;
Can anyone here kindly tell us if this is a bastard mechanic that they're not sharing with us or not?"Vork are you really confused about editing your sig?" ~Formerfish-
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I'm asking politely either wayIn post 82, gameplay506 wrote:Not sure that whoever that vote belongs to is going to come forward and claim it
I also want to do the bare minimum of deduction and say it didn't come from the ~2 slots that didn't even post yetIn post 82, gameplay506 wrote:And even if someone claims it we can't really take his claim at face value
dafaq
is this a townie answer?In post 82, gameplay506 wrote:so best to leave it as it is and let it resolve by itself
do I buy this as a townie answer?
eh...."Vork are you really confused about editing your sig?" ~Formerfish-
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stop triggering meIn post 87, RCEnigma wrote:Vork I might vig you instead tbh."Vork are you really confused about editing your sig?" ~Formerfish-
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you don't pull stunts like this as townIn post 91, RCEnigma wrote:How so?
scum!vork would play around his former scum buddiesIn post 92, nomnomnom wrote:Somehow this feels like scum!vork.
town!vork won't give 2 shits
but feel free to elaborate as to how I'm doing exactly the same thing I've done in cats or whatever it is you have hidden with your "somehow"
come now- it's only called EXTREMELY bastardIn post 93, gameplay506 wrote:a little insane :@"Vork are you really confused about editing your sig?" ~Formerfish-
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-4 pages inIn post 98, RCEnigma wrote:How is calling a vig shot outside of my townrange?
-without having to out yourself as a vig
Don't get me wrong you like pretending to be a vig, but intimidating me by reminding me of past trauma is a scum!RCE move"Vork are you really confused about editing your sig?" ~Formerfish-
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Common courtesy dictates that you let us know lest you screw us over with itIn post 103, Doctor Drew wrote:Asking for a friend.
Meta is to claim any and all negative utility ASAP I think"Vork are you really confused about editing your sig?" ~Formerfish-
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Of course there's amazingly balanced garbage like "cultist recruiter enabler"
Hell korina might even get to be said cult leader when he rez's tomorrow or whatnot.
Kind of throws a wrench into the theory that korina is the one casting the ??? vote from beyond the grave but wtv"Vork are you really confused about editing your sig?" ~Formerfish-
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Korina.... cult.... joke???In post 111, RCEnigma wrote:Korina being cult was 100% a joke
No waaaaaay
Obligatory reminder that this could be a venge, lynchproof, or jester playIn post 112, Iconeum wrote:COME FORTH AND BE LYNCHED"Vork are you really confused about editing your sig?" ~Formerfish-
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So Cyrus, DDrew, and Baezu were also in this game.In post 55, gameplay506 wrote:viewtopic.php?f=23&t=80608 is the game I was talking about
Any intuition that you could bestow upon us?"Vork are you really confused about editing your sig?" ~Formerfish-
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@Drew come clean so we can work out how to prevent the bastardness from spiraling out of control.In post 118, cyrus62 wrote:however whats with this cult
VOTE: Korina"Vork are you really confused about editing your sig?" ~Formerfish-
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I'm now trying to communicate- this is how I hopefuly grab his attention.
If he votes me back, then we'll have a lot of fun.
Although in the interest of simplicity, if the mysterious townie is NOT korina and is considerate enough to inform me that I should stop wasting my time with Crystal balls and tea leaves, then kindly vote like... Baezu (random person- I miss her and she has 0 votes on her)
And if you want to impersonate korina then"Vork are you really confused about editing your sig?" ~Formerfish-
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Where are my table flip emojis at
@Drew- (hypothetically... to the best of your knowledge... without confirming or denying blah blah blah) can you be "roleblocked" (or rolestopped or whatever the terminology is) to prevent this?
@All y'all- the guy came clean, so is there a universe where we don't give him rope for helping us?"Vork are you really confused about editing your sig?" ~Formerfish-
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In post 128, cyrus62 wrote:sounds like we have to find cult before it spreads so
this is too big of a contradiction for me to even process, but I'm trying to divine stuff here so I'll pretend it's my englishIn post 128, cyrus62 wrote:UNVOTE: doctor drew
Oh boy did someone say setupspec?In post 129, RCEnigma wrote:we could be softlocked into a town loss
13 => 9:3:1?
