Unstable Mafia - Game Over

[DoubtingThomas]

Hey creature your daddy is here for you

[DoubtingThomas]

Why didnt overkill out his scan what if there is a dayvig or something

[DoubtingThomas]

did creature break his meta

[DoubtingThomas]

also temporal, you are so scummy right now. you might get farther if you don't post instead of trying in a futile attempt

[DoubtingThomas]

Oh. I'll have you know that I know Creature, REC the best out of this player list, and I know they know me too, so I can joke with them both.

I also know Vedith, Overkill and volxen (somewhat). teacher I only played once and he modded me once so I can't say I "know" him, but he also will understand.

I now see how this maybe confusing you so I'll stop. Sorry.

@creature is this true? i thought i was ur daddy

[DoubtingThomas]

Oh. I'll have you know that I know Creature, REC the best out of this player list, and I know they know me too, so I can joke with them both.

I also know Vedith, Overkill and volxen (somewhat). teacher I only played once and he modded me once so I can't say I "know" him, but he also will understand.

I now see how this maybe confusing you so I'll stop. Sorry.

i am actually not pleased with the fact that you 'jokingly' said, "fooled ya" to creature town reading you then being defensive when lich calls you out on this and you say, "how am i being scummy?". it's like you weren't even aware of the fact that implying creature is wrong again for town reading you is a "joke"

seems like a perspective slip in a way. not realizing that's acting scummy because maybe it's not a joke? idk. doesn't feel good.

[DoubtingThomas]

I have Over and Almost as town for now

haha.. fooled ya

again

!

what the fuck are you saying

did you just scum slip or are you just completely incapable of recognizing what the fuck you are writing yourself?

[DoubtingThomas]

VOTE: almost50

i can't play with people who do not have short term memory span greater than that of a baby chimpanzee tbh

[DoubtingThomas]

also temporal, you are so scummy right now. you might get farther if you don't post instead of trying in a futile attempt

Are you actually trying to pressure me into not posting and thus looking scummy?

You're only trying to get me lynched because you know it will benefit you and your buddies.

Even if you were town, that post is still anti-town.

VOTE: DoubtingThomas

sorry my sarcasm wasn't clear, but i was ridiculing the fact that your posts are shit and and a lot of others are already scum reading you and rightfully so

just wanted a friendly reminder in a humorous way to think before you post a bit, lol sorry if it offended u

[DoubtingThomas]

sorry my sarcasm wasn't clear, but i was ridiculing the fact that your posts are shit and and a lot of others are already scum reading you and rightfully so

just wanted a friendly reminder in a humorous way to think before you post a bit, lol sorry if it offended u

Denying information to the town is never a good thing. Whether it be No Lynch D1 or trying to pressure people into not posting.

sorry you can't take jokes bro

[DoubtingThomas]

sorry if a random stranger telling you to stop posting in a game of forum mafia is a pressure you cant take and overreact this much to

LMFAO

[DoubtingThomas]

are you really saying me inferring "i fooled you again" in a game of mafia as you having a previous experience of fooling creature as a wolf is scummy?

you asked me for a game where you fooled creature before? i showed you why YOU were implying that in your post? but now you are twisting that as to me attacking other people's town reads on others?

what a terrible game style

[DoubtingThomas]

sorry you can't take jokes bro

And you bloody can?? What a hypocrite. You justify telling someone not to post as a joke, yet someone telling another they "fooled them again" (in the main thread no less) is a serious issue?

i didn't tell you not to post jokes. i said you joking in that situation like that is scummy.

i jokingly said that to lich because he was being scummy.

there is a difference. are you just daft?

[DoubtingThomas]

i am kinda speechless about almost's progression here. i don't know if it's dumb townie or scum, but it's super bad

[DoubtingThomas]

implying creature is

wrong again

for town reading you

You're done slinging mud on everybody, pal. Show me where he did it the first time or I'll call you a liar.
Creature usually wrongly

scum reads me when I'm town

, but I don't recall the last time he Town read me when I was scum. Do you have a reference?

asking me as if I was saying creature town reads him previously, when the only thing i was referring to was his own word about implying "creature wrongly reads me AGAIN"

unbelievable progression. honestly

[DoubtingThomas]

i was ridiculing the fact that your posts are shit

To what purpose? Why won't you tell him what was wrong (from your PoV) instead? Why would anyone want to "ridicule" someone's posts that weren't even directed at them?

because the dude was getting scum read by open claimed cop and was playing bad

[DoubtingThomas]

I said I fooled him again. I didn't even say it was "in a game of Mafia", let alone "town reading me when I'm scum". It's not my fault that you have comprehension problems or you jump to conclusions reading something that isn't there, and if you had tried to read beyond that you'd realize I explained I can joke with Creature & RCE (specifically) without them misunderstanding.

@ everyone

let me know if i am dreaming or not, but someone says "i fooled you again" in a game of mafia, it's scummy for me to "jump to conclusion" about that fooling being in a previous mafia game rather than in some secret private interaction with him that doesn't have anything to do with mafia?

LMFAO wow this is just so pathetic. kinda lost mad respect for you if this is how you play mafia

[DoubtingThomas]

can't play with this little shit in the game

VOTE: almost50

it's me or him today

[DoubtingThomas]

you were literally trying to spin the narrative as if i was implying any knowledge of you and creature's history, when all i did was infer (and rightfully so) that creature has wrongly scum read you before and you joking like that is not townie at all

you were trying to pretend stuff to make me look like a liar.

it was either that or you just forgot abotu what you said yourself which i thought was equivalent to being forgetful in the most unbelievable sense.

then you pushed that narrative further into creating a false scum case on me, which i took you as being daft.

i think it was either you were being purposefully unaware of what you were talking about or just scum.

at first i thought it could be the former, but now i think you are scum.

tell me, in what way have i "belittled everyone's town case on everyone"

[DoubtingThomas]

literally 6 pages in, the dude is saying he scum reads me because "i didn't ask for reasoning on why people town read others"

oh man mafia would have been so easier if all the towns just asked for the reasoning behind their town reads and scums didn't. right?

I DIDN'T DO IT BECAUSE THAT KINDA SHIT DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING. I KNOW FORA FACT THEIR TOWN READ IS A WEAKER ONE WITH ONLY 6 PAGES OF CONTENT TO GO OFF FROM. WHETHER OR NOT I AGREE WITH THEIR TOWNREAD NOR THE FACT THAT THEY UNDERSTAND MY DISAGREEMENT TO THEIR TOWN READ DOESN'T MATTER WE ARE IN LIKE MIDDLE OF RVS

WHY ARE YOU GOING OFF OF THE NAI'EST NAI TO TRY TO SPIN A SCUM READ ON ME? IT DOESN'T LOOK REAL

[DoubtingThomas]

Exhibit 1: Someone says Creature is lock town and you immediately shade the read by asking if Creature broke his meta

Creature is lock town for being town motivated as fuck+ being the first on ur wagon

did creature break his meta

Exhibit 2: Someone quotes my post and says I'm a TR now and you quote the same post saying you don't like what was stated in a previous post of mine which I explained in the quoted post.

