Mini 1875: Pine's Death Trap Post Game - Town win!
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You mean this Akarin?In post 23, Akarin wrote:/confirm-
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Yup.In post 157, Grendel wrote:
You're very self aware here. Sort of like, "This is what I'm supposed to be doing, right guys?"In post 114, Rautherdir wrote:I have no idea what is happening but I guess it's RVS so I'll just vote someone.
VOTE: Akarin
You should relax.
Is this your first game here since that newbie I played with you?-
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It's only two people, and I don't see any substance to their votes on me.
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You'll be waiting until after RVS to see me do anything other than vote the last person in the activity overview. Which, by the way, is what I'm doing right now.In post 174, Keyser Söze wrote:Not convinced by Rauth so far. I want to see him upset an active player. Feels like he's trying to play a safe game. Once I see his teeth I may get a better look inside his soul.-
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Yep. I wish more people were talking because I think gerryoat/RC is SvT or TvS. Right now I lean towards RC being town and gerryoat being scum, but I'll read over the game again just to be sure before voting.Keyser Söze wrote:At least Rauth has more meat to chew on now...
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Could you tell me why that post is scummy?In post 390, JarJarDrinks wrote:
Scummy postIn post 114, Rautherdir wrote:I have no idea what is happening but I guess it's RVS so I'll just vote someone.
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Let me just put it this way: This is my second game. The only game I have played so far besides this game was a Newbie which Grendel was in.In post 398, Vifam wrote:I didn't like that post either mostly because you felt the need to tell us you were gonna vote someone in RVS, which feels like a newbscum or newbtown thing, I haven't really figured it out yet-
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That's the reason I'm reading over the game again. I don't know how to handle a claim like that, I'm trying to figure out if I should trust RC's claim or not.In post 412, Cooperative Sheep wrote:In post 389, Rautherdir wrote:Yep. I wish more people were talking because I think gerryoat/RC is SvT or TvS. Right now I lean towards RC being town and gerryoat being scum, but I'll read over the game again just to be sure before voting.
How come neither of you (or at least Vifam) is affected by the cop claim as far as assessing a TvS theory setup?In post 402, Vifam wrote:RC vs Gerry is such a shitfest they're probably not both scum on the same team, couldn't tell you which one is more likely to flip scum tho tbh
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CoopSheep, looking over the game again, I'm going to say you're right about not lynching RC today. I do think we shouldn't lynch Gerry quite yet though. While reading through the game some posts caught my eye.
390 again, why didn't you vote me if you thought it was scummy? JarJar, could you also explain your vote on RC? Do you think he's more likely to be scum as of me?
414 Seriously? Transcend, remind me again why you are voting me.-
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I already have experience with having a wagon from my previous game.In post 483, Vifam wrote:
I can't really argue with your experience but newbtown usually give off a confused "why me" vibe when they're getting voted, while scum tend to throw accusations in attempt to dissuade people from their lynchIn post 475, RadiantCowbells wrote:Yes there are exceptional newbies who react well to being wagoned and try to sort people on it well and get townread off of it as town but they are certainly the exception rather than the rule.-
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Please respond. I would actually like to know why you are voting me.
VOTE: Transcend
As to why I never commented on Grendel's wagon, I didn't have enough information to make a read on Grendel.
And as to Gerry... I'm just going to ignore him for a while. I'll probably support a wagon on him later on though, when I don't have anyone else to bother. I'm trying to avoid the tunneling problem I had last game.-
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... Have I ever townread you? You and Transcend are my strongest scumreads so far. I happen to be pestering Transcend right now, and after that I'll be poking around for other scumreads. If neither of those plans pan out into a lynch I'll be getting on your wagon.In post 558, gerryoat wrote:
what??? lol. explain thisIn post 552, Rautherdir wrote:I'm just going to ignore him for a while. I'll probably support a wagon on him later on though, when I don't have anyone else to bother.
And before anyone else brings it up, I should have said I was ignoring Gerry talking about me, not ignoring him completely.-
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I think I've already been over this... Oh. Hmm, I should clarify something.In post 567, gerryoat wrote:
ok the last line is better. but the way you explained it made no sense. why do you think i'm mafia?
