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[Chemist1422]

morning

[Chemist1422]

morning

It's afternoon where I am. A more chronologically neutral getting would be "Time of day"

good morning/day/evening/night/whatever other time it might be for y'all

that better?

[Chemist1422]

[Chemist1422]

I just realized how many lurkers/inscrutable players we have in this game. I will not be sparing anyone and do not think we should spare. We need alignments.

Excuse me I am extremely scrutable

[Chemist1422]

I just realized how many lurkers/inscrutable players we have in this game. I will not be sparing anyone and do not think we should spare. We need alignments.

Excuse me I am extremely scrutable

I do appreciate that you acknowledged you were one of the people I was talking about.

yup

I’m trying to make sense of this mechanics talk but it’s a bit difficult so I’m gonna just read the OP more

brb

[Chemist1422]

I had an idea that we kill the first two days then spare Undyne and her target if she’s the PR but that’s kind of bad if she’s not

We could just vote for whatever read we’re strongest on

[Chemist1422]

By the way, what’s Undertale?

Same tho

At least you probably know all about Overtale.

overtale is one of the weirder AUs but not the levels of weird you'd expect from the UT fanbase

Either way, I don't know much about it

[Chemist1422]

By the way, what’s Undertale?

Same tho

At least you probably know all about Overtale.

overtale is one of the weirder AUs but not the levels of weird you'd expect from the UT fanbase

Either way, I don't know much about it

AU?

Alternate Universe

[Chemist1422]

HEAL: Elements

ok so apparently there's not a button for the heal code but I actually feel most solid on this rn

[Chemist1422]

Now that I’ve locked Chennis in the shadow realm I think he is scum and strongly advocate that we reach the core at neutral stage

Are you advocating for the neutral route purely on the bases of Chennis being scum, or do you have other reasons for wanting it?

The reason I want Neutral is because I am Asgore and if I am correct we can win by PoE in the spare pool.

I would like to be spared now. I would also like that we Kill 2 players to finish out the game Core mechanic, that way we can confirm Chennis as scum come Neutral phase.

HEAL: Oversoul

Hard claim, never rescinding?

[Chemist1422]

I CC, I'm Toriel

Protected Elements last night

HURT: Oversoul

[Chemist1422]

There's not really that big of a benefit for going pacifist at this point given that I'm always dying tonight so my protection won't come into play

[Chemist1422]

I'm always dying tonight

If you're always dying tonight, why would we kill Oversoul today rather than tomorrow?

I'm always dying tonight after Over's flip, that is

Do you have any crumbs to back that up Chemist?

I do

Look at the video I posted at the start of the game

[Chemist1422]

What does the video have to do with anything

Watch the beginning part

I thought it was clever at least

[Chemist1422]

We spare me (or another townread like DDL or Elements), then if Chemist stops a kill we lynch Oversoul, otherwise we lynch Chemist. Right?

I don't accept that

I'm not getting lynched because scum out-wifoms me

[Chemist1422]

Is Toriel that cow nun thing?

wh

[Chemist1422]

If we're not sorting me/Over today I'm going back to this

HEAL: Elements

[Chemist1422]

Chennisden scum. PR should not claim because then they get counterclaimed and we are back where we started.

HMMMM

[Chemist1422]

SS you’re never getting spared, sorry bud.

Also, conftown or not, you don't get to say stuff like this without reasoning.

I think you’ve been scummy with all your self heal and Chennis interactions. I didn’t trust Chennis and don’t trust you by proxy.

???

It can't be Chennis/SS unless you think I'm FPSing or you're FPSing

[Chemist1422]

If we spare Elements today, kill me tomorrow, and Oversoul D4 we hit the neutral core with one mafia and four town dead

That makes it 5v1, then assuming Elements and chennis are both town they get peeked clear and one of them is nightkilled, putting us in 4v1 with a clear

If Elements/chennis has a scum then it’s 3v1 with 2 clears

I like those odds either way

[Chemist1422]

Stop. I am not ccing. Chemist is real or. HEAL: Chemist

HEAL: Chemist

why did you out me tho

[Chemist1422]

HEAL: pop

I would like time to work on legacy stuff

[Chemist1422]

Hard claim never rescinding

I do kinda wanna bring this back up though

The correct answer to this question is always “no” no matter whether you’re scum, VT, or PR

[Chemist1422]

HURT: no one

[Chemist1422]

So. Heres what's up nvm. Chemist slash oversoul are both not getting killed, since if one dies, the other one is immediately outted.

Oversoul retracted

[Chemist1422]

Actually, do you want to be spared chemist?

Yes, but not immediately

I’ll be spending today working on legacy reads, then you can spare me

[Chemist1422]

Chemist do you think we should go spare route or do you think we should go Neutral?

I am pretty sure I have a third but not sure I’ll have a fourth to spare

I think we go Neutral if we’re confident we can flip one scum in two people, otherwise go pacifist

[Chemist1422]

Sorry I haven’t had much WIM over the past two days, I should be able to get around to stuff in about an hour

[Chemist1422]

Sorry I haven’t had much WIM over the past two days, I should be able to get around to stuff in about an hour

I am now (maybe) temporarily ditching the internet to play Ori and the Blind Forest

Another hour or so probably

[Chemist1422]

Sorry I haven’t had much WIM over the past two days, I should be able to get around to stuff in about an hour

I am now (maybe) temporarily ditching the internet to play Ori and the Blind Forest

Another hour or so probably

So this turned into two hours

Whoops

[Chemist1422]

I’m not as strong town on DDL as I am on like Elements

I’m nulltown there probably

[Chemist1422]

Here's a read list for people to comment on seeing as nothing's happening

Town Read:
Chemist
Adorable
Chennis

Null:
Volxen
flippynips
DEB
DDL

Scum - I think it's likely one of these is scum but not both
SS
Oversoul

Your townreads are basically the same as mine

Haven’t really sorted the null/scum brackets

[Chemist1422]

I don't have anything significant to add other than I'm ready to end the day and meh on Elements town.

Talk to me about the Elements read, I got the same vibes from them here as I did in Ruby

[Chemist1422]

Alright I'm back and I've got furret walk music playing

Let's do this

[Chemist1422]

was he scum in Ruby?

No, town

like Elements is probably 80 percent town, but I wouldn't say he's 95 percent town.

my issue with elements is that he's really just going along with the "popular consensus", which in this style of game could be just going for, I need to be spared and as long as people town read me enough that's OK. For example, his read list of Chemist (obv town), Chennis (moot), and Adorable (adorable) as town seems to suggest that hey, if sparing the 4th, just spare me. He also finds it required to say SS and Oversoul as scum, but only one of them, it's might be used to throw shade at the null pile

But maybe I'm overthinking things

So what makes him 80% town, given that you have this completely legitimate issue with him?

[Chemist1422]

Hard claim never rescinding

I still want Oversoul to explain why they said this

Otherwise I kinda wanna townlean them for going out of their way to draw attention to themselves, with the PR fakeclaim and somewhat intentionally antagonizing people with the refusal to actually give their reads

[Chemist1422]

Chemist
Elements
Adorable?
DDL
Oversoul
--others?--

idk I don't have any scumreads out of the half of the playerlist I've read into which is weird, but could also just mean I read the wrong people first

[Chemist1422]

People always say “ I don’t believe you didn’t know what you were getting in to when you signed up” but I never do. I just /indeed for the game cos the homie DEB is in the game.

I think this is a weird post given that this is the only acknoweldgement of DEB in their ISO except putting them at null in the readslist and calling them a sheep

Plus their ISO is pretty lacking on content as well

[Chemist1422]

@smarty- i don’t think I have that much experience with you in general. If I do I can’t remember, rn I’m worried of a Chennis/you team.

Plus there's this with no progression or follow-up

[Chemist1422]

Volxen is like

The most light of townreads

I don't think they've done anything they can't fake as scum but they're a little bit surface towny by the amount of solving

[Chemist1422]

Chemist
Elements
[Adorable/DDL] - pending reread
Oversoul
volxen
-----null line-----
[DEB? SS? someone should be here but I can't really think of anyone I've read yet]
Flips

[Chemist1422]

Hard claim never rescinding

I still want Oversoul to explain why they said this

Otherwise I kinda wanna townlean them for going out of their way to draw attention to themselves, with the PR fakeclaim and somewhat intentionally antagonizing people with the refusal to actually give their reads

It was part of my PR fakeclaim. I didn’t know if you were going to claim or just setting the stage.

Yeah I know but you proceeded to rescind it after I specifically asked whether you were going to or not, and you said no

So

[Chemist1422]

DEB is DEB

I have no idea how to read them so I'm just going to call them PoE scum(?) and leave their slot alone

[Chemist1422]

SS has 69 posts and is lock [scum/town] for that

kidding I'll do an actual read now

[Chemist1422]

We spare me (or another townread like DDL or Elements), then if Chemist stops a kill we lynch Oversoul, otherwise we lynch Chemist. Right?

This feels kinda agenda-ish ngl

I don’t know why you’re getting hung up on the never rescinding. I needed to sell it so I could get a genuine reaction from the PR

f a i r e n o u g h

[Chemist1422]

What the ASS.

HEAL: Chemist

Oversoul if you hated and scumread chennis so much why did you literally force through his plan of having the PR claim and get spared?

This also feels kinda like a TMI reaction, somewhat to the opposite of his post about SS/chennis not being possible

[Chemist1422]

I somehow manage to have a lighter townread on Adorable than volxen after a reread

It's also basically a gutread with little to no basis

Chemist
Elements
DDL
Oversoul
volxen
Adorable
DEB - null
Flips
SS

I'll answer any questions anyone has then I'm ready to end day

I feel like I am definitely going to Kill SS tomorrow unless I can be talked down from that ledge.

I couldn't find a gif of it but do you know that part in the Zelda CD-i games where the guy goes "go with many blessings"

That's what I'd put here

[Chemist1422]

I actually think Flips is pretty townie personally

Why though

[Chemist1422]

HEAL: chemist

k then

[Chemist1422]

High five Deb

[Chemist1422]

okay then

gg

[Chemist1422]

Chemist

Elements

DDL
Oversoul

volxen

Adorable
DEB - null
Flips
SS

whoops