Alright thanks for the explanation.

I guess you're now a TR.

i am actually not pleased with the fact that you 'jokingly' said, "fooled ya" to creature town reading you then being defensive when lich calls you out on this and you say, "how am i being scummy?". it's like you weren't even aware of the fact that implying creature is wrong again for town reading you is a "joke"

seems like a perspective slip in a way. not realizing that's acting scummy because maybe it's not a joke? idk. doesn't feel good.

This AND you shading TemporalLich for trying to move the game forward.

All in under 4 pages.

Exhibit 1: Someone previously said something about creature breaking meta. I have a personal experience to this. I recently had a game with creature. It was a game in Mafia Universe and it was anonymous. I was scum with creature but creature hid his identity until a day before the game ended. I didn't know creature was in my mafia team. I thought his posting was kinda scummy, so I pushed him and many other scummates. I got vigged d2 because my teammates bussed me, but basically won the game for us because I was able to anti spew my teammates, including creature. Looking back and finding out that was creature, I thought, he was kinda scummy in an anon game, and I feel like I would have scum read him 100% of the time if I knew he was creature because of his meta. Someone said he "broke his meta" in the thread, you can go check. so this was something I wanted to bring up, as I joined the game late. It is farfetched you are trying to spin this narrative as to I was purposefully trying to 'shade' someone's "TR" on creature when all that happened was I joined the game late and commented on that post to make sure if creature did 'break' his meta. I don't even scum read creature atm, i think this is in his town meta given my recent encounter with him, but wanted to ask for the sake of knowing if his meta actually broke like someone said it did

Exhibit 2: I am poinitng out what I didn't like about your post because (apparently, but unbelievably) I inferred the post wrongly. That is not my fault. It's yours for writing that way and using that to misrepresent what I was saying, as if I was trying to lie about creatuer and your history between each other, when the inferring I did is plentifully reasonable.

Exhibit 3: Shading TemporaLich? I am trying to cheer the kid up as people ard hard scum reading him already. How is that shading in your opinion?

yep. your scum case on me bullshit, confirmed.

[DoubtingThomas]

literally 6 pages in, the dude is saying he scum reads me because "i didn't ask for reasoning on why people town read others"

oh man mafia would have been so easier if all the towns just asked for the reasoning behind their town reads and scums didn't. right?

I DIDN'T DO IT BECAUSE THAT KINDA SHIT DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING. I KNOW FORA FACT THEIR TOWN READ IS A WEAKER ONE WITH ONLY 6 PAGES OF CONTENT TO GO OFF FROM. WHETHER OR NOT I AGREE WITH THEIR TOWNREAD NOR THE FACT THAT THEY UNDERSTAND MY DISAGREEMENT TO THEIR TOWN READ DOESN'T MATTER WE ARE IN LIKE MIDDLE OF RVS

WHY ARE YOU GOING OFF OF THE NAI'EST NAI TO TRY TO SPIN A SCUM READ ON ME? IT DOESN'T LOOK REAL

Then why are you so worried about me stating a SR on you then? It must be a weaker one too and that shit doesn't mean anything. Right? You should have no worries. And besides you're still L-5.

sup I just debunked your scum case on me that doesn't exist. congrats on being d1 lynch for fucking with the wrong kid in town. i will be back tomorrow to make sure you are the lynch cuz u r so obvious

good luck with trying to fool everyone else in the town hopefully they are bright enough to see my obv town ness

[DoubtingThomas]

just lynch Lich for freelo wtf

yea we do need you to put in more input

[DoubtingThomas]

how bout lynching u

[DoubtingThomas]

i am not. pretty sure i made my scum read of lich pretty clear before

[DoubtingThomas]

defending a player is different to saying another player just tunneling without doing anything should stop, creature. you know the drill

[DoubtingThomas]

also temporal, you are so scummy right now. you might get farther if you don't post instead of trying in a futile attempt

people just don't fucking read the fucking game

[DoubtingThomas]

i am not going to fucking play the game if player A scum reads me for scum reading them to the point of jokingly telling them not to post and player B scum reads me for 'shading' temporal and player C scum reads me for apparently not scum reading temporal

Jesus, I need you

[DoubtingThomas]

i scum read lich. the dude was so scummy i had the urge to joke and tell him to stop posting. how is that shading?

[DoubtingThomas]

you are trying to make me look like i contradicted myself when it's not even remotely confusing to understand what happened

[DoubtingThomas]

took that as scum reading me, my bad. gonna pce out for now before i get toxic again. too much toxicity recently

[DoubtingThomas]

Worm whas ur read

[DoubtingThomas]

defending a player is different to saying another player just tunneling without doing anything should stop, creature. you know the drill

So what are we supposed to do if we shouldn't "tunnel" anyone rn?

Talk abt others

[DoubtingThomas]

I've reread this thread trying to look for a possible scumbuddy to DT, oh boy DT looks scummy as heck. DT seems to be tunneling Almost50 even. I hate to say this but DT is a net loss for the town. If DT flips red Creature is likely red.

VOTE: DoubtingThomas

0verki11 is still a decent enough wagon, a red 0verki11 likely means a red Dr Worm and could potentially implicate a red pignash.

my braincells died reading this

RIP brain cells

[DoubtingThomas]

worm never gets lynched today for mechanical reasons. almost50 being like the only one realizing this is a good look

temporal is keep butting his head onto me like laboon headbutting on the Red Line. Whenever I want to vote on him, however, 0verk1ll comes in doing absolutely nothing making me not want to vote laboon

hmm I am torn

[DoubtingThomas]

the above post is way too self conscious

[DoubtingThomas]

and a weird back off from thunderdoming with me. why wagon a lurker?

[DoubtingThomas]

'start somewhere' what does that mean? does this imply that voting me before and attacking me was not a start? it was a joke/

[DoubtingThomas]

leaves:

pignash
demonlord
rosterfoster
DoubtingThomas
TemporalLich
volxen

creature u are better at reading me than this

[DoubtingThomas]

why is mr demon getting wagoned. shouldnt we wait for his sub

[DoubtingThomas]

VOTE: temporallich

[DoubtingThomas]

good boy creats

[DoubtingThomas]

he will

[DoubtingThomas]

hot damn rosterfoster VIBING WITH ME TONIGHT

[DoubtingThomas]

its possible you fool

[DoubtingThomas]

maybe cuz we r not team LMAO

[DoubtingThomas]

that i am town

[DoubtingThomas]

it is useful.. now you have one less slot to solve yw

[DoubtingThomas]

unlucky boy podoboy

[DoubtingThomas]

it is useful.. now you have one less slot to solve yw

If you're so confident you're town then fine... I'll entertain your notion for now (read: you're still scummy and lamist AF).