I think either you or RC is scum. I have said that before. I'd rather lynch you before RC because of RC's claim.
Now please note: I haven't had a good chance to look at everyone else yet. Some people haven't been able to post much, and others haven't posted anything that really makes me want to look at them closer. As we get further into this day and I have more time that will change, and so will my reads. Once I can get a read on most everyone I'll be pushing a lynch in earnest.
If you're town Gerry you shouldn't be worried because I should be able to figure out by then if you don't fit on the scumteam.-
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1: Transcend if he doesn't replyIn post 581, Keyser Söze wrote:People keep saying gerryoat is scum but then they vote someone else...
Is it because:
1) you have a stronger scum read?
2) you think it is an inevitable lynch so you're going to jump on later?
3) are you waiting for your town reads to vote for him?
4) do you want to gain more information on other players then would gladly hammer?
gerryoat is one of the most active players so you should vote for him and ascertain if he really is scum NOW. People are labeling him scum but leaving it at that. Many agree with RC's reasoning that gerryoat's reaction to his PR-claim is categorically scum-indicative.
2: For me it's the 'we have 48 hours left in the day' lynch
3: I need to get town reads first
4: Definitely
Sorry for not explaining earlier, I'm holding off on posting some information until I get a full reads list up. I've already figured out Grendel.In post 587, Cooperative Sheep wrote:
So you went back, read over the game, decided Gerry was probably scum, and also (my presumption) decided you didn't know enough about other players so wanted to pressure them (which makes sense to me, and I like your Transcend pressure) but you're also choosing to avoid figuring out the Grendel thing. That seems a little random, why are you trying to sort everything except Grendel?In post 552, Rautherdir wrote:As to why I never commented on Grendel's wagon, I didn't have enough information to make a read on Grendel.
And as to Gerry... I'm just going to ignore him for a while. I'll probably support a wagon on him later on though, when I don't have anyone else to bother. I'm trying to avoid the tunneling problem I had last game.
(missed this when compiling my quotes - sorry for triple post awesome wall)
I don't know? You can look at my only other game if you want here. As for why I think RC leans town, it's RC's claim and Gerry's reaction to it.In post 600, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
Are you usually this cautious? What's making you lean RC for town? I have a feeling I know why but I want to hear what you have to say first.In post 389, Rautherdir wrote:
Yep. I wish more people were talking because I think gerryoat/RC is SvT or TvS. Right now I lean towards RC being town and gerryoat being scum, but I'll read over the game again just to be sure before voting.Keyser Söze wrote:At least Rauth has more meat to chew on now...
UNVOTE: Akarin, she'll get prodded soon anyways...
Pre-edit: Iwillengage. That said, there are good reasons for some town-aligned players to be cautious in their posting.-
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Other people were talking about it and I didn't want to post just to agree with them and add nothing.In post 610, Keyser Söze wrote:
I didn't see you challenge "Gerry's reaction" until now. But that is the popular theme as to why gerryoats is scum.In post 609, Rautherdir wrote:As for why I think RC leans town, it's RC's claim and Gerry's reaction to it.
What part of RC's 'reaction' did you scum-read in your early T-S / S-T theory?
It wasn't that I scum-read RC as much as I could see high motivation for scum to do what he did. Had Gerry's reaction been different I would have leaned towards RC being scum.-
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It's 'why you were voting me' now but I would still like to know.In post 552, Rautherdir wrote:Please respond. I would actually like to know why you are voting me.
VOTE: Transcend-
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... I was hoping for more, but you did respond, so I'll UNVOTE: you now.In post 627, Transcend wrote:
Bc ur scummyIn post 625, Rautherdir wrote:
It's 'why you were voting me' now but I would still like to know.In post 552, Rautherdir wrote:Please respond. I would actually like to know why you are voting me.
VOTE: Transcend
I'd like Akarin to post a bit more before I put my reads list up.-
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Posting to say a few things:
I can't access a computer right now.
