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I'm happy to share reasoning, I just thought I'd check for a reaction from ryan first.
Anyway, I think its a load of crap to be even thinking of a jester at this stage. Honestly, it looks like you're trying to set a precedent for scummy behavior to be left alone, fearing a jester. You should be voting the person you feel is scummiest, not worrying about whether they are "trying" to be scummy.(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
(11:04:19 PM) senspizzaline: Miami finishes 2nd in the AFCE.
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aioqwe wrote:
I'm so newb just making a jokeMr_Gnome_It_All wrote:
It's hardly new... Check my joined date. People have been shortening it to just gnome since my first game.aioqwe wrote:that's your new name mr gnome it all...
I support sensfan's vote. However, I want to see his reason. Ryan in my eyes has responded enough. Until you present the evidence against him.Major FoS: aioqwe, read post 32. More importantly, why would you support my vote if you didn't know the reasoning?-
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You, sir, are right. I am terribly sorry, I was working under the completely ridiculous assumption that perhaps he was a scum, trying to look too scummy, digging for the reaction you had to his post. How I failed to realize that scum are by definition stupid, and will only be SOMEWHAT scummy, not overly scummy. Furthermore, his join date is so obviously misleading, and he cannot be a newb, so I'm wrong on that account as well. Boy, I sure am pretty poor at this game, what with expecting scum to be dumb, and everyone to always play perfectly, never making mistakes.
Again, my apologies. I see now that him being a jester is, in fact, a given. I would vote for him, if it weren't for the fact that I was so humbled by your amazing arguments that I've currently forgotten how to change my vote.(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
(11:04:19 PM) senspizzaline: Miami finishes 2nd in the AFCE.
(11:05:35 PM) jhawk01b: my bold prediction for the year is that whoever wins the NFC West will have a winning record-
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I'm not narrow-minded at all. In fact, I'm rather open-minded to ideas and all, but this is just too much. I severely doubt that a jester would be so mind-bogglingly obvious about trying to get lynched, and think it even less likely that there is a jester in this game. Jester is a role that is practically bastard-modding in and of itself, and I strongly doubt the mod would put one in a mini. I would equate the chance of there being a Jester to the odds that the Maple Leafs win the Stanley Cup this year. To be honest, I'm willing to lynch the scummiest player, every day, and risk losing to a Jester. I've probably played in 20+ games on this site, and have read even more. Guess how many games I know of have been lost by the lynching of a jester? If you picked 1, you guessed too high...(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
(11:04:19 PM) senspizzaline: Miami finishes 2nd in the AFCE.
(11:05:35 PM) jhawk01b: my bold prediction for the year is that whoever wins the NFC West will have a winning record-
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I fail to see why you are concerned about the possibility of a Jester. With every lynch the town makes, there is a chance of losing to a jester. Guess what, there is almost never talk of a jester. It looks to me like you want to have an "out" from voting the player that is scummiest.
As for the role claims, I would assume he is just either being comedic, or being dumb. This is, early day 1, after all. Normally, I would be making funny posts, too, but I happened to see something you posted, and it looked very suspicious.(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
(11:04:19 PM) senspizzaline: Miami finishes 2nd in the AFCE.
(11:05:35 PM) jhawk01b: my bold prediction for the year is that whoever wins the NFC West will have a winning record-
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No, that's perfectly normal behavior. Attributing it to a rare, bastard-moddy, overly-scummy role right off the bat rubbed me the wrong way.(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
(11:04:19 PM) senspizzaline: Miami finishes 2nd in the AFCE.
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Just to clarify, the vote is because you feel I'm being too adamant in my attack on ryan, correct?(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
(11:04:19 PM) senspizzaline: Miami finishes 2nd in the AFCE.
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Joubert, you say Jesters DO exist. As I said a few posts back, I've played over 20 games on MS, likely read about 30 more. Never have I seen a Jester.(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
(11:04:19 PM) senspizzaline: Miami finishes 2nd in the AFCE.