VOTE: 0verki11

???

[DoubtingThomas]

What did lich just do

[DoubtingThomas]

unlucky boy podoboy

???

he missed the end of the page post because of me

[DoubtingThomas]

vedith am i a wolf?

[DoubtingThomas]

id lynch lich over rabbi in a heart beat

[DoubtingThomas]

....there's scum in my town block....I can feel it.

Why are you getting minor scum vibes from me? Because of the question I asked of Creature? I thought it was a fair question.

when did he say he thinks you give off scum vibes

[DoubtingThomas]

266 is me explaining my read lmao, and why is me tunneling you scummy to begin with?

Tunneling is scummy because it distracts from actual information (and thus hinders town). 492 shows a willingness to town it up though, so you've moved up the list.

5- TL also needs to stop the OMGUS. Instead, show us why you shouldn't be voted, or -at least- give us a real case other than "He's tunneling me so I'm returning the favour. That ain't gonna fly further than your own nose.

P.S. I still maintain that OK vs TL us very likely TvT, with the caveat that I don't even know TL and don't claim to be an expert on OK's meta.

Yeah TL vs OK is clearly fruitless. There is a chance that Rabbi Vole gets green checked by a successful Dr Worm coaching, but for now Vole is a wagon worth wagoning. I agree it's probably TvT, Overkill actually is towning it up for once.

VOTE: Rabbi Vole

May post a readlist soon.

Lead Rist:

[Town]

RCEnigma

Almost50

teacher

Vedith

Creature

pignash

0verki11

Rabbi Vole

volxen

rosterfoster

Dr Worm

DoubtingThomas

[Scum]

RCEnigma - The hero we need and deserve. An info goldmine and team player.

Almost50 - Despite jokingly being scum, is very good at making content.

teacher - Coldly logical and good at info, low activity.

Vedith - Towns it up despite incredibly convenient and scummy roleclaim.

Creature - Middle of the road townie according to ISO.

pignash - ISO is dry of info, but acts towny

0verki11 - Scummy AF... until RCE said the interaction with me is TvT and I found info by 0verki11.

Rabbi Vole - Seemingly towny I guess.

volxen - Lurker

rosterfoster - Please try to seem like a team player.

Dr Worm - All talk, no action. Want to see a coaching on Vole.

DoubtingThomas - Scummy AF. Unlike 0verki11 I don't believe DT could be towny.

VOTE: DoubtingThomas

literally nothing changed on my slot nor rabbi vole's slot between the 30 minutes

[DoubtingThomas]

@mod I will be V/LA until the weekend.

I say he needs to post more and he declares VLA.

Anyone up for a wagon here? I don't want to start a vanity wagon, but if I can find 2-3 others willing to make this a competing wagon I'm all for it.

VOTE: Pignash

Let's go for it.

almost50 made a big long wall case on me and doesn't really come back to it, but is actively looking for new wagons to form imo to save lich

[DoubtingThomas]

Lichy sell me on DT as scum?
If you could vig 0verki11 right now would you do it? I'm kinda craving some decisiveness in your read on him.

I would dayvig DT right this second if I could.

I would not vig 0verki11 right now, but if 0verki11 keeps acting scummy I would consider 0verki11 as a vig target (I still think TL/OK is TvT so I'm not vigging town if I can help it).

Why DT is scum and can't be cleared even with a green check from someone who flipped Full Cop (investigates for role name and alignment i.e. would know if you're a mafia godfather or townie):

111 - Scummy entry pocketing Creature

137 - Trying to pressure me into not posting

143 - Toxic much?

147 - Scummy reaction tbh

155 - DT you do realize both situations are scummy right?

159 - Hostility to everyone is not how teamwork works

160 - This might actually be WotCable

163 - I think this gave more weight to "DT is scum"

230 - Chainsaw defense

236 - Oh god the salt

239 - How is that not obvious disrespect?!

292 - More shading of me

389 - Pocketing RF

421 - LAMIST

Question for the class:

How many of these points actually warrant scum points?

[DoubtingThomas]

Lich is either the most obvious scum or the most terrible town i've ever seen

either way, truly embarassing

[DoubtingThomas]

Spoiler:

I have Over and Almost as town for now

haha.. fooled ya

again

!

what the fuck are you saying

did you just scum slip or are you just completely incapable of recognizing what the fuck you are writing yourself?

I said I

fooled him

again. I didn't even say it was "in a game of Mafia", let alone "town reading me when I'm scum". It's not

my

fault that

you

have comprehension problems or you jump to conclusions reading something that isn't there, and if you had tried to read beyond that you'd realize I explained I can joke with Creature & RCE (specifically) without them misunderstanding.

But that's not the

only

problem here. The real issue is you're comments seem to be aiming at playing down anyone's TR on anyone. You so not want

anyone

to trust

anyone else

. You know who does that? Scum do. They want the town to keep doubting each other and keep everyone in their lynching pool. You know how town go about TRs they feel unjustified> They

ask for the reasoning

. They don't go "I'm not pleased about this" and "you are scummy so stop posting" and "did he break his meta?" (on response to a TR stated on Creature).

VOTE: DoubtingThomas

And you may scream "OMGUS" as loud as you can, cuz I don't care how it looks to you nor how you want to call it.

ME IS NO LYKE DIS SR WARM GIMMICK. HAW DOES EVERYBIDY FEEL ABOWT LINCHYNG THEM TOODAY?

I can think of at least 8 ways to kill a worm.

I can think of 3:

1- Dipping it in alcohol
2- Locking it in a can after blowing cigarette smokes in it
3- Sinking it in certain sticky liquids

That's why drinking, smoking and having lots of sex is GOOD for your health.

On a serious note though, do you think it a good idea to out a VT role, gave Worm target it (and die), and then scum shoot the new PR? I mean, IF this role is for real them he played it in the worst possible way EVER.

Man this game is going at a

snails

worm pace.

Fixed that for you, Mr President.

The best play to Worm's claim is to leave him alone for today. If he town, Scum will have to decide whether to believe him or not, amd if they do they need to decide on whether kill him or not. Anything that gives scum a headache I am good with.

defending a player is different to saying another player just tunneling without doing anything should stop, creature. you know the drill

So what are we supposed to do if we shouldn't "tunnel" anyone rn?

Obviously if you can't tunnel you need to bridge, unless you prefer to wait for the ferry.

Eh, gotta start somewhere

VOTE: demonlord

RCE, Creature and Vedith want this wagon, so who am I to argue? This is NOT me denying responsibility for the flip, btw. I am just stating my reason for voting there, but it;s MY vote and MY responsibility.

