Happy to replace in. I'll be reading tomorrow. Can someone give me a summary so far? Thanks!
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^^TownIn post 2405, nancy wrote:Y'all should probably just lynch me btw cause I guarantee I will fuck up LyLo.I have officially retired this account. My new account is Virtuoso.-
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Using this to form a town bloc and list off some of claims (these are for my notes)In post 2365, Fro99er wrote:Sheep and MBG are scum
MBG claimed jailkeeper
RC claimed BP
Gerry was lynched as cop D1
Rauth is backup cop who has an innocent on RC
Jar Jar got lynched D2 as scum goon
I'm VT, Sheep is VT, Nancy is VT. Might be a couple other VTs i'm missing.
I strongly think Uzi is town.
Rautherdir - Universal backup
RadiantCowbells - Bulletproof. Confirmed innocent by cop
mattblackguy - Jailkeeper
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Cooperative Sheep
I am going through the vote count for a VCA. For now, I'm treating rauth and MBG as confirmed town. I have a fairly strong TR on KS and Fro99er. I'm 75% confident that nancy is town (see above). I'm now looking through the rest of the players.I have officially retired this account. My new account is Virtuoso.-
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Ah sorry. Thanks for the correction.In post 2408, Rautherdir wrote:What? No, I'm a backup cop, not Universal BackupI have officially retired this account. My new account is Virtuoso.-
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From VCA, I believe he could be town. He was the counter wagon to jar jar, who flipped scum. Scum may have tried to derail JarJar's lynch by moving it to LUVIn post 2417, Fro99er wrote:Uzi is still townI have officially retired this account. My new account is Virtuoso.-
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True. Sheep/Jar were both on the Nancy wagon, which I think is/was extremely opportunistic.In post 2424, RadiantCowbells wrote:Like the only person who could really have been pushing a counterwagon is Cooperative Sheep. It stands to reason that at least one scum is bussing, possibly two.I have officially retired this account. My new account is Virtuoso.-
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JarJarDrinks - Akarin (my slot), Grendel, Lil Uzi Vert, nancy,In post 2426, RadiantCowbells wrote:Thing is though this is a daytalk game. We know that at least 1 scum is probably bussing; it doesn't seem at all strange to me to suggest that if one scum was gonna bus they'd both want to hop on.Rautherdir, Fro99er
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What's the case against mbg? Why would you prefer to lynch him over anyone else?In post 2455, Fro99er wrote:
so do I but everyone's afraid to lynch the jailkeeperIn post 2453, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I can get down with that but I'd prefer MBG to be honest.I have officially retired this account. My new account is Virtuoso.-
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Did rauth claim to have gotten roleblocked?In post 2460, Fro99er wrote:the reason there was no NK isn't because matt jailed rauth.
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Just speculating, but what if it were 3 goons vs bp/cop/backup cop/JK? That would appear to make the game far too town sided.In post 2467, RadiantCowbells wrote:I claim that goon/goon/roleblocker vs bp/cop/backup cop is scum sided to the point of being unpassable. I would never pass it. Mykonian would not have.
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I believe Rauth's claim. I really don't think scum would fake claim that and out an innocent result. Though yet again, I did just complete a game where scum claimed vengeful, so...In post 2470, RadiantCowbells wrote:If there is then MBG can reenter consideration and that's why I support Cooperative Sheep's call for a massclaim. But as is the only PR that could be fakeclaiming is Rautherdir and that would require a 3 goon scumteam or goon/jacked mafia PR.I have officially retired this account. My new account is Virtuoso.-
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Bull fucking shitIn post 2488, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I'm a Town Motion Dectector. I targeted Jar N1 and I targeted Anakrin's slot N2.
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Scum slip.In post 2496, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
Both didn't perform an action or have one performed on them. That's why I initially doubted my read on Jar going into D2.In post 2494, Fro99er wrote:
Did you see anything N1 or N2?In post 2488, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I'm a Town Motion Dectector. I targeted Jar N1 and I targeted Anakrin's slot N2.
If you are a motion detector, you would know that a motion detector doesn't know what actions that player performed. The fact that you don't know this shows that your claim is bull shit.The Motion Detector learns if any actions were performed by or on a player, but not what they were, or who else was involved.I have officially retired this account. My new account is Virtuoso.-
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Perhaps I'm not understanding the motion detector role correctly. Had he targeted the back up cop, wouldn't he have gotten a jailkeeper result if MBG is being honest about his claim and assuming that he visited rauth?In post 2515, RadiantCowbells wrote:WHY WOULD HE EVER USE IT ON THE CLAIMED BACK UP COP W T F
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Someone help me understand what a motion detector does and what results he would get. If a motion detector visits a someone and that person is visited by a JK, for example, wouldn't his results say that person X was visited by a Jk?I have officially retired this account. My new account is Virtuoso.-
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Got it. Sorry I misunderstood the wiki.In post 2526, Fro99er wrote:NO
it would just say "an action was performed on or by your target"
not what that action was.