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If you're implying that I "sat back", I would disagree quite a bit. I accused you on page 1.ryan wrote:
I can't link it (because it's ongoing) but a current game I'm modding HAS a jester in it, they are not that uncommon. Also I never said that we couldn't have scum pretending to be a jester but to do it that early I found strange and didn't put much weight into it. Scum normally sit back and let the town pick eachother off and than they swoop in when they find something somewhat questionable and take it up a notch and paint that townie to be scum.............hmmm that sounds familiar doesn't it SensFan?SensFan wrote:Joubert, you say Jesters DO exist. As I said a few posts back, I've played over 20 games on MS, likely read about 30 more. Never have I seen a Jester.
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I see what you did there.ryan wrote:Yes an accusation on Page 1..........BRILLIANT approach.
You first claimed it is a scummy move to sit back, and then attack a townie. Then you accused me of being scummy for launching an attack on you page 1 when I saw something scummy.
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Going by your join date, you are a pretty experienced player, and you know better than to choose a target to latch on to, and then find reasons that person would be scum. Unless, of course, you know I'm not scum...ryan wrote:
I don't know SensFan, what are you currently doing?SensFan wrote: So, which is it? Do scum attack early in the day, or sit back and wait?-
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Vicious?
When you get around to doing your readthough, mind explaining that a little bit more?(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
(11:04:19 PM) senspizzaline: Miami finishes 2nd in the AFCE.
(11:05:35 PM) jhawk01b: my bold prediction for the year is that whoever wins the NFC West will have a winning record-
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Post Restriction. It's when the mod gives you a role, but includes a restriction or quota that you have to fill in your posts. Failure to comply usually results in modkill.(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
(11:04:19 PM) senspizzaline: Miami finishes 2nd in the AFCE.
(11:05:35 PM) jhawk01b: my bold prediction for the year is that whoever wins the NFC West will have a winning record-
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Good post. While I have no issues with most of what you said, I thought I'd clear up that last point. As I said (you may have missed it), the vote it because I felt it was quite scummy of ryan to be worried so much about a possible jester on page 1 that he wasn't voting the person he found scummiest.
Just one question: Do you see ryan and I as being possible buddies, or one (and only one) of us being scum?(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
(11:04:19 PM) senspizzaline: Miami finishes 2nd in the AFCE.
(11:05:35 PM) jhawk01b: my bold prediction for the year is that whoever wins the NFC West will have a winning record-
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Alright, thanks vIQ.
Oh, and I'm not "responding" to your points against me, as I see them more as small notes to look back on later. Correct me if I'm wrong, or there;s something in particular you want me to address.(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
(11:04:19 PM) senspizzaline: Miami finishes 2nd in the AFCE.
(11:05:35 PM) jhawk01b: my bold prediction for the year is that whoever wins the NFC West will have a winning record-
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I notice that you want us to mass-claim, while conveniently not putting yourself down for a role.(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
(11:04:19 PM) senspizzaline: Miami finishes 2nd in the AFCE.
(11:05:35 PM) jhawk01b: my bold prediction for the year is that whoever wins the NFC West will have a winning record-
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Alright, so you want us to claim whether GS correctly labeled our role?Lloyd wrote:So we have a semi-smalltown setup...
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Anyone want to confirm my hunch above?
Or not...Lloyd wrote:With that said...I'd rather not mass claim unless you can convince me that it would significantly benefit our town.-
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If you read the context of the post you quoted, you would see that he asked GS to give the Town info through his claims.(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
(11:04:19 PM) senspizzaline: Miami finishes 2nd in the AFCE.
(11:05:35 PM) jhawk01b: my bold prediction for the year is that whoever wins the NFC West will have a winning record-
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The only time I have talked to/about ryan since Sunday is when he not only appeared not to read the context of a quote, but then randomly accused me of being scum for no real reason, while STILL not going back to read. Even then, I only pointed out what what previously posted, not attacking ryan at all.(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
(11:04:19 PM) senspizzaline: Miami finishes 2nd in the AFCE.
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GS:
If you can do anything other than claim, put the name of a player in this game in your next post.
If you must only claim, but can choose your claim, claim something beginning with any letter other than [A/B/C/D/E/F/G/H/I/J/K/L/N/O/P/Q/R/S/T/U/V/W/X/Y/Z] in your next post.
If you can only claim, and have no choice on the claim, do not comply with either of the above statements in your next post.-
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I don't want any discussion on my post until after he claims. I'll explain why afterwards, but I have a good reason.(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
(11:04:19 PM) senspizzaline: Miami finishes 2nd in the AFCE.