Gerry's reaction to RC's claim now makes sense.
I also now believe RC is town.
Transcend, Vifam, you didn't even let Akarin post. I mean seriously, you could have at least waited a day or so at L-1 to get a claim from Gerry.
I'm narrowing down my lynch pool to Transcend and Vifam today, barring an extremely good argument for lynching RC.-
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In post 835, Akarin wrote:The RC vs Gerry thing. Wasn't he?
Later I think I said I was sure it was TvS/SvT. I failed to take into account that Gerry could be a power-role.Vifam wrote:Yeah
How is him not being sure if it was TvT or TvS scummy?
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... You know, I'm getting the feeling that you're chainsawing. What does everyone else think about Transcend and Vifam both being scum?
VOTE: Transcend-
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I'm pretty sure I made it clear that I scumread Gerry and that I was waiting for Akarin to get caught up. As for why I ignored Matt's wagon... I'm focused elsewhere currently.In post 917, RadiantCowbells wrote:
It's not scummy to think that there may be scum in our 1v1. What is scummy is sitting there being yeah there's definitely a scum in there but I don't really have any coherent thoughts about who it is but hey look at that juicy 1v1 there's bound to be some scum in there let's lynch them.In post 913, Vifam wrote:It doesn't really make sense because how is Rauth thinking Gerry vs RC is SvT at that point in the game scummy? A few other players did and she doesn't get on anyone else for it.
AFAIR no one else was that vague. A ton of people said 'Hey I think that's TvS and that Gerry is scum here', a few people said it's TvT, but Rautherdir was the only one who was totally blase and just like YEAH THERE'S SCUM IN THAT JUICY 1v1 RIPE FOR THE MISLYNCH PICKINGS.
And Grendel, last game I ended up basically being confirmed town day 2. I was also making a complex move to try and catch scum off guard which required me to keep active.-
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Reads!
Transcend is scum.
Vifam is null/scum.
LUV is null/slight scum.
Akarin is null.
Keyser is null.
Matt is null.
I(Rautherdir) am not reading myself.
JJD is null.
Grendel is null/slight town.
CoopSheep is null/town.
RC is town PR.
Night Kill Analysis
I don't know about everyone else, but I personally thought Alisae was scum when Night 1 started. The only conclusion I can draw is that scum were trying to find and kill other town PRs.
Matt's wagon. I never really understood how it happened, but after a lookover I came to the conclusion that its possible that he is scum, but I don't see it as likely.-
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I was talking about my previous game.In post 1009, Akarin wrote:
So you were trying an advanced strategy to catch scum off guard by not helping town too much and looking scummy?In post 967, Rautherdir wrote:And Grendel, last game I ended up basically being confirmed town day 2. I was also making a complex move to try and catch scum off guard which required me to keep active.-
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That was not what got me townread. I soft-claimed a PR day 1 that game due to pressure, then claimed 1shot BP first thing day 2 after we mislynched our Jailkeeper. Since it was my first game, everyone else considered me essentially confirmed town.In post 1016, Akarin wrote:So if being more active got you universally townread, why didn't you want to do that here?-
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And I redirect you here:In post 1023, Grendel wrote:
Idk, you don't have to be expressly active to be open with your reads, and thought processes.In post 967, Rautherdir wrote:
And Grendel, last game I ended up basically being confirmed town day 2. I was also making a complex move to try and catch scum off guard which required me to keep active.
reads like these for example:
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You were releasing reads on every slot on the roster in the last game throughout D1.
I'm pretty sure that this is the first time you've done it this game. As short as yesterday was... you didn't seem that into sorting the rest of the roster.
I was about to get started. And then Transcend and Vifam hammered. I wanted to put down a complete reads list, but I also didn't want to put Akarin down in my list without any content to base a read off of to help avoid what happened day 1 in our last game.In post 652, Rautherdir wrote:
... I was hoping for more, but you did respond, so I'll UNVOTE: you now.In post 627, Transcend wrote: Bc ur scummy
I'd like Akarin to post a bit more before I put my reads list up.-
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I have no content from him worthy of granting a town read.