D1-> ML (8:3:1)
N1-> NK + Recruit (6:3:2)
D2-> ML (5:3:2)
N2-> NK + Recruit = (3:3:3)
D3 wtf is this even
9:2:2 is just as bad
8:3:1:1 (idk jester/SK/survivor/lynchee/idgaf) is also fun
10:2:1... idk maybe not"Vork are you really confused about editing your sig?" ~Formerfish-
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In post 0, Not Known 15 wrote:Otherwise, at the end of the day a random townie gets lynched.In post 0, Not Known 15 wrote:Every evil faction
I refuse to believe that there isn't a dedicated scum faction in this gameIn post 0, Not Known 15 wrote:ads (e.g. Mafia factional chat)"Vork are you really confused about editing your sig?" ~Formerfish-
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clarification- ok that's fair, but you lose me inIn post 134, cyrus62 wrote:my unvote is to state i only voted for rvs if i re vote its not rvs.
can you spoonfeed me why voting drew is bad (from a mechanical PoV and not "it's a dick move")In post 134, cyrus62 wrote:however being bastard it could be town vs cult in which case killing doctor would prevent cult from growing. but we dont know how many are already in the cult"Vork are you really confused about editing your sig?" ~Formerfish-
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....In post 136, RCEnigma wrote:Could be 0. I'm assuming the cult starts at 0.
So in your universe (where there isn't a scum!faction), we have "13" townies and as a result we already won the game, HOWEVER day-by-day (technically by night but meh) the cultists grow in numbers and....
wtf is this even"Vork are you really confused about editing your sig?" ~Formerfish-
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In post 140, cyrus62 wrote:but a no lynch results@mod- can you confirm that VOTE: No Lynch is not-kosher?
(Obligatory back to VOTE: Korina)"Vork are you really confused about editing your sig?" ~Formerfish-
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Indeed.
So jigglypuff can earn the tinest of town posts for the effort, but we're going to need something more substantial.
*ahem*
Why are we considering lynching cyrus again?
and wtf is
ohIn post 140, cyrus62 wrote:lynch me so noo random town besides me
you're under the assumption that there isn't a scum!NK/vig/anything else huh"Vork are you really confused about editing your sig?" ~Formerfish-
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In post 143, Not Known 15 wrote:does not contain a rule enabling No Lynch."Vork are you really confused about editing your sig?" ~Formerfish-
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I retract thisIn post 144, Vorkuta wrote:So jigglypuff can earn the tinest of town posts for the effort, but we're going to need something more substantial."Vork are you really confused about editing your sig?" ~Formerfish-
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one more for good measureIn post 150, PMysterious wrote:UNVOTE:"Vork are you really confused about editing your sig?" ~Formerfish-
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Not buying it. Sorry.
Have there been any precedents of a game without a dedicated scum!faction at all?
Do you not realize how broken this game is if that was the case?
I refuse to believe that this is the implementation.
And I'm going to be """scum"""reading you for thinking this way because like.... just.... no"Vork are you really confused about editing your sig?" ~Formerfish-
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In post 155, RCEnigma wrote:It's a bastard game and to go "ahhh probably 9:3:1" is asinine.
There's "bastard" and there's "broken", there's "interesting mechanics" and "lolwtfRNG"In post 6895, Not Known 15 wrote:Flavor/Mechanics:At least 50% of all players will get a bastard role. Other than this.. it could contain bastard and non-bastard mechanics.
There's "insane cop" and "random cop"
I refuse to believe that we're playing a BS game, and knowing the mod there's gotta be some semblance of order and reason. (look at his adherence to rules to demonstrate this).
Thus, I'm scum reading you for side-tracking us with your BS. It's an excellent way to provide content while preventing town from accomplishing anything productive at all"Vork are you really confused about editing your sig?" ~Formerfish-
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-shit's random yoIn post 159, cyrus62 wrote:if said spy gets reculted by doctor then they tell us who is cult
-the spy's wincon changes so he has no more incentive to play ball
+1In post 164, RCEnigma wrote:No doc is well within reason to out his role for town to win.
If drew dies now, he'll still be town (unless black-magic-fuckery retroactively turns his win-con into a survivor or some shit like that).
And he did the best he could with letting us know with what's up"Vork are you really confused about editing your sig?" ~Formerfish-
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We had serious discussion regarding cyrus and drew before you stepped in with your "hurr durr no scum faction" BS to distract everyoneIn post 168, RCEnigma wrote:Town isn't doing anything productive
also I'm still waiting for the next VC to try and summon the ??? person"Vork are you really confused about editing your sig?" ~Formerfish-
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In post 170, RCEnigma wrote:You complained for 3 straight games about 9:4 setups after mini 2058.