(11:05:35 PM) jhawk01b: my bold prediction for the year is that whoever wins the NFC West will have a winning record-
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ryan - Well, according to my form of questioning, GS showed that he could only claim, and had no choice as to what he could claim. I even phrased it in such a way that I never gave him any specifics on what to claim.
Unity - A Cult Leader chooses someone to recruit every night. Anyone recruited becomes pro-Cult instead of pro-Town. If the majority of the living people are pro-Cult, the Cult wins.-
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I have no experience with Cults, and so am not getting Rosso's pseudo-claim...(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
(11:04:19 PM) senspizzaline: Miami finishes 2nd in the AFCE.
(11:05:35 PM) jhawk01b: my bold prediction for the year is that whoever wins the NFC West will have a winning record-
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Well, I still haven't clued on to any claim you made.(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
(11:04:19 PM) senspizzaline: Miami finishes 2nd in the AFCE.
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In addition to any other requests made:aioqwe wrote:Personally I want a post from GS indicating whether we are supposed to make something from his posts
GS, if you are giving us information with your posts, your next post should contain anything but an even number of words.
GS, if you are not giving us information with your posts, your next post should contain anything but an odd number of words.-
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*sigh*
Well, never mind that last request, then.
FoS: armlxfor assuming I have no reason for phrasing them like I did.
So yeah, I will not be taking any information from the number of words in GS' next post.(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
(11:04:19 PM) senspizzaline: Miami finishes 2nd in the AFCE.
(11:05:35 PM) jhawk01b: my bold prediction for the year is that whoever wins the NFC West will have a winning record-
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I can't make head's or tails of those letters, what about the rest of you?Greasy Spot's capital letters wrote:CNUSVRPEOO
GS:
If we are supposed to find information in your posts, please let your next post have anything but an odd number of words.
If we are not supposed to find information in your posts, please let your next post have anything but an even number of words.
If the letters I quoted have relevance to the player names, please begin your next post with any letter other than [A/B/C/D/E/F/G/H/I/K/L/M/N/O/P/Q/R/S/T/U/V/W/X/Y/Z]
If the letters I quoted have relevance to the role names, please begin your next post with any letter other than [A/B/C/D/E/F/G/H/I/J/K/L/N/O/P/Q/R/S/T/U/V/W/X/Y/Z]
If the letters I quoted have relevance to something else, please begin your next post with any letter other than [A/B/C/D/E/F/G/H/I/J/K/L/M/N/O/P/Q/R/S/U/V/W/X/Y/Z]
If the letters I quoted have no relevance, please begin your next post with any letter other than [B/C/D/E/F/G/H/I/J/K/L/M/N/O/P/Q/R/S/T/U/V/W/X/Y/Z]
I wantother requests of GS, or discussion of my request until he has posted. Thanks.NO-
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Unity:
I repeat, it is IMPERATIVE that no one else makes any requests to GS, or SO MUCH AS MENTIONS my last post until GS has posted.SensFan wrote:*sigh*
Well, never mind that last request, then.
FoS: armlxfor assuming I have no reason for phrasing them like I did.
So yeah, I will not be taking any information from the number of words in GS' next post.-
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Well, according to that post, GS has no information in his posts, including the capital letters...
ryan, since GS has now posted, want to elaborate?(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
(11:04:19 PM) senspizzaline: Miami finishes 2nd in the AFCE.
(11:05:35 PM) jhawk01b: my bold prediction for the year is that whoever wins the NFC West will have a winning record-
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You asked for clarification on what I meant by "Town". I meant exactly what armlx said. If you want my own words, than by Town I mean "Any person currently alive, that is part of the town of Vegas. Alignment has no relation with regards to who makes up the Town."(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
(11:04:19 PM) senspizzaline: Miami finishes 2nd in the AFCE.
(11:05:35 PM) jhawk01b: my bold prediction for the year is that whoever wins the NFC West will have a winning record-
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Yeah, in all the cult talks I had forgot about my vote on ryan, but his recent behaviour has really bothered me. Happy with my vote right now.(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
(11:04:19 PM) senspizzaline: Miami finishes 2nd in the AFCE.