No one else was. Also, RVS.In post 1038, Keyser Söze wrote:Rautherdir re-read
In post 114, Rautherdir wrote:I have no idea what is happening but I guess it's RVS so I'll just vote someone.
VOTE: Akarin. I don't agree with voting a non-active player. Why not vote an active player and engage? This is probably me disagreeing with Rautherdir's playstyle than anything.
'Ah, look at me, I have no idea what I'm doing, but I'll narrate it to make sure you know I'm here'
If I ever play my newb card in a future game, it'll be in scumchat. After this game I think I'll be confident in my town-play.In post 1038, Keyser Söze wrote:
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I don't know how Rautherdir ruled out a TvT scenario. Why did their interaction have to have scum in it? I disagreed with Rauth's "RC being town and gerryoat being scum" early conclusion. I suspected on day 1: was Rauth crowbarring in a scum-read so that they could later vote gerry? [Note: but Rauth did not later vote gerry, and wasn't part of his quickhammer].In post 389, Rautherdir wrote:I think gerryoat/RC is SvT or TvS. Right now I lean towards RC being town and gerryoat being scum, but I'll read over the game again just to be sure before voting.
Rauth asks JarJar why he thought his "I have no idea what is happening" post was scummy. Vifam didn't like it either. Rauth replies:"Let me just put it this way: This is my second game.". Ok, Rauth is playing the newb-card. I don't like this.
I'll respond laterIn post 1038, Keyser Söze wrote:-snip-
I hated this hedging. Rauth had earlier said "we shouldn't lynch Gerry quite yet" based on posts he had read (not yet highlighted) - why support a wagon on him now? If you have scum-feelings for a player you talk to them directly, not "ignore" them and see how their wagon unfolds. Tbh, it's weird you would admit to this though.In post 552, Rautherdir wrote:And as to Gerry... I'm just going to ignore him for a while. I'll probably support a wagon on him later on though, when I don't have anyone else to bother.
Later, the answer I have addresses several questions.In post 1038, Keyser Söze wrote:
Rauth talking to gerry:
"strongest scumreads" - ok, Transcend's naked vote, I can see how that could annoy you (OMGUS-fueled).In post 564, Rautherdir wrote:Have I ever townread you? You and Transcend are my strongest scumreads so far. I happen to be pestering Transcend right now, and after that I'll be poking around for other scumreads. If neither of those plans pan out into a lynch I'll be getting on your wagon.
I still can't see why you had gerry as one of your "strongest scumreads" who you weren't going to engage directly.
Why vote Transcend who was playing his own closed-game, and not gerry, who was one of the most active/open players from Day 1?
I don't understand the reasoning here. Neither did I understand the nature of this 'strongest scumread'.
I was going to as soon as I had a reads list. Also, see below.In post 1038, Keyser Söze wrote:In post 571, Rautherdir wrote:
I think I've already been over this... Oh. Hmm, I should clarify something.In post 567, gerryoat wrote:
ok the last line is better. but the way you explained it made no sense. why do you think i'm mafia?"I think I've already been over this"... NO YOU HAVEN'T. You were refusing to disclose the in's and out's of your scum-read. Why?
I believe it to be fact.In post 1038, Keyser Söze wrote:In post 571, Rautherdir wrote:I think either you or RC is scum. I have said that before. I'd rather lynch you before RC because of RC's claim.I was not satisfied with this reason.I still could not understand how gerry was your strongest scum-read.
This is the first time Rauth mentions not liking Gerry's "reaction" to RC's claim. So many people were sheeping that idea around - it felt like Rauth had adopted it too.In post 609, Rautherdir wrote:As for why I think RC leans town, it's RC's claim and Gerry's reaction to it.
Day 1 conclusion:
- I felt your Transcend scum-read felt real/plausible (OMGUS/frustration)
- I DO NOT understand how you got your strongest scum-read of gerry. My suspicion is that you were sheeping a popular view. If you believed it with your own reasons, you would have pressed gerry harder.