*ahem*
-was a newbie back then
-now I realize that we had enough town power to win
-we had an informed IC who didn't tell us what was up
-it was more about losing to FL than about the setup
-was an inexperienced newbie back then
-mastina designed that game, not NK
-last game I played with NK (Large 221) was 100% fine and balanced (aka we won)
only 3? I complained way more"Vork are you really confused about editing your sig?" ~Formerfish-
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In post 171, RCEnigma wrote:Vork I'm shooting you tonight. YouIn post 90, Vorkuta wrote:VOTE: RCE
Spoiler:
also you're in effect scumclaiming by pulling this shit"Vork are you really confused about editing your sig?" ~Formerfish-
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Him threatening me with the vig shot is a scumclaim directed at me.
town!RCE wouldn't invoke that"Vork are you really confused about editing your sig?" ~Formerfish-
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In post 182, Vorkuta wrote:but how can I be scum if there isn't a scum faction until drew indirectly recruits cultists? /s"Vork are you really confused about editing your sig?" ~Formerfish-
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In post 186, RCEnigma wrote:Except that one time
AFTERWARDS. my argument isn't rocket science ffs so stop misrepping it
the trick worked once. bravo, very impressive, accolades, you got a sweep, congrats, great
The fact that you're doing it AGAIN is telling- you want to leash me and subtly brag about how you've got me in a vice.
The equivalent thing for me to do would be to claim multitasking fruit vendor to anyone who was in both games."Vork are you really confused about editing your sig?" ~Formerfish-
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your summary is very fittingIn post 188, cyrus62 wrote:it comes to either rce and vod are town or vod is scum and rce is town or rce is scum and vod is town .
also who the fuck is vod?
once more, for theIn post 189, RCEnigma wrote:VOTE: Vorkuta3rdtime
By """acknowledging""" that I'm scum, you're also saying that your previous theory of "hurr durr there isn't a scum faction until drew gets cultists" is BS.
Which makes my point valid.
You literally can't have it both ways so which is it?"Vork are you really confused about editing your sig?" ~Formerfish-
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you say something similar almost every game and I've only rolled scumIn post 192, nomnomnom wrote:Vork you reek of scum right now it's unrealagainstwith you once
And can you two please stop ignoring the brilliant logic of
>there is no scum in the game
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Fucking effortIn post 196, nomnomnom wrote:This is the first time but feel free to refresh my memory.
Mini 2076
Also home to some glorious phrases likeIn post 1641, nomnomnom wrote:I think vorkuta is actually good scum candidate whatever the flip is here.
Spoiler:
Large 221: sure you replaced into a scum slot, but nice bit of shade at vork was your go to move there
And of course there's something you should know but neither of us are allowed to discuss"Vork are you really confused about editing your sig?" ~Formerfish-
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Point is- you don't have a good record of reading me either way, and it's more than plausible that you're earning points.In post 192, nomnomnom wrote:Vork you reek of scum right now it's unreal
Although I actually think you might play around me as scum so I'll tentatively put you down as wrong!town and move on to other more interesting matters
Like divining"Vork are you really confused about editing your sig?" ~Formerfish-
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Goddamit. Won't or can't play ballIn post 203, Not Known 15 wrote:gameplay506 (1)??;"Vork are you really confused about editing your sig?" ~Formerfish-
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Drew, was way back inIn post 214, shos wrote:Who was the first to bring up cult in the first place, though? Did this happen before someone said they have a negative utility regarding cult?In post 103, Doctor Drew wrote:Totally random question, I have going back and forth on if I want to reveal, but if I have a role that more than likely is anti town....yet I am town......should I reveal?
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@gameplay
I'm 99% sure that the very early references were trollposts as this is korina's profile
memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=31189
Drew's was the first serious acknowledgement IMHO"Vork are you really confused about editing your sig?" ~Formerfish-
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no because there isn't a single member of the cult faction until drew begins his recruiting rite @RCE???In post 218, gameplay506 wrote:Does 1 cult whatever and 1 cult recruiter who is town make sense?/s
*ahem*
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In post 222, shos wrote:This is too setupspecy for meIn post 105, Doctor Drew wrote:Well for now I will say.... there most likely is a cult.
And I may be helping the cult recruit.In post 124, Doctor Drew wrote:In a nutshell, every night I am alive some one randomly(I have no say in the matter) is recruited into a cult. This happens the first two nights, and maybe the third. Also I cannot be one of the recruits."Vork are you really confused about editing your sig?" ~Formerfish-
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I'd buy it tbh. I'd buy it even more if drew wasn't informed, but yeah.In post 229, shos wrote:I kinda think this is a lie tho
Eitherway, it makes sense to look into the people who are all like "HANG HIM" without even taking a second to think about what other factions he could be when making this claim (*ahem* RCE, cyrus...)