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Not sure about that part. Presumably, everyone will claim to be Town, and so it seems pointless, unless you are trying to reinforce the message for some reason. One possible reason would be that you are scum trying too hard to blend in. It's far from a strong tell, but I still think it can be a weak indication.ryan wrote:Claiming you are town isn't a scumtell.-
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Greasy Spot:
If you are calling BS on ryan's claim, let your next post have anything but capital letters.
If you are giving some other sort of information, let your next post have anything but lower-case letters.
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Holy crap, ryan, I don't think I've ever seen worse pro-Town play, if indeed you are Town.
You have a duty to do the best you can for your alliance. Unless you are Jester or Scum, speeding up your lynch will not help the Town in any way. Therefore, a Town member should never purposely get themselves killed.-
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For the record, I do not want to see anyone unvoting ryan due to his recent, erratic, behaviour.(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
(11:04:19 PM) senspizzaline: Miami finishes 2nd in the AFCE.
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Comments in bold.Joubert wrote:
What's that? You think you can decide that on-the-fly? This affirmation alone makes you suspicious...SensFan wrote:For the record, I do not want to see anyone unvoting ryan due to his recent, erratic, behaviour.
I am stating my personal opinion. I didn't want anyone taking the bait ryan put out there.
SensFan, about the posts from GS you quoted, do you realize that if GS is Scum, of course he will answer your plead. To cause Ryan to be lynched. OR, GS is even more PRed than we think. OR, he's a bad Town player. OR, etc...
I'll take a 1-for-1 Townie:Scum trade ANY day.-
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So you're reading the short one, but still managed to pop in here as soon as your name was mentioned?Battle Mage wrote:
see previous post. I replaced into 2 games simultaneously, and i decided rather than confuse myself by reading both at the same time, ill read the shortest one first, and then carry on with this one. I would say this game requires a fair bit more logical thought.Lloyd wrote:BattleMage usually posts more frequently.
That's odd that he's continuing Mr_Gnome_It_All's pace of posting infrequently in this game.
BM(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
(11:04:19 PM) senspizzaline: Miami finishes 2nd in the AFCE.
(11:05:35 PM) jhawk01b: my bold prediction for the year is that whoever wins the NFC West will have a winning record-
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aioqwe, are you actually saying you think its realistic that there is both a scumgroup AND a cult in a Mini?
FoS: aioqwe(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
(11:04:19 PM) senspizzaline: Miami finishes 2nd in the AFCE.
(11:05:35 PM) jhawk01b: my bold prediction for the year is that whoever wins the NFC West will have a winning record-
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Because that is absolutely ridiculous. A 12-person game with (at least) 2 scums AND a Cult Leader is probably the most broken game I've ever heard of. The Town stands no chance whatsoever.
It sounds to me like you are trying to defend RC.(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
(11:04:19 PM) senspizzaline: Miami finishes 2nd in the AFCE.
(11:05:35 PM) jhawk01b: my bold prediction for the year is that whoever wins the NFC West will have a winning record-
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On top of everything else, that really sealed it for me. Not only is his role improbable, but now he's suggesting we have a bastard mod?Rosso Carne wrote:im gonna get really pissed if this turned out to be a damn bastard mod role.
Vote: RC(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
(11:04:19 PM) senspizzaline: Miami finishes 2nd in the AFCE.
(11:05:35 PM) jhawk01b: my bold prediction for the year is that whoever wins the NFC West will have a winning record-
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Emphasis mine.pete d wrote:6. armlx, Surveillance System, Tracker,Night 1stuffed full of straw
4. Unity,, torn to pieces Night 1Scarecrow Goon
Are you still actually implying that the straw relates to a Cult?(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
(11:04:19 PM) senspizzaline: Miami finishes 2nd in the AFCE.
(11:05:35 PM) jhawk01b: my bold prediction for the year is that whoever wins the NFC West will have a winning record-
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BM, just in case you didn't notice, he has almost 2 years here at MS...(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
(11:04:19 PM) senspizzaline: Miami finishes 2nd in the AFCE.
(11:05:35 PM) jhawk01b: my bold prediction for the year is that whoever wins the NFC West will have a winning record-
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