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Is that a fact or your belief?In post 990, Rautherdir wrote:RC is town PR.
Okay, here are some of Gerry's posts immediately after the roleclaim:In post 1038, Keyser Söze wrote:
"I think gerryoat/RC is SvT or TvS"
"I think I said I was sure it was TvS/SvT."
"I failed to take into account that Gerry could be a power-role."
Again, why did you NOT like gerry's reaction to RC's roleclaim on D1?In post 269, gerryoat wrote:Uh ok lmao. Just because you claim cop doesn't mean I'm mafia.In post 277, gerryoat wrote:I don't give a fuck what your role is. Doesn't make your read any better
When I first read these, I ruled out vanilla town because they would care a lot more about the roleclaim. This left Gerry being scum in my mind. In addition, mafia would also care about the early roleclaim; and I thought the fact that he commented on the roleclaim afterwards may have been because a scumbuddy told him to push RC on that in scumchat. Even so, I didn't commit to my vote because it felt like I was missing something, that it still didn't make sense.In post 291, gerryoat wrote:Claiming PR with one vote on you is the dumbest thing I may have seen on this site.
the fact that gerry could be a PR that could (with the assumption that RC was claiming cop) counterclaim.I failed to take something in consideration:
The response makes sense in that light. It wasn't until later that RC claimed 'not cop, but with cop in title'. Gerry in these posts was probably signalling to town that he didn't believe RC's claim.
I made a mistake and didn't catch it until after Gerry got hammered. I did not expect day 1 to end so quickly, and planned to do much more analysis and pushing that day.-
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UNVOTE:
Can someone please explain what this means?In post 1117, Transcend wrote: rauth's tone feels kinda forced
1. I realize this and am looking to fix it.Keyser Söze wrote:@Rauth - your readslist has a strong core of null reads.
Do you think your 10 posts today are helping you sort these players?
Or are you happy with your scum reads of Transcend, Vifam and LUV?
2. Nope. I need to post more. My problem, my responsibility to fix.
3. Not anymore. Transcend may or may not be scum. Once he posts some actual content I can sort him out.
I thought he was scum, though honestly if I am ever in another game with someone posting information without content it would only be a policy vote. At this point I will give him another day to improve his posting habits.In post 1083, Akarin wrote:So for people voting for Transcend, how many of you are policy voting, and how many of you think he's scum?
Updated reads:
Transcend is null.
Vifam is null/scum.
LUV is null/slight scum.
Akarin is null/slight town.
Keyser is null/town.
Matt is null/slight scum.
I(Rautherdir) am not reading myself.
JJD is null/slight town.
Grendel is null/slight town.
CoopSheep is null/town.
RC is town PR.
I'm going to look at my scum reads and get a case up later.
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Yes you have claimed already, but I understand if you weren't able to read through yet. Also, you are at L-5 right now.In post 1153, nancy wrote:Hi everyone! Some great players in this game (unfortunately replacing one of them!), looking forward to suffering Pine's masochisms with you all. I notice that I have a rather girthy and tumescent wagon on me, have I claimed yet? If not, I'm a VT.
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Alright, I've tried to be subtle about it so I could last another night, but I guess you won't be happy until I claim:In post 1265, Keyser Söze wrote:Rauth, is RC town?
Do not post absolutes in a readslist unless you can explain why.
Is it an opinion or fact?
Whether RC is the bulletproof townie is a game-breaker here.
Backup Cop. I investigated RC last night, and he is town. I'm just assuming from his claims that he is a power role.
And Grendel, I was trying to act somewhat scummy so that I wouldn't get NK'd. With that no longer a valid strategy I'll be reverting to my habits in our last game.-
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To get a reaction. I wanted to see who would lead a wagon on RC, so I decided at that point to make it seem like I could be convinced that RC was scum. As for narrowing down the pool, I learned last game it can be anti-town and I didn't want to appear town...In post 1274, Grendel wrote:@Ruath
Why did you say this?In post 766, Rautherdir wrote:
I'm narrowing down my lynch pool to Transcend and Vifam today, barring an extremely good argument for lynching RC.