Woah, woah, woah! That changed fast! Against me! I feel that this just a scum lynch. Lynching the underdog.

No. It's a Democrats driven impeachment. Hillary's collaborating with the Chinese, North Koreans and the Mexicans (only the bad ones. The drug dealers). Oh, and -most importantly- the

CNN

is backing this all the way.

Demonlord, I meant that you probably meant that you were the one being jumped on.

I thought you meant that he probably meant that you probably meant that you smell spearmint!

Dude, post something that has to do with the game, pg you will. (Or you can relief me of all taxes and cancel my parking tickets in exchange for my vote going elsewhere. Your choice.)

???

???

^Was this still open or did I miss out?^

1- I don't understand the case on TL as of yet. Can anyone help me get why he is being wagoned?
2- Rabbi (Trump slot) is being resisted heavily by 4-5 players, and I can't see them all being town. If giving the replacement slack was the idea, I don't see why it was resisted by so many BEFORE the replacement took place.
3- REC voting Vedith is kinds annoying. You know it ain't gonna happen today with this players list. Get off the vanity wagon and vote one of the two main candidates, or find a third candidate who

can

be lynched today and give a good case on why they're worthy of the lynch.
4- Same goes for Volxen. Worm is self-resolving. We don't need to pursue his case today. He's not gonna make it too far as either alignment the way he plays.
5- TL also needs to stop the OMGUS. Instead, show us why you shouldn't be voted, or -at least- give us a real case other than "He's tunneling me so I'm returning the favour. That ain't gonna fly further than your own nose.

P.S. I still maintain that OK vs TL us very likely TvT, with the caveat that I don't even know TL and don't claim to be an expert on OK's meta.

Another P.S. I'm not fond of roster's catch up, but I'm willing to give him another chance. At least he's trying. Meanwhile pignash is nonexistent, and neither is volxen.

Im fine with a demon lynch but im more confident in a lich lynch.
Creature is town, Teacher is town, Worm is town, RCE, DT, Teacher are probably town.
Ez time for a d1 gamesolve

Add Rabbi and Roster to this.

You forgot Teacher as a new addition.

Who resisted my wagon Mr Monkey? Do any motivations stick out to you as worse than others?

Not until you actually provide more content. It just feels weird that 5 players defended your predecessor the way he played.

hes not even tunneling me theres no pressure involved there.

Nobody talked about pressure. In fact, if he was applying any real pressure I wouldn't have stopped him. That's why I said to either stop it or provide a real case.

@mod I will be V/LA until the weekend.

I say he needs to post more and he declares VLA.

Anyone up for a wagon here? I don't want to start a vanity wagon, but if I can find 2-3 others willing to make this a competing wagon I'm all for it.

VOTE: pignash

He has Vedith who you townread in his POE and townreads DT who is your strongest scumread - obviously your views of the gamestate are going to be fairly different but do you buy that those reads are legit?

yeah... DT is scum and you cannot convince me otherwise.

Here's 0verki11's readlist according to the ISO.

Double Town

: teacher

Town

: Creature, Dr Worm, Rabbi Vole

Probtown

: RCEnigma, DoubtingThomas, rosterfoster
POE: Vedith

Scum

: TemporalLich

Yeah this seems somewhat survivalistic.

Can Overkill confirm this to be his current readlist?

So you wouldn't mind voting pignash if needs be. Right?

A50 makes a big ass case on me, clashes with me a little bit, then a day later

NEVER REVISITS

the read on me

I scraped all his posts. He never even mentions me, but actively tries to start a wagon on low hanging frits, who are not posting and are not ready to actively defend themselves like demonlord and when the sub comes in, retreats to pignash.

Doesn't look like his scum read on me is real. Doesn't look like he is trying to really find scums. He's trying to defend Lich by shading people's scum read on him.

@Almost50, can you explain your town read of Lich?

[DoubtingThomas]

also temporal, you are so scummy right now. you might get farther if you don't post instead of trying in a futile attempt

Are you actually trying to pressure me into not posting and thus looking scummy?

You're only trying to get me lynched because you know it will benefit you and your buddies.

Even if you were town, that post is still anti-town.

VOTE: DoubtingThomas

This post has no substance. He is using a joke of me saying, "don't post" and spinning it into me being a scum that was trying to pressure him to 'reduce content' or some bull shit. Except he himself has very little content regardless of my post.

He's saying, "You are trying to get me lynched because you know it will benefit you and your buiddes" = means nothing, scums try to mislynch

"Even if you were town, that post is still anti-town" -> hasty push doesn't try to decipher whether or not i am scummy, but more focused on me 'posting a bad post'

VOTE: Dr Worm
im a n0 cop, targeted the Worm and hes red.

2. Because hes my N0 green, also its obvious that he wouldnt be this dumb as scum.

VOTE: 0verki11

Can't even keep your own "facts" straight.

votes 0verk1ll for this post? why not vote him when he was saying weird shit like "just kill lich i am cop". The logic lich used to scum read me applies more to 0verk1ll. I think lich was just self conscious of voting 0verk1ll before. I think he was low key scared that 0verk1ll was a real cop taht had scan on him and was afraid to vote him until he voted someone else (me) once

I've reread this thread trying to look for a possible scumbuddy to DT, oh boy DT looks scummy as heck. DT seems to be tunneling Almost50 even. I hate to say this but DT is a net loss for the town. If DT flips red Creature is likely red.

VOTE: DoubtingThomas

0verki11 is still a decent enough wagon, a red 0verki11 likely means a red Dr Worm and could potentially implicate a red pignash.

Summary of Lich's post:

- DT looks scummy as heck
- DT is tunneling Almost50
- DT is a net loss for town
- If DT is red, Creature is Red

literally nothing but empty words of, "DT looks scummy" (failst o explain). let's not even talk about the weird ass asscoiation of me and creature and how tunneling, being net loss for town has nothing to do with me being scum

also temporal, you are so scummy right now. you might get farther if you don't post instead of trying in a futile attempt

This comes from town.

That's not even possible.

Congrats, you're a DT associative.

Building a whole associative world around me being scum. This is not what townies do.

it is useful.. now you have one less slot to solve yw

If you're so confident you're town then fine... I'll entertain your notion for now (read: you're still scummy and lamist AF).

This post doesn't even make sense. He's playing fucking tennis with vote on me and vote on 0verk1ll lol. this is not what townies do. while voting for 0verk1ll he still has the audacity to say i am still scummy and lamist? how is being lamist even alignment indicative?

VOTE: 0verki11

266 is me explaining my read lmao, and why is me tunneling you scummy to begin with?

Tunneling is scummy because it distracts from actual information (and thus hinders town). 492 shows a willingness to town it up though, so you've moved up the list.