Well when you signed up for this, it was called EXTREMELY Bastard no?In post 229, shos wrote:On another note, does anyone know why the game is called "E Bastard"?"Vork are you really confused about editing your sig?" ~Formerfish-
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namely?In post 231, gameplay506 wrote:The imputs from vorkuta make me puke a little in my mouth
huh...... no.In post 232, gameplay506 wrote:Cyrus basically said don't hang him and unvoted?In post 137, Vorkuta wrote:
clarification- ok that's fair, but you lose me inIn post 134, cyrus62 wrote:my unvote is to state i only voted for rvs if i re vote its not rvs.
can you spoonfeed me why voting drew is bad (from a mechanical PoV and not "it's a dick move")In post 134, cyrus62 wrote:however being bastard it could be town vs cult in which case killing doctor would prevent cult from growing. but we dont know how many are already in the cultIn post 140, cyrus62 wrote:
lynch me so noo random town besides me dies or lynch doctor so the cult don't grow, but a no lynch results in one person dieing any way.In post 135, PMysterious wrote:Reading through now, and with the role that was claimed, things are looking interesting as it is. A cult where no one knows who gets recruited, and chances are there's a whole lot more. At this point, I just wanna no-lynch and see what happens in the game night, but I don't know if that goes against my win condition or not.
He unvoted for reasons that are completely unclear to me, but is saving the "we need to hang drew" attitude
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if even a shitty player like me can stop the kneejerk reaction to vote for drew because ofIn post 233, gameplay506 wrote:How is hang him a bad response to someone claiming a role that is actively hurting town?
then you really have to ask why the other players are blindly calling for his headIn post 114, Vorkuta wrote:Obligatory reminder that this could be a venge, lynchproof, or jester play
yeah exactlyIn post 235, gameplay506 wrote:Yes,vorkuta?
D1: (pulling numbers out of various orfices here)2 cultists, 1 recruiter (drew), (2 total cultists).
We miraculously lynch a cultist= 1 cultist and 1 recruiter remaining
N1: drew convertes
D2: We're back to 2 cultists and 1 recruiter.
Progress done = 0
We address the symptoms and contain the spread of this bastard infection BEFORE trying to find the source.
Cyrus is not even unvoting due to "jester" reasons, he's unvoting for.... "cult hunting" reasons, something RCE doesn't even think exists on D1.
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perfect.In post 237, gameplay506 wrote:than dumbindicative what RCE is doing
excellent.
we're on the same page
Personal respect/meta read.
I think RCE is too good a player to genuinely be this bad as town.
and I see benefit in scum!rce causing and creating this chaos and living in it.
We have players like shos who miss key posts every now and then, so it would suck completely if the first thing they see when they log-in is RCE's BS which, as it stands right now, I'm like the only one contesting.
I think this is a scum angle, ESPECIALLY considering his vig threats at me (but that's even more meta and between us)"Vork are you really confused about editing your sig?" ~Formerfish-
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i love you, thank you for giving this sacred and vital information so I can rub it in people's facesIn post 239, Doctor Drew wrote:It is heavily implied there already are cult members, or at least one cult member already.
->drew: unvotes without a clear reason without realizing that this is literally "whack-a-mole" and where BEST CASE SCENARIO one cultist falls another will rise and WORST CASE SCENARIO we miss and the cultist tumor growsIn post 238, gameplay506 wrote:How is that better or even in any way comparable to RCE voting Drew for his cult recruiter claim
->RCE: the dumbness of it was explained ^"Vork are you really confused about editing your sig?" ~Formerfish-
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I've already probably made my position on this fiasco relatively clear, so I gladly transfer the privilege of answering to someone who needs to step it up activity-wiseIn post 241, gameplay506 wrote:Vorkuta you go firstIn post 242, gameplay506 wrote:Ywhypothetical cultleader!baezu is now laughing like a maniac.
I like this reasoning but I think it's too surface level.
Cyrus buckled ridiculously under RVS pressure and I don't think it's that straighforward
scum!RCE found himself aIn post 243, gameplay506 wrote:RCE has uncoted Drew so he isn't really pushing Drew anymorebigger threatbetter mislynch target in yours truly
the fact that he isn't actively "pushing" drew has to do with activity/login-times (I had RTI with him for a while), but his position on him is clear (and contradictory but wtv)
quick refresherIn post 189, RCEnigma wrote:I'm cool with lynching doc tomorrow. 1 cultist but they may not be able to recruit without doc.
*inhales*In post 243, gameplay506 wrote:His vig threats are something I see every game from at least one other player
*exhales*In post 187, Vorkuta wrote:The fact that you're doing it AGAIN is telling- you want to leash me and subtly brag about how you've got me in a vice.
The equivalent thing for me to do would be to claim multitasking fruit vendor to anyone who was in both games."Vork are you really confused about editing your sig?" ~Formerfish