I was made a bit more cautious because I didn't expect the cop to get lynched day 1. My role was suddenly active long before I thought it would be.Grendel wrote:UNVOTE:
I wish ppl wouldn't act intentionally scummy when they roll a pr. Its frustrating to think you've cuaght scum only to find out they were a pr scumming it up. :/
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Alright, I'm up for a JJD lynch, but first I would like to know who I should investigate assuming I don't get NK'd.
Also, JarJar... you have managed to get two of town's PRs to claim day 2, and were on our cop's wagon.
Intent to vote JJD. Don't know if you're at L-1 yet or not, haven't checked but you're close.-
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In post 1493, Rautherdir wrote:@JJD & Akarin: Alright, I'll hold my vote until the two of you have had time to talk.
@Everyone else: If anyone besides me or RC hammers, you will be policy lynched.-
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Still waiting on Akarin.
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Good point. I actually share that opinion. We can still wait a few hours for Akarin.In post 1662, Fro99er wrote:Because I'm tired of games dragging out when I've found obvscum-
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If Matt is scum I would think his partners are Sheep and either Akarin or Nancy.In post 1668, Fro99er wrote:
Matt is also confscumIn post 1283, mattblackguy wrote:If Rauth is telling the truth then it narrows the game down a lot, and that means:
RC Town
Rauth Town
Grendel Town
Nancy Town
Akarin Town
Meaning the 3 scum are in:
LUV
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Keyser
JarJar
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There's only one scum in [Keyser,Jar,Sheep], and I don't think it's Keyser, but I'm not confident enough to give a full Town read so I'm keeping him here just in case.
I'm fine with either LUV or Vifam lynches today since they're both scum.
Actually, wait, lets do LUV first. Vifam if you're not scum then who are LUVs partners?
VOTE: LUV
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1483: I think it's one of the only posts where he talks about them specifically. He's left room to bus for both of them, while still town reading them.
One of the things I've been looking for is people who seem to be able to communicate outside of this thread, scum have daychat in this game.-
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... I thought we were lynching JJD today.
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Can you link to the post?In post 1686, JarJarDrinks wrote:He's nervous that I called out his bus.
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You do realize I could just investigate you, right?In post 1701, Fro99er wrote:
Then vote me.In post 1699, JarJarDrinks wrote:See how Nancy calls frog scum a bunch of times. But then is all "Well I guess if JJD flips town, I'll have to reassess". Completely transparent.
I'm town and the only way your thick head is going to believe my reads is when I flip town
Pre-edit: I'm waiting for Akarin. After she posts I'll decide who I'm voting today.-
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Godfather isn't allowed in normal games.In post 1704, JarJarDrinks wrote:
Rautherdir/RadiantCowbells - Obvtown based on claim. Rauth is basically confirmed cause there's no way that he stops RC from getting lynched if he's scum. If RC happened to roll GF then oh well, we probably lose. Scum/Scum is too conpiracy theory for me to entertain.In post 1698, Rautherdir wrote:JJD, can you update your reads list? I can't seem to find one from you since 1175.-
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...In post 1793, Fro99er wrote:Then after I VCA I will self vote and be gone. It's not going against my win con to self vote if it helps town in the end.
There's literally nothing I can do to change RC's mind, and nancy is just going to follow RC, so yeah.
Here's how it would go in a worst case scenario:
Day 3: 8 town, 2 scum
Day 3 lynch: Fro99er (town)
Night 3 kill: (town)
Day 4: 6 town, 2 scum
Day 4 lynch: (town)
Night 4 kill: (town)
Day 5: 4 town, 2 scum (MYLO)
Day 5 lynch: (town)
Night 5 kill: (town)
Game over. Scum win.
The point of this is to ask you a question: who should we lynch day 4 and 5?
And I have a question for everyone else, who do you think is Fro99er's partner if he flips red?
We don't have to rage about this. We were able to kill scum yesterday, we can calm down for a bit. At any rate, we need to let certain people post.-
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