5- TL also needs to stop the OMGUS. Instead, show us why you shouldn't be voted, or -at least- give us a real case other than "He's tunneling me so I'm returning the favour. That ain't gonna fly further than your own nose.

P.S. I still maintain that OK vs TL us very likely TvT, with the caveat that I don't even know TL and don't claim to be an expert on OK's meta.

Yeah TL vs OK is clearly fruitless. There is a chance that Rabbi Vole gets green checked by a successful Dr Worm coaching, but for now Vole is a wagon worth wagoning. I agree it's probably TvT, Overkill actually is towning it up for once.

VOTE: Rabbi Vole

May post a readlist soon.

Votes Rabbi Vole for uh an unexplained reason? Idk what he is even trying to get across here.

LITERALLY SAYS "VOLE IS A WORTHY WAGON" while all of his game has been meaningless banter about how i am scum and others are scum associative with me LOL

Lead Rist:

[Town]

RCEnigma

Almost50

teacher

Vedith

Creature

pignash

0verki11

Rabbi Vole

volxen

rosterfoster

Dr Worm

DoubtingThomas

[Scum]

RCEnigma - The hero we need and deserve. An info goldmine and team player.

Almost50 - Despite jokingly being scum, is very good at making content.

teacher - Coldly logical and good at info, low activity.

Vedith - Towns it up despite incredibly convenient and scummy roleclaim.

Creature - Middle of the road townie according to ISO.

pignash - ISO is dry of info, but acts towny

0verki11 - Scummy AF... until RCE said the interaction with me is TvT and I found info by 0verki11.

Rabbi Vole - Seemingly towny I guess.

volxen - Lurker

rosterfoster - Please try to seem like a team player.

Dr Worm - All talk, no action. Want to see a coaching on Vole.

DoubtingThomas - Scummy AF. Unlike 0verki11 I don't believe DT could be towny.

VOTE: DoubtingThomas

Literally the most contentless full read list I've ever seen. without exaggeration. Just shows that his earlier vote on Rabbi Vole has been absolutely brainless work and he tried to 'wagon for teh sake of wagoning' like he claimed himself. atrocious

Lichy sell me on DT as scum?
If you could vig 0verki11 right now would you do it? I'm kinda craving some decisiveness in your read on him.

I would dayvig DT right this second if I could.

I would not vig 0verki11 right now, but if 0verki11 keeps acting scummy I would consider 0verki11 as a vig target (I still think TL/OK is TvT so I'm not vigging town if I can help it).

Why DT is scum and can't be cleared even with a green check from someone who flipped Full Cop (investigates for role name and alignment i.e. would know if you're a mafia godfather or townie):

111 - Scummy entry pocketing Creature

137 - Trying to pressure me into not posting

143 - Toxic much?

147 - Scummy reaction tbh

155 - DT you do realize both situations are scummy right?

159 - Hostility to everyone is not how teamwork works

160 - This might actually be WotCable

163 - I think this gave more weight to "DT is scum"

230 - Chainsaw defense

236 - Oh god the salt

239 - How is that not obvious disrespect?!

292 - More shading of me

389 - Pocketing RF

421 - LAMIST

Being toxic, 'disrespectful', 'salty', 'hostility', 'being wotcable' are non-scum points.

He is calling out random posts 'scummy' but isn't explaining why it's scummy, it is all level 0 nonsense. Feels like he fucking rng'ed my posts to call some posts scummy and point out that some posts are aggressive, but not necessary, scummy, in an attempt to make me look scummy. but oh boy this whole fucking case has literally 0 substance and if you don't see it, you are actually scum.

Almost50 saying, "he does not see why Lich is scum" probably literally comes from either

1) being scum with him
2) not reading Lich's posts.

which one is it, a50?

temporal lich is the lynch today, 100% of the time. sorry guys. this is ltierally a village idiot just screaming DT DT DT entire day phase while spamming thread with random garbage

VOTE: temporallich

[DoubtingThomas]

Why are you so angry this game?

what part of that seems angry to you?

[DoubtingThomas]

I am at the point where Lich's "scum case" on me is so contentless that it gives me a headache trying to rebute what is not there

[DoubtingThomas]

Why are you so angry this game?

this is actually a scummy post. i don't see anger in any of my posts. explain what made you think i was angry at all. maybe i am just annoyed that lich is not getting lynched already even though he is literally bleeding scum

[DoubtingThomas]

votes 0verk1ll for this post? why not vote him when he was saying weird shit like "just kill lich i am cop". The logic lich used to scum read me applies more to 0verk1ll. I think lich was just self conscious of voting 0verk1ll before. I think he was low key scared that 0verk1ll was a real cop taht had scan on him and was afraid to vote him until he voted someone else (me) once

This logic only works if you think worm is also scum.

how?

[DoubtingThomas]

i thought 0verk1ll retracted having scans at all.

did you read the rest of the case?

[DoubtingThomas]

So then you don't think Lich was afraid overkill was going to scan him. So why is his vote on overkill scummy then?

how is the two dependent on each other?

[DoubtingThomas]

his fear of 'overkill scanning him' doesn't matter to him voting overkill or not. his vote is not going to do anything.

his vote on me, then to overkill, then to me, then to overkill, the progression is not townie.

This is his post when he voted me :

Are you actually trying to pressure me into not posting and thus looking scummy?

You're only trying to get me lynched because you know it will benefit you and your buddies.

Even if you were town, that post is still anti-town.

VOTE: DoubtingThomas

He says, "You're only trying to get me lynched because you know it will benefit you and your buddies." That is exactly what 0verk1ll has done a long time before me. Yet, he didn't call 0verk1ll out on the same thing. He didn't say 0verk1ll constantly advocating for his lynch out of nowhere is "an anti-town post". He is using made up reason to vote me, but didn't vote on 0verk1ll despite him doing the same thing in a worse way in his perspective.

That's how you know his initial vote on me is bull shit

[DoubtingThomas]

Because it's literally the reason you gave for it being a scummy vote.

read the whole thing. that is 1 part of many other scum points he has against him. and i want your detailed thought on all of the points i've made.

[DoubtingThomas]

What do you think of roster?

he and i have been mindmelding a lot. i am not lynching there today

[DoubtingThomas]

Why are you so angry this game?

this is actually a scummy post. i don't see anger in any of my posts. explain what made you think i was angry at all. maybe i am just annoyed that lich is not getting lynched already even though he is literally bleeding scum

Call it what you want, just chill out a bit.
I get it's frustrating but shitting on people for their play or in general regardless doesn't help. I've done it enough in the past to know.

your opinion on my case

[DoubtingThomas]

Because it's literally the reason you gave for it being a scummy vote.

read the whole thing. that is 1 part of many other scum points he has against him. and i want your detailed thought on all of the points i've made.