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Why are you confident he is scum and why are you shoving a claimed JK lynch down our throats? Wouldn't it be better for it to be resolved at night? If mbg is a JK, then he will get night killed.In post 2563, Fro99er wrote:I've done a shit ton of legwork to show it.
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My confusion there was mixing up motion detector with voyer. Not sure that is AI.
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I agree that it is impossible to have 5 PRs. If MBG flips town, we lynch LUV tomorrow. No questions asked. The question is who is the better lynch?In post 2806, Fro99er wrote:Keyser that should be obvious.
We can't have those 5 town PRs unless site meta has changed to make town OP. It's unlikely Rauth is scum, and so it's either Uzi or MBG. By POE from Uzi's POV it's MBG.I have officially retired this account. My new account is Virtuoso.-
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In post 2875, Cooperative Sheep wrote:ThinkBig.In post 2876, RadiantCowbells wrote:ThinkMedium
ThinkMicroscopicIn post 2877, Cooperative Sheep wrote:ThinkPetite
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My wiki page has most of my town games and all my scum games on it. I need to update my wiki with a few more games once they're complete.In post 2892, nancy wrote: ThinkBig, I want to believe you are Town so could you please link me to any/all Town games where you push a scumslip?I have officially retired this account. My new account is Virtuoso.-
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I do not support a no lynch. The only time town should consider no lynching is when we are in MyLo without any clear town/scum reads. Let's say we no lynch and you are killed, what information do we learn? Nothing. We are a few days from MyLo/LyLo.In post 2894, Rautherdir wrote:Prodge. I seriously want a no lynch today, and I'm not sure anyone else is receptive to that.I have officially retired this account. My new account is Virtuoso.-
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EeeeewIn post 3013, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:Do you still have a vest or not?
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We lynch Gin today, no questions asked, MBG jails me tonight, you cop me tonight. Sound like a good plan moving forward?In post 3502, RadiantCowbells wrote:Could be. Town seems pretty ridiculously jacked atm.
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No. You unvoted.In post 3590, RadiantCowbells wrote:is gin at l-1 yet?I have officially retired this account. My new account is Virtuoso.-
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It's sorcery. Pure sorcery. Pine is a witch that must be hanged and burned!In post 3602, nancy wrote:WHAT PINE HAS A NEW AVATAR WHAT IS THISI have officially retired this account. My new account is Virtuoso.-
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^Flailing scum is flailing.In post 3606, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:Oh I'm sorry, I didn't know someone could claim cop D1 and not eat the bullet over a vanilla townie. Then when the real cop is actually lynched, claims BP and coasts along BECAUSE OF A FAKE TOWN CLEAR. Everyone ate that shit up and haven't payed a damned clue about it. Now, we have me, were she does her fake claims on who she thinks are scum, and pushes them through. She says she's never gotten them wrong but Spryo Mini she tried that shit on me and literally pushed my lynch even when she grew to think I was town. Matt, nor I died last night and that goes to show that neither of them wanted a power player to die because it incriminates the ones that are actually living. Now after claiming cop, then BP, then back up cop which she condemned with a passion the other day in the set up spec, RC goes ahead and uses it to push a lynch. It's bullshit.
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That is a good point. Ugh I'm starting to get paranoid of RC. Wouldn't it make sense for her to immediately CC the fake backup claim? I'm gonna sleep on this someIn post 3641, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:Deadass, RC "scum read my slot" but if she was a cop, she didn't cop my slot on the previous nights, if she was actually suspect and had that power she would have actually used it then and not now.
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Ouch! Get better!
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Sounds good to me.In post 3771, RadiantCowbells wrote:I'll track Fro99er, you jailkeep Sheep. sounds good?I have officially retired this account. My new account is Virtuoso.-
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I was confused as to what the motion detector did. I mixed up motion detector with voyer. His claimed results didn't match from what I thought his role did. I had the right conclusion but the wrong premise.This sort of feels to me like it comes from a TB who knows that LUV is bullshitting about the claim.
TB, why were you so dead set that the motion detector was scum all of a sudden? The whole situation feels really weird.I have officially retired this account. My new account is Virtuoso.-
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^Which is honestly making me paranoid about RC.In post 3887, Fro99er wrote:The funny part is RC thinking this game might not be overI have officially retired this account. My new account is Virtuoso.-
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Honestly RC's push to get MBG to name a target does come across as her knowing that sheep is actually town here. Why else would she make MBG claim a target?In post 3893, Fro99er wrote:
RIGHTIn post 3890, ThinkBig wrote:
^Which is honestly making me paranoid about RC.In post 3887, Fro99er wrote:The funny part is RC thinking this game might not be over
From RC's POV this should be over.
Otherwise MBG should be in RC's lynch pool
Crazy crack pot theory: Once Rauth flipped vanilla town instead of back up cop, RC was no longer a confirmed townie. She therefore hard bused Gin for town cred on day 4. Notice how she wanted to push MBG to a lynch, and then did a complete 180 the next day.
Also, I highlyhighlydoubt that RC is actually a tracker.
That's why I'm worried about RC. I need to do some re-reading. Though Occam's razor suggests that it is most likely sheep.I have officially retired this account. My new account is Virtuoso.-
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