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Alright FA. One time only. I am willing to offer you a truce until the end of the day. I won't try to lynch you if you don't try to lynch me. All bets off tomorrow. Take it or leave it.
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Because I am town andIn post 2132, Frozen Angel wrote:
a weak vanilla cop visited you and is now deadIn post 2130, RadiantCowbells wrote:Alright FA. One time only. I am willing to offer you a truce until the end of the day. I won't try to lynch you if you don't try to lynch me. All bets off tomorrow. Take it or leave it.
a weak vanilla cop who I protected from bullets
Give me a good reason for making an offer like that with you
1) If you are scum, I will make absolutely sure that you get powerlynched tomorrow for trying to get a 1v1 forced with me.
2) If you are town, we can work together and lynch other scum and perhaps get a roleblocker flip that will make both of our lives a lot easier.
But more simply because I am town and I don't know what happened around your role but I don't feel like dealing with it today.
You should know better than to lynch me this early in a game anyway, especially after my preferred wagons got blatantly derailed by idiots and/or scum.2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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Not that I would use it as a tell, but up to this point I have never offered someone any such sort of bargain as scum but done so several times as town, mostly to Titus.In post 2134, Anotora wrote:Only scum try to make bargains like that.2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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If you are actually town who got roleblocked then both of us being lynched means town goes to LyLo without any of its strong or obvtown players still alive.
If you are actually scum then I can deal with you later when I've seen some flips and have more information.
I do not want to force this 1v1 where both of us are bound to get lynched at this point in the game and neither should you.
FA. If you are what you claim to be we have a Protect the Cop setup where scum can't even land effects on the aforementioned weak cop.Me and grey by planning this, forced scum to take a no kill gambit cause a secondary kill would practically confirm RC as scum.
Eiether that happened or I was blocked which is highly improbable given the restrictions on town power roles and ascetic claim.
Reminder that contrary to its name Weak badly INCREASES the strength of the role, rather than decreasing it.
I would be shocked and appalled if there were not a roleblocker because I can't see how the setup can be balanced without one, especially if after one failed kill on the cop they didn't realize that the protection would be limited shots. They have a way around you two if you are town.
Other than the two of us. Holy fuck Anotora you are such an obvscumfuck."Other scum"? That's a slip if there's ever been one in this game.2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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Fuck off.In post 2146, Frozen Angel wrote:In half of your theories for resolving it tomorrow - you had me as town.
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It's actually quite simple FA.
I'm going to assume that you're town for the purposes of this exercise, because otherwise it's academic.
You got a Rolestopper, which is first and foremost a doctor, in the first game following my return to mafia.
The first thing I would expect you to do is think wow, I have a doctor and RC is the biggest bullet magnet on the entire site. Maybe I'll try to work with him and see if we can do something!
NO, that's not what you did. What you did was use your doc/rolestop shot on someone who had piss poor reads, derailed my lynches, and on top of that you put the game into a situation where under most circumstances the obvious scum play would be to nightkill me because OBVIOUSLY I haven't been shot night one enough games that it's a great idea to make it happen again.
On top of that, I had multiple wagons that I would be happy to see lynched but you worked WITH the idiotic day 1 weak cop claiming Grey to subvert my lynches and lynch someone that I thought was lynchbaity. Oh, and I ended up having to lie about my reads because otherwise I was just going to get lynched for nothing. Now after both of you clowns fucked up day 1 and put me into a situation where the best case scenario was me getting NKed, again, you UTTERLY fucked up your role claim and tried to set up a false dichotomy where if I didn't double check your claims about shots the probable situation was both of us getting lynched in consecution.
So now I fixed your claim and you are STILL TRYING TO PUSH A 1V1 with me.
If you wanted me to give a shit about working with you, don't play this game like you did.2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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Like my first fucking post in this game was about how I was sick and tired of spending entire games trying to defend myself and now I have spent this entire fucking game trying to defend myself.
If you want to fight me go ahead but be fucking sure that I will bring you down with me.2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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No one who knows anything about this game cares about your opinion on my play. Best to keep it to yourself.In post 2155, Alisae wrote:tbh RC sorta just comes off as flailing anti-town right now.2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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You haven't provided a single point of comparison, you're just linking a game and saying that I'm scum.In post 2169, Alisae wrote:Dear those who think that RC is not scum.
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=66954
Read their ISO.
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Erm. That wasn't anti-town at all. That is the correct play and I can cite examples of me doing the exact same thing as town, and did so in that game.In post 2181, Alisae wrote:RC my point is your anti-town play here is similar to your anti-town play in that game where N1 JK died and you immediately asked the BP to claim.
Just because town got uppity and didn't realize the merit to it doesn't mean that it's the wrong play.2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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You are also distilling the play of someone who won a scummy award for scum play to 'anti town'. If you could look in my games for 'anti town' play and automatically know my alignment, I would be a shitty scummy recipient.2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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There is literally a claimed inno on me and you are still trying to lynch me you obnoxious scumfuck.In post 2198, Anotora wrote:
QFT.In post 2190, Alisae wrote:RC Either way your play has been anti-town this whole game and you should honestly be policy lynched.
Wanting to not let Panther's slot replace in during the day.
Selfvoting yourself with a bunch of disgusting AtE.
Voting obv town.
A bunch of anti-town bullshit that should really not be let go.
I'm gonna call it RC, Pepcho, and one of the less active players.2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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Why are you assuming that a Roleblocker exists when you were oh-so-ready to lynch in me and FA? Why isn't FA just a scumfuck?In post 2205, Anotora wrote:The RB'er wasn't to combat you or -Grey-. It was to combat Garmr. It makes so much sense.2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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Yeah because when a bunch of ridiculous townies start massclaiming their power roles and it adds up to an absurd amount of power everyone's first thought is that scum has no PRs.In post 2208, Frozen Angel wrote:that makes me suspicioun of panther he was the first one who even mentioned a roleblock possibility in day 12019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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It's not OMGUS it's a defense of my sanity from the absolute absurd play that I've seen from town this game.In post 2219, Alisae wrote:LOL RC nice OMGUS2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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Like look at this obnoxious scumfuckery. Srceenplay was the original counter wagon.In post 2258, Anotora wrote:Pepcho defended Srceenplay TONS in the early game. It was what I disliked most about Pepcho.2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.-
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you raise a good pointIn post 2275, Garmr wrote:
UNVOTE: mlmooneyIn post 2023, mlmooney89 wrote:With those wagons I'm thinking I will back off srceenplay. He didn't vote for SAJ despite it being a town wagon, which Anotora did as well.
I will also clear Garmr.
Grey and SAJ turned out town so there goes my other scum radar.
That leaves FB (which I find town), RC, Alisae, Pep, and FA on the lynch wagon.
FA was on everyone except Pep
RC & Alisae was on everyone so I'm leaning town
Pep was on no one but the lynch
I know someone else made the prior wagons list so before I start accusing anyone I would like to look at the votes myself. Unfortunately this flip happened right before I'm going home for the night and I don't think I can get that kind of data on my phone, I will see if I cant get my laptop out.
If you are a cop you are the worst cop ever. It was pretty obvious I was town day 1 to nearly everyone what a waste of a investigation if you are one.
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HEY WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ONIn post 2287, Firebringer wrote:Hey guys just got home from long trip so haven't read anything except new flip.
Kind of thinking frozen is scum more.....
I'll read everything tomorrow I need to sleep.
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I would be utterly unsurprised if scum had a cop role to get towncred from the miller claim. That said, no we're not lynching them today.
Anotora? =]
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