Yeah I'm not doing that, I've read it and I'll keep it in mind.

If the theory he thinks overkill is cop doesn't hold up. Why do you think he decided you were the scum pushing him and not overkill?

stop mentioning 5% of the 100% of scum case i have on him

[DoubtingThomas]

rce, who are you going to vote?

[DoubtingThomas]

Yo wagoning vla town

This feels like a slip AF

[DoubtingThomas]

RCE trying to shade my case as if mine is as remotely empty as Lich's is is kind of funny

[DoubtingThomas]

I don't really think I want Rabbi lynched now.
I do want to discuss with Pignash when back though.

Can you present you case again Rooster?
Keep it small my brain is small.

whats the difference between pig and rabbi

[DoubtingThomas]

How would you feel about joining me on rosterfoster, Mr. Enigma?

dont ignore teacher's question. why is piggy town for you to say "lynching vla town"

???

[DoubtingThomas]

did pig even post

where did rabbi made you doubt he was scum

[DoubtingThomas]

worm, what do you think about lich?

[DoubtingThomas]

When we were in the back and fourth.

Did you want to follow up with this DT?

i didnt understand what you were referring to/talking about actually

[DoubtingThomas]

whats the vc

[DoubtingThomas]

EBWOP

Can someone take the time to do an actual lich case? I just dont see it. And I dont want the one sentence tunnels, but tell me a specific post that shows scum motivation? All I remember is the early claim shenanigans and it picking up steam way to easy. I think Lich's response to the claims was organic, if silly, and I can see his own mentality thoughout.

I am feeling very uninspired by this gamestate. After re-ISOing, I am still happy with my townblock, but nullreading way too many slots for a pagecount in the 20s. I am off rabbi and pignash for the time being, so willing to pressure another slot I havent felt much on. VOTE: Roster

this is the second? or third? person saying they don't understand lich vote.

i've learned from a good town player that people who come into the thread and ask why the top wagon is being wagoned means scums tmi'ing a town top wagon and hoping to make themselves look townier once the town wagoned player flips.

VOTE: teacher

[DoubtingThomas]

EBWOP

Can someone take the time to do an actual lich case? I just dont see it. And I dont want the one sentence tunnels, but tell me a specific post that shows scum motivation? All I remember is the early claim shenanigans and it picking up steam way to easy. I think Lich's response to the claims was organic, if silly, and I can see his own mentality thoughout.

I am feeling very uninspired by this gamestate. After re-ISOing, I am still happy with my townblock, but nullreading way too many slots for a pagecount in the 20s. I am off rabbi and pignash for the time being, so willing to pressure another slot I havent felt much on. VOTE: Roster

this is the second? or third? person saying they don't understand lich vote.

i've learned from a good town player that people who come into the thread and ask why the top wagon is being wagoned means scums tmi'ing a town top wagon and hoping to make themselves look townier once the town wagoned player flips.

VOTE: teacher

UNVOTE: Pignash

So why is Voxlen the wagon atm?

lol

[DoubtingThomas]

a50 whats your read on me

[DoubtingThomas]

what made you change your read on me?

[DoubtingThomas]

@mod I will be V/LA until the weekend.

I say he needs to post more and he declares VLA.

Anyone up for a wagon here? I don't want to start a vanity wagon, but if I can find 2-3 others willing to make this a competing wagon I'm all for it.

So what's the point of starting a wagon on someone who is not even here to respond to the wagon against him? And if you really are wanting to start a wagon against him, why wait for Vedith to vote for him before placing your own vote?

And like DT brought up in this post:

Spoiler:

I have Over and Almost as town for now

haha.. fooled ya

again

!

what the fuck are you saying

did you just scum slip or are you just completely incapable of recognizing what the fuck you are writing yourself?

I said I

fooled him

again. I didn't even say it was "in a game of Mafia", let alone "town reading me when I'm scum". It's not

my

fault that

you

have comprehension problems or you jump to conclusions reading something that isn't there, and if you had tried to read beyond that you'd realize I explained I can joke with Creature & RCE (specifically) without them misunderstanding.

But that's not the

only

problem here. The real issue is you're comments seem to be aiming at playing down anyone's TR on anyone. You so not want

anyone

to trust

anyone else

. You know who does that? Scum do. They want the town to keep doubting each other and keep everyone in their lynching pool. You know how town go about TRs they feel unjustified> They

ask for the reasoning

. They don't go "I'm not pleased about this" and "you are scummy so stop posting" and "did he break his meta?" (on response to a TR stated on Creature).

VOTE: DoubtingThomas

And you may scream "OMGUS" as loud as you can, cuz I don't care how it looks to you nor how you want to call it.

ME IS NO LYKE DIS SR WARM GIMMICK. HAW DOES EVERYBIDY FEEL ABOWT LINCHYNG THEM TOODAY?

I can think of at least 8 ways to kill a worm.

I can think of 3:

1- Dipping it in alcohol
2- Locking it in a can after blowing cigarette smokes in it
3- Sinking it in certain sticky liquids

That's why drinking, smoking and having lots of sex is GOOD for your health.

On a serious note though, do you think it a good idea to out a VT role, gave Worm target it (and die), and then scum shoot the new PR? I mean, IF this role is for real them he played it in the worst possible way EVER.

Man this game is going at a

snails

worm pace.

Fixed that for you, Mr President.

The best play to Worm's claim is to leave him alone for today. If he town, Scum will have to decide whether to believe him or not, amd if they do they need to decide on whether kill him or not. Anything that gives scum a headache I am good with.

defending a player is different to saying another player just tunneling without doing anything should stop, creature. you know the drill

So what are we supposed to do if we shouldn't "tunnel" anyone rn?

Obviously if you can't tunnel you need to bridge, unless you prefer to wait for the ferry.

Eh, gotta start somewhere

VOTE: demonlord

RCE, Creature and Vedith want this wagon, so who am I to argue? This is NOT me denying responsibility for the flip, btw. I am just stating my reason for voting there, but it;s MY vote and MY responsibility.

Woah, woah, woah! That changed fast! Against me! I feel that this just a scum lynch. Lynching the underdog.

No. It's a Democrats driven impeachment. Hillary's collaborating with the Chinese, North Koreans and the Mexicans (only the bad ones. The drug dealers). Oh, and -most importantly- the

CNN

is backing this all the way.

Demonlord, I meant that you probably meant that you were the one being jumped on.

I thought you meant that he probably meant that you probably meant that you smell spearmint!

Dude, post something that has to do with the game, pg you will. (Or you can relief me of all taxes and cancel my parking tickets in exchange for my vote going elsewhere. Your choice.)

???

???

^Was this still open or did I miss out?^

1- I don't understand the case on TL as of yet. Can anyone help me get why he is being wagoned?
2- Rabbi (Trump slot) is being resisted heavily by 4-5 players, and I can't see them all being town. If giving the replacement slack was the idea, I don't see why it was resisted by so many BEFORE the replacement took place.
3- REC voting Vedith is kinds annoying. You know it ain't gonna happen today with this players list. Get off the vanity wagon and vote one of the two main candidates, or find a third candidate who

can

be lynched today and give a good case on why they're worthy of the lynch.
4- Same goes for Volxen. Worm is self-resolving. We don't need to pursue his case today. He's not gonna make it too far as either alignment the way he plays.
5- TL also needs to stop the OMGUS. Instead, show us why you shouldn't be voted, or -at least- give us a real case other than "He's tunneling me so I'm returning the favour. That ain't gonna fly further than your own nose.

P.S. I still maintain that OK vs TL us very likely TvT, with the caveat that I don't even know TL and don't claim to be an expert on OK's meta.

Another P.S. I'm not fond of roster's catch up, but I'm willing to give him another chance. At least he's trying. Meanwhile pignash is nonexistent, and neither is volxen.

Im fine with a demon lynch but im more confident in a lich lynch.
Creature is town, Teacher is town, Worm is town, RCE, DT, Teacher are probably town.
Ez time for a d1 gamesolve

Add Rabbi and Roster to this.

You forgot Teacher as a new addition.

Who resisted my wagon Mr Monkey? Do any motivations stick out to you as worse than others?

Not until you actually provide more content. It just feels weird that 5 players defended your predecessor the way he played.

hes not even tunneling me theres no pressure involved there.

Nobody talked about pressure. In fact, if he was applying any real pressure I wouldn't have stopped him. That's why I said to either stop it or provide a real case.

@mod I will be V/LA until the weekend.

I say he needs to post more and he declares VLA.

Anyone up for a wagon here? I don't want to start a vanity wagon, but if I can find 2-3 others willing to make this a competing wagon I'm all for it.

VOTE: pignash

He has Vedith who you townread in his POE and townreads DT who is your strongest scumread - obviously your views of the gamestate are going to be fairly different but do you buy that those reads are legit?

yeah... DT is scum and you cannot convince me otherwise.

Here's 0verki11's readlist according to the ISO.

Double Town

: teacher

Town

: Creature, Dr Worm, Rabbi Vole

Probtown

: RCEnigma, DoubtingThomas, rosterfoster
POE: Vedith

Scum

: TemporalLich

Yeah this seems somewhat survivalistic.

Can Overkill confirm this to be his current readlist?

So you wouldn't mind voting pignash if needs be. Right?

A50 makes a big ass case on me, clashes with me a little bit, then a day later

NEVER REVISITS

the read on me

I scraped all his posts. He never even mentions me, but actively tries to start a wagon on low hanging frits, who are not posting and are not ready to actively defend themselves like demonlord and when the sub comes in, retreats to pignash.

Doesn't look like his scum read on me is real. Doesn't look like he is trying to really find scums. He's trying to defend Lich by shading people's scum read on him.

@Almost50, can you explain your town read of Lich?

Your transitions don't really make sense since they were never explained. First you voted for DT and made a case against him, at one point going so far as to agree with DT when he said that either you or him should be the day one lynch (see: post 161). Then you voted for Demonlord (Rabbi Vole) (see: post 303), and now you want to wagon Pignash. Why did you abandon your original push against DT?

What do you think about this post? How does it affect your read on volxen?

[DoubtingThomas]

Last I checked, I was null on volxen and has town read on roster for mindmedling a lot with me, which is admittedly, weak.

Given this, I should say, as of right now, I will vote volxen if it is strictly between the two, but volxen lynch doesn't give us too much to work with. I kinda hope/expected him to post more, but Idk why he isn't being replaced?

What makes me be wary of the volxen wagon is how non-resistant it is. Seems like everyone's okay with it and doesn't really have a strong reason to think he is scum. If someone can explain their scum read on volxen, that'd be great -- aside from activity.

@ A50, who do you prefer, and why?

[DoubtingThomas]

Also why were so many people resistant to TemporalLich wagon? Like teacher who scummily came in and said, "I don't get this wagon" We've seen a lot of those.

[DoubtingThomas]

Whats my connection with RF?

[DoubtingThomas]

Whats my connection with RF?

378 and 379 suggest RF trying to make DT look like town.

389 (from DT) suggests either buddying or townblocking.

409 I actually responded to with "Wow you are not trying to hide a DT/RF scumteam." This of course could be townblocking, but given that both you and RF are scummy, I'm going with buddying.

It's a tenuous connection that relies on you or RF flipping red.

I thought you were town reading me now

Also, you think scum teammates will try to so-obviously-buddybuddy in the thread like that?

[DoubtingThomas]

I think the way both RF and I were townreading each other almost never comes from w/w

[DoubtingThomas]

Lich, I will give you that you are a lot townier now. The problem is, it seems so different from your game d1, i feel like it's more likely to come from a scum trying to up his game after being pushed to possibly be lynched d1. what do you think about that

[DoubtingThomas]

Why is DT defending Lich again?

what do you think abotu this post, lich.

also i am not sure where creature's head is, and usually i do know

[DoubtingThomas]

{RV}
{pignash}
{A50, 0verki11}
{TemporalLich, rosterfoster, Creature}
{Dr Worm}
{Vedith, DoubtingThomas}
{teacher}
{}
{}

this feels eehh but my energies have been focused elsewhere so it's not surprising that I don't love it

you think i make a scum read on teacher like that as partners?

[DoubtingThomas]

roster what's your read on me

[DoubtingThomas]

\o/

die

[DoubtingThomas]

is that a 3p claim

[DoubtingThomas]

DT You're town. What do you think about Creature? He's kind of been just saying shit and not particularly contributing, but I'm not feeling scum from it for some reason.

i don't feel like i am the best at reading creatue anymre, but town creature feels like he'd have more input into solving the game. unless he's trying to change up his meta on purpose. i don't really town read him rn

p.s. what's your favorite letter

[DoubtingThomas]

Yes im jester \o/

"I claim scum \o/"

[DoubtingThomas]

Vedith, you are Donald Trump's son?

[DoubtingThomas]

Ongoing games. Apart from that, none.

Pedit: J

Also can we all just appreciate the TL is scum.

who are your scum reads

[DoubtingThomas]

Creature why don't you obv town anymore. if it's to make your scum game stronger, i disapprove it heavily

[DoubtingThomas]

i veto that lynch

[DoubtingThomas]

what did you mean by i need to read more rabbi

[DoubtingThomas]

I think DT is Scum can we lynch there?

why is DT scum friend

because DT (Donald Trump) is his daddy

[DoubtingThomas]

veidth you and i have 106 posts each with me making this post !!! \o/

[DoubtingThomas]

I think DT is Scum can we lynch there?

Nah

can u enlighten me with your reads list

[DoubtingThomas]

so do i! \o/

[DoubtingThomas]

Creature I will town read you if you surpass our post count \o/

[DoubtingThomas]

0verkill RCE and Almost 50 all have 77 posts \o/

the 77 club

[DoubtingThomas]

That won't happen because creature is Scum \o/

his alignment doesn't change my read on him \o/

[DoubtingThomas]

Creature I will town read you if you surpass our post count \o/

I do it naturally. Forcing me will just lead to "oh noes creature's artificially rising his postcount"

this wasn't ur response last time i said this to you, tbh

VOTE: creature

[DoubtingThomas]

oh and yeah he was town there

[DoubtingThomas]

Creature I will town read you if you surpass our post count \o/

I do it naturally. Forcing me will just lead to "oh noes creature's artificially rising his postcount"

this wasn't ur response last time i said this to you, tbh

VOTE: creature

and you expect me to search my previous games just to copypaste whatever I said last time?

yikes post

[DoubtingThomas]

why would you claim. if you flip we will see your role anyways

[DoubtingThomas]

creature ???posting triggers me

???

why cant scum creature post this kind of shit

[DoubtingThomas]

i am not really saying it's a tell. i amsaying his posting is subpar which i expect more from scum creats to do

[DoubtingThomas]

rabbi, i know who you are

[DoubtingThomas]

wait actually?

[DoubtingThomas]

you play in mafia universe?

[DoubtingThomas]

give me a hint rabbi

[DoubtingThomas]

only a handful would call me charismatic from mafia universe

what do you think of my play in general rabbi

[DoubtingThomas]

how many games did you play with me

[DoubtingThomas]

i'll give you town lean for rating me really well tho <3

[DoubtingThomas]

I think DT is Scum can we lynch there?

Nah

can u enlighten me with your reads list

Town:
Rabbi
pignash
teacher
A50
Dr Worm
me

Scummietubbies:
roosterfoster
TemporalLich

Leftovers:
You
Overkill
Vedith

why did you say nah to my lynch if you only have me as a null read

[DoubtingThomas]

are you shortaru

[DoubtingThomas]

can u explain ur read on me this game

[DoubtingThomas]

who is templeach? teacher?

[DoubtingThomas]

vedith is town

[DoubtingThomas]

teacher ur read on me?

[DoubtingThomas]

i am surprised so many people have me null

[DoubtingThomas]

They usually love me or hate me. Not so often are there betweens

[DoubtingThomas]

Hmmm..

rosterfoster (4): Temporal Lich, Almost50, teacher, Vedith,

This is now looking more and more appealing. It looks to me that it's an all town wagon (I had reservations/doubts about Vedith earlier)

Can we get a Creature to vote with us? Would a Rabbi do? I'm sure pignash will follow. At least put roster @L-1 and let's get a claim.

what changed for you to town read vedith now?

[DoubtingThomas]

i have something to say before roster is hammered so don't hammer him until i come back. i wanna wait til he claims tho

[DoubtingThomas]

i think you should claim

[DoubtingThomas]

Doctor gg ez im dead tommorow

I am doctor i cc

[DoubtingThomas]

Doctor gg ez im dead tommorow

I feel that’s a town claim by Overkill.

Teacher, I understand that this is not necessarily a town role - DT said he would think it’s roughly 50/50 in our PT last night so I was pleasantly surprised by the amount of trust in me.

I can see the case for Rabii scum. I suspect the puppet dies if Rabii dies, although saying that the puppet has no role pm makes me think that lunching the puppet would not give us any more information, so we must lynch Rabii instead if we’re testing that.

I claimed doc in pt and u think that claim is a town claim? How

[DoubtingThomas]

VOTE: 0verk1ll

[DoubtingThomas]

aw man i should have healed the monkey

[DoubtingThomas]

i cant target every night...

[DoubtingThomas]

why the hell would i out who i targetted last night? i cant heal two days in a row. that allows scums to get an ensured kill the next night. fucking use ur brains pls

[DoubtingThomas]

what do you mean why i didnt full claim? i claimed doctor literally before d2 even started

[DoubtingThomas]

also creature probably thinking i am scum with over of all people is prob scum claim

[DoubtingThomas]

because creature knows i spew my partners really hard. i have like no interaction with over at all. for him to think i am scum with over over people like roster is just a scum claim

[DoubtingThomas]

you can't consecutively save in mafia universe. thought that was default as doc. lol

[DoubtingThomas]

ok well i cant

[DoubtingThomas]

also i wont out who i healed the day after because it just helps the mafias kill someone for sure now.

can someone summarize all the claims just so i can have a better idea of who to heal? tbh

[DoubtingThomas]

just stop role fishing. it's tilting me

[DoubtingThomas]

you are basically saying you are helping mafias get perfect information so that they can kill around town powers just because "it's crystal clear"


???????

[DoubtingThomas]

kill that vig, tbh

[DoubtingThomas]

you are constantly asking me to claim more about my doctor role. you are asking who i healed last night. things like that help mafia tremendously. i categorized all of those actions under the umbrella term, 'role fishing'

[DoubtingThomas]

lol roster are you scum?

[DoubtingThomas]

not really why do you say that?

[DoubtingThomas]

if i was scum i dont think i tell you to claim on d1 nor not kill you on n2 after telling you to claim. you claiming there helped you live that day. you think that was scum motivated?

[DoubtingThomas]

whos the obvious person

[DoubtingThomas]

And whom to heal should be crystal clear to everyone paying attention...

the crystal clear person

[DoubtingThomas]

breature

[DoubtingThomas]

was thinking how likely would scum!you CC your scumbuddy enough to make him change his claim, but you're saying it's very likely apparently.

you think i would cc 0verk1ll and make him retract his doc claim and let that be like the only interaction i have with him in the whole game as his teammate?

i dont think you believe this

[DoubtingThomas]

that being said i forgot it was 0verk1ll who fake claimed doc. yeah that was really bad of him. might vote there nonetheless

[DoubtingThomas]

i need a vote count pls

@ mod

[DoubtingThomas]

VOTE: creature

[DoubtingThomas]

"i am a doc" is sketchy?

[DoubtingThomas]

so you think a town alignment has no doctor related role? that i am mafia doctor?

lmfao

[DoubtingThomas]

DoubtingThomas (The successful NK on teacher makes your doc claim a fake claim, likely scum. Acting scummy lately fwiw)

Or it means I healed teacher last night and couldn't heal him again so I wanted to keep who I healed low key

[DoubtingThomas]

My full claim is Radioactive Doctor.

I can heal someone. Then if I target anyone the second time (doesn't have to be consecutive), they die instead.

So, that's why I said I can't heal consecutively.

This is never a scum